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Topic: Q: Should Lauda *really* be a moderator of bitcointalk A: no - page 14. (Read 43401 times)

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If you have the DOX of Lauda please PM me. If you shipped to Lauda please PM me the address shipped to.

I will verify with public sources and publish her DOX.
I am not sure that doxing someone over this incident is appropriate. I would suggest that a more appropriate resolution would be a warning not to deal with Lauda, and removing her from being a mod. My opinion on this would obviously change in the event that additional evidence is uncovered that suggests this is more then an isolated incident.

I do find it strange that someone who has been as uncontroversial as Lauda in the past is going to such great lengths to protect their identity, especially considering the reputation of those Lauda has traded physical items with. Or maybe it is strange that Lutpin is claiming this to be a fact (when it is really not) -- if this is the case then Lutpin is clearly not the neutral party he is claiming to be in this thread -- are there any txid's that might backup these trades?

the resolution that i  came to was to each remove our negative trust ratings, and to replace them with positive trust that was from an actual deal. ..

I think that Lauda was trying to extort me, that i think the price of the coin was at least .25 when lauda offered $25 for it, and i don't think that Lauda was joking when he was threatening to leave me negative trust if i did not sell him the coin
I think this looks very bad on the side of Lauda. For starters, it appears this is more evidence that Lauda is engaging in trust farming. Secondly, and more importantly, it discredits the claim that Lauda was "joking" when he threatened to leave negative trust when the coin in question was put up for sale.

Last time I checked reporting was neither against the forum rules, nor was it being frowned upon (at least not by the people who's opinion I care about).
Why should't I "publicly admit" my reporting activity?
I'm open to talk about what reports I make for which reasons.
#1 from what I can gather, it looks like the posts in question probably should have been deleted.
#2 From what I can gather, you are somewhat close to Lauda, and appear to be backing him. From an outsider's perspective, one might be able to argue that the reason for the reports might be something more then you "came across" an old post that should be deleted.
#3 In the past, others have suddenly had a lot of old bumps deleted when they were in the middle of a dispute with someone. They sometimes receive this as being an intimidation tactic.
#4 with #2 being said, the fact that I do not like someone, or that I am on one side of an argument/dispute with someone will not prevent me from reporting their posts
#5 Considering #1, someone else would likely have eventually reported the posts anyway.

it's because Lada have try to extortion for this coin , he have menace to rate me in red on my ranking if i dont sold him this coin for 25$ as i pretty well know i would sold it for 0.25 bitcoins !
That's clearly extortion/blackmail
extortion was about a coin : genesis #1 ,  not relative to these deleted posts ... scroll a bit in this thread.
Huh
Lauda offered to buy a coin from defcon23 for $25. After defcon23 declined the offer, Lauda said she was going to leave negative trust (see screenshot here). Lauda claims that her threat of negative trust was a "joke". A few weeks later, defcon auctions off the coin in question, and Lauda leaves defcon23 negative trust on the day the auction was scheduled to end. (it might have been said that Lauda was not aware of the auction at the time the negative trust was left, but I am not 100% sure). The negative trust was over something that allegedly happened ~a year ago. The coin ended up selling for ~7 times the amount of Lauda's offer.

@QS: that sale by cjb is a series 1 coin, which imo can't be compared. I sold a #2 series 2 coin for much less roughly at the auction time.
The coin that Lauda was trying to buy still ended up selling for ~7x what Lauda was trying to pay for it.

You forgot to mention the fact that you threatened ("jokingly" or not) defcon23 with negative trust if he did not sell the coin to you. You also failed to mention that you told defcon23 that you expected to be asked to pay a higher price for a similar coin "later"
No. I wanted a more detailed timeline but defcon23 said it should be kept short and that other people could ask us directly what happened if they wanted to know. I'm not completely sure what you mean with the second part, but I did mention expecting to be asked ridiculous prices for the last piece(s).
You left out the reason why there is a dispute in the first place.

Yes, you said that you expected to be asked to pay a price that was higher then the $25 you were offering. You knew that you would not be able to buy the coin for $25 in the open market.
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defcon23 is the blackmailer in this matter, and he has a history of blackmail.

blackmail:  to force or coerce into a particular action, statement, etc.

I left defcon23 proper negative feedback after he was caught in a escrow scam.

He then left me negative feedback calling me a scammer.

He then sent me many PMs saying he would remove his feedback if I removed mine.  I finally had to block his PMs.

Now he did the same thing to Lauda, removing his lying feedback only once Lauda removed his feedback.

I have no idea why Lauda would leave that blackmailer POSITIVE feedback while he continues to insult Lauda.   Undecided
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You forgot to mention the fact that you threatened ("jokingly" or not) defcon23 with negative trust if he did not sell the coin to you. You also failed to mention that you told defcon23 that you expected to be asked to pay a higher price for a similar coin "later"
No. I wanted a more detailed timeline but defcon23 said it should be kept short and that other people could ask us directly what happened if they wanted to know. I'm not completely sure what you mean with the second part, but I did mention expecting to be asked ridiculous prices for the last piece(s).

You failed to mention that a less desirable coin (serial number 2 as opposed to 1) was selling for much more then your offer price here
I'm collecting Genesis series 2. These are series 1 coins and you use that for a price comparison(look at the thread update date)?



I highly advise you to stop pretending like you know what you're talking about (in this matter) when your knowledge regarding crypto-coins is questionable at best.
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Goodbye, Z.
I interfered with your auction because you failed to follow the rules you layed down within OP, which others confirmed.
I had no idea MJ was bidding for lauda at that time (I suspected it, strongly, but did NOT know it).
Accusing me of all this shit is shocking to me, integrity has always been a key to me.



@QS: that sale by cjb is a series 1 coin, which imo can't be compared. I sold a #2 series 2 coin for much less roughly at the auction time.
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Timeline of events (summary):

  • 02/07/2016 – I offered defcon23 a genesis trade-in or $25 for #1 Brass (which is what the coin was worth at the time, as the other #1 coins have sold for a maximum of $25). He declined my offer.
  • 09/07/2016 – Genesis Auction starts.
  • 12/07/2016 – Mutual negative ratings were left (I left the first rating). Later this day, the auction had finished[1].
  • 15/07/2016 – We have come to an agreement that  works for each other. We have made peace and have resumed normal communications.
       
[1] - I'm actually the person who won the auction as the current winner was bidding for me.

You forgot to mention the fact that you threatened ("jokingly" or not) defcon23 with negative trust if he did not sell the coin to you.

You also failed to mention that you told defcon23 that you expected to be asked to pay a higher price for a similar coin "later"

You failed to mention that a less desirable coin (serial number 2 as opposed to 1) was selling for much more then your offer price here
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you have ask to minerjones to bid for you, and syncerly never mind with this ...    
IIRC minerjones told me about it, I was not aware that the auction was in progress. In any case, he did it to prevent it from getting 'lost' (another one already is).

but, even in this auction , your friend Lutpin have acted ... read it  ( just because the price was goes too higuest for "you" ) ( 0.3 btc )
I was away during the auction ending (I think), and have only seen what happened after it happened. You can't blame Lutpin for pointing out incorrect bids (according to your own auction rules), can you? Not that this is relevant to the OP.

Breaking news: mini and I are partners in crime.
You forgot to add the part where you both were working for me.
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3: he work behind the scene against me with Lutpin , ...

I handled several if not all the reports. As already stated, Lutpin reported them and they were handled just like any other report would be. Lauda had nothing to do with it and bumps getting deleted aren't going to get you banned. Stop being paranoid.

Ok .. please explain me why should i sold a coin to Lauda for 25$ ( wich i can sold for 0.25 btc ) , and if i dont do it , have my rating painted in red ? is this normal ?

i have never scam anyone and always been honest with everyone .

This is the first I've heard of it and I'm not even sure what went on but I have no interest in getting in any drama between you and Lauda and that's something you two will have to work out. I merely just stopped by to tell you that I deleted those posts that were constituted as bumps and there's no vast conspiracy going on against you.
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Looks like some unintended consequences from reporting posts?  Could look sneaky but maybe it's just unexpected result...
I can't have anything to do with this even if I wanted it (someone else would have to confirm a rule was broken in order to delete them).

you always be... the "resolution" have never  change this "fact"
you perfectly know what you have done .
Again, I apologize for the unintended mess from a chatroom. I'm at most semi-serious there unless there's a deep conversation going on. I have bought the coin via the auction and would have most likely offered you a lot more back when I offered $25 (but you refused to sell).




you have ask to minerjones to bid for you, and syncerly never mind with this ...    but, even in this auction , your friend Lutpin have acted ... read it  ( just because the price was goes too higuest for "you" ) ( 0.3 btc )


and about this post:

Breaking news: mini and I are partners in crime.

it is not less or more "inconsitent post than the ones you have reported from mine)
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Breaking news: mini and I are partners in crime.
Damnit, this was meant to be a secret!
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Goodbye, Z.
Breaking news: mini and I are partners in crime.



Damnit, this was meant to be a secret!
Just for the record: YOU'RE Bonny, and I'm Clyde. No-one should think it's the other way around. Kiss
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Looks like some unintended consequences from reporting posts?  Could look sneaky but maybe it's just unexpected result...
I can't have anything to do with this even if I wanted it (someone else would have to confirm a rule was broken in order to delete them).

I handled several if not all the reports.

you always be... the "resolution" have never  change this "fact"
you perfectly know what you have done .
Again, I apologize for the unintended mess from a chatroom. I'm at most semi-serious there unless there's a deep conversation going on. I have bought the coin via the auction and would have most likely offered you a lot more back when I offered $25 (but you refused to sell).

Ok .. please explain me why should i sold a coin to Lauda for 25$ ( wich i can sold for 0.25 btc ) , and if i dont do it , have my rating painted in red ? is this normal ?
Again, it was because of the bad feedback that you left on others. You've fixed it and thus I removed my rating. We've been over this several times now?
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3: he work behind the scene against me with Lutpin , ...

I handled several if not all the reports. As already stated, Lutpin reported them and they were handled just like any other report would be. Lauda had nothing to do with it and bumps getting deleted aren't going to get you banned. Stop being paranoid.

Ok .. please explain me why should i sold a coin to Lauda for 25$ ( wich i can sold for 0.25 btc ) , and if i dont do it , have my rating painted in red ? is this normal ?

i have never scam anyone and always been honest with everyone .
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3: he work behind the scene against me with Lutpin , ...

I handled several if not all the reports. As already stated, Lutpin reported them and they were handled just like any other report would be. Lauda had nothing to do with it and bumps getting deleted aren't going to get you banned. Stop being paranoid.
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i have screenshots of those deleted posts ... that's not some bumps, and nothing offensive or what in those..
Then send them to a global moderator, such as Cyrus or Hilariousandco, and ask why they were removed. Either that, or post the screenshots here and I'm sure someone will tell you what you did wrong.

by the way Lutpin have publiquely admit too ... ( i'm not so wrong) it was him ... soooo, why this hate and this mass reports since 15 jully ?
Because your post was breaking a rule, and Lutpin doesn't want posts that break the rules to be on the forum, so he reports them? Lutpin has reported over 6,000 posts, and I'm sure they're not all yours. I've had posts which are months old deleted, a few days is nothing.

it's because Lada have try to extortion for this coin , he have menace to rate me in red on my ranking if i dont sold him this coin for 25$ as i pretty well know i would sold it for 0.25 bitcoins !
That's clearly extortion/blackmail
extortion was about a coin : genesis #1 ,  not relative to these deleted posts ... scroll a bit in this thread.
Huh

@minifrij: I've captured theymos in my basement and all the mods have to answer to my askings. My plan is to take over the forum, rename it to buttcointalk and to replace all sections with either KnC discussion or ETH/Bitcoin-Ponzi FUD.
Who are you and what have you done with BadBear?

NO i will send directly to Theymos . i need to understand and to explain .
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i have screenshots of those deleted posts ... that's not some bumps, and nothing offensive or what in those..
Then send them to a global moderator, such as Cyrus or Hilariousandco, and ask why they were removed. Either that, or post the screenshots here and I'm sure someone will tell you what you did wrong.

by the way Lutpin have publiquely admit too ... ( i'm not so wrong) it was him ... soooo, why this hate and this mass reports since 15 jully ?
Because your post was breaking a rule, and Lutpin doesn't want posts that break the rules to be on the forum, so he reports them? Lutpin has reported over 6,000 posts, and I'm sure they're not all yours. I've had posts which are months old deleted, a few days is nothing.

it's because Lada have try to extortion for this coin , he have menace to rate me in red on my ranking if i dont sold him this coin for 25$ as i pretty well know i would sold it for 0.25 bitcoins !
That's clearly extortion/blackmail
extortion was about a coin : genesis #1 ,  not relative to these deleted posts ... scroll a bit in this thread.
Huh

@minifrij: I've captured theymos in my basement and all the mods have to answer to my askings. My plan is to take over the forum, rename it to buttcointalk and to replace all sections with either KnC discussion or ETH/Bitcoin-Ponzi FUD.
Who are you and what have you done with BadBear?



i would like to understand why this post have been deleted:
Quote from: Bitcoin Forum
snip
Oh, I reported this one. I reported it because you did nothing to change the previous, quoted post but make some text red and blue, making it a useless post. You could have done the same thing with an edit.
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Regardless of what is going on between the two of you (I don't want to comment on it, I don't want to take sides, please keep me out of it),
does this really have anything to do with Lauda being a Mod and their abilities to moderate the sections under them?

If you want to discuss this situation, why not take it to a Reputation thread about Lauda?
I haven't seen any strong arguments about Laudas ability to be a mod or the lack therof in some sites now.
Lutpin : i think a moderator" should have a little something "more.." ,  and dont try to abuse of his position ... that's all ...   in this case,  the fact of i havent xant to trade with him for this specific coin  ( genesis #1 antique brass) , never should affect his judgement,  or motive i any way the bad ranking he left me for a one year old issue... )

as you can read it by yourself, we has talk about it , and this not had motived any bad ranking...
the reaction comes after i refused to sold him this shit coin, and by the way decided to auction it...




link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15536515

as you have said by yourself,: "Lauda's going to hate you .." , and you was perfectly right...


a real moderator never menaced to left a bad feedback  only for this fact ... this is not fair.

other precision:

all "these fakes" accusations against me are for an account sale related .... ( 1 account ) do you syncerly think , as i've got tons & tons of trades for so many bitcoins , with so many users, in so many deals, & will risk my btctalk reputation for only few cents ? ( escrow fees for 1 account sale ? ) ..... i let you think to this ..

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Looks like some unintended consequences from reporting posts?  Could look sneaky but maybe it's just unexpected result...

Calm down all plz.
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extortion was about a coin : genesis #1 ,  not relative to these deleted posts ... scroll a bit in this thread.
So this is irrelevant to the extortion?

the reports ( abusives) are made by Lutpin , wich work with Lauda beind the scene , against me .
You do understand that Lauda did not delete your posts, as that is impossible, right? And that reports have to be approved by a moderator of the section before anything happens to them, so even if Lutpin did report them the reports were correct and breaking some sort of rule?
What point are you trying to make here, on this thread about Lauda? That you're unhappy a moderator, that isn't Lauda, deleted your post?

1: Lauda have tried extortion against  me for a coin ( already explained....   "25$ for this coin or i rate you in red , and launch of my troll army against you ..) ( what he did)

2:  he propose to solve this cause it start to smell bad for him...

3: he work behind the scene against me with Lutpin , ...
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@Lauda: My intentions when reporting some of the posts defcon made in the past were not to resparkle the conflict of yours (neither was it my intention to start one myself, for what it's worth), I'm sorry should this now be the result, I didn't expect them to react in a way like this.
I understand that. Who would have expected someone to get upset over a few posts. Sometimes, even my own old posts get deleted. It's not something to stress about unless you were damaged in the process (e.g. highly constructive posts).

Unless there is a bigger conspiracy at hand that the mods don't want us to know about. Roll Eyes
You mean this (from the chat) "lauda=  hilaroius= cyrus= malevolent"? Cheesy

the reports ( abusives) are made by Lutpin , wich work with Lauda beind the scene , against me .
Again, I have nothing to do with this. I've found about it when you messaged me on IRC regarding the matter.

So this is irrelevant to the extortion?
One day I'm not an extortionist, the next day I am. I guess it changes with the weather. Lips sealed

You do understand that Lauda did not delete your posts, as that is impossible, right?
That is correct. Even if I had something to do with this (which I honestly don't) another (more experienced) moderator would have to agree to delete it.

it's because Lada have try to extortion for this coin , he have menace to rate me in red on my ranking if i dont sold him this coin for 25$ as i pretty well know i would sold it for 0.25 bitcoins !
So now we can see in the future and determine what the price of a coin is going to be? Anyhow, I'm the one who bought it through mj for 0.25BTC.
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Last time I checked reporting was neither against the forum rules, nor was it being frowned upon (at least not by the people who's opinion I care about).
Why should't I "publicly admit" my reporting activity?
I'm open to talk about what reports I make for which reasons.
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