Topic: PytagoraZ & komisariatku are alts - page 3. (Read 2679 times)

Alright my bad for failing to know about the older requirements. If I continued stalking people here and not quit for school I would’ve known, I already know most of the prominent members here and a lot of events but somehow I missed out on that. However though there’s so many accounts that it’s basically hella suspicious along with the clear proof provided by nutildah. Sorry man but it’s pretty clear you’re guilty for multiple things and not just the past of using a singular alt.

If you are in the 0.01% chance of innocence then you need some SERIOUS proof. Like provide whatever you can at this point. If he is really your friend, just facecam both of yourselves to a trusted member(Nutildah is trusted) WHILE both of you being logged on, checking IPS too live so you aren’t faking anything. Being real here, no amount of words you post here will save you or convince people to believe you. You need evidence, not just words. And unfortunately the only proof you can provide is all personal IRL information, but it’s still better than nothing and typing stuff that’s most likely untrue and near impossible to believe based on all the evidence found by the community

maftukh is not my account, but she is the one I taught about bounties, he was active for a while. I borrowed the account temporarily because it was never used again by the original owner. You could say it was my alt, but I forgot to log in to the account and only used it briefly

I just found out that razor is a cyberdg alt, he never told me that before. I also don't know if I ever sent eth to a Razor address, but I admit I sent to a cyberdg eth address. You can see that our posting patterns are very different because we are not the same person and I'm not lying about that

It seems that you not only have @tu_kang, you also have another Alt named: @Maftukh, you can see the telegram that you use in Bounty.

1. Maftukh

Proof:

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Post by: komisariatku

And what you see is another lie from your words between @cyberdg and @razor92, this clearly proves that both of them are Alt, I'm sure you know these two accounts.

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Here proves that your words do not match the evidence here.

I have admitted wrongdoing and ownership of my alt account. Maybe I don't deserve to be forgiven but all the connections I had in 2017/2018. That's when I didn't know anything and I was just a bounty hunter. Beautiful times to remember as well as bad times. I know there are no second chances here

I once taught another college friend to join the forum and even bought him a new laptop at the end of 2017, but when he registered, the merit system came and he failed to increase his account ranking.

I do have several very good IRL friends who I know for more than 30 years and who are members of this forum (they are those who suggested me to come here in the first place) but not even once it cross my mind to sit at their computer when I was at their place and write forum posts and vice versa.

Thing is, basically all those who were caught abusing forum rules via alt accounts claim that those are their friends or family members, and while that may sometime be the case, no one will believe them anymore as this excuse has been used so much.

It all depends on the country of residence and the standard of living. In fact, Indonesia was found to have a lot of farming accounts as well as a lot of selling accounts that were specifically developed for selling. Previously, account sales were overlooked, and they were not always condemned.
During the bounty, many accounts made good money in 2017, and I am sure that this type of income was well discussed with friends. Therefore, you shouldn’t be surprised that, yes, people came here in whole groups.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.23010770


But I am once again convinced that if JollyGood thinks something, it doesn’t seem to him, and he is often right.
Moreover, if Nutildah takes over the search, then cheaters have virtually no chance of getting out.

I've interacted with PytagoraZ several times and am now very disappointed in it. A truly loud appearance on stage, since he declared himself a lot, sometimes ends in scenes of shame.
Modesty is beautiful; PytagoraZ, accept it.

I met him about 4x. and we talked a lot about the forum and I reminded him not to get involved in the discussion on the reputation board.

He opened my laptop several times and opened the forum of course with my account. I have warned him not to comment using my account. he only said once that it was wrong to comment using my account, he didn't tell me anything else. He even wanted to buy my bitcoins from signature payments when he was still a member but I refused because of course it would be dangerous.

He worked in the village government and I contract workers In the sub-district government, at first I didn't know each other until he saw me opening a forum.

However, I'm sure this won't change anything because I already admitted my mistake in 2017/2018 and at that time I was just a bounty hunter who didn't know the forum rules at all.

After being active again last year I started reading the forum rules and now I understand them but I still can't hide my ownership of my alt account in the past because it was recorded on ninjastic.

Maybe I survived from the mass neg trust that occurred the previous year because at that time I was no longer active. I can only apologize for my mistakes in the past and I also lost a lot of money that I got from the bounty campaign due to participating in ico scam and because my eth account was hacked


The conditions in 2017/2018 and now are very different. Bounty campaigns are not as easy as before and are quite promising. I never even read the forum rules at that time because I mostly followed blog campaigns

If you want to search, maybe there were more mistakes I made in the past, maybe there were more than 5 times I participated in the same campaign. I actually wanted to admit my mistakes in the past but I didn't because it would be the same as killing my account sooner than now

The tu_kang account seems to have been hacked because I can't open the account anymore and the last post wasn't the one I posted but I can't do anything because it's just an alt account and reporting the alt account is the same as committing suicide so I chose to forget it and not try to access it again

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I don't know why it can be connected to 11 accounts but as far as I remember, I rented a house with Asrinur, cyberdg, and another one I forgot the name of the account. as far as I remember I only sent eth to these 3 accounts the rest I don't know unless they have alt accounts which I don't know about. Havi Agasa and Hagz are also people I know but we have different friendship circles

Asrinur decided to quit the forum and decided to sell his account, I know very well when he sold his account because we still communicate frequently. Now we are far apart and they already have their own small families

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I just looked at the accounts of several members who commented and it turns out they were registered in the year after 2018. In 2017/2018 there were a lot of cheaters, maybe I was one of them and most of us don't know what DT is and what are the forum rules. we only focus on doing bounty tasks. At that time it was really difficult, bro, maybe we cheated but we were also cheated by the ICO project. This is an annoying, complicated, and completely unfavorable condition

But since you are a famous member, perhaps you know the history of that era. It was a good and bad time.

Sigh.

You might be able to make a reasonable case if there was only two accounts involved but 11? All connected via blockchain transactions? Come on man. I'm finding it hard to believe that they're all friends, even if you don't know some of these accounts.

And why are they engaging with an account seller in the first place? You know that this is a frowned-upon activity.

and you've been trying to cheat the campaign from the start with your alt. and you invite the people you call friends to cheat like you did too?
you build a farm of accounts under the pretext of your friends.

I will show you how you have cheated with your alt.

when your account and alt join the Centra campaign in 2017.
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if you are trying to educate your friends about forums. then how do you explain the wrong behavior you committed by cheating on the campaign?
Would you advise your friends to create as many accounts as possible and join one campaign to get more benefits?

But what actually happened? You haven't explained the situation, and frankly, it's unbelievable. Friends with PytagoraZ in real life? Coworkers, classmates, spill it. He used your laptop in a cafe? Why on earth would you let him? Your laptop likely holds more than login credentials - personal stuff, financial data. That would mean that you trusted him to the point of giving him unrestricted access to your digital life? Why?  Then you lied to Shasan about even knowing the guy? Why? When? What big mistake? Details matter.

A believable story needs specifics. You're not giving any, and with your past history of lying when convenient, there's no reason to believe you now.

What do I need to explain? You can find out what the 2017/2018 bounty system is like, there are no merit requirements and everyone can take part in the campaign. In the beginning all projects look good and in the end they all turn out to be scams. Joining a campaign is not as difficult as it is now.

I've explained that I have 1 alt and I admit it. The rest are accounts belonging to my friends and I have tried to invite them to be active again but they failed to get merit and are busy with their own real work.

Now it's very difficult and I admit, especially for those who don't have a particular interest and knowledge so it's very difficult to get people to join. I even failed to encourage my younger brother who is still in college to be active because he never received merit and didn't like discussing things.

If these accounts are all your “friends” explain this.

I have been trying to get many people to join bitcointalk every once in a while for months because I told them it can make them money. Most of them didn’t even bother and only one joined just to hire indians for some illegal project. Absolutely no one cared to make campaign money or talk about the purpose of bitcoin or crypto advice none of that. Literally NO one cared

I used to care too about making money here but lost interest with trying anymore.

Noted. Meaning it's better to keep quiet in real life and not have to tell anyone about forum, bitcoin, campaign, or anything else in the forum. I will remember your words.

My wife doesn't have an account here. Only my college friends who used to share a rented house had it. I guarantee that the connection will only occur in 2017 and 2018.

I actually wanted to say that I have had alts in the past and wanted to apologize on the reputation board but I didn't because that would just be like suicide. Because not all DTs are like you, so please do what you want to do. I just want to continue the discussion and now I don't have to hide like before

No! I strictly separate online activities from IRL activities. That's why I'm not using my real name here.

If I would have a real world connection here, let's say my wife would join, I'd announce it to prevent any accusations in the future. I'm not sure yet if I'd Merit her: even if the posts are worth it, I don't like conflicts of interests.

I lied to shasan because I didn't want to contact pythagoras again.

I honestly admit that my alt account is tu_kang. I don't own anything else, the accounts mentioned above belong to my friends and some I don't know at all.

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The conditions in 2017 and now are very different. I have admitted that I participated in the same bounty in 2017/2018. Do you know how to flag spam ICO projects? that happens often and we also lose because we are cheated by the Ico project. I still remember the price of Centra fell overnight and many of my friends who followed the ICO lost their funds

But nevermind. nothing has changed. This will only increase your posting quota.

So... can we trust the words that comes from a cheater?




The campaign they joined [BOUNTY][ICO] TerraMiner - The First mining farm in which anyone can invest.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oWq7-pDlH5jN6EzkP3G693VhmJM55GH4u_ApPy--y6Q/edit#gid=49074262

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Edit:
There's a blog created by tu_kang, in his blog there are few articles using Bahasa, English and Korea. Do you really able to speak Korea or you're just using google translate?


https://medium.com/@tu_kang

BUT YOU JUST SAID THIS:



Remember??

So you were lying to shasan then, or you are lying to all of us now? Which one is it? Because you are definitely a liar one way or the other.

You will not weasel your way out of this one. Better get to work bettering your other alt accounts, the ones I don't know about anyway, because I am definitely tagging the ones I can connect, shortly.

@shasan
Isn't it the same user we talked about a loan asked by komisariatku from me? I see why you have warned me. Thank you a lot.

Both are immediately removed from my campaign now. @Pytagoraz, you won't receive any payment for this current week unless you can convince the community and remove the tag. You both have cheated a contest.

That's what happened. Because he made a big mistake, I decided not to communicate with him anymore and chose never to know him.

You can check it and maybe you will find many accounts connected but in reality I only have the alt tu_kang account, the other accounts are not mine. When I was in college I rented a house with 4 friends who all had accounts on this forum. asrinur, cyberdg, another one forgot the account name. asrinur has sold his account, and cyberdg is still owned by the original owner

Maybe I also participated in some of the same bounty campaigns in 2017, I forget. Since I started to understand the working rules of the forum, I decided to leave my alt account. I know what I explain will have no effect, and you don't need to bother checking it because I've already explained all the truth.

Sorry but this makes no fucking sense at all and I don't believe it for one second. You borrowed his laptop and started posting from his account? What kind of etiquette or relationship is that? Anything but a believable one.

This is definitely the nail in the coffin for your ridiculous story:


Finally, one last thing:


So this guy also accidentally logged into his friend's account too, right? Every time this kind of thing happens, its just a simple case of friends sharing machines and posting under each other's accounts on accidents, right?


I will take a closer look at the komisariatku alt connections next.