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March 17, 2024, 01:10:33 AM
#32
Don't any of you have IRL friends who join forums or teach neighbors or friends about forums?
No.  Not a single one, and that's why I find it incredibly hard to believe--especially since this particular forum has had a major problem with account farming, alt accounts abusing campaigns/bounties, and alt accounts contributing to the overall low quality of discussion here.  Let Occam's Razor slice your way through to the truth, no?

On the other hand, I have no idea what communities are like in other countries or if the younger generation (which I am assuming you are a part of) would be more likely to be into bitcoin and tell a friend about bitcointalk.  Still, even as I wrote that sentence the thought that popped into my head was why someone would tell somebody else about this forum--and it'd probably be "Hey, did you know you can get paid to write posts?". 

There's not enough reasonable doubt here IMO, but I'm not tagging any accounts either.

Yes, so the most correct ones are those who are silent and never actually promote anything in the real world.

In 2017 there were many collaborations in working on ICO campaigns. some have alt accounts, including me and I've admitted it here. Some of them are just bounty hunters, others start participating in ICOs, and there are also those who suck up ICOs to collect bitcoins. This is what actually happens and not all connected accounts are account farms. They are really a group and if someone has an alt then usually they only have no more than 2 accounts, that's what I know and I know there are 3 bounty hunter groups which now most of them have sold their accounts, maybe I'm the only one who is active

My mistake was meeting Pytagoraz where at that time I didn't want to teach anyone about bitcoin because it would be dangerous for my account
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March 16, 2024, 11:07:43 PM
#31
Don't any of you have IRL friends who join forums or teach neighbors or friends about forums?
No.  Not a single one, and that's why I find it incredibly hard to believe--especially since this particular forum has had a major problem with account farming, alt accounts abusing campaigns/bounties, and alt accounts contributing to the overall low quality of discussion here.  Let Occam's Razor slice your way through to the truth, no?

On the other hand, I have no idea what communities are like in other countries or if the younger generation (which I am assuming you are a part of) would be more likely to be into bitcoin and tell a friend about bitcointalk.  Still, even as I wrote that sentence the thought that popped into my head was why someone would tell somebody else about this forum--and it'd probably be "Hey, did you know you can get paid to write posts?". 

There's not enough reasonable doubt here IMO, but I'm not tagging any accounts either.
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March 16, 2024, 10:12:50 PM
#30
asrinur ~ My friend's account and he has sold the account
pentol86 ~ My friend's account and that account were hacked
cyberdg ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
havi agasa  ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
Hagz ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
What's wrong with your OPSEC if you discuss a forum related to your finances with that many friends IRL?

As far as I know, they rarely go online anymore because they can't compete for merit.

In 2017/2018 we often distributed small amounts of eth for transaction fees on ethereum. This is what causes the connection between accounts. But you can see our posting pattern is very different. I admit I have an alt, namely tu_kang, which I created in 2017 too.

So, there are 11 accounts connected via blockchain:
asrinur ~ My friend's account and he has sold the account
pentol86 ~ My friend's account and that account were hacked
cyberdg ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
razor92 ~ I do not know him
komisariatku ~ me
coklat gurih ~ I do not know him
havi agasa  ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
akbarharyadi8 ~ I do not know him
nyupangcoin ~ I do not know him
Hagz ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
tu_kang ~ my alt
Wow.  Just fucking wow.  It amazes me when there are a bunch of "friends" (presumably in real life?) who happen to also be members of a particular forum....and they all get connected as alt accounts.  This is as far as I've gotten in this thread, but you can be damn sure I'm going to read this until it gets locked.

I have noted that PytagoraZ has requested post history reviews from me in the past, but not any of the above accounts that I can remember--but I haven't checked.  This thread is really making me lean toward ditching my offer altogether and going back to giving out merits the old way, while reading random posts.
Shit like this is why I stopped helping users rank up via the count down to next rank thread. So many farms in there so I realized it's better to avoid the thread altogether and see how they do without the passive beg thread.

It's not account farming, I've admitted that I have an alt. I've seen you often for a long time and you definitely know how the bounty phenomenon forces someone to ask for a little eth for transaction fees.

Don't any of you have IRL friends who join forums or teach neighbors or friends about forums? It's strange that every connection is considered an account farm. except that no one really invites someone to join forums or teaches about bitcoin in the real world
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March 16, 2024, 05:47:55 PM
#29
Shit like this is why I stopped helping users rank up via the count down to next rank thread. So many farms in there so I realized it's better to avoid the thread altogether and see how they do without the passive beg thread.
There might be a few alt accounts that might be ranked up if you help but the majority of the people who will rank up aren't alt accounts. So to punish those alt accounts it should not be stopped for those who have a single account.

I think this took you almost 2 to 3 months to make proper finding haven gone through your explanation
He took a long time to avoid the loss of the lender (me) as there was an active loan to both accounts.
However, multiple account or alt account or merits abuse should only be given a neutral tag instead of negative tag.
You are correct but they cheated by joining on same contest.
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March 16, 2024, 04:17:22 PM
#28
I don't know why I am laughing so hard after looking back at what the drama and Reputation board loving newbie said back then  Grin
OMG.... Looks like a lot of people are starting to see me. That is dangerous. How can you do that? Please teach me

Wkwkwkw.... The reputation thread is currently interesting on the rby case. I was quite interested in it.. until I forgot what time it was

It sounded fun and sarcastic back then, but I guess not anymore, ain't that right PytagoraZ? Told you, the attention seeking would haunt you one day, here we are.
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March 16, 2024, 03:37:17 PM
#27
I think this took you almost 2 to 3 months to make proper finding haven gone through your explanation I noticed you are correct although I am not good at account finding unlike sis lovesmayfamilis, but from the evidence you provided shows clearly that both account is being operated by one single user. However, multiple account or alt account or merits abuse should only be given a neutral tag instead of negative tag. If could recall correctly from some post over here that speaks about neutral tags but for event cheating then tag is allowed to be given any one caught up.
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March 16, 2024, 03:10:59 PM
#26
komisariatku and I have very different posting patterns.
Even if you do have very different posting patters (which I don't think is the case), that woulnd't help you much, considering the all the evidence stacked against you and him. Hell, he denied in his conversation with shasan even knowing you.

I can certainly understand why you did what you did (the fact that you can make a solid living in Indonesia via signature campaigns), but at least man it up instead trying to make these kind of excuses that doesnt't paint you in favorable light.


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March 16, 2024, 12:10:32 PM
#25
This is my mistake. komisariatku and I come from the same city and we meet occasionally. I used his laptop when I met at the cafe and read many threads there, I didn't realize I was replying using komisariatku account.
Yeah, this happens to me all the time. I go to a cafe, get drunk, and give anyone I meet full access to my laptop to have fun on the internet on my account. It's a common mistake, can happen to anyone Cheesy

asrinur ~ My friend's account and he has sold the account
pentol86 ~ My friend's account and that account were hacked
cyberdg ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
havi agasa  ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
Hagz ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
What's wrong with your OPSEC if you discuss a forum related to your finances with that many friends IRL?
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March 16, 2024, 10:52:40 AM
#24
So, there are 11 accounts connected via blockchain:
asrinur ~ My friend's account and he has sold the account
pentol86 ~ My friend's account and that account were hacked
cyberdg ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
razor92 ~ I do not know him
komisariatku ~ me
coklat gurih ~ I do not know him
havi agasa  ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
akbarharyadi8 ~ I do not know him
nyupangcoin ~ I do not know him
Hagz ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
tu_kang ~ my alt
Wow.  Just fucking wow.  It amazes me when there are a bunch of "friends" (presumably in real life?) who happen to also be members of a particular forum....and they all get connected as alt accounts.  This is as far as I've gotten in this thread, but you can be damn sure I'm going to read this until it gets locked.

I have noted that PytagoraZ has requested post history reviews from me in the past, but not any of the above accounts that I can remember--but I haven't checked.  This thread is really making me lean toward ditching my offer altogether and going back to giving out merits the old way, while reading random posts.
Shit like this is why I stopped helping users rank up via the count down to next rank thread. So many farms in there so I realized it's better to avoid the thread altogether and see how they do without the passive beg thread.
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March 16, 2024, 10:24:04 AM
#23
So, there are 11 accounts connected via blockchain:
asrinur ~ My friend's account and he has sold the account
pentol86 ~ My friend's account and that account were hacked
cyberdg ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
razor92 ~ I do not know him
komisariatku ~ me
coklat gurih ~ I do not know him
havi agasa  ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
akbarharyadi8 ~ I do not know him
nyupangcoin ~ I do not know him
Hagz ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
tu_kang ~ my alt
Wow.  Just fucking wow.  It amazes me when there are a bunch of "friends" (presumably in real life?) who happen to also be members of a particular forum....and they all get connected as alt accounts.  This is as far as I've gotten in this thread, but you can be damn sure I'm going to read this until it gets locked.

I have noted that PytagoraZ has requested post history reviews from me in the past, but not any of the above accounts that I can remember--but I haven't checked.  This thread is really making me lean toward ditching my offer altogether and going back to giving out merits the old way, while reading random posts.
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March 16, 2024, 06:10:12 AM
#22
This is my mistake. komisariatku and I come from the same city and we meet occasionally. I used his laptop when I met at the cafe and read many threads there, I didn't realize I was replying using komisariatku account. He scolded me for this, if you want to give a tag, please give it to me and don't give it to komisariatku

That's what actually happened and I apologize to komisariatku for my mistake


I have read various stories in which members write various excuses when they are caught cheating with alt accounts, but this belongs to the very top of human stupidity if it is true. Two people meet in a public place, one of them connects to public wi-fi and logs into his BTT account and allows the other to write posts using the same account Roll Eyes

Regardless of whether there is any truth in it, everything else that comes to the surface now only pushes you deeper into the hole that you unfortunately dug yourself. What could possibly absolve you of the charges is the possibility of the admin viewing your IP address (in case you did not use VPN/Tor), but also if you were not intelligent enough and use the same IP address for both accounts, it would definitely be the last proof that would end this story.
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March 16, 2024, 05:54:36 AM
#21
This is my mistake. komisariatku and I come from the same city and we meet occasionally. I used his laptop when I met at the cafe and read many threads there, I didn't realize I was replying using komisariatku account. He scolded me for this, if you want to give a tag, please give it to me and don't give it to komisariatku
But it didn't happen only once (not that it would make your story more belieavable) as it happened (at least) two times now. And even if it did happen again, why didn't you deleted the whole post since your wrote with the wrong acount instead just editing it?

Anyway, you should have come with the better story or at least admit it instead coming with something as far fetched as this.

What do I have to admit? komisariatku and I have very different posting patterns. The only thing that connected me and him were those two posts, and when everything was still fine, I met him several times and he was one of my mentors so I sometimes used his laptop when I met.

That doesn't explain the lie about "never communicating with him in person."

Because I knew this would happen and it would be his fault. I'm not a good person who easily forgets his actions. So I chose not to deal with it.

So sorry bro and please reply my message
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March 16, 2024, 05:44:02 AM
#20
That doesn't explain the lie about "never communicating with him in person."

Because I knew this would happen and it would be his fault. I'm not a good person who easily forgets his actions. So I chose not to deal with it.
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March 16, 2024, 05:26:26 AM
#19
Well, I guess we always knew there was something fishy with the PytagoraZ account (he was distrusted by at least four DT members shortly after joining the community), and that he isn't who he claimed to be. This only confirms our suspicions. Nice find @nutildah!

@PytagoraZ, your explanation is certainly convenient, but not very convincing and is very difficult to prove. Especially considering you've repeated the same mistake at least twice.



I cut off contact with him and chose not to know him because of the mistakes he made.

That doesn't explain the lie about "never communicating with him in person."
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March 16, 2024, 05:10:15 AM
#18
This is my mistake. komisariatku and I come from the same city and we meet occasionally. I used his laptop when I met at the cafe and read many threads there, I didn't realize I was replying using komisariatku account. He scolded me for this, if you want to give a tag, please give it to me and don't give it to komisariatku

That's what actually happened and I apologize to komisariatku for my mistake
What an excellent lie you can tell. You were offline and you had no communication with me. Then I asked komisariatku whether s/he has communication with you or not but s/he has told me no personal contact.

Please be more smart man.

@nutildah one more thing you missed:
They took extensions repeatedly and stopped any repayment at the same time and both repaid almost the same time (less than 24 hours).

I already suspected that sooner or later this would happen. @pytagoraz, you told me that everything would be fine, it was your fault.

I have no defense in this matter. Please ask everything to Pytagoraz

I had an alt account in the past, but I haven't used it for a long time and even forgot the password for that account
You are supporting the same as PytagoraZ if so why you told like below image:


I cut off contact with him and chose not to know him because of the mistakes he made.
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March 16, 2024, 04:52:09 AM
#17
This is my mistake. komisariatku and I come from the same city and we meet occasionally. I used his laptop when I met at the cafe and read many threads there, I didn't realize I was replying using komisariatku account. He scolded me for this, if you want to give a tag, please give it to me and don't give it to komisariatku

That's what actually happened and I apologize to komisariatku for my mistake
What an excellent lie you can tell. You were offline and you had no communication with me. Then I asked komisariatku whether s/he has communication with you or not but s/he has told me no personal contact.

Please be more smart man.

@nutildah one more thing you missed:
They took extensions repeatedly and stopped any repayment at the same time and both repaid almost the same time (less than 24 hours).

I already suspected that sooner or later this would happen. @pytagoraz, you told me that everything would be fine, it was your fault.

I have no defense in this matter. Please ask everything to Pytagoraz

I had an alt account in the past, but I haven't used it for a long time and even forgot the password for that account
You are supporting the same as PytagoraZ if so why you told like below image:
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March 16, 2024, 04:41:06 AM
#16
asrinur ~ My friend's account and he has sold the account
pentol86 ~ My friend's account and that account were hacked
cyberdg ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
razor92 ~ I do not know him
komisariatku ~ me
coklat gurih ~ I do not know him
havi agasa  ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
akbarharyadi8 ~ I do not know him
nyupangcoin ~ I do not know him
Hagz ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
tu_kang ~ my alt
I don't know that account, so what should I say? In 2017 I had many friends on campus who joined the forum and we even rented a house together. If you don't believe me, please come to my place and I will meet you with the owner of the account above that I know.
Oh well...

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March 16, 2024, 03:57:42 AM
#15
This is my mistake. komisariatku and I come from the same city and we meet occasionally. I used his laptop when I met at the cafe and read many threads there, I didn't realize I was replying using komisariatku account. He scolded me for this, if you want to give a tag, please give it to me and don't give it to komisariatku
But it didn't happen only once (not that it would make your story more belieavable) as it happened (at least) two times now. And even if it did happen again, why didn't you deleted the whole post since your wrote with the wrong acount instead just editing it?

Anyway, you should have come with the better story or at least admit it instead coming with something as far fetched as this.
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March 16, 2024, 03:39:25 AM
#14
asrinur ~ My friend's account and he has sold the account
pentol86 ~ My friend's account and that account were hacked
cyberdg ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
razor92 ~ I do not know him
komisariatku ~ me
coklat gurih ~ I do not know him
havi agasa  ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
akbarharyadi8 ~ I do not know him
nyupangcoin ~ I do not know him
Hagz ~ My friend's account and the account are still held by the original owner
tu_kang ~ my alt
You've got some explaining to do, not just saying that you don't know their accounts or that they're your friend's accounts, the unknown ones I'm the most curious of because if you don't know them then how come they're connected to you? It's not like your address and the unknown addresses interacted without your knowledge after all. Regarding those friends, they're going to be hard to prove that they're really the accounts of your friends, it could be a case where you're letting others use your account to cheat the forum in some way.

I don't know that account, so what should I say? In 2017 I had many friends on campus who joined the forum and we even rented a house together. If you don't believe me, please come to my place and I will meet you with the owner of the account above that I know.
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March 16, 2024, 03:31:33 AM
#13
I see the theatre that PytagoraZ/komisariatku is trying to put on as ridiculous, as if they were two different people. In the end, as so often happens, the first thing we see is only the tip of the iceberg and it would not be surprising if the data that jokers10 has revealed ends up proving more.

What exactly do you want to convey? has no value at all, like your useless thread that you finally locked and you're angry because I don't agree with your thread. lol
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