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Topic: Q: Should Lauda *really* be a moderator of bitcointalk A: no - page 18. (Read 43401 times)

legendary
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I've contacted him in an attempt to make peace, he continues by writing a long wall of text and posts a screenshot here before I could even read it (not to mention reply to it).

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Is it time to rename the thread to "People from defcon's trust list praising defcon"? I don't see how this is relevant to me, the thread sidetracked anyways. That text is suited for a reputation thread. In the meantime (since the thread was created by neotox) he has left 3 retaliatory feedback (called Vod a scammer, called cryptodevil an alt of neotox and called neotox a "total scammer"), all of which are unjustified.

I've had no issue either. All good here.
I've had a trade with him as well, however that doesn't justify his past actions.

Lauda, how old are you?
Old enough to treat everyone equally, and old enough not to let people extort me into removing ratings (I was told to remove my rating in order to bid on the auction).

I feel like the timing of the accusation is biased due to other activities surrounding this event.
Even if I had left it 1 month from now, it would have been "due to not selling genesis on his terms" so I figured I might as well do it right now (which is 10 days after any discussions of a potential sale). The reasoning "You can't leave a negative rating if we had a strong argument" is nonsense. Keep in mind that my feedback is focused on the retaliatory unjustified feedback by him (one is 4 months old, and the latest one is 1 day old), not the fact that he used to run a bogus escrow scam. Quote:"and is thus untrustworthy regardless of the initial accusation."


hum;... i'm surprised i dont see any mentions on the untrustworthy feedbacks left against me :
1: by neotox one year ago
2: by the troll forum sheriff ( vod)  1 year ago too..
3: by the troll who comes in this discussion yesterday in shouting " burn the witch !!! "  lol  Cheesy


and by the way: if what you said is true , dear super moderator: why have you leave your feedback only yesterday ?  as the "story" was one year old ??  RE LOL  Grin


legendary
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Terminated.
I've contacted him in an attempt to make peace, he continues by writing a long wall of text and posts a screenshot here before I could even read it (not to mention reply to it).

-snip-
Is it time to rename the thread to "People from defcon's trust list praising defcon"? I don't see how this is relevant to me, the thread sidetracked anyways. That text is suited for a reputation thread. In the meantime (since the thread was created by neotox) he has left 3 retaliatory feedback (called Vod a scammer, called cryptodevil an alt of neotox and called neotox a "total scammer"), all of which are unjustified.

I've had no issue either. All good here.
I've had a trade with him as well, however that doesn't justify his past actions.

Lauda, how old are you?
Old enough to treat everyone equally, and old enough not to let people extort me into removing ratings (I was told to remove my rating in order to bid on the auction).

I feel like the timing of the accusation is biased due to other activities surrounding this event.
Even if I had left it 1 month from now, it would have been "due to not selling genesis on his terms" so I figured I might as well do it right now (which is 10 days after any discussions of a potential sale). The reasoning "You can't leave a negative rating if we had a strong argument" is nonsense. Keep in mind that my feedback is focused on the retaliatory unjustified feedback by him (one is 4 months old, and the latest one is 1 day old), not the fact that he used to run a bogus escrow scam. Quote:"and is thus untrustworthy regardless of the initial accusation."
donator
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between a rock and a block!
I've had no issue either. All good here.
Lauda, how old are you?
legendary
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Just looking for peace
I understand that there is some talk going on about some stuff here but really everything aside personally i have had many deals with Defcon and has paid him in advance for many coins that i bought from him and never had a problem , he is a very nice person to talk to as well Cheesy
Overall he's a great guy and i trust him Smiley

legendary
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another nice attempt..



missing down part :




legendary
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as you can see about this one , the auction for genesis #1 wasnt  closed .... so how you said ? 10 days ago ?? ...... i let to everyone do the counts   Cheesy
Just to clarify the false information so that it does not get used against me again, defcon23 contacted me first via Slack (not the other way around):

legendary
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Thread-puller extraordinaire
i will keep your case after  this

I don't even know what that means.

Fancy another swing at it?

legendary
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realy..... ??  Cheesy



Not sure why you think posting this puts you and a good light and Lauda not. You're the one being a threatening asshole in the above conversation.



go home neotox ! i will keep your case after  this ... forum sheriff ?? lol  (
cryptodevil = neotox   Cheesy )



as you can see about this one , the auction for genesis #1 wasnt  closed .... so how you said ? 10 days ago ?? ...... i let to everyone do the counts   Cheesy

YO!! enought shit for today !  Grin   have a nice day Wink

i think i will unfollow this thread ....  nothing to see.. Cool
legendary
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Thread-puller extraordinaire
realy..... ??  Cheesy



Not sure why you think posting this puts you and a good light and Lauda not. You're the one being a threatening asshole in the above conversation.

legendary
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realy..... ??  Cheesy
The discussion with him happened over 10 days ago and I have not contacted him afterwards in an attempt to buy the coin again.
Please read the full sentence one more time. I have even sent you a suggestion asking you not to leave false retaliatory feedback to other people (on IRC), but that was ignored. I don't even want to go into the part where I was told to remove the negative rating or my bids would be invalidated.
legendary
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The discussion with him happened over 10 days ago and I have not contacted him afterwards in an attempt to buy the coin again.
FALSE ! FALSE and FALSE again.   you're just  acting like a kid..  LOL  Cheesy  lamentable...

Last message (IRC - laptop logs):


Definitely false.

realy..... ??  Cheesy




as you can see about this one , the auction for genesis #1 wasnt  closed .... so how you said ? 10 days ago ?? ...... i let to everyone do the counts   Cheesy
legendary
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The discussion with him happened over 10 days ago and I have not contacted him afterwards in an attempt to buy the coin again.
FALSE ! FALSE and FALSE again.   you're just  acting like a kid..  LOL  Cheesy  lamentable...

Last message (IRC - laptop logs):


Definitely false.
legendary
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The discussion with him happened over 10 days ago and I have not contacted him afterwards in an attempt to buy the coin again.

FALSE ! FALSE and FALSE again.   you're just  acting like a kid..  LOL  Cheesy  lamentable...


moderator ?? you ?? let me laught ...   Grin
legendary
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I have left you appropriate feedback, and I encourage others to leave similar negative feedback.
I have left you appropriate negative feedback for falsely accusing me of wrongdoing(s).

-you offer to buy a coin from defcon23 for ~11% of what the coin eventually sells for (and what I presume similar coin(s) have sold for in the past) - via direct message
False. Don't make assumptions when you have no knowledge on this matter. I offered $25 which is more than the average of the last three sales ($20, $25 & $25). He said he's going to keep, so I left it at that and had a little fun with him in that chatroom (easily indentified by saying I'd leave miffman negative rating).

-you say that you will leave negative feedback if defcon23 does not sell the coin to you for your 11% price
It clearly says:"let me know who gets it so I can leave negative rating", not 'who sells it'. I don't see any invalid negative ratings on anyone from my profile.

-you say that it will be impossible to link IRC-lauda to btctlk-lauda
Just another example that I'm not serious in that chatroom, I tend to say that I'm in the matrix very often (very serious indeed). There was even talk of a potential meetup between Mitchell, defcon and myself afterwards (day or two after). So much for "extortion".

-you leave negative trust for defcon23 the very same day that he sells the coin to someone else via an auction over an issue that you knew about well in advance
The discussion with him happened over 10 days ago and I have not contacted him afterwards in an attempt to buy the coin again.

I don't see any indication that any of the conversations were intended to be private. Also most scammers/extortionists do not want their scam attempts/extortion attempts to be made public Cheesy
False. I'm saying that I don't agree with it, i.e. I agree with miffman. I don't mind this being public, it's just a chatroom.

I don't think it is appropriate to have extortionists as moderators.
You think that it is not appropriate to have people who breath as moderators, as long as they are called Lauda.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
I have read your feedback against me.  You called me a scammer when I have never scammed anyone, and you called QS innocent when it was proven he scammed by self escrow.  That alone makes you untrustworthy.
It sounds to me like you are leaving negative ratings over personal feelings Roll Eyes

What do I sound like in your little world?   Wink
copper member
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@Lauda- are the screenshots of those messages an accurate representation of what you said to defcon23 at one point? If not then what is inaccurate?
They are, but I consider them random gibberish.
I have left you appropriate feedback, and I encourage others to leave similar negative feedback.


The representation of the story is inaccurate,
What exactly is inaccurate?

From what I gather from the screenshots alone (which you admitted are generally accurate, so there is no reason to need to trust the person who posted the screenshots to not have forged the logs), the following happened:

-you offer to buy a coin from defcon23 for ~11% of what the coin eventually sells for (and what I presume similar coin(s) have sold for in the past) - via direct message
-you follow up with this offer in the public chat
-you say that you will leave negative feedback if defcon23 does not sell the coin to you for your 11% price
-you say that it will be impossible to link IRC-lauda to btctlk-lauda
-you say that IRC logs are not evidence
-you leave negative trust for defcon23 the very same day that he sells the coin to someone else via an auction over an issue that you knew about well in advance

I don't see how this can be seen as anything except extortion.

and I disagree with posting screenshot of private conversations without permission.
I don't see any indication that any of the conversations were intended to be private. Also most scammers/extortionists do not want their scam attempts/extortion attempts to be made public Cheesy

All of this is off-topic to this thread.
I don't think it is appropriate to have extortionists as moderators.




I have read your feedback against me.  You called me a scammer when I have never scammed anyone, and you called QS innocent when it was proven he scammed by self escrow.  That alone makes you untrustworthy.
It sounds to me like you are leaving negative ratings over personal feelings Roll Eyes

legendary
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Seriously, you're 1 year behind on providing feedback?
That is correct. There are several trades that happened more than 6 months ago that have yet to be attended.

And you're feedback for defcon is negative, but your feedback for QS is neutral? I appreciate your contributions to the forum, but I find the feedback you're leaving questionable and therefore worthless to me.
That rating was left some time ago, I'll catch up on that as well. I haven't left any questionable feedback (unless you disagree with the negative ones, which is a different story). Besides, this is still not relevant to meta but reputation.

Lauda passed the BCX extreme tolerance test  Wink
You can be entertaining at times. Cheesy
legendary
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So Lauda has associated with some shady people...

So he "Aggressively Post" and just so happens to have a Sig


Who the eff cares in regards to being a Moderator?

Like it or not Lauda is going to eventually be a Global Mod.

In my five plus years of being here, I have never been wrong in naming mods.

Lauda will eventually become a Global.



So if he is as shady and backstabbing as you guys claim

Better watch dafuq out ROFL.


 Grin Grin Grin


~BCX~



@Theymos

Lauda passed the BCX extreme tolerance test  Wink
hero member
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I'm a cynic, I'm a quaint
Well, if it is the case that he at first refused to intervene, and the dispute was over 1 year old, then he later intervened with a negative directly after you refused to trade with him, that seems like poor judgment.  
This has nothing to do with the personal dispute which happened some time ago. This person (currently ignored) is acting like a special snowflake. I've left several ratings recently as I've caught up on that (still a long list to go). The reasoning: "We had a dispute X time ago, and you aren't allowed to leave a negative rating ever" is bullshit. Don't get me started on unjustified retaliatory feedback, which should make one less trustworthy by default.

Seriously, you're 1 year behind on providing feedback? And you're feedback for defcon is negative, but your feedback for QS is neutral? I appreciate your contributions to the forum, but I find the feedback you're leaving questionable and therefore worthless to me.
full member
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I see Lauda has temporarily done away with the loud'n'flashy sig ad for a more demure... ad for a more lucrative sig ad.

If that's not ultra-meta, and a sign of a true gentlescholar, I don't know what is.

Always endeavoring to improve the conversational quality and SNR in these here fora, that Lauda.
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