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Quote from: seoincorporation on November 18, 2022, 11:38:36 AM

It's one of those hot news, and you can find in almost all the Newspapers.

It looks like Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players for $7.4 millions to lose the wold cup opener. And this isn't weird to me, i mean if they already pay a shit ton of money to have the world cup in their country then we can expect from this world cup to be the most corrupt event in the Soccer history.

Some sources:
https://sportsbrief.com/football/28069-reports-qatar-bribed-ecuadorian-players-74-million-lose-opener/
https://www.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/11/18/6376cfc7ca4741cc208b4573.html

Right now odds pays x3.26 if Qatar win, i know is a risky bet but i'm almost sure they will win. Will you place bets on this game after knowing about the bribe?

Politics and Sport are two different things and that is what FIFA has always kick against, no racism, no religion and no favouritism but it seems the more they try to avoid this things, the more they occur which makes me to remember the speech made by Morgan Freeman in the World Cup ground opening. he asked the boy that "what bring us together today here is bigger than what divide us and how long could we make it last?'' and the Qatar boy recite some quran a reference that it is through respect and tolerance, this message was made to counter this kind of rumours and hate among us.

Football has unite us all irrespective of our religion, respect other people religions and culture, we can't attack them because of their culture and looking at their performance so far, they will not be making it out in the group stage, just free Qatar and lets enjoy football for just this 1 month. Undecided

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 28, 2022, 04:01:07 AM

Quote from: Cryptock on November 26, 2022, 06:35:36 PM

The whole world is trying to prove that Qatar is not a good host for the foot ball world cup = yesterday I was watching a video and fox news journalist said that I didn't like special gate for women .. but in muslim culture - woman don't search men and men don't touch woman so they are not ready to respect the culture of Qatar.

Maybe Qatar isn't a very good host but it's all happening now, whether we like it or not. And those who go to Qatar to watch the World Cup in person must follow the rules there so they don't get into trouble later. If I'm not mistaken, there is a rule that allows drinking 3 hours before the match or 1 hour after the match ends but I don't know if that's true or not. Some rules have been changed because they conform to the existing rules and we, as an audience, must follow them.

Muslim culture is very different - they have strict rules for beer and gambling.
The point mentioned above is also very important - women are not supposed to touch stranger men and men dont touch women - this is the rule and everyone abide by this rule.

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 26, 2022, 06:35:36 PM

The whole world is trying to prove that Qatar is not a good host for the foot ball world cup = yesterday I was watching a video and fox news journalist said that I didn't like special gate for women .. but in muslim culture - woman don't search men and men don't touch woman so they are not ready to respect the culture of Qatar.

Maybe Qatar isn't a very good host but it's all happening now, whether we like it or not. And those who go to Qatar to watch the World Cup in person must follow the rules there so they don't get into trouble later. If I'm not mistaken, there is a rule that allows drinking 3 hours before the match or 1 hour after the match ends but I don't know if that's true or not. Some rules have been changed because they conform to the existing rules and we, as an audience, must follow them.

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Quote from: Theones on November 26, 2022, 06:59:28 PM

Quote from: Vaskiy on November 26, 2022, 06:56:13 PM

Qatar hosting the FIFA at its best than the previous seasons. This is a big thing that the westerners can't accept. Maybe for the reason more stories are getting tied up with Qatar. For some reason all the claims against Qatar have been broken, but the death of workers during the development of the sports Village hasn't been cleared and it stands as a black mark over the host forever.

But Qatar has been bullied so much but the west media - but the Qatar is adamant on their term which is very good move
Everyculture should respect other culture

Well, for me this enters into a very controversial issue, both those from Qatar and those from any country have their ways of doing things and I think they are very delicate questioning their way of living and doing things, as they have said many, it is better to concentrate on football, which is what really matters, and those issues that are focused on the political order should not be there because it tarnishes a game as beautiful as football, it is better to concentrate on the football that we have Seen, for it to continue to be successful, if we get to see each other, everything affects the people who continue to go to the stadium to see their countries participate, despite everything I think that football unites, and this time the Qataris changed being hosts, so we have to take the best of the experiences in their land.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on November 26, 2022, 06:56:13 PM

Qatar hosting the FIFA at its best than the previous seasons. This is a big thing that the westerners can't accept. Maybe for the reason more stories are getting tied up with Qatar. For some reason all the claims against Qatar have been broken, but the death of workers during the development of the sports Village hasn't been cleared and it stands as a black mark over the host forever.

But Qatar has been bullied so much but the west media - but the Qatar is adamant on their term which is very good move
Everyculture should respect other culture

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Qatar hosting the FIFA at its best than the previous seasons. This is a big thing that the westerners can't accept. Maybe for the reason more stories are getting tied up with Qatar. For some reason all the claims against Qatar have been broken, but the death of workers during the development of the sports Village hasn't been cleared and it stands as a black mark over the host forever.

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Its a culture clash of course, some respect for a country which is not your own is needed. You are correct really, alot of the western press expect the entire world to think exactly as they do and that attitude has always been there to some extent. Its a lack of thought rather then any deliberate policy, hosting the world cup itself is probably some attempt to break down these barriers at least partly and show people are more similar then would be expected even with the differences in society that will remain before and after the world cup.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 26, 2022, 06:30:15 PM

Quote from: Plaguedeath on November 23, 2022, 09:52:24 PM

1. Qatar vs Ecuador match was done and Ecuador won for 2-0 against Qatar.
2. No evidence if Qatar bribed 8 players from Ecuador.
3. Why no one discuss if Saudi Arabia bribed Argentina players and Japan bribed Germany players? Cheesy

There's nothing should be discussed anymore, why we need to discuss to a match that has been ended and the result goes wrong with people prediction. I ask to @OP to lock this thread and just focus to the next world cup match.

I do agree, but there were allegations though, and that's why it is being discussed whether this allegations are true or not.

And with Ecuador winning against the host, maybe they back up or something because they are in the limelight?

Those nations that you mentioned, we haven't heard anything though. But for the Qatari's they made a lot of noises in world cup not this one and has been discussed several pages back (like migrant workers dying and others).

The whole world is trying to prove that Qatar is not a good host for the foot ball world cup = yesterday I was watching a video and fox news journalist said that I didn't like special gate for women .. but in muslim culture - woman don't search men and men don't touch woman so they are not ready to respect the culture of Qatar.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on November 23, 2022, 09:52:24 PM

1. Qatar vs Ecuador match was done and Ecuador won for 2-0 against Qatar.
2. No evidence if Qatar bribed 8 players from Ecuador.
3. Why no one discuss if Saudi Arabia bribed Argentina players and Japan bribed Germany players? Cheesy

There's nothing should be discussed anymore, why we need to discuss to a match that has been ended and the result goes wrong with people prediction. I ask to @OP to lock this thread and just focus to the next world cup match.

I do agree, but there were allegations though, and that's why it is being discussed whether this allegations are true or not.

And with Ecuador winning against the host, maybe they back up or something because they are in the limelight?

Those nations that you mentioned, we haven't heard anything though. But for the Qatari's they made a lot of noises in world cup not this one and has been discussed several pages back (like migrant workers dying and others).

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on November 25, 2022, 05:38:11 PM

Quote from: seoincorporation on November 18, 2022, 11:38:36 AM

It's one of those hot news, and you can find in almost all the Newspapers.

It looks like Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players for $7.4 millions to lose the wold cup opener. And this isn't weird to me, i mean if they already pay a shit ton of money to have the world cup in their country then we can expect from this world cup to be the most corrupt event in the Soccer history.

Some sources:
https://sportsbrief.com/football/28069-reports-qatar-bribed-ecuadorian-players-74-million-lose-opener/
https://www.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/11/18/6376cfc7ca4741cc208b4573.html

Right now odds pays x3.26 if Qatar win, i know is a risky bet but i'm almost sure they will win. Will you place bets on this game after knowing about the bribe?

I'd be more worried about the refs calling some terribly placed calls during a tight game then players from another te throwing the game. I hope no one on bet on Qatar based on this information. I know there is scandle throughout soccer but hopefully it's minimal during the world cup. Takes the fun out of watching each match.

Its already done.
Ecuador wins which isnt surprising.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/sports/football/qatar-vs-ecuador-football-live-score-fifa-world-cup-2022-qat-vs-ecu-group-a-al-bayt-stadium-qatar-101668942127149.html

If this one turns out to happen where players on the other team had those odd plays then pretty sure it would really be getting lots of boos
and there would be lots of questions and criticism for that opener game.

It is really just impossible if we do base up in between statistics where Qatar could beat them out.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on November 25, 2022, 04:31:22 PM

They will have enough money in Qatar, but such bribery scandals are too striking. Then players would have to consciously make mistakes, you can't do something like that inconspicuously. And what about the money the players get? Then there would be bank transfers or a large sum of money at once. Players from both Ecuador and Qatar also have a great sense of honor, you don't often hear about bribery at a World Cup. But when players are bribed, it is often because bets are being placed on those matches. Since that wouldn't be the issue right now, you could get away with it. But looking at the level of the first game, I think it was the other way around Grin

seems that the rumour may not be true after all. we have seen how the game went down. so maybe, certain people or entities just wanted to spread the false news of this bribery. we don't know, especially if there was large sum of money involved. this is why, just trust your instincts esp. if you are betting your own money. we can't trust the hearsays. they usually turned out to be fake.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on November 18, 2022, 11:38:36 AM

It's one of those hot news, and you can find in almost all the Newspapers.

It looks like Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players for $7.4 millions to lose the wold cup opener. And this isn't weird to me, i mean if they already pay a shit ton of money to have the world cup in their country then we can expect from this world cup to be the most corrupt event in the Soccer history.

Some sources:
https://sportsbrief.com/football/28069-reports-qatar-bribed-ecuadorian-players-74-million-lose-opener/
https://www.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/11/18/6376cfc7ca4741cc208b4573.html

Right now odds pays x3.26 if Qatar win, i know is a risky bet but i'm almost sure they will win. Will you place bets on this game after knowing about the bribe?

I'd be more worried about the refs calling some terribly placed calls during a tight game then players from another te throwing the game. I hope no one on bet on Qatar based on this information. I know there is scandle throughout soccer but hopefully it's minimal during the world cup. Takes the fun out of watching each match.

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They will have enough money in Qatar, but such bribery scandals are too striking. Then players would have to consciously make mistakes, you can't do something like that inconspicuously. And what about the money the players get? Then there would be bank transfers or a large sum of money at once. Players from both Ecuador and Qatar also have a great sense of honor, you don't often hear about bribery at a World Cup. But when players are bribed, it is often because bets are being placed on those matches. Since that wouldn't be the issue right now, you could get away with it. But looking at the level of the first game, I think it was the other way around Grin

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 25, 2022, 05:49:21 AM

The goverment is too busy organizing and dealing with the fans maybe later when the world cup is over - they will catch the people acountable.
But I think this is not a good thing to do propaganda against any country or religion

It can be true that they are busy in regards to organizing the event but I don't think it was their duty to accommodate the fans. Fans should be handled already by the players or can also depend on their managers.

Now that Qatar losses the match, I hope the negative rumours about them are now going to disappear and the government won't bother talking an action after the event is over. They will just relax and then move on to their other projects. In everything that we do, there will always be a hater but I think what triggers these haters is the tragic event that happened to the workers on building the stadium (as seen on the above post by @Sithara007).

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Quote from: noormcs5 on November 24, 2022, 02:01:34 PM

Quote from: Docnaster on November 24, 2022, 02:54:45 AM

All the rumours about Qatar bribing Ecuador are all fake from the bottom of hell. Such rumours should be discarded especially when Ecuador finally won Qatar. Assuming Qatar won Ecuador, the rumour would have gotten another level of relevance, but as it appears now this rumour is dead.

The OP of this thread or hilariousandco should lock this thread because it is a thread that deceives and spread false information that has the capacity to deceive gamblers to lose money.

Well, is there any news that the media house which first produced this fake news got plenty for publishing and telling false information to the public?

Apart from betting, and influencing the gamblers to make wrong betting on this fake news, this is a matter of National dignity and it was done to put a bad name to the world cup hosts Qatar.

I think the Qatar government should take it seriously and demand punishment for those who publish this fake news.

The goverment is too busy organizing and dealing with the fans maybe later when the world cup is over - they will catch the people acountable.
But I think this is not a good thing to do propaganda against any country or religion

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 24, 2022, 02:54:45 AM

All the rumours about Qatar bribing Ecuador are all fake from the bottom of hell. Such rumours should be discarded especially when Ecuador finally won Qatar. Assuming Qatar won Ecuador, the rumour would have gotten another level of relevance, but as it appears now this rumour is dead.

The OP of this thread or hilariousandco should lock this thread because it is a thread that deceives and spread false information that has the capacity to deceive gamblers to lose money.

Well, is there any news that the media house which first produced this fake news got plenty for publishing and telling false information to the public?

Apart from betting, and influencing the gamblers to make wrong betting on this fake news, this is a matter of National dignity and it was done to put a bad name to the world cup hosts Qatar.

I think the Qatar government should take it seriously and demand punishment for those who publish this fake news.

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All the rumours about Qatar bribing Ecuador are all fake from the bottom of hell. Such rumours should be discarded especially when Ecuador finally won Qatar. Assuming Qatar won Ecuador, the rumour would have gotten another level of relevance, but as it appears now this rumour is dead.

The OP of this thread or hilariousandco should lock this thread because it is a thread that deceives and spread false information that has the capacity to deceive gamblers to lose money.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on November 23, 2022, 09:52:24 PM

1. Qatar vs Ecuador match was done and Ecuador won for 2-0 against Qatar.
2. No evidence if Qatar bribed 8 players from Ecuador.
3. Why no one discuss if Saudi Arabia bribed Argentina players and Japan bribed Germany players? Cheesy

There's nothing should be discussed anymore, why we need to discuss to a match that has been ended and the result goes wrong with people prediction. I ask to @OP to lock this thread and just focus to the next world cup match.

Even though Ecuador won the match, it would still be nice to know if there was bribing happening or not. Seems like a big deal to me if the host country really engages in trying to bribe the enemy team. Only the attempt on it's own should already have major consequences and remove Qatar from the worldcup. I am not so sure about the average wages for professional football players in Ecuador, but to me it seems that 1 million is a huge amount. Shouldn't that be flagged by the banks? When 8 players get so much money added to their bank account there should be some kind of proof that could easily be investigated. It baffles me a bit that there is no demand by the international community to investigate the claims furthers. Also there was no need for Japan to bribe any Germany players, we are doing this happily on our own. 4 years ago it was South Korea, now it's Japan. The german team can't handle the pressure. Gonda played exceptionally well during that match, he deserves to win. Now I am rooting for a Japan to get far during the tournament as I lost all my money on Germany and not going to trust them again this cup.

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1. Qatar vs Ecuador match was done and Ecuador won for 2-0 against Qatar.
2. No evidence if Qatar bribed 8 players from Ecuador.
3. Why no one discuss if Saudi Arabia bribed Argentina players and Japan bribed Germany players? Cheesy

There's nothing should be discussed anymore, why we need to discuss to a match that has been ended and the result goes wrong with people prediction. I ask to @OP to lock this thread and just focus to the next world cup match.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on November 23, 2022, 11:46:31 AM

Partially, I did not believe that news right away, but because it is Qatar, I cannot just say that it isn't impossible. Especially when $7.4 million is only dust money for that tiny yet super-rich gulf nation. Now it is becoming more impossible for Qatar to win a single game when Maneless Senegal played a high-level game against the Netherlands. It was just unfortunate for Senegal when unexpectedly the Netherlands landed 2 goals in the dying minutes of the game. The way Senegal and Qatar played in their previous games, I give zero chance for the latter to win except if miracles are true.

I watched both matches, and can say that Senegal performed better in their match against Netherlands, when compared to the performance by Qatar against Ecuador. Qatar's remaining matches are against Netherlands and Senegal. There is absolutely zero chance that they will get any points from the first one. So their only hope is against Senegal. The latter are playing without their best player, so a win for Qatar is possible. But if they underestimate Senegal, then they will be the first host team to finish with zero points in the preliminary phase.

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