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legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
Dear members,

You can all hold your QORA tight, or release Qora for bounties, so the project will grow rapidly.
The chance is much bigger when you donate your QORA, that the price will go up, and so your remaining QORA is profitable Wink

In order for QORA to become huge, we have to pay people who are working on this project.

So please people and WHALES

Donate QORA TO: QLmoXVW6GTLcWVpaiDr5brg9CeiFvTCiJo

Thank you kindly!!! Its for your own and community's good!


In my opinion, you can figure out another way to collect money like another IPO ect, donation don't work for a long-term project.

Another IPO? What do we have to offer?

If the top 25 would offer 10% of their Stakes.. we would have about 400 million or so, we can do a LOT with that amount, pay new members and developments, marketing etc.

The thing is if the whales keep being hard headed, dont participate in development and even don't want to offer 10% or so of their stake, the chance is big, we won't have funds to pay new people and devs and the coin will die and the whales can't do anything at all with their big stakes, so if they are smart and would like to make some profit, they start or either participating, or donating QORA to the community funds so we can pay people...

Make sense right? Wink

SO WHALES, PLEASE DONATE QORA IN ORDER TO THRIVE, PM ME FOR AMOUNTS ABOVE 3 MILLION. THANKS

We can be really happy with members as Vrontis, VBCS, CIYAAM and a few others who are putting a lot of effort in this project from the beginning. And they are not even whales. It's really sad to see all those whales are just waiting and doing nothing till the price will go up and even didnt make payments.  SO ONE MORE TIME, WHALES WAKE UP, DONATE & PARTICIPATE!!!!
member
Activity: 123
Merit: 10
Dear members,

You can all hold your QORA tight, or release Qora for bounties, so the project will grow rapidly.
The chance is much bigger when you donate your QORA, that the price will go up, and so your remaining QORA is profitable Wink

In order for QORA to become huge, we have to pay people who are working on this project.

So please people and WHALES

Donate QORA TO: QLmoXVW6GTLcWVpaiDr5brg9CeiFvTCiJo

Thank you kindly!!! Its for your own and community's good!


In my opinion, you can figure out another way to collect money like another IPO ect, donation don't work for a long-term project.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1024
The ACCT use case is "trustless" between two blockchains that use AT (in the future this will also apply to the CIYAM platform itself which is going to be a new platform).

So in short - yes - you don't need a 3rd party or a website when you can use ACCT (to find the trades might need a little bit of UI work though).


 Thank you so much CIYAM. I am gonna keep searching. I keen to learn about Bitcoin, blockchain and other technologies.
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
The ACCT use case is "trustless" between two blockchains that use AT (in the future this will also apply to the CIYAM platform itself which is going to be a new platform).

So in short - yes - you don't need a 3rd party or a website when you can use ACCT (to find the trades might need a little bit of UI work though).
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1024
I am not a marketing person so maybe someone else would be better to explain things in a "marketing way" if that is what you are wanting.

ACCT allows for the idea of trustless trading between two different blockchains (i.e. no 3rd party like an *exchange* in between).

We have built the use case but as AT is currently only on the one blockchain (Burst) we have yet to actually test it "live". Once we have AT one Qora we can test that live (which will make history).


I am not interested with marketing. I am just interested with your project. I m just trying to learn.

 Why it is trustless trading? Can we fix this project to other coins ? İf you succeed with this project we dont need any exchange am i right?
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
I am not a marketing person so maybe someone else would be better to explain things in a "marketing way" if that is what you are wanting.

ACCT allows for the idea of trustless trading between two different blockchains (i.e. no 3rd party like an *exchange* in between).

We have built the use case but as AT is currently only on the one blockchain (Burst) we have yet to actually test it "live". Once we have AT one Qora we can test that live (which will make history).
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1024
The account would be determined as a hash of the actual machine code for the AT (which might also take into account the account of the creator and perhaps some other metadata such as its description, etc. to ensure there should be very little chance that your AT create tx fails due to an existing AT with the same account id).

All initial data for an AT is part of the AT creation tx (so is of course stored in the blockchain) but subsequent state data does not need to be sent around nor stored in the blockchain (just the hash of it does).

AT is actually an extremely "lean and mean" design (and IMO the most efficient Turing complete solution on offer).


Hi CIYAM, i want to translate your works about AT and ACCT in Turkish. But not technically. i just want to explain what is ACCT and AT. and what they do, what they enables... i read your use case:ACCT but it s so technical. Could you tell me basically what is theese things?

 i interested about that cross chain transfer and i believe this project will be enabled us decentralized exchanges. Just give me a little knowledge or any document. i just want to learn and spread your project. i am not a programmer. i am just a bitcoin and blockchain lover.

Thank you.

Sincerely.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
Dear members,

You can all hold your QORA tight, or release Qora for bounties, so the project will grow rapidly.
The chance is much bigger when you donate your QORA, that the price will go up, and so your remaining QORA is profitable Wink

In order for QORA to become huge, we have to pay people who are working on this project.

So please people and WHALES

Donate QORA TO: QLmoXVW6GTLcWVpaiDr5brg9CeiFvTCiJo

Thank you kindly!!! Its for your own and community's good!
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
Please everybody, retweet our last tweet!!! All marketing is usefull

https://twitter.com/qoracoin
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
By the way, Vrontis, speaking of web-based wallet for Qora, I believe ASIC-8Tile had a working web wallet for Qora a long time ago.  It was fully working with nice-looking interface.

Indeed, ASIC-8Tile has worked in the past on a web-based wallet



Post link

And here are the details about it

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It will be a local machine installation.
From what I am hearing, not all people like "Deterministic Wallets".
I do. Because of the following...
http://www.coindesk.com/eavesdropping-attack-can-unmask-60-bitcoin-clients/

I am using .html/.js for the front end.
.php to glue the Qora.jar with the JSON api calls
Packaged using PHP Desktop (reduces memory leaks)
https://code.google.com/p/phpdesktop/
and installer for Windows 32/64

The webserver is mongoose for now.
There is a SQLite database that could be used to extend the existing functionality.


I'll send a PM to ASIC-8Tile


Would be great if Asic can continu his work. We can give a bountie for this, please tell him in the PM Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
The names of technologies (such as "blockchain" which has become the main name for Satoshi's core idea) are generally never that "cool" because they are typically created by developers and not marketing people.

When we have further extended the work on the toolset perhaps some marketing types will come up with a "cool name" for that and we can use that more in PR material but while we are still in these initial stages (and have no real funds for marketing) it is probably best to stick with the generic "Smart Contract" term with a brief mention that the technology to provide the implementation is the AT creation by CIYAM Developers).
full member
Activity: 229
Merit: 101

This is our main focus for now - improving AT (there is now both an assembler and a debugger) and getting ACCT to work across two blockchains.


Hi Ian,

I think one of the reasons people might overlook AT is that it has such a generic name that does not really inspire imagination, thus lack the cool factor.   Grin;D  Do you think you might consider renaming it or use an acronym like "Cognitive Processing System" (CPS) instead of simply calling it Automated Transaction?  Smiley

I suppose we can call the core engine "Cognitive Processing Unit" (CPU.. haha) and the application "Cognitive Processing Instruction" (CPI)...  I don't know. I'm pretty sure someone else can come up with a better name.

Also, I think most people don't realize AT's full potentials.  We should probably start marketing it as the best solution for two of biggest cryptocurrency's problems - anonymity & decentralized trading.  Smiley

Just wanna throw the idea out there.  Wink

GL!

sr. member
Activity: 351
Merit: 250
By the way, Vrontis, speaking of web-based wallet for Qora, I believe ASIC-8Tile had a working web wallet for Qora a long time ago.  It was fully working with nice-looking interface.

Indeed, ASIC-8Tile has worked in the past on a web-based wallet



Post link

And here are the details about it

Quote
It will be a local machine installation.
From what I am hearing, not all people like "Deterministic Wallets".
I do. Because of the following...
http://www.coindesk.com/eavesdropping-attack-can-unmask-60-bitcoin-clients/

I am using .html/.js for the front end.
.php to glue the Qora.jar with the JSON api calls
Packaged using PHP Desktop (reduces memory leaks)
https://code.google.com/p/phpdesktop/
and installer for Windows 32/64

The webserver is mongoose for now.
There is a SQLite database that could be used to extend the existing functionality.


I'll send a PM to ASIC-8Tile
full member
Activity: 229
Merit: 101
Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer means that i can transfer my bitcoins to qora or burst or another altcoins blockchain? it means ACCT can be used like an p2p exchange ? am i wrong?

ACCT (Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer) between AT-enabled coins (right now only Burst and Qora) will become the basis for a full-fledged decentralized p2p exchange in the future.

What Ian (CIYAM) is trying to do is to first get a Bitcoin-based coin to adopt AT and incorporate AT engine into its core.  Smiley

Once we can show that we have a viable and working solution, bigger coins like Doge or LiteCoin (or even Bitcoin) might decide to adopt AT as well.

One advantage of AT over competing technologies (such as MGW or Jame's SuperNet) is that it's fully open-sourced and Devs simply need to take existing solutions (ie. for Nxt-clones/Bitcoin-clones) and incorporate AT into their cores, and voila!  They're now part of AT's ATOMIC trading network.

Another way to think of CIYAM's AT is that... it's like your obedient robotic servant who is up 24/7, and he does everything you tell him to.  Smiley Any developer can write AT-based application and upload it to the blockchain.  So if you think about it, the possibilities are truly endless!  For instance, CIYAM's AT is in a position to solve two of the biggest problems Cryptocurrency faces -- Anonymity and decentralized trading.  As you can see from our discussion above, anonymity will be solved via mixing, and decentralized trading will be solved via ACCT.

Read up on CIYAM's AT page for more possible use cases and information.  Smiley
full member
Activity: 229
Merit: 101

About the wallet and the graphical user interface, Qora told me that he was wanted the wallet's design to follow these rules



Also, about the wallet.
I am working on how we will have an HTML based wallet.It will be achieved by making API calls, it will be based on node.js and the design rules that Qora preferred will be followed.
So far I have managed to create a standalone cross platform application based on node.js and follows those design rules...I need to get now deep into the API to make this app an actual wallet.

Last.. another leak of what Qora was planning about the wallet.



Thank you so much for sharing this!!  I see that qora dev did left us a lot of valuable insights and let us know the direction where he wished to go.

By the way, Vrontis, speaking of web-based wallet for Qora, I believe ASIC-8Tile had a working web wallet for Qora a long time ago.  It was fully working with nice-looking interface.

You should ask him for a copy.
legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 1000
Reality is stranger than fiction
Thank you Vrontis for sharing this, and for the clarifications.

 Cool
sr. member
Activity: 351
Merit: 250
Speaking of GUI, I asked Qora Dev a question concerning GUI a long time ago (when we had weekly 'features' votes... One of the things was "Wallet Upgrades")... He told me GUI would eventually go OS.  But looks like he forgot to OS certain things before he left..

Quote from: calvinstm
Hi Qora Dev,

I have an idea for the wallet upgrade option today.  I was thinking, what if we have a custom plugins and skin/theme system for Qora wallet?  Grin So 3rd party developer can create different plugins to expand the features of Qora wallet (and artists can create custom themes).  To accomplish that, I'm thinking you will probably need a scripting engine (maybe based on Lua).  Wink

For instance, there is a folder called "Plugins" and another folder called "Theme" inside wallet folder.  At the startup, the wallet will load all the plugins and skin/theme inside those folders.

Do you think it's something that can be added to the Wallet Upgrade option in voting list?  Cheesy  If you don't like my idea, just ignore it. No worries.  Wink

Another thing, could you tell me how much time (approximate) is needed to do wallet upgrades? I think it should take no more 1 week. Am I wrong in assuming this?

Thank you!

PS: You're the best!

This could be done easily when the GUI is opensource.
It already uses a system to change to the OS theme.


About the wallet and the graphical user interface, Qora told me that he was wanted the wallet's design to follow these rules



Also, about the wallet.
I am working on how we will have an HTML based wallet.It will be achieved by making API calls, it will be based on node.js and the design rules that Qora preferred will be followed.
So far I have managed to create a standalone cross platform application based on node.js and follows those design rules...I need to get now deep into the API to make this app an actual wallet.

Last.. another leak of what Qora was planning about the wallet.

sr. member
Activity: 351
Merit: 250

If this is achieved then AT would end up being the "standard" method to do such ACCT transfers and a marketplace could evolve in each supporting blockchain.



Wow!! Very encouraging news! It'd certainly be awesome to see AT becomes the de facto standard for ACCT transfers!

Do we have a candidate already?  Smiley  It will be a major win for AT system if we can convince one of the two big guys (Litecoin or Dodgecoin) to incorporate AT into its core and serve as base currency in the AT system. Grin Grin

But before that can happen, I'm sure we need to get a smaller coin onboard first (to show that we have a viable and stable working system).

Happy with the direction AT is going!  Grin Grin Glad to have you here, CIYAM!

Here is a 20 BTC bounty for this!
Spread it, may someone finds it interesting  Wink
sr. member
Activity: 351
Merit: 250
Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer means that i can transfer my bitcoins to qora or burst or another altcoins blockchain? it means ACCT can be used like an p2p exchange ? am i wrong?

ACCT does not mean that you can move your Qora coin into your burst wallet.
It means that you can trade your Qora coins for Burst coins (selling your Qora to buy Burst) in a 100% decentralized way.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1024
 Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer means that i can transfer my bitcoins to qora or burst or another altcoins blockchain? it means ACCT can be used like an p2p exchange ? am i wrong?
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