Topic: Quickseller vs Legendster (Read 3794 times)

Locking time !!

PS : I hate Hari puttar, I am more a smeagol-lord kinda guy..

Yes Master.

lol in that case I have been involved with Bitcoins since 2011.

What if he adopted Bitcoin before you but didn't wanna join in this/old forum? What if he was here earlier than you and he started his business with new account? What if he forgotten the password of his account and started a new one? There are many possibilities that proove this statement is false. AFAIK in this forum, join date doesn't make you or him or anyone else senior, it's their works.

   -MZ

Does this mean that everyone that joined after October 31, 2013 is officially my bitch? 

Madison square garden then ? Everyone pays for their ticket.

And yes I do consider him beneath me and unworthy of my time, for me, I came into the bitcoin worl before him, that makes me a senior he came after wards he's a junior end of story. I hope that answers all your questions. If Jam is jam and this forum is this forum then he should have not meddled with my business in jam and leave it there.

  Have a charity boxing match to settle it and put it online
  You both owe me 10 minutes of my time for reading all of your petty bickering.
  I'll never get those minutes back.
 

Ill just leave my few cents here even though I know they will probably be wasted.


You censoring the swear words does not change that you appear hostile.


Jam is Jam and bitcointalk is bitcointalk. In my personal expierence reputation on Jam does not mean much. The way BTCJam works is that you essentially have to make and fill loans you do not need in order to build a reputation before you can get reasonable rates for a loan. This "rep building" as its openly called on BTCJam is frowned upon here. Maybe not by all users of bitcointalk, but at least by some. On Jam however its normal.


The rating is just an opinion and Quickseller is free to use this tool as a warning for others. You still appear green for the other ratings you received.


How is this related?


Age is no reason for reputation, it comes with time and time passes for all of us. Your behaviour durring the passing of time is what makes you reputable. Your reputation was damaged[1] in the past and from what I read in this thread you have not changed. You are reacting to criticism of your project as if you as a person was attacked. Never a good sign IMHO.


I suspect you deleted that post in your lending thread[2] as I cant seem to find it.


If you want it to be public, dont make it public? I am not sure I can follow you here. It was your decision, this is your thread.


Edit: Another note. Your first post is full of words that suggests that Quickseller is beneath you or unworthy in some way. This is not what I would call calm or reasonable.



[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/buyingselling-exotic-cars-through-broker-195234
[2] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/legendster-offering-loans-to-everyone-collateral-required-953547

Quicky buddy shut the ___ up! Seriously, blow your steam elsewhere.
I have a trusted profile on JAM and based on JAM rules I have made a listing, I have similarly posted a thread here to funnel a few investors from here to the jam listing.
But face it, you didnt give a crap about it, your only problem was "I deleted your comment on my self regulated thread and implemented a new rule to keep you away" your negative rating on my trust score didnt even show up until it was ME WHO POINTED IT OUT THAT I DELETED YOUR COMMENT AND IMPLEMENTED A MANDATORY ESCROW RULE ON MY THREAD. You were so enraged at that point that you just had to do something to make yourself feel superior which you did by acting on your idiocy & choosing to post a negative on my trust score but when you realized that I had actually made the escrow rule long before you even made that rating you quickly changed it to my Jam listing. WHICH IS BONKERS ! I have a trusted profile there and I INVEST IN PEOPLE's LOAN REQUESTS!

If you really had the balls, go mess with Swisswatcher's profile, I dare you boy lol Personal attacks aside, get this fact straight, I have been here before you even heard of Bitcoins and I have been busting scams before you learned how to zip your pants.

I cant control what you do, I can only control what I do and only time will tell who ends up fulfilling his goals.
- Me funding my business ideas through JAM / this forum / or people actually taking you seriously.

Till then do your job of being my lending thread's escrow and EARN that 1% service charge you are going to charge from me.

-edit- You had the fudging audacity to come to my thread and warn MY borrowers that I would run away with the collateral for their loans ? Are you ____ serious ? If I give out no collateral loans THEN you have problem, if I take collateral for loans THEN you have peroblem !! I am the one investing and you had the fudging nerve to say that I would run away with that collateral ? who will pay me if the borrower fails to return ?? your dad ? who the F--- DO YOU THINK YOU ARE CUZ WHOEVER YOU MIGHT BE I DONT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT IT, GET IT ?? NO ?? READ THAT AGAIN!

And give your conspiracy theory a rest, you doubted me, you reported me, I didnt like that I sent you a private message and then took it public. Leave it at that and bugger off. This thread doesnt require your participation.
If I had to scam anyone or if that was my intention I could have run away with the $1000 + I received during my cumulative trade history, and had a new account by now. Get this through your skull, Johnie (another idiot I hate on this forum) had his theories about me and he is way more trusted than you are, hell even I trusted his report before my fallout with him; but if his report since 2013 hasnt stopped me then WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ?

I have pretty much remained calm through out this situation but enough is enough and I had to let some temper fly here, no hard feelings.



Law my ass, I poop out kids like this guy every morning.

I have no desire nor need to be known as anything. I wish to prevent others from being wronged and/or taken advantage of. I think that I have an open mind when it comes to deciding if someone is a scammer or not.

I also would say that I have the ability to think for myself and draw my own conclusions (e.g. do not engage in group think), one example of this is how many times I had gone back and forth about if I think that WC is in fact a scammer (please no WC drama). This does not mean that my opinion is not the same as what a "mob" thinks, it only means that I have the ability to independently draw my own conclusions based on the analysis of evidence that I find credible. 

I honestly had never heard of you prior to your dispute with Armis, therefore it would have been impossible for me to have respect for you without knowing about you. I don't think that being in the default trust network is something that is earned nor is it a privilege, I would view it more as a responsibility. I am sure that you dislike the decision to have been removed from the default trust network and you have every right to have that opinion. There does however come a time when it is appropriate to stop disputing such decision. Everyone has their right to freedom of speech however when they use that right to look like an idiot (in similar ways the OP is doing, and somewhat how Armis did) then their respect will be lost by others. My advice is to let it go, learn from your mistake and continue to constructively participate in the community and you will potentially be added back into the default trust network. 
Scamming is not against the rules, nor is attempting to scam. I think that deleting a post saying that escrow must be used in a self moderated thread is a scammy thing to do, I also think a reasonable person would find his specific loan request to be scammy. One respected person has said that he has lent money to people on here without collateral, however would not lend to the OP, I do not know his specific financial situation however I believe him to have enough money/bitcoin to be able to fill the loan in it's entirety. One other respected person has said that he has lent similar amounts to someone in the past and agreed that successful deals of similar size are very rare. I am more confident that he has sufficient amounts of money to fill the entire loan based on his trading history, however based on the fact the loan is still unfilled on BTCjam he has not.

I am not familiar with your personal financial situation, however lets say for arguments sake that you have more then 60 BTC to lend. Would you lend 60 BTC to the OP with no collateral based on his current description of what the loan is for? Why or why not?

... and you are starting to look a lot like VOD. I thought you had some common sense, but it is clear now you are only here to exercise your obsessive compulsive tendencies and your perverse desire for perceived authority and control. You just bounce from one inquisition to the next in your single minded attempt to be known as a "scambuster". This so called "lot" of people who have "lost respect" for me never respected me to begin with. If not accepting group think and mob rule means I lost your respect, then I don't want anything to do with you anyway.

Everyone is telling you Legendster didn't break any rules, but it doesn't matter, because you are the law right?

By all means do that. Infact suggest you print it put it on a plaque and wake up everyday and stare at it.

I am quoting this in case you decide to delete it later.

 /thread

Who I choose to complain about is solely dependent on me and I will not look for your permission or anyone's permission for that matter.

My thread, my rules, dont like em ? Go somewhere else !

I am offering to buy / sell through escrow so I dont see a point of debate there and hence will NOT WELCOME ANY IDIOTIC COMMENTS ABOUT IT.

From your currency exchange thread:
From the looks of it, you are less then welcoming for people to criticize anything about you. If that criticizes you again are you going to complain about him as well?

That is a sensible suggestion but it wont simplify the matter or change his opinion about me, because the great intellect of Quickseller wouldnt approve of it, apparently he is under the impression that one must for ask his permission before conducting business here or on BTCJAM.

First of all, the level of information you share on Jam is completely depended on you, it is a SUGGESTION that you complete your profile but it is also suggested that you expose only that much information about yourself with which you are comfortable. If you dont like sharing some detail then simply DONT.

Go ahead and take a look at https://btcjam.com/users/5906 https://btcjam.com/users/24910 or https://btcjam.com/users/43278 I am sure you dont even know who these people are but they are successful investors and borrowers on jam who are trusted without a complete profile.

AND THEY HAVE REPAID over 500 BTC !

I am building my rep there AND HERE so that the community can trust me similarly because I do have a couple of business ideas that I want to fund solely through JAM or BCT. People who can TRUST ME.

I am sure you cant trust me and not only people like you have a problem trusting others you have a problem of letting people trust someone else who you dont trust and hence guys like you abuse this trust system, but honestly this abuse has a good side effect on this community, it helps to screen potential scammers and hence it is tolerated but it is also unfair in many ways.. but hey this post isnt about that.

Returning back to point I wont call you an idiot anymore, largely because the way you conduct yourself in messy situations like this, where you are trying to smear a decently trusted guy like me. BUT with that said I will continue to say that what you ARE trying to do is stupid and idiotic.
It is evident that you have free time to kill by all means continue your agenda, but if you were really employed or made money outside this forum 'professionally' then you would understand that it is not a good idea to share your income details online. No matter the context.
If I were applying for a loan on Jam and had my income details shared on their site AND their site got hacked which regularly happens wouldnt my tax paying information be leaked ?
According to me people can use Jam to get the initial funding required by their businesses WITHOUT APPLYING through a bank and thats what I plan to do off course I wouldnt even waste my time explaining this to you, because according to you, you have a very high intellect so you might have trouble figuring out simple stuffs lol

Since this post was made to expose your idiocy to the people here and now that it has served it's purpose you are more than welcome to just not reply here anymore and continue with ... whatever you are trying to pull.

to simplify this matter before more nonsense coming up, maybe bitcoinpuddle can give his adsense account to a reputable owner to check if he really got the paid revenue as stated and other sensitive proof about getting the payment from adsense

I looked through roughly the last 20 pages of your leading thread and was not able to find such a loan request (there was one for 20 BTC to be repaid in 5 years that did give me some lulz along with others, but you did not actually fund this one despite you telling him you did). I did find one post that may indicate who you were potentially lending to although the details were likely intentionally kept private so I will respect the borrowers and your privacy if you are willing to keep the details of the loan secret. The person in question however does have significant trading history with people whose trust reports I trust and does not have any blemishes on his history. I also assume that you were able to verify his income/ability to repay (while the BTCjam loan in question does not have the OP's income verified).

I think you would agree that the vast majority of loan requests of even 2 BTC are scams, let along requests of 60 BTC. Additionally I think if you were to take the time to closely look at the details of his loan request (if you have not done so already) then you would likely consider his request a scam, and would probably make the same conclusion if his request was for 2 BTC.

No. This would be a guaranteed way to lose significant amounts of money.

I am pretty sure you just contradicted yourself when you said you were not going to post here anymore when you made your above comment.

You claim your expenses are 2.1 BTC (per month?) however have provided no such documentation to be as much.

Additionally if you have really earned as much as your screenshot from what you claim to be your Adsense account shows you earned then you should be able to provide either copies of checks you received or copies of bank statements showing deposits from Adsense (as well as for other companies you are advertising for).

You will need to highlight where in the TOS of Adsense that it shows you are not breaking their rules (the same applies for other advertisers you are advertising for).

I never said I am trying to follow in Vod's footsteps. My feedback consists of negative trust against people who I have gathered evidence that they are trying to scam, or when it is clear they are trying to scam.
If you are implying that anyone considering to lend the OP 60 BTC is a fool then you are validating my negative trust against him. The same would be asked about giving loans to newbies without collateral, giving such loans is extremely stupid however it does happen ever once in a blue moon.
If you were to ask for a 50 BTC loan in the future and cannot provide a signed message then you would probably get tagged as a potentially hacked account. If you can produce a signed message after asking for such a large loan then you would likely get questioned. Also, you, unlike the OP do have reputation and have less scammy business proposals then the OP.

However when relying on trust ratings alone then you will have outcomes like this.

Additionally as mentioned above the OP has not submitted any proof of income to BTCjam nor has offered to give proof of income to potential lenders.

You are more then welcome to exclude my trust ratings from you seeing them by default if you think they are a "joke".

Additionally it is interesting to note that you effectively threatened me to ignore your business dealings/offers which in itself is scammy as the reason why such dealings are posted publicly is to allow for others to peer review them and to call out anything that is less then safe and/or fair.

There would be a point after which his 'opinion' in every matter would simply become a joke.