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September 20, 2023, 03:07:56 AM
Gambling is not for the faint of heart and not what you should do with your whole being, you need some principles to be able to gamble and still remain sane. I must also mention that a jobless person should avoid gambling cos you don't always win and when you loose, you should have other clean sources of income to fall back to. Gambling is for fun and recreation and should be seen as such. From your post and assertions, I deduce that you took gambling as a major source of livelihood and a superior attitude, and I think you have a lot of growing up to do. you hate it doesn't mean you should lord your beliefs on people. Its totally wrong as we hold our different views on the topic and you should respect that

I agree with you here: gambling is not what someone should do when they don't have any means of earning; it always has some kind of side effect on time in the aspect of their playing behaviour. When you gamble without having somewhere you earn and make a living from, then you will gamble with everything that you have because your daily feeding will depend on you winning the game in which you are gambling, and when you ose,  remembering that you don't have anything in your house to go back to, you will have to try over and over again, even if it takes you to borrow in order for you to continue playing.
 
But when someone has a paying job and just left over of their spending is being used to gamble, then things will be a little different for the person, as they can still call it a day when they squander the money they have budgeted for that day. Aside from the paying job part, one also has to be a good decision-maker and to stand by their decision in order for them not to play with more than they have budgeted.
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September 20, 2023, 02:54:10 AM
The most dangerous parts from gambling is some people think it can be a main source of income and chasing our loss is not hard (in theory).
Most of the gamblers able to stop because they dont have any more money, cant get any loan to gamble etc.

Gamble for fun and gamble with the money you can afford to lose aka not using somebody else money or the money from a loan, as simple as that.
That is true, but many people continue to use gambling as their main source of income, making it difficult for them to find other sources of income. They also have the possibility of becoming addicted to gambling because making gambling a source of income will trigger them to gamble more often. Of course, they can also experience losses more often. If they cannot stop immediately before they develop a gambling addiction, they will not encounter problems that could endanger their lives. But if not, they must be prepared to encounter those problems, which might also ruin their life. So if they already have the desire to stop gambling, they should immediately make it happen before it's too late and it's better to look for other, more promising sources of income.
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September 20, 2023, 01:56:28 AM

Gamble for fun and dont go overexert yourself because if you do make yourself that too impulsive then it would really be ending up on a disaster. This is why you should really be
that careful on not to make yourself that get addicted.
This is the wisest and most correct advice for all players who are interested in gambling. 

However, not all players listen to such wise advice and we all often know about the tragedy in some families, when one of the members of sach g family becomes a sick person, becomes addicted to gambling, a real gambler, which is very similar to drug addiction.  I would also note the fact that occurs in life, this is the inability of some player to simply determine for himself the limit of loss when he really begins to turn into a gambling addict. 
And even the urgent demands of his relatives, who have already clearly understood that he is becoming sick, to stop playing, are ignored by such a player.  He still thinks that he will get lucky, win a lot of money and become happy and rich.  Unfortunately , such thoughts visit his brain quite often and persistently. 
But this is how the life of individual gamblers works, who, as they say, are too gambling and do not know the measures and do not follow the basic safety rules in these games.
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September 19, 2023, 10:11:12 PM
The most dangerous parts from gambling is some people think it can be a main source of income and chasing our loss is not hard (in theory).
Most of the gamblers able to stop because they dont have any more money, cant get any loan to gamble etc.

Gamble for fun and gamble with the money you can afford to lose aka not using somebody else money or the money from a loan, as simple as that.
I think I agree with you that some people, I will say, not smart enough people, may actually think that gambling can be a source of permanent income. 
This conviction may especially arise among overly impressionable people   w ho have seen enough Hollywood blockbusters about super players who have won so much that they are bathed in luxury and simply do not know what to do with the money from their winnings.  Sometimes newspapers and the Internet also write about such professional players, for example, when playing poker.  Of course, this also happens in life, but it is so rare that an ordinary person, without any special abilities, will never achieve such winnings.  And often it seems to me that such films and messages are just hidden advertising for the entire casino industry.  But such naive people still exist and then all their games end in losses.  And it’s good if they lose a little, or, as they say, they lose as much as they can afford. 
but some sometimes turn into complete bankrupts and are forced to look for a real job for a regular salary.
Too delusional kind of people who do really believe that gambling could really be a source of income and we know that it isnt really that able to fit on that criteria since we know that gambling is really just that for entertainment but people do really becomes that too desperate on trying out to achieve on what they do have in mind which is really that very wrong. You would really be finding yourself in great trouble on the time that you would be pursuing that kind of target towards gambling. You would really be that ending up on being devastated because gambling is really that bound to lose. House do always win at the end
and we know that gambling is really just that for fun and winning isnt guaranteed and luck isnt really that in our side most of the times.

Gamble for fun and dont go overexert yourself because if you do make yourself that too impulsive then it would really be ending up on a disaster. This is why you should really be
that careful on not to make yourself that get addicted.
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September 19, 2023, 06:53:01 PM
Gambling is not for the faint of heart and not what you should do with your whole being, you need some principles to be able to gamble and still remain sane.
You may be right about lacking the courage but that's not what it is. Gambling is not for people who are not mature enough to understand the concept of the game and control their buzz.
3 weeks ago I gambled alot, and made a huge profit, next made less profit, and last week I made a huge loss. If I don't understand the game concept I will continue playing when I need to stop for some time until when I am lucky again.
You've taken a break in between. Not everyone have the right understanding about gambling. The focus will be much into money making and they never want to lose. We should keep ourselves prepared to experience anything.
Yes, you're right and the best way to keep ourselves prepared for whatever happens is to follow the golden rules about how to gamble successfully, how to control buzz, and how to maturely accept the concept behind what I mentioned.

If we don't have mind then gambling is not for us. Once after losing, gamblers intend to spend beyond their limit to recover the lost fund. As said it is possible to stay away from gambling, if a person have got the control over him and know his limits.
Honestly, gambling is not for everyone who's mature enough to get control over themselves.
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September 19, 2023, 02:45:59 AM
The most dangerous parts from gambling is some people think it can be a main source of income and chasing our loss is not hard (in theory).
Most of the gamblers able to stop because they dont have any more money, cant get any loan to gamble etc.

Gamble for fun and gamble with the money you can afford to lose aka not using somebody else money or the money from a loan, as simple as that.
I think I agree with you that some people, I will say, not smart enough people, may actually think that gambling can be a source of permanent income. 
This conviction may especially arise among overly impressionable people   w ho have seen enough Hollywood blockbusters about super players who have won so much that they are bathed in luxury and simply do not know what to do with the money from their winnings.  Sometimes newspapers and the Internet also write about such professional players, for example, when playing poker.  Of course, this also happens in life, but it is so rare that an ordinary person, without any special abilities, will never achieve such winnings.  And often it seems to me that such films and messages are just hidden advertising for the entire casino industry.  But such naive people still exist and then all their games end in losses.  And it’s good if they lose a little, or, as they say, they lose as much as they can afford. 
but some sometimes turn into complete bankrupts and are forced to look for a real job for a regular salary.
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September 18, 2023, 09:43:36 PM
The most dangerous parts from gambling is some people think it can be a main source of income and chasing our loss is not hard (in theory).
Most of the gamblers able to stop because they dont have any more money, cant get any loan to gamble etc.

Gamble for fun and gamble with the money you can afford to lose aka not using somebody else money or the money from a loan, as simple as that.
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September 18, 2023, 06:00:00 PM
Gambling is not for the faint of heart and not what you should do with your whole being, you need some principles to be able to gamble and still remain sane.
You may be right about lacking the courage but that's not what it is. Gambling is not for people who are not mature enough to understand the concept of the game and control their buzz.
3 weeks ago I gambled alot, and made a huge profit, next made less profit, and last week I made a huge loss. If I don't understand the game concept I will continue playing when I need to stop for some time until when I am lucky again.
You've taken a break in between. Not everyone have the right understanding about gambling. The focus will be much into money making and they never want to lose. We should keep ourselves prepared to experience anything. If we don't have mind then gambling is not for us. Once after losing, gamblers intend to spend beyond their limit to recover the lost fund. As said it is possible to stay away from gambling, if a person have got the control over him and know his limits.
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September 18, 2023, 05:43:13 PM
Gambling is not for the faint of heart and not what you should do with your whole being, you need some principles to be able to gamble and still remain sane.
You may be right about lacking the courage but that's not what it is. Gambling is not for people who are not mature enough to understand the concept of the game and control their buzz.
3 weeks ago I gambled alot, and made a huge profit, next made less profit, and last week I made a huge loss. If I don't understand the game concept I will continue playing when I need to stop for some time until when I am lucky again.
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September 18, 2023, 03:09:59 PM
Gambling is not for the faint of heart and not what you should do with your whole being, you need some principles to be able to gamble and still remain sane. I must also mention that a jobless person should avoid gambling cos you don't always win and when you loose, you should have other clean sources of income to fall back to. Gambling is for fun and recreation and should be seen as such. From your post and assertions, I deduce that you took gambling as a major source of livelihood and a superior attitude, and I think you have a lot of growing up to do. you hate it doesn't mean you should lord your beliefs on people. Its totally wrong as we hold our different views on the topic and you should respect that
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September 18, 2023, 05:21:05 AM
The only thing that makes someone quit their addiction is that someone no longer has anything, in this case, money, property, or even work, and this applies to all addictions.

That is not quitting gambling addiction, because immediately that the person gets access to funds, he or she will still fall back into gambling. After all, they haven't decided to quit. if you find yourself in this condition, the only thing that can get you out is when you decide to quit and disassociate or stay away from anything related to gambling activities like stop visiting gambling shops and sites, possibly staying away from friends who also indulge in gambling and even moving away from the environment if that environment contributed to you being addicted to gambling.
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September 18, 2023, 04:48:56 AM
Well that's better and indeed everyone (gamblers) should also have this mindset my friend, where he should think that gambling is nothing more than an activity for fun and as a reward they will get a win if they are lucky. And with this kind of mindset I don't think they will suffer or get any pressure there because they themselves have accepted that this is just for fun, that's right, just think of the money they lose as payment for the fun they get there, it will be better than you keep thinking about losing and want to keep playing for victory to restore the defeat in the previous time, obviously that is very wrong.

Maybe those who think that gambling can be a place to earn income are only for those who are addicted and their brains are disturbed. let's discuss, how can you earn even consistently from a place that only relies on luck? obviously that is very silly, I don't understand what happened to you to think that way. You have to quickly change that mindset if you don't want to fall into a slump and lose all your assets. Don't overdo it, it will only add to the problem, so I think it's better from now on to change your mindset, it's just a matter of luck guys, nothing more than that.
So, you think gambling is all fun and games until it's not? Couldn't agree more. Anyone who believes gambling is a guaranteed source of income is either lying or needs a serious wake-up call. I've rubbed shoulders with many seasoned gamblers, and let me tell you, even the so-called 'professionals' face major downswings. Thinking you can game the system is just... absurd. You want consistent income? Get a job or invest wisely. Casinos aren't your golden goose; they're a playground. And if you're playing with more than you can afford to lose, then guess what? The joke's on you. So, while I admire your optimism, always remember that gambling is an entertainment venue, not an ATM

Yes, I think it's very clear that gambling is fun because it involves money, so a lot of people come with different intentions, but I'm not saying that you're having fun to get money, but just to enjoy the sensation that is there, and I hope you can limit yourself not to be there for too long and also you have to have a normal awareness, nothing more than that. As we know there are so many victims of gambling, they are very comfortable being there but do not think about how much money they have lost in search of one or two lucky wins.

That's right guys, anyone who believes that gambling can be used as a place to make a living then obviously the chances of downfall will be greater for them, you must immediately change your mindset. And yes it's true, sometimes there like some who believe that a professional is those who can always get a big win or consistently, honestly it's hard to digest those words for a normal mind. You have proven from one of your acquaintances who can be called a professional and of course whoever it is whether a beginner or an experienced one it has absolutely no effect, as you said if there is no luck then still they will also lose just like everyone else, so don't be too much by relying on uncertain expectations, just look at those who are already professionals can't escape defeat, and really this is nothing more than a playground.

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September 17, 2023, 06:10:38 PM
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It is key to avoid any form of addiction at all costs, because once you are there the effort and determination needed to leave it behind is astronomical, however I really think that people underestimate how damaging an addiction can be and it is because of this they do not take the necessary steps to avoid it, and once they realize the truth there is nothing they can do but to try to improve the old-fashioned way, and unfortunately there are many people that fail on this goal and will keep their addiction for the rest of their lives.

Right, we agree on this. It is very important to avoid any form of addiction at all costs. But in reality, this will involve all aspects of our lives. There are many addictions and causes, and not just gambling or things related to narcotics. In most cases it all starts from habit, and the habits we do become excessive and ultimately get out of control. as you said, when we realize that we fall into the addiction category, recovering requires effort accompanied by strong intention and determination. that is, if we are able to go through every temptation we face in recovery.

One can avoid any kind of addiction by moderating them.  if we moderate all things, we can find ourselves in control and the possibility of addiction will diminish.  Another term for this is to be responsible enough to take all things in moderation.

The only thing that makes someone quit their addiction is that someone no longer has anything, in this case money, property, even work, and this applies to all addictions. The point is it's not the casino that's the problem, in this case it's gambling. but in ourselves, in most cases we don't have understanding and control over ourselves. in the end, we ourselves suffer. IMO, there is no best method other than ourselves. In essence, we are given intelligence to think and the problem is how we are able to control it. what I say, will not completely stop the addiction. However, it can reduce excessive habits. In fact, we can change our mindset. but all of that, comes back to the gamblers themselves.

Having no money can't make a gambling addict quit his gambling activity.  Remember a gambling addict already lose control over his gambling urge.  This person will do everything he can to get funds even committing a crime just to gamble.  The only thing that make a gambling addict quit is when he got rehabilitated and cured.  This way his control over his urge to gamble will come back.
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September 17, 2023, 04:53:55 PM
The only thing that makes someone quit their addiction is that someone no longer has anything, in this case money, property, even work, and this applies to all addictions. The point is it's not the casino that's the problem, in this case it's gambling. but in ourselves, in most cases we don't have understanding and control over ourselves. in the end, we ourselves suffer. IMO, there is no best method other than ourselves. In essence, we are given intelligence to think and the problem is how we are able to control it. what I say, will not completely stop the addiction. However, it can reduce excessive habits. In fact, we can change our mindset. but all of that, comes back to the gamblers themselves.
There are some cases that doesn't have to be running out of money that will result in stopping gambling. Honestly, I did gamble before but I already stopped gambling at all not because I don't have work, doesn't have money but because I think it's a waste of money and I have something else that entertains me without spending money and that makes my mind occupied in something else that doesn't require you to spend a single cent such as online games or offline games.
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September 17, 2023, 04:40:40 PM
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It is key to avoid any form of addiction at all costs, because once you are there the effort and determination needed to leave it behind is astronomical, however I really think that people underestimate how damaging an addiction can be and it is because of this they do not take the necessary steps to avoid it, and once they realize the truth there is nothing they can do but to try to improve the old-fashioned way, and unfortunately there are many people that fail on this goal and will keep their addiction for the rest of their lives.

Right, we agree on this. It is very important to avoid any form of addiction at all costs. But in reality, this will involve all aspects of our lives. There are many addictions and causes, and not just gambling or things related to narcotics. In most cases it all starts from habit, and the habits we do become excessive and ultimately get out of control. as you said, when we realize that we fall into the addiction category, recovering requires effort accompanied by strong intention and determination. that is, if we are able to go through every temptation we face in recovery.

The only thing that makes someone quit their addiction is that someone no longer has anything, in this case money, property, even work, and this applies to all addictions. The point is it's not the casino that's the problem, in this case it's gambling. but in ourselves, in most cases we don't have understanding and control over ourselves. in the end, we ourselves suffer. IMO, there is no best method other than ourselves. In essence, we are given intelligence to think and the problem is how we are able to control it. what I say, will not completely stop the addiction. However, it can reduce excessive habits. In fact, we can change our mindset. but all of that, comes back to the gamblers themselves.
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September 17, 2023, 04:35:18 PM
It is true that we must be able to take responsibility for all the actions we have taken and this includes the gambling activities we are currently carrying out. And I am quite aware that doing this is very difficult. Gambling can make us forget and blind to everything. Sometimes, when someone is addicted to gambling, it is not uncommon for them to spend all day gambling and continue to make deposits without paying attention to the amount they spend to be able to gamble.
And indeed, if we don't try to overcome the negative impacts of gambling ourselves, then who will? And I am sure that if we have a strong determination to manage our finances and time then we will be able to control the gambling activities we do.
It is key to avoid any form of addiction at all costs, because once you are there the effort and determination needed to leave it behind is astronomical, however I really think that people underestimate how damaging an addiction can be and it is because of this they do not take the necessary steps to avoid it, and once they realize the truth there is nothing they can do but to try to improve the old-fashioned way, and unfortunately there are many people that fail on this goal and will keep their addiction for the rest of their lives.

There's nothing that they can do because addiction already inside them, instead of thinking it over before entering they forget to analyze what are the bad side-effects when you got addicted to gambling, things that can be avoided only if you plan ahead of time and not when you already suffering or already engaging that deep into this activity.

We can't really avoid especially when we are too much busy thinking how we can make money out from this activity.

Most of the time, instead of having some fun, people think that they can easily make money from their gambling participation
and late to realize that they already lose a lot.
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September 17, 2023, 03:48:38 PM
To be honest, I still dont quite understand how there is people around internet even suggesting gambling can be a reliable way to earn money (as a gambler). Gambling is a business and in order for a business to survive, it is supposed to be profitable, if there were a reliable way to gamble and defeat the house, then gambling would not be a business anymore and those big resorts and casinos in Las Vegas won't pay themselves.

Only see gambling as a hobby and if you even find yourself having a good luck streak and pocketing some bucks, then be sure to enjoy them (or part of them) instead gambling it all away.
I agree with you and real evidence that we can see and it is simpler is that no casino has gone bankrupt.
From the understanding you said and the simple words I said, it is very clear that gambling not the right place to make money or double money but is more appropriate to entertain yourself looking for fun with friends or alone to enjoy luck that will come but if you are not lucky consider it just an entertaining game.
The problem with news on the internet is that I also read a lot of article about how to make money from gambling and I think this something ridiculous, whereas gambling business runs to make money, not to give money to gamblers, so gambling will never give big wins from small bets apart from luck, even when we are lucky, we always get problem related to being accused by gambling parties of making mistakes.
so still the casino wins and we will lose and how amusing yourself will be much more fun than misleading yourself from the hope of a big win.
It's quite funny to think some folks out there believe casinos are the way to pad their wallets. Honey, casinos aren't built on winners. If they were, Las Vegas would be a ghost town. The house always win, and the glittering lights and opulent decor? They're funded by pathetic souls like you. As for those "make money from gambling" articles, well, good luck with that. It's almost as if casinos wrote them themselves as bait.  Wink Wink

But hey, dreams are free, right? Keep dreaming, and maybe one day, you'll be the exception (or not).
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September 17, 2023, 02:09:43 PM
It is true that we must be able to take responsibility for all the actions we have taken and this includes the gambling activities we are currently carrying out. And I am quite aware that doing this is very difficult. Gambling can make us forget and blind to everything. Sometimes, when someone is addicted to gambling, it is not uncommon for them to spend all day gambling and continue to make deposits without paying attention to the amount they spend to be able to gamble.
And indeed, if we don't try to overcome the negative impacts of gambling ourselves, then who will? And I am sure that if we have a strong determination to manage our finances and time then we will be able to control the gambling activities we do.
It is key to avoid any form of addiction at all costs, because once you are there the effort and determination needed to leave it behind is astronomical, however I really think that people underestimate how damaging an addiction can be and it is because of this they do not take the necessary steps to avoid it, and once they realize the truth there is nothing they can do but to try to improve the old-fashioned way, and unfortunately there are many people that fail on this goal and will keep their addiction for the rest of their lives.
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September 17, 2023, 02:01:30 PM
To be honest, I still dont quite understand how there is people around internet even suggesting gambling can be a reliable way to earn money (as a gambler). Gambling is a business and in order for a business to survive, it is supposed to be profitable, if there were a reliable way to gamble and defeat the house, then gambling would not be a business anymore and those big resorts and casinos in Las Vegas won't pay themselves.

Only see gambling as a hobby and if you even find yourself having a good luck streak and pocketing some bucks, then be sure to enjoy them (or part of them) instead gambling it all away.
I agree with you and real evidence that we can see and it is simpler is that no casino has gone bankrupt.
From the understanding you said and the simple words I said, it is very clear that gambling not the right place to make money or double money but is more appropriate to entertain yourself looking for fun with friends or alone to enjoy luck that will come but if you are not lucky consider it just an entertaining game.
The problem with news on the internet is that I also read a lot of article about how to make money from gambling and I think this something ridiculous, whereas gambling business runs to make money, not to give money to gamblers, so gambling will never give big wins from small bets apart from luck, even when we are lucky, we always get problem related to being accused by gambling parties of making mistakes.
so still the casino wins and we will lose and how amusing yourself will be much more fun than misleading yourself from the hope of a big win.

Actually, I think there has been instances of casinos and game places which have gone bankrupt, but it had little or nothing to do with gamblers draining dry the bankroll of the institution but other reasons.
One of the best examples that come to mind is the old Trump Plaza, a resort owned by Trump's organization and it ended up being permanently closed.

Anyways, as we both agree, the day gambling becomes profitable for gamblers in a reliable way, it will be the day the casino industry will end as we know it.

If you feel like reading more about Trump's casino, you can see more information about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Plaza_Hotel_and_Casino
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September 17, 2023, 01:07:02 PM
To be honest, I still dont quite understand how there is people around internet even suggesting gambling can be a reliable way to earn money (as a gambler). Gambling is a business and in order for a business to survive, it is supposed to be profitable, if there were a reliable way to gamble and defeat the house, then gambling would not be a business anymore and those big resorts and casinos in Las Vegas won't pay themselves.

Only see gambling as a hobby and if you even find yourself having a good luck streak and pocketing some bucks, then be sure to enjoy them (or part of them) instead gambling it all away.
I agree with you and real evidence that we can see and it is simpler is that no casino has gone bankrupt.
From the understanding you said and the simple words I said, it is very clear that gambling not the right place to make money or double money but is more appropriate to entertain yourself looking for fun with friends or alone to enjoy luck that will come but if you are not lucky consider it just an entertaining game.
The problem with news on the internet is that I also read a lot of article about how to make money from gambling and I think this something ridiculous, whereas gambling business runs to make money, not to give money to gamblers, so gambling will never give big wins from small bets apart from luck, even when we are lucky, we always get problem related to being accused by gambling parties of making mistakes.
so still the casino wins and we will lose and how amusing yourself will be much more fun than misleading yourself from the hope of a big win.
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