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Quote from: Woodie on November 22, 2022, 10:58:33 PM

With corruption allegations surrounding Qatars hosting of the worldcup and a very expensive hosting of the game thanks to new structures and all, it's very easy not to make such match fixing claims because these guys aren't much of a footballing nation and can afford a few pieces of silver for their glory... Tbh at this point a genuine win by them will easily be taken as a bought game, but on paper they are the weaker team of the group.

Partially, I did not believe that news right away, but because it is Qatar, I cannot just say that it isn't impossible. Especially when $7.4 million is only dust money for that tiny yet super-rich gulf nation. Now it is becoming more impossible for Qatar to win a single game when Maneless Senegal played a high-level game against the Netherlands. It was just unfortunate for Senegal when unexpectedly the Netherlands landed 2 goals in the dying minutes of the game. The way Senegal and Qatar played in their previous games, I give zero chance for the latter to win except if miracles are true.

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There are just unfortunate seasons for our favorite teams including by chance fortune and manipulated. I am hearing a lot recently about the league wherein they've really expected their teams to move on the next stage but emded up losing with an underdog team. I can relate even if I'm into a different sports. Maybe such thing could occur in any league. That's a part of it even if it would seem not to, 'coz of allegations. But as others are saying, it would be more impossible to reset the game. The results are final and we need to accept it even if it is hard. There will be another seasons or league for our biases and we just have to be patient as their fan.

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With corruption allegations surrounding Qatars hosting of the worldcup and a very expensive hosting of the game thanks to new structures and all, it's very easy not to make such match fixing claims because these guys aren't much of a footballing nation and can afford a few pieces of silver for their glory... Tbh at this point a genuine win by them will easily be taken as a bought game, but on paper they are the weaker team of the group.

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Quote from: vvikkass on November 22, 2022, 01:42:55 AM

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This very horrendous gossip was first spread starting from their statement, Qatar has lost in the ceremony match and I think we can forget about this issue, even though this rumor will go down in world cup history

Qatar deserves whatever shit they are getting right now. Ever since they won the hosting rights in 2010 (by bribing delegates from poor nations), they have behaved in such a shameless manner. They have refused to compensate dead migrant workers and they banned beer in the stadiums just two days before the kickoff. If these sort of allegations are levelled against any other team (say for example Iran or United States), we would probably ignore it. But that is not the case with Qatar, because we already know how corrupt they are.

Qatar has done everything in superb manner to host this worldcup. They spend 230 billion USD for this worldcup, I dont know whether news about this thread is true or not. since Qatar lost the game so we can say they this is not true. Poor migrant worker face same treatment not only in Qatar but in whole gulf.

I don't know how much Qatar spent on hosting the world cup. What I know is that they didn't provided even $1 in compensation for those migrant workers who died during the construction of these stadiums.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde22/4614/2021/en/ (check the report, it explicitly states that Qatar never paid any compensation to the families of dead workers)

The official report from Amnesty is that ~6,500 workers died during the 2011-2020 period. However unofficial reports claim that the number of deaths amounts to 15,021. If they had spent $230 billion in the construction of stadiums, they could have spent less than 0.01% of that amount to provide a compensation of $1,000 each to the dead workers.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 21, 2022, 11:07:05 PM

Quote from: Tumanggor on November 21, 2022, 02:27:48 PM

This very horrendous gossip was first spread starting from their statement, Qatar has lost in the ceremony match and I think we can forget about this issue, even though this rumor will go down in world cup history

Qatar deserves whatever shit they are getting right now. Ever since they won the hosting rights in 2010 (by bribing delegates from poor nations), they have behaved in such a shameless manner. They have refused to compensate dead migrant workers and they banned beer in the stadiums just two days before the kickoff. If these sort of allegations are levelled against any other team (say for example Iran or United States), we would probably ignore it. But that is not the case with Qatar, because we already know how corrupt they are.

Qatar has done everything in superb manner to host this worldcup. They spend 230 billion USD for this worldcup, I dont know whether news about this thread is true or not. since Qatar lost the game so we can say they this is not true. Poor migrant worker face same treatment not only in Qatar but in whole gulf.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on November 21, 2022, 02:27:48 PM

This very horrendous gossip was first spread starting from their statement, Qatar has lost in the ceremony match and I think we can forget about this issue, even though this rumor will go down in world cup history

Qatar deserves whatever shit they are getting right now. Ever since they won the hosting rights in 2010 (by bribing delegates from poor nations), they have behaved in such a shameless manner. They have refused to compensate dead migrant workers and they banned beer in the stadiums just two days before the kickoff. If these sort of allegations are levelled against any other team (say for example Iran or United States), we would probably ignore it. But that is not the case with Qatar, because we already know how corrupt they are.

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Quote from: dunfida on November 21, 2022, 02:31:35 PM

It would really be raising lots of questions on whats the motive on spreading out these rumors? Some are saying that it didnt really happen because it was been bust up which they didnt really let it for it to happen.

Maybe it happen but since it was exposed they did not push through with it because the world will watch and observe how both team will play

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It would be the biggest issue on where on attached on WC.We dont actually know on whats the origin of this rumor which is really that something a very bad thing if it did really happen.

it's very controversial indeed definitely it comes from those who don't want Qatar to host the World Cup and put them in an embarrassing situation

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Comparing both teams then you could say which one is strong and which one is not.It would really be raising eyebrows if Qatar did able to beat up Ecuador. Cheesy

If this comes after they beat Ecuador this is not going to be good for Qatar's campaign every game people will have a suspicion if they bribe the other team, maybe they just want to win the opener as a good omen.

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Ecuador - 2
Qatar - 0

I guess that tells us that the rumors of bribing were just meant to discredit the host and event unless they suddenly start scoring 3 goals in 10 to 15 minutes. It's really hard to think any country would allow themselves to be tainted on the most prestigious tournament in the world.

their scores do not really prove anything. As I said before a proper investigation should be done because despite Qatar losing in the opening match there is still a chance that the players of Ecuador were tried to be bribed and are telling the truth and if found that they are telling the truth appropriate actions should be done. but if they are found to be lying they should be found accountable for possible damages that were done because of the rumor.

The score indicates they're not throwin away a game.

It's the World Cup and not some unknown league or competition. They cannot throw a game that easily and not be suspected. Each participating country knows and understands the severity of the punishment for match fixing or bribing so it makes no sense for Qatar to make such offer and face a huge penalty after spending so much for hosting the event.

Qatar bribed the the 8 players and lost the match - who is spreading all these rumors?
There are so many controversies and there are so much going on in the stadium will be the biggest memory of the world cup for sure

It would really be raising lots of questions on whats the motive on spreading out these rumors? Some are saying that it didnt really happen because it was been bust up which they didnt really let it for it to happen.

It would be the biggest issue on where on attached on WC.We dont actually know on whats the origin of this rumor which is really that something a very bad thing if it did really happen.

Comparing both teams then you could say which one is strong and which one is not.It would really be raising eyebrows if Qatar did able to beat up Ecuador. Cheesy

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 21, 2022, 02:18:59 PM

Quote from: Yogee on November 21, 2022, 01:39:59 PM

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Ecuador - 2
Qatar - 0

I guess that tells us that the rumors of bribing were just meant to discredit the host and event unless they suddenly start scoring 3 goals in 10 to 15 minutes. It's really hard to think any country would allow themselves to be tainted on the most prestigious tournament in the world.

their scores do not really prove anything. As I said before a proper investigation should be done because despite Qatar losing in the opening match there is still a chance that the players of Ecuador were tried to be bribed and are telling the truth and if found that they are telling the truth appropriate actions should be done. but if they are found to be lying they should be found accountable for possible damages that were done because of the rumor.

The score indicates they're not throwin away a game.

It's the World Cup and not some unknown league or competition. They cannot throw a game that easily and not be suspected. Each participating country knows and understands the severity of the punishment for match fixing or bribing so it makes no sense for Qatar to make such offer and face a huge penalty after spending so much for hosting the event.

Qatar bribed the the 8 players and lost the match - who is spreading all these rumors?
There are so many controversies and there are so much going on in the stadium will be the biggest memory of the world cup for sure

We need to forget about this news and rumor and move on. We now know that Qatar was honest and they did not cheat.
Perhaps a loss was good for them.

Apart from the match, the stadiums and everything's look so beautiful at Qatar. They have really worked hard to produce a masterpiece stadiums at Doha and nearby.

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 21, 2022, 02:18:59 PM

Qatar bribed the the 8 players and lost the match - who is spreading all these rumors?
There are so many controversies and there are so much going on in the stadium will be the biggest memory of the world cup for sure

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"Exclusive: Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players US$ 7.4 million to lose the opening match (1-0 second half)," strategic political affairs expert Amjad Taha via Twitter @MailSport quoted from Hindustan Times, Saturday (19/11) .

This very horrendous gossip was first spread starting from their statement, Qatar has lost in the ceremony match and I think we can forget about this issue, even though this rumor will go down in world cup history

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Quote from: Yogee on November 21, 2022, 01:39:59 PM

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Ecuador - 2
Qatar - 0

I guess that tells us that the rumors of bribing were just meant to discredit the host and event unless they suddenly start scoring 3 goals in 10 to 15 minutes. It's really hard to think any country would allow themselves to be tainted on the most prestigious tournament in the world.

their scores do not really prove anything. As I said before a proper investigation should be done because despite Qatar losing in the opening match there is still a chance that the players of Ecuador were tried to be bribed and are telling the truth and if found that they are telling the truth appropriate actions should be done. but if they are found to be lying they should be found accountable for possible damages that were done because of the rumor.

The score indicates they're not throwin away a game.

It's the World Cup and not some unknown league or competition. They cannot throw a game that easily and not be suspected. Each participating country knows and understands the severity of the punishment for match fixing or bribing so it makes no sense for Qatar to make such offer and face a huge penalty after spending so much for hosting the event.

Qatar bribed the the 8 players and lost the match - who is spreading all these rumors?
There are so many controversies and there are so much going on in the stadium will be the biggest memory of the world cup for sure

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Quote from: acroman08 on November 20, 2022, 02:24:39 PM

Quote from: Yogee on November 20, 2022, 12:50:23 PM

Ecuador - 2
Qatar - 0

I guess that tells us that the rumors of bribing were just meant to discredit the host and event unless they suddenly start scoring 3 goals in 10 to 15 minutes. It's really hard to think any country would allow themselves to be tainted on the most prestigious tournament in the world.

their scores do not really prove anything. As I said before a proper investigation should be done because despite Qatar losing in the opening match there is still a chance that the players of Ecuador were tried to be bribed and are telling the truth and if found that they are telling the truth appropriate actions should be done. but if they are found to be lying they should be found accountable for possible damages that were done because of the rumor.

The score indicates they're not throwin away a game.

It's the World Cup and not some unknown league or competition. They cannot throw a game that easily and not be suspected. Each participating country knows and understands the severity of the punishment for match fixing or bribing so it makes no sense for Qatar to make such offer and face a huge penalty after spending so much for hosting the event.

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Quote from: Awaklara on November 21, 2022, 12:48:34 PM

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On the other hand, maybe if Qatar had won the match, then many would have believed this rumor including myself, then maybe the authorities would have stepped in to investigate the matter, and make sure that Qatar's win is justified.

yes, if Qatar wins, of course many will believe the rumors. It was not difficult for Qatar to bribe Ecuador players. but now we know the truth.
maybe this is also because of the public's view of paid supporters in stadiums which has recently gone viral on social media. so the media develop rumors that have no proof. I think there will be more rumors in this world cup. many media develop fake news only for their profit.

So where are those people who were spreading fake news about the bribe in the opening match?
Also, those who were saying that Qatar bribed Ecuador, what do that they have to say about this now? They must be feeling ashamed telling fake news and trying to bring bad names to the host team.
It's better for Qatar to lose the match rather than to win it through the bribe.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on November 21, 2022, 12:35:29 PM

On the other hand, maybe if Qatar had won the match, then many would have believed this rumor including myself, then maybe the authorities would have stepped in to investigate the matter, and make sure that Qatar's win is justified.

yes, if Qatar wins, of course many will believe the rumors. It was not difficult for Qatar to bribe Ecuador players. but now we know the truth.
maybe this is also because of the public's view of paid supporters in stadiums which has recently gone viral on social media. so the media develop rumors that have no proof. I think there will be more rumors in this world cup. many media develop fake news only for their profit.

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Quote from: BobK71 on November 21, 2022, 12:05:58 PM

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Quote from: Mate2237 on November 20, 2022, 05:13:04 PM

@acroman08 you can't judge them from a far. As you can see it from your TV if you are not in the stadium, there was nothing like bribery game on the pitch. Qatar has weak players and Ecuador has a strong team. So. I didn't see anything like as the op in the match.

I am not saying that there was or that there is, I am simply saying that an investigation should be done and prove whether it was just a rumor or not. besides, if they find out if the rumor is proven not to be true it could remove the bad image the Qatar team has received because of it.

I think there is no significant role in running behind such rumors. Because anyone can spread rumors. If someone can directly say that this is true then Qatar will take its legal measures otherwise no one will chase after an unknown or fake event. In this case it can only be considered as rumor and the game already finished so it would be nothing.

With Qatar loosing 2:0 to Ecuador, it is already justified that this claim was nothing but a rumor, there is no way Qatar must have bribed Ecuador to allow them win the match and they will still loose, by now, the news of their disagreement would have spread all over the globe.
So this claim that Qatar bribed Ecuador, to me, is just one of such fake news spread by some individuals who do not have anything meaningful to contribute to the ongoing world cup match.

On the other hand, maybe if Qatar had won the match, then many would have believed this rumor including myself, then maybe the authorities would have stepped in to investigate the matter, and make sure that Qatar's win is justified.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on November 18, 2022, 11:38:36 AM

It's one of those hot news, and you can find in almost all the Newspapers.

It looks like Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players for $7.4 millions to lose the wold cup opener. And this isn't weird to me, i mean if they already pay a shit ton of money to have the world cup in their country then we can expect from this world cup to be the most corrupt event in the Soccer history.

Some sources:
https://sportsbrief.com/football/28069-reports-qatar-bribed-ecuadorian-players-74-million-lose-opener/
https://www.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/11/18/6376cfc7ca4741cc208b4573.html

Right now odds pays x3.26 if Qatar win, i know is a risky bet but i'm almost sure they will win. Will you place bets on this game after knowing about the bribe?

Wait, so if Qatar bribed players, should not they be held accountable for game fixing? Isn't this also a conclusive reason in order to prevent any hosting of world cup on their country as well? With this kind of shady tactics, who knows what they also engaged in the past or in the future with the money that they have.

This is just disgusting in all levels- bribing players to intentionally lose in a world cup opener. They are actually belittling the sport and making this a money-grab industry where you can actually buy people.

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Quote from: acroman08 on November 21, 2022, 06:43:21 AM

Quote from: Mate2237 on November 20, 2022, 05:13:04 PM

@acroman08 you can't judge them from a far. As you can see it from your TV if you are not in the stadium, there was nothing like bribery game on the pitch. Qatar has weak players and Ecuador has a strong team. So. I didn't see anything like as the op in the match.

I am not saying that there was or that there is, I am simply saying that an investigation should be done and prove whether it was just a rumor or not. besides, if they find out if the rumor is proven not to be true it could remove the bad image the Qatar team has received because of it.

I think there is no significant role in running behind such rumors. Because anyone can spread rumors. If someone can directly say that this is true then Qatar will take its legal measures otherwise no one will chase after an unknown or fake event. In this case it can only be considered as rumor and the game already finished so it would be nothing.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on November 20, 2022, 05:13:04 PM

@acroman08 you can't judge them from a far. As you can see it from your TV if you are not in the stadium, there was nothing like bribery game on the pitch. Qatar has weak players and Ecuador has a strong team. So. I didn't see anything like as the op in the match.

I am not saying that there was or that there is, I am simply saying that an investigation should be done and prove whether it was just a rumor or not. besides, if they find out if the rumor is proven not to be true it could remove the bad image the Qatar team has received because of it.

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Quote from: piebeyb on November 20, 2022, 08:08:03 AM

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First of all, to win a match you bribe an official, not a player, because unless you manage to bribe the entire team, even 1 suspicious teammate will bring the whole effort down. 1 official is enough. That was such a dumb news.

if they succeed in bribing a number of core teams of course it will also be difficult if Ecuador will not score goals let alone manage to bribe the main striker, I think that also has an effect, but again maybe it's just fake news and as hosts Qatar really plays well, no anyone knows the truth, all will be seen in a few hours when the game starts

Well as they showed, nobody from Ecuador was being bribed, lol. Everyone played to the the maximum even in the first half and got so many chances while preventing even a single movement from Qatar in their own penalty box, much less a shot attempt until injury time in the first half.

Fake news proven, so let's put this matter to rest!!

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Quote from: piebeyb on November 21, 2022, 03:47:58 AM

the people who bet on a draw may have lost last night's bet, but lucky for those who bet for ecuador have won the game, ecuador's win at the same time dispelling the news about bribes circulating everywhere, I think OP needs to lock this thread because the Qatar and Ecuador match is over and it looks like Qatar still needs to increase their confidence as hosts in the world cup at least they can play better against Senegal later Wink

IMO, the match wasn't very interesting, there wasn't much buying and selling of attacks from the two teams. The Qatar squad's defeat had been smelled since the early minutes of the match. they played under high pressure, the result was that the Qatar national team had to bear the shame in front of their own public, they had to surrender to being conquered by Ecuador.

lucky for those who bet for Ecuador, I myself bet for the home team. and yes, we lost. however, the defeat of the home team in this opening game broke the issue of bribery which had become a hot topic of conversation in almost all sports news. at least, what was rumored in fact did not happen at all. and I agree with you, it's a good thing OP locked this thread.

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