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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on July 29, 2023, 10:46:00 AM

I don't know why but I feel for some personal reasons people don't actually quit gambling for good, I feel they just take a break from it well if am wrong for everyone then for myself that's what I actually do because anything I feel I have gambled more than expected I actually pause for sometime and let go so I won't get affected emotionally and mentally.

I think some do, but it depends. You know, some people do experience some kind of issue at work or with their family because of their gambling habits, and those kinds of situations really do make them have no better choice than to just quit gambling entirely. Like a friend of mine who has decided not to be gambling because of his girlfriend, I asked him one day, Since he is no longer gambling, what if he is no longer in a relationship with the girl?, and he said, "Until then, but for a long time now, the guy has just stopped gambling, and if it happens that he gets married to the girl, then he probably has stopped gambling for life.

If something affects you negatively or on your day to day life, quitting is a no brainer but just like other things just like dr*gs, it's hard to quit because there are addiction and some things that push you to do it. There are people who thinks that these addiction is their escape to the reality temporarily, being happy doing gambling and experiencing the rush or adrenaline to dodge their true situation. Thus this affects them negatively more than they realize.

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Quote from: decodx on July 29, 2023, 06:37:18 AM

I don't know why but I feel for some personal reasons people don't actually quit gambling for good, I feel they just take a break from it well if am wrong for everyone then for myself that's what I actually do because anything I feel I have gambled more than expected I actually pause for sometime and let go so I won't get affected emotionally and mentally.

I think some do, but it depends. You know, some people do experience some kind of issue at work or with their family because of their gambling habits, and those kinds of situations really do make them have no better choice than to just quit gambling entirely. Like a friend of mine who has decided not to be gambling because of his girlfriend, I asked him one day, Since he is no longer gambling, what if he is no longer in a relationship with the girl?, and he said, "Until then, but for a long time now, the guy has just stopped gambling, and if it happens that he gets married to the girl, then he probably has stopped gambling for life.

There are any senario like this and some gamblers even if they are too addicted if they found Thier true love or let say girl friend then they will sacrifice Themselves and leave gambling forever than leaving his girl. And also even me if I am in the situation then I'll choose my girl and leave my gambling. Even though we can not deny the fact that once we got addicted we need to control ourselves in order to brt greediness and spontaneous decisions.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on July 26, 2023, 09:32:05 AM

A drug addict can get better with rehab but a gambling addict can't get better with rehab because there are financial issues involved where emotions work harder. And it is this emotion that does not allow a gambling addict to quit gambling easily.

I don't think so, does that mean that it will be vice versa onto a drug addict? Rehabilitation is different in every case but I think it will work on gambling addiction as well as long as the patient is doing the work that they need to do. Though I don't tend to know how financial issue works on gambling addicts as what you stated.

Rehabilitation does not bring drug addicts to leave completely, it's just a formality, many come out of rehabilitation but eventually they return to using drugs, so they can't completely stop even though they have gone through a difficult stage like rehabilitation, as well as gambling addicts usually have financial problems if they don't having money might help to cut down and stop gambling.

But if you still have money and assets I'm sure it's difficult because gambling addicts always sell whatever they have as long as they can catch up on the losses they've experienced so most gamblers always feel they can't control their emotions and revenge to get back what they lost, gambling addicts just can't accept the risk that gambling can lose money but they don't realize it so they keep playing after the lost money so they can come back again, but in the end they don't get it anymore and even spend all the money unconsciously. the only way to cure addicts that must start from the desire of the addict.

I don't agree with you at all. Rehab can indeed be a very important step in helping addicts overcome their addiction. True, in some cases the addiction can return after rehabilitation, but this doesn't mean that the rehabilitation is just a formality. Addiction is a complex problem, and relapse is a common part of the recovery process. However, many people successfully recover from addiction through rehabilitation, so it is not good to generalize and simplify things like this.

I agree with you that Rehab has the power to stop someone from addiction and it can greatly reduce the levels of addiction. I also agree that some of those addicts who have gone through rehabilitation can still get addicted to gambling once again, but I highly doubt that they will have the same levels of intensity or addiction levels after going through rehabilitation. The addiction is a powerful thing and that's why rehab centers often have a hard process for the addicts so that they can give up on their addiction. However, I still think that rehab with some strong emotional bound can cause huge changes in someone's mindset and that person can somehow control his/her addiction to some extent.

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Quote from: Dimitri94 on July 26, 2023, 07:32:34 AM

So I think it's easy to join in gambling but very hard to leave.

that is the reality experienced by most gamblers. Somehow they get money big enough to spend in the casino every day. this is for the addicted gambler. and it will be difficult to get out. I also feel that even though I only bet for a small nominal.
but one of the reasons for bad gamblers who cannot stop gambling regularly is that their finances are indeed quite strong. when there is nothing to bet on, it's possible that the gambling has already used up the assets that are owned. then it will definitely stop. but the problem is when they have a little money back, they can just go back to spending it on games. can come out or not, I think it depends on the changes of the gambler himself after all his assets are lost due to gambling.

An addicted gambler is not dangerous as long as they have money to spend and fulfill their urge, as soon as they get out of money and have nothing to sell so that they can get some money, they will become dangerous because they can do almost anything only to get some money so that they can continue gambling, and that isn't a good thing for those who live around them, they can do kidnapping, robbery, stealing, or anything that can provide them some money to the time being.

So, an addicted gambler doesn't basically stop when they get out of money but they start looking for other ways to get money if they have spent every penny they had and also have sold and used every asset and property they owned, such a gambler can be really dangerous and a threat to society.

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Quote from: piebeyb on July 29, 2023, 05:22:46 AM

I don't know why but I feel for some personal reasons people don't actually quit gambling for good, I feel they just take a break from it well if am wrong for everyone then for myself that's what I actually do because anything I feel I have gambled more than expected I actually pause for sometime and let go so I won't get affected emotionally and mentally.

I think some do, but it depends. You know, some people do experience some kind of issue at work or with their family because of their gambling habits, and those kinds of situations really do make them have no better choice than to just quit gambling entirely. Like a friend of mine who has decided not to be gambling because of his girlfriend, I asked him one day, Since he is no longer gambling, what if he is no longer in a relationship with the girl?, and he said, "Until then, but for a long time now, the guy has just stopped gambling, and if it happens that he gets married to the girl, then he probably has stopped gambling for life.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on July 28, 2023, 10:40:11 PM

Quote from: rhomelmabini on July 28, 2023, 10:40:11 PM

A drug addict can get better with rehab but a gambling addict can't get better with rehab because there are financial issues involved where emotions work harder. And it is this emotion that does not allow a gambling addict to quit gambling easily.

I don't think so, does that mean that it will be vice versa onto a drug addict? Rehabilitation is different in every case but I think it will work on gambling addiction as well as long as the patient is doing the work that they need to do. Though I don't tend to know how financial issue works on gambling addicts as what you stated.

Rehabilitation does not bring drug addicts to leave completely, it's just a formality, many come out of rehabilitation but eventually they return to using drugs, so they can't completely stop even though they have gone through a difficult stage like rehabilitation, as well as gambling addicts usually have financial problems if they don't having money might help to cut down and stop gambling.

But if you still have money and assets I'm sure it's difficult because gambling addicts always sell whatever they have as long as they can catch up on the losses they've experienced so most gamblers always feel they can't control their emotions and revenge to get back what they lost, gambling addicts just can't accept the risk that gambling can lose money but they don't realize it so they keep playing after the lost money so they can come back again, but in the end they don't get it anymore and even spend all the money unconsciously. the only way to cure addicts that must start from the desire of the addict.

As Al Pacino said in a movie about bookies "If I've learned anything in my life, Leo your problem is not passion for the game, no doubt I don't know how to say it without using harsh language but, you're a wimp Leo. Like a broken car you have some hidden flaw inside. You and me and everybody here, we're all wimps. We look like everybody else, but what sets us apart is our defect. You see, most gamblers bet to win, and we bet to lose.... Leo, your problem isn't gambling, it's a rotten need to feel something."
In fact, rarely has the problem of avid gamblers been highlighted as much as in the movie "Two for the Money" and really most of the players just can not stop, they will play until they lose, this is what all casinos are built on, they all lure people of such a character and the longer they are there, the more they lose.

As for drug rehab, I disagree. A lot depends on the environment and people who can help overcome addiction after rehab center. Without rehab centers everything would be much worse, it's just that most of those who start taking drugs again are in a bad environment, with people who don't help fight addiction.

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Quote from: piebeyb on July 29, 2023, 05:22:46 AM

A drug addict can get better with rehab but a gambling addict can't get better with rehab because there are financial issues involved where emotions work harder. And it is this emotion that does not allow a gambling addict to quit gambling easily.

I don't think so, does that mean that it will be vice versa onto a drug addict? Rehabilitation is different in every case but I think it will work on gambling addiction as well as long as the patient is doing the work that they need to do. Though I don't tend to know how financial issue works on gambling addicts as what you stated.

I would have been in a haste to oppose your view about drug addiction and gambling addiction. But why trying to oppose you, I had to listen from your side of idea and understood clearly that there is a robust difference between gambling addiction and drug addiction.
When you said about money and finances being involved, I understood it correctly. Do you know why there is this difference?
This is because someone that is addicted to a drug or alcohol is just trying to enjoy themselves or they are hurted by friends or relatives.
But someone who is a gambling addict is seriously expecting millions of dollars they will win one day. This expectation keeps them in the addiction and makes it long enough for them to be cured.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on July 28, 2023, 10:40:11 PM

Quote from: rhomelmabini on July 28, 2023, 10:40:11 PM

A drug addict can get better with rehab but a gambling addict can't get better with rehab because there are financial issues involved where emotions work harder. And it is this emotion that does not allow a gambling addict to quit gambling easily.

I don't think so, does that mean that it will be vice versa onto a drug addict? Rehabilitation is different in every case but I think it will work on gambling addiction as well as long as the patient is doing the work that they need to do. Though I don't tend to know how financial issue works on gambling addicts as what you stated.

Rehabilitation does not bring drug addicts to leave completely, it's just a formality, many come out of rehabilitation but eventually they return to using drugs, so they can't completely stop even though they have gone through a difficult stage like rehabilitation, as well as gambling addicts usually have financial problems if they don't having money might help to cut down and stop gambling.

But if you still have money and assets I'm sure it's difficult because gambling addicts always sell whatever they have as long as they can catch up on the losses they've experienced so most gamblers always feel they can't control their emotions and revenge to get back what they lost, gambling addicts just can't accept the risk that gambling can lose money but they don't realize it so they keep playing after the lost money so they can come back again, but in the end they don't get it anymore and even spend all the money unconsciously. the only way to cure addicts that must start from the desire of the addict.

I don't agree with you at all. Rehab can indeed be a very important step in helping addicts overcome their addiction. True, in some cases the addiction can return after rehabilitation, but this doesn't mean that the rehabilitation is just a formality. Addiction is a complex problem, and relapse is a common part of the recovery process. However, many people successfully recover from addiction through rehabilitation, so it is not good to generalize and simplify things like this.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on July 28, 2023, 04:18:09 AM

A drug addict can get better with rehab but a gambling addict can't get better with rehab because there are financial issues involved where emotions work harder. And it is this emotion that does not allow a gambling addict to quit gambling easily.

I don't think so, does that mean that it will be vice versa onto a drug addict? Rehabilitation is different in every case but I think it will work on gambling addiction as well as long as the patient is doing the work that they need to do. Though I don't tend to know how financial issue works on gambling addicts as what you stated.

Rehabilitation does not bring drug addicts to leave completely, it's just a formality, many come out of rehabilitation but eventually they return to using drugs, so they can't completely stop even though they have gone through a difficult stage like rehabilitation, as well as gambling addicts usually have financial problems if they don't having money might help to cut down and stop gambling.

But if you still have money and assets I'm sure it's difficult because gambling addicts always sell whatever they have as long as they can catch up on the losses they've experienced so most gamblers always feel they can't control their emotions and revenge to get back what they lost, gambling addicts just can't accept the risk that gambling can lose money but they don't realize it so they keep playing after the lost money so they can come back again, but in the end they don't get it anymore and even spend all the money unconsciously. the only way to cure addicts that must start from the desire of the addict.

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To begin with, how many gambling addicts go for rehabilitation??? This is not about drugs that could cause a psychic issue that would be easily noticed and calls for urgent concern, it's gambling and many of those people who are gambling addicts might at times not know by themselves and also at times, might not be noticed by others too. The latter has happened to me in 2013, despite being addicted to playing lotteries back then, none of my family members know despite living with them daily. I actually realised by myself that something was wrong, which made me fight it and was able to come out of it within two weeks.

I said all these to roar the inner mind of a gambling addict, it might be late before people started noticing and it could be so disastrous at that later stage. They, as adults are saddled with the responsibility of observing themselves regularly and exercising the necessary measure before it's too late. Everything should be done in moderation no matter how you love the thing, and in everything you do in gambling, gamble responsibly and be disciplined.

Maybe only a few gamblers who are addicted to gambling can realize that there is something wrong with them and it is gambling addiction. And these few are trying their best to overcome their gambling addiction and even fight it alone without help from others. You have proven you can fight gambling addiction and realized it was a mistake, so you set out to cure it and succeeded.

Everyone can do it if they want to realize that they have a gambling addiction and want to cure it. But on average, they don't want or are still not ready to leave their comfort zone so they still gamble. And as long as you are aware of it and want to cure your gambling addiction, it is never too late to start, whether you want it or not.

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The thing is not to quit gambling, most especially if you gambling for entertainment and how to keep yourself enjoying, I am also against the opinion of taking gambling as a source of income, but I am also for gambling because I actively gamble from time to time.

So there is a difference between the two, and that is what ops must take into consideration in this instance and for that ops need to have rethink his decision to quit gambling in its totality.

I don't know why but I feel for some personal reasons people don't actually quit gambling for good, I feel they just take a break from it well if am wrong for everyone then for myself that's what I actually do because anything I feel I have gambled more than expected I actually pause for sometime and let go so I won't get affected emotionally and mentally.

Some people gamble in order to earn money.
Some also gamble for entertainment.

But as I can see, there are a lot of gamblers who think that they could win rather than just enjoy themselves. Of course, none of us are not aiming for it but we also know how to accept the fact that gambling isn't that looks like.

I don't encourage people to stop gambling but what I wanted is for them to think about it. I don't care about rich people but I was very concerned about the poor people who keep on gambling.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on July 28, 2023, 07:31:10 PM

A drug addict can get better with rehab but a gambling addict can't get better with rehab because there are financial issues involved where emotions work harder. And it is this emotion that does not allow a gambling addict to quit gambling easily.

I don't think so, does that mean that it will be vice versa onto a drug addict? Rehabilitation is different in every case but I think it will work on gambling addiction as well as long as the patient is doing the work that they need to do. Though I don't tend to know how financial issue works on gambling addicts as what you stated.

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A drug addict can get better with rehab but a gambling addict can't get better with rehab because there are financial issues involved where emotions work harder. And it is this emotion that does not allow a gambling addict to quit gambling easily.

I beg to differ.
Addiction to gambling is mostly a psychological and mental addiction while addiction to drugs or alcohol is physical addiction. Logically, recovering from gambling addiction is easier if the affected person have the will and really want to recover.
Of course, the process is long and he needs professional assistance aside from the family and friends support.

Agreed, gambling is much connected with the self willing of the person. If the person himself have decided to stop gambling and have control over his activities then it can be easily stopped even without any kind of rehabilitation visit. As said the drug addiction is different from gambling addiction. With drug addiction things were different as the health will be much worsened out of it whereas with gambling it is all about the mental stress.

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Quote from: Hamphser on July 28, 2023, 04:59:38 PM

A drug addict can get better with rehab but a gambling addict can't get better with rehab because there are financial issues involved where emotions work harder. And it is this emotion that does not allow a gambling addict to quit gambling easily.

I beg to differ.
Addiction to gambling is mostly a psychological and mental addiction while addiction to drugs or alcohol is physical addiction. Logically, recovering from gambling addiction is easier if the affected person have the will and really want to recover.
Of course, the process is long and he needs professional assistance aside from the family and friends support.

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Yes, if you wont really be that making priority with gambling and does have that kind of balance in between decisions in life then you wont really be ending up on this kind of situation on which you would really be

making yourself that too engaging with gambling and this is something that you wont really be bothering yourself in terms of possible addiction on which most people would be suffering on.We know that
there would really be huge problems on the time that you would really be caught up yourself on addiction on which this is the primary challenges or possibility on which a certain a person could suffer out.
Dont make yourself get yourself into addiction because if you do then you would really be finding yourself on a hard situation because getting out is really that hard.

You would neither be needing some help from your loved ones or even on professional on which it is something that wont really be still guaranteeing that you would really be able to quit on point.
Put your priorities first and never ever make gambling to wrecked you out financially because this had been always the case on which people do really ends up.

Worth noting, priorities and proper handling or balancing your decision in life, it's not as easy as it is when you have that kind of engagements but it's really doable when you have that will to help and be help, if your mindset is really focus with how you can completely eliminate the problem and you are willing to resource anything just to free yourself, then that will power will always win against anything
that bothers you.

You just need to be strong and not to allow any doubt to dominate inside you, with the help of your love ones to the point of having
professional help, all will work together to fix whatever is needed to fix to regain back the control and create the right balance inside
you.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 28, 2023, 04:47:48 PM

The thing is not to quit gambling, most especially if you gambling for entertainment and how to keep yourself enjoying, I am also against the opinion of taking gambling as a source of income, but I am also for gambling because I actively gamble from time to time.

So there is a difference between the two, and that is what ops must take into consideration in this instance and for that ops need to have rethink his decision to quit gambling in its totality.

Most people in the quest of having fun from gambling gradually addicts. Addiction is not something that happens suddenly and it takes many people unaware to understand that they are getting to addicted. It is only few people who will able to understand when excessiveness begins to enter into their daily endeavour.
Quiting gambling is very difficult especially when addicted, the best thing is to avoid addiction entirely.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on July 28, 2023, 03:02:33 PM

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The thing is not to quit gambling, most especially if you gambling for entertainment and how to keep yourself enjoying, I am also against the opinion of taking gambling as a source of income, but I am also for gambling because I actively gamble from time to time.

So there is a difference between the two, and that is what ops must take into consideration in this instance and for that ops need to have rethink his decision to quit gambling in its totality.

I don't know why but I feel for some personal reasons people don't actually quit gambling for good, I feel they just take a break from it well if am wrong for everyone then for myself that's what I actually do because anything I feel I have gambled more than expected I actually pause for sometime and let go so I won't get affected emotionally and mentally.

Well, for those who are not addicted, or who are occasional gamblers, it is very possible to quit gambling forever if they manage to get into something that keeps them occupied every single day, by occasional gamblers, I mean those who don't gamble frequently or regularly, not because they are on break from gambling but because it is just their nature.

If an occasional gambler becomes a CEO of a big multinational company, there is a very high chance that such person will never return to gambling, this is if they even remember that there is such a thing as gambling, this is due to work load, imagine having to wake up very early in a morning to prepare and be in the office on time, and coming back late at night, when you come back, all you just wanna do is take your bath, eat dinner and lay down to sleep, and you do this every single day except on Sundays, such a person will hardly have the time to do online or even physical gambling depending on the nature of gambling before rising to that level.

Exactly, if there's other things which is important to you thinking about gambling will be far and not be concluded from your priorities, and that affects everything, you can call yourself occasional gambler and stopping or quitting will never be a problem, unlike with people who still trying to hide the truth behind their gambling participation,

keep insisting that they are just an occasional gambler but their mindset are deeply attached with gambling, people who are discreetly playing and already losing their money and keep on pushing forward to try recovering the money that they already lost along the way.

Yes, if you wont really be that making priority with gambling and does have that kind of balance in between decisions in life then you wont really be ending up on this kind of situation on which you would really be

making yourself that too engaging with gambling and this is something that you wont really be bothering yourself in terms of possible addiction on which most people would be suffering on.We know that
there would really be huge problems on the time that you would really be caught up yourself on addiction on which this is the primary challenges or possibility on which a certain a person could suffer out.
Dont make yourself get yourself into addiction because if you do then you would really be finding yourself on a hard situation because getting out is really that hard.

You would neither be needing some help from your loved ones or even on professional on which it is something that wont really be still guaranteeing that you would really be able to quit on point.
Put your priorities first and never ever make gambling to wrecked you out financially because this had been always the case on which people do really ends up.

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