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Topic: Q: Should Lauda *really* be a moderator of bitcointalk A: no - page 19. (Read 43401 times)

Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
YO ! go jack off with all this shit.. people who have already trade with me knows who i am ... i never have a trade with you and i have soooo many better thing to do than fighting with trolls in this poor thread..  play with that ... i have better things to do Wink

poor guy...  Grin

Good.  Then I expect not to read my name anymore in your masturbatory fantasies.  Thanks.  Smiley
legendary
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Terminated.
@Lauda- are the screenshots of those messages an accurate representation of what you said to defcon23 at one point? If not then what is inaccurate?
They are (they're easily faked, although I didn't go through each individual message), but I consider them random gibberish. I tend to have 'fun' with people in that chat-room (compare that to the direct messages). The representation of the story is inaccurate, and I disagree with posting screenshot of private conversations without permission. All of this is off-topic to this thread.

If the screenshots are real then it looks like Lauda wanted to buy some item or another and was feeling impatient, then it looks like he refused to get involved in a personal dispute between Vod and defcon.  what's the accusation here?
Correct, I refused to get involved into that dispute. From what I understand the accusation is somewhere in the lines of: I'm abusing my position (I assume moderator?) by leaving false feedback or something which is ridiculous as those aren't interconnected (regardless of the feedback being correct or not).

the rest is more interesting: i have bought a coin , which he want: i have refused to trade it at his conditions ( 25$) so, he first menace to left a bad feedback,
I sorta thought that part was a joke.
Why would it be? Although "my conditions" was just a suggestion based on the amount of money required by others. The first screenshot shows that, although cuts off at "let me know who gets it, so I can leave negative rating" to make it seem like I was serious. If that were true, why am I not seeing the negative rating from myself on the "person who got it"? Roll Eyes

Well, if it is the case that he at first refused to intervene, and the dispute was over 1 year old, then he later intervened with a negative directly after you refused to trade with him, that seems like poor judgment.  
This has nothing to do with the personal dispute which happened some time ago. This person (currently ignored) is acting like a special snowflake. I've left several ratings recently as I've caught up on that (still a long list to go). The reasoning: "We had a dispute X time ago, and you aren't allowed to leave a negative rating ever" is bullshit. Don't get me started on unjustified retaliatory feedback, which should make one less trustworthy by default.

I have read your feedback against me.  You called me a scammer when I have never scammed anyone, and you called QS innocent when it was proven he scammed by self escrow.  That alone makes you untrustworthy.
That's what my rating reflects. Untrustworthy regardless of initial accusations due to retaliatory unjustified negative feedback.
legendary
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YO ! go jackoff with all this shit.. people who have already have trade with me knows well who i am ... i never have a trade with you ( and never will do  it..) and i have soooo many better thing to do than fighting with trolls in this poor thread..  play with that ... i have better things to do Wink

poor guy...  Grin
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
VOD , an user who left me a neg ranking in the past for absolutely no valid reason

I don't leave negative feedback for absolutely no valid reason.  Try again.


proof ? lol go home pupyy .... read better my ranking ... once again i have tons of trade for so many bitcoins... why would i risk destoying my own rep for wining .... let' s say around 1$ or 1.5$ in an fucking account sale ( acting as escrow)  F... off.

I have read your feedback against me.  You called me a scammer when I have never scammed anyone, and you called QS innocent when it was proven he scammed by self escrow.  That alone makes you untrustworthy.

I and my ratings are not going anywhere you scammer.   Smiley
legendary
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VOD , an user who left me a neg ranking in the past for absolutely no valid reason

I don't leave negative feedback for absolutely no valid reason.  Try again.


proof ? lol go home pupyy .... read better my ranking ... once again i have tons of trade for so many bitcoins... why would i risk destoying my own rep for wining .... let' s say around 1$ or 1.5$ in an fucking account sale ( acting as escrow)  F... off.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
VOD , an user who left me a neg ranking in the past for absolutely no valid reason

I don't leave negative feedback for absolutely no valid reason.  Try again.
legendary
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I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
and yes.... that's not cool ....but just  not more than what Lauda have done in this case...

And what was that exactly?  He was impatient about buying something from you?  He refused to get involved in some dispute between you and Vod?  I don't understand.

dispute between me and vod was one year ago... recently i have ask to Lauda if he could hep to solve it , waht he refused.
untli that no problem.

That seems well within his prerogative and not shady at all.  I wouldn't want to get involved in disputes that don't involve me.

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the rest is more interesting: i have bought a coin , which he want: i have refused to trade it at his conditions ( 25$) so, he first menace to left a bad feedback,
I sorta thought that part was a joke.

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then he left me a bad ranking , using this old story between me and vod .. ( power abuse , extortion , blackmail... call it as you want..,  in anyway : BAD

Well, if it is the case that he at first refused to intervene, and the dispute was over 1 year old, then he later intervened with a negative directly after you refused to trade with him, that seems like poor judgment.  I don't know what Lauda will say, but in the end, trust isn't moderated and we've long had known scammers on default trust.  I assume this is your issue, that Lauda is somewhere in the default trust network and that his feedback is damaging your rep.
legendary
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and yes.... that's not cool ....but just  not more than what Lauda have done in this case...

And what was that exactly?  He was impatient about buying something from you?  He refused to get involved in some dispute between you and Vod?  I don't understand.

dispute between me and vod was one year ago... recently i have ask to Lauda if he could hep to solve it , waht he refused.
untli that no problem.

the rest is more interesting: i have bought a coin , which he want: i have refused to trade it at his conditions ( 25$) so, he first menace to left a bad feedback, then he left me a bad ranking , using this old story between me and vod .. ( power abuse , extortion , blackmail... call it as you want..,  in anyway : BAD
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1081
I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
and yes.... that's not cool ....but just  not more than what Lauda have done in this case...

And what was that exactly?  He was impatient about buying something from you?  He refused to get involved in some dispute between you and Vod?  I don't understand.
legendary
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Merit: 1002
and here's the contains of  PM with Lauda:

https://i.imgur.com/luOXJ8l.png


and here, the proof he well know the problem about VOD feedback before his recent bad feedback ..
as we  have talking about before the genesis #1 "issue"...
so he have used this to trying discredit me ...

https://i.imgur.com/QWrA64c.png

Posting private chat logs is not cool. There are other ways to deal with issues.

I don't see any indication that the messages posted were GPG encrypted so I don't see any reason why anyone would expect those messages to stay private. There should not be any expectation that a Personal message/direct message be kept private if they are not encrypted, especially if there is no explicit request to maintain confidentiality (a privnote sent in plaintext might be an exception to this, however it is still possible that someone will intercept this).  

@Lauda- are the screenshots of those messages an accurate representation of what you said to defcon23 at one point? If not then what is inaccurate?


I don't think that cryptodevil is an alt of neotux, and making this claim will only be a distraction.

I like how quickseller thinks that people PGP encrypt PMs on IRC Roll Eyes

If you're having a private discussion with someone and you then later publish that discussion then it's certainly an aggressive act.  It's also not clear that these screenshots aren't simply faked.  Anyone can use any username on IRC and it's really not hard to do a little image editing anyway.  In any case, it's not clear to me what defcon is accusing him of.  If the screenshots are real then it looks like Lauda wanted to buy some item or another and was feeling impatient, then it looks like he refused to get involved in a personal dispute between Vod and defcon.  what's the accusation here?


yeah sure.... but as you can see in this logs ( at least the publics ones)... many other users have seen the same shit..... that's how this is easely verifiable.. Wink

and yes.... that's not cool ....but just  not more than what Lauda have done in this case...
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1081
I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
and here's the contains of  PM with Lauda:

https://i.imgur.com/luOXJ8l.png


and here, the proof he well know the problem about VOD feedback before his recent bad feedback ..
as we  have talking about before the genesis #1 "issue"...
so he have used this to trying discredit me ...

https://i.imgur.com/QWrA64c.png

Posting private chat logs is not cool. There are other ways to deal with issues.

I don't see any indication that the messages posted were GPG encrypted so I don't see any reason why anyone would expect those messages to stay private. There should not be any expectation that a Personal message/direct message be kept private if they are not encrypted, especially if there is no explicit request to maintain confidentiality (a privnote sent in plaintext might be an exception to this, however it is still possible that someone will intercept this).  

@Lauda- are the screenshots of those messages an accurate representation of what you said to defcon23 at one point? If not then what is inaccurate?


I don't think that cryptodevil is an alt of neotux, and making this claim will only be a distraction.

I like how quickseller thinks that people PGP encrypt PMs on IRC Roll Eyes

If you're having a private discussion with someone and you then later publish that discussion then it's certainly an aggressive act.  It's also not clear that these screenshots aren't simply faked.  Anyone can use any username on IRC and it's really not hard to do a little image editing anyway.  In any case, it's not clear to me what defcon is accusing him of.  If the screenshots are real then it looks like Lauda wanted to buy some item or another and was feeling impatient, then it looks like he refused to get involved in a personal dispute between Vod and defcon.  what's the accusation here?
copper member
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and here's the contains of  PM with Lauda:

https://i.imgur.com/luOXJ8l.png


and here, the proof he well know the problem about VOD feedback before his recent bad feedback ..
as we  have talking about before the genesis #1 "issue"...
so he have used this to trying discredit me ...

https://i.imgur.com/QWrA64c.png

Posting private chat logs is not cool. There are other ways to deal with issues.

I don't see any indication that the messages posted were GPG encrypted so I don't see any reason why anyone would expect those messages to stay private. There should not be any expectation that a Personal message/direct message be kept private if they are not encrypted, especially if there is no explicit request to maintain confidentiality (a privnote sent in plaintext might be an exception to this, however it is still possible that someone will intercept this).  

@Lauda- are the screenshots of those messages an accurate representation of what you said to defcon23 at one point? If not then what is inaccurate?


I don't think that cryptodevil is an alt of neotux, and making this claim will only be a distraction.
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Goodbye, Z.
I told you I didn't want to comment on the matter between you and Lauda. Please don't pull me into the middle of fights where I have no stake in whatsoever, I'm already having my fair share of them as it is.
My concern was simply about where this discussion should take place, not how and what's being discussed.
legendary
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Regardless of what is going on between the two of you (I don't want to comment on it, I don't want to take sides, please keep me out of it),
does this really have anything to do with Lauda being a Mod and their abilities to moderate the sections under them?

If you want to discuss this situation, why not take it to a Reputation thread about Lauda?
I haven't seen any strong arguments about Laudas ability to be a mod or the lack therof in some sites now.
Lutpin : i think a moderator" should have a little something "more.." ,  and dont try to abuse of his position ... that's all ...   in this case,  the fact of i havent xant to trade with him for this specific coin  ( genesis #1 antique brass) , never should affect his judgement,  or motive i any way the bad ranking he left me for a one year old issue... )

as you can read it by yourself, we has talk about it , and this not had motived any bad ranking...
the reaction comes after i refused to sold him this shit coin, and by the way decided to auction it...




link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15536515

as you have said by yourself,: "Lauda's going to hate you .." , and you was perfectly right...


a real moderator never menaced to left a bad feedback  only for this fact ... this is not fair.

other precision:

the "these fakes" accusations against me are for an account sale .... ( 1 account ) do you syncerly think , as i've got tons of trades for so many bitcoins , with so many users, in so many deals, i will risk my btctalk reputation for only few cents ? ( escrow fees for 1 account sale ? ) ..... i let you think to this ..
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Goodbye, Z.
Regardless of what is going on between the two of you (I don't want to comment on it, I don't want to take sides, please keep me out of it),
does this really have anything to do with Lauda being a Mod and their abilities to moderate the sections under them?

If you want to discuss this situation, why not take it to a Reputation thread about Lauda?
I haven't seen any strong arguments about Laudas ability to be a mod or the lack therof in some sites now.
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1002
and here's the contains of  PM with Lauda:

https://i.imgur.com/luOXJ8l.png


and here, the proof he well know the problem about VOD feedback before his recent bad feedback ..
as we  have talking about before the genesis #1 "issue"...
so he have used this to trying discredit me ...

https://i.imgur.com/QWrA64c.png

Posting private chat logs is not cool. There are other ways to deal with issues.

and you think what Lauda's have done is cool ... ?  come back to reality dude

and trust me ... that's cool in comparaison to the following .....



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legendary
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the problem about VOD feedback

The problem with VOD's feedback? It references a thread where evidence was presented which proved you were 'pulling a QS' and self-escrowing your own alt's trades.

Where is the 'problem', other than the fact it rightly causes people to think twice about wanting to trade with you?


wrong : thre's no evidence ;. indeed , as it's fake :: where are your evidences ? lol

go back home neotox.. you're off topic .. ( and by the way: welcome to my ignore list ..)
legendary
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the problem about VOD feedback

The problem with VOD's feedback? It references a thread where evidence was presented which proved you were 'pulling a QS' and self-escrowing your own alt's trades.

Where is the 'problem', other than the fact it rightly causes people to think twice about wanting to trade with you?

legendary
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and here's the contains of  PM with Lauda:

https://i.imgur.com/luOXJ8l.png


and here, the proof he well know the problem about VOD feedback before his recent bad feedback ..
as we  have talking about before the genesis #1 "issue"...
so he have used this to trying discredit me ...

https://i.imgur.com/QWrA64c.png

Posting private chat logs is not cool. There are other ways to deal with issues.
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1002
and here's the contains of  PM with Lauda:




and here, the proof he well know the problem about VOD feedback before his recent bad feedback ..
as we  have talking about before the genesis #1 "issue"...
so he have used this to trying discredit me ...

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