Topic: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let&#039;s talk. - page 62. (Read 10336 times)

Quote from: piebeyb on July 20, 2023, 01:38:20 AM

I like your point here, they have to determine from their heart to change if not everything will results into wasted efforts if care is not taken, there's a stage an addiction will get to and go beyond control except if the person involved willingly determined to change but it would have been too late i most cases because they would have been seriously dealt with and left with no other alternative to live than quitting.

It's not that those addicts don't want to recover from their addiction but it's what's known as "relapse".
After rehabilitation, some if not most adficts have a tendency to get back to their previous habits (addiction).
Rehabilitation takes time and full recovery from addiction needs a strong will and strong personality from the addict himself. Yet, there will be always a possibility for relapse.

All the same, how hard it is for these people throughout their lives. Even having given up addiction, they, like a tightrope walker over the abyss, go through their life path, at any moment you can fall. After this, you understand how important it is for a person not to start, because the first time is like the first step on this cable car over the abyss for life.

Governments should reduce the aggressive advertising of various gambling houses, so that there are fewer people who will take the first step.

In rehabilitation, these addicts try to attend every available training to cure their gambling addiction gradually. And with the time given to gambling addicts to recover, they have to be really serious about undergoing rehabilitation. They should be able to reflect on what they got in playing gambling before and if they really regret it, rehabilitation should be a good place for them to heal themselves.

And preferably, during the rehabilitation period, the gambling addict continues to be accompanied by his family and provides support and encouragement that he deserves to heal himself and change his life for the better. This must be done so that the gambling addict does not feel alone in struggling to cure his gambling addiction so that he will be more enthusiastic about undergoing each rehabilitation session until it is time for him to cure his gambling addiction truly.

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Quote from: Reatim on July 19, 2023, 10:52:30 PM

wrong in that part , because all the vices you mentioned are completely to spend money but in gambling there is a chance to gain more though it is smaller percent yet there is far different than those others so addiction in gambling is harder to achieve .
and also you are correct that those are all leading to same thing and that is to lose our life if not managed correctly .

]stopping gambling addiction is easier to do than quitting addiction from drugs,

agreed mate , though that is not what the topic stands but yes I have some colleagues that got to quit in gambling but never in drugs.
though I believe that most drug addict are also gamblers(if they have a chance of having enough money to gamble)

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But depending on each human being, there are those who can heal themselves, there are also those who are desperate for it because they are frustrated because they have lost everything and have lots of debt everywhere, making it difficult to get up to recover. Logically, it will not make him die if he has to leave gambling, which is actually not must be done, simply reducing gambling is more than enough.

of course it is always depend in that person because we have all different on going and decisioning in life , but what we are talking here is the majority generally .

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Quote from: Fatunad on July 24, 2023, 06:18:10 PM

You got a point though but im not really that taking back on what i have said about its not necessary because on initial phase then having that self realization is primarily needed for you to get rid of addiction.
Yes, its hard but its not impossible and for sure there are some gambling addicts had already done such thing without even touching up professional seek of help.Just like i have said that each person is different
when it comes to their self control and discipline on which there are some who could be able to do it but there are ones who do fail on this part and this is why they do fail on quitting even into those
early signs of addiction but rather they do tolerate out that kind of feeling or emotion towards gambling on which this one makes them addicted.

And that's a good point it's not necessary if you have that self-will I mean if you can really deal with it even how hard for you to quit all the way, and also a valid point in seeking for professional as an extra help to guide you to start balancing your life, not impossible in the sense that your willingness really push you but if in case that it's tough battle with you, I mean if that linger inside you continue to push your desire to gamble, professional help will help you to overcome that.

There's a step-by-step process, but still that self-will is the important factor to achieve that goal. Quitting is not easy if you are already addicted that's the thing, and it's only you who can help to free yourself from this addiction.

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Quote from: serjent05 on July 24, 2023, 05:24:37 PM

Quote from: Fatunad on July 24, 2023, 03:59:28 PM

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Quote from: khaled0111 on July 23, 2023, 06:57:28 PM

Quote from: Fatunad on July 24, 2023, 03:59:28 PM

I like your point here, they have to determine from their heart to change if not everything will results into wasted efforts if care is not taken, there's a stage an addiction will get to and go beyond control except if the person involved willingly determined to change but it would have been too late i most cases because they would have been seriously dealt with and left with no other alternative to live than quitting.

It's not that those addicts don't want to recover from their addiction but it's what's known as "relapse".
After rehabilitation, some if not most adficts have a tendency to get back to their previous habits (addiction).
Rehabilitation takes time and full recovery from addiction needs a strong will and strong personality from the addict himself. Yet, there will be always a possibility for relapse.

The exact idea of rehab is to regain back the normal mindset of a person to bring back the balance in him, but once he start playing back at his will, that rehab will be pointless and it will create more problem to the person, it's the own will that needed as after the rehab a gambler should never look to this venue even just for fun or anything.

As he always has that chance to be addicted again and it will trigger that lust to keep playing over and over again.

Going on rehab or having that professional seek of help is something that not necessary because you could eventually quit on your own if you are really that meant on doing so.

I disagree, gambling addicts have this situation where this relapse, cravings and many other things that will possibly force them to go back to gambling. Rehabilitation is needed so that gambling addicts can have support while recovering their control over their addiction. It is very important because it is a systematic way of curing people of gambling addiction. Besides having professional help in a recovery of gambling addiction often gives more satisfactory result.

You got a point though but im not really that taking back on what i have said about its not necessary because on initial phase then having that self realization is primarily needed for you to get rid of addiction.
Yes, its hard but its not impossible and for sure there are some gambling addicts had already done such thing without even touching up professional seek of help.Just like i have said that each person is different
when it comes to their self control and discipline on which there are some who could be able to do it but there are ones who do fail on this part and this is why they do fail on quitting even into those
early signs of addiction but rather they do tolerate out that kind of feeling or emotion towards gambling on which this one makes them addicted.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 24, 2023, 10:32:00 AM

Quote from: khaled0111 on July 23, 2023, 06:57:28 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on July 24, 2023, 10:32:00 AM

I like your point here, they have to determine from their heart to change if not everything will results into wasted efforts if care is not taken, there's a stage an addiction will get to and go beyond control except if the person involved willingly determined to change but it would have been too late i most cases because they would have been seriously dealt with and left with no other alternative to live than quitting.

It's not that those addicts don't want to recover from their addiction but it's what's known as "relapse".
After rehabilitation, some if not most adficts have a tendency to get back to their previous habits (addiction).
Rehabilitation takes time and full recovery from addiction needs a strong will and strong personality from the addict himself. Yet, there will be always a possibility for relapse.

The exact idea of rehab is to regain back the normal mindset of a person to bring back the balance in him, but once he start playing back at his will, that rehab will be pointless and it will create more problem to the person, it's the own will that needed as after the rehab a gambler should never look to this venue even just for fun or anything.

As he always has that chance to be addicted again and it will trigger that lust to keep playing over and over again.

Going on rehab or having that professional seek of help is something that not necessary because you could eventually quit on your own if you are really that meant on doing so.

I disagree, gambling addicts have this situation where this relapse, cravings and many other things that will possibly force them to go back to gambling. Rehabilitation is needed so that gambling addicts can have support while recovering their control over their addiction. It is very important because it is a systematic way of curing people of gambling addiction. Besides having professional help in a recovery of gambling addiction often gives more satisfactory result.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on July 23, 2023, 06:57:28 PM

Quote from: khaled0111 on July 23, 2023, 06:57:28 PM

I like your point here, they have to determine from their heart to change if not everything will results into wasted efforts if care is not taken, there's a stage an addiction will get to and go beyond control except if the person involved willingly determined to change but it would have been too late i most cases because they would have been seriously dealt with and left with no other alternative to live than quitting.

It's not that those addicts don't want to recover from their addiction but it's what's known as "relapse".
After rehabilitation, some if not most adficts have a tendency to get back to their previous habits (addiction).
Rehabilitation takes time and full recovery from addiction needs a strong will and strong personality from the addict himself. Yet, there will be always a possibility for relapse.

The exact idea of rehab is to regain back the normal mindset of a person to bring back the balance in him, but once he start playing back at his will, that rehab will be pointless and it will create more problem to the person, it's the own will that needed as after the rehab a gambler should never look to this venue even just for fun or anything.

As he always has that chance to be addicted again and it will trigger that lust to keep playing over and over again.

Going on rehab or having that professional seek of help is something that not necessary because you could eventually quit on your own if you are really that meant on doing so.It is really just that an additional
cost if you do find yourself on seeking out help on this method but well not all people would really be that good when it comes to self control and will on stopping into something completely. How much more
if you do find yourself that addicted with gambling which is something the hardest thing for you to quit on point.Usually people would stop on the time that they wont really be having money on their pockets
on which this is the usual case. Just like the rest been saying that gambling is for fun and dont go into that certain extent or comes into a point on which your desperation would really be in the roof and
really having those high hopes on becoming rich because of gambling which we know that reality doesnt work that way.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on July 23, 2023, 06:57:28 PM

I like your point here, they have to determine from their heart to change if not everything will results into wasted efforts if care is not taken, there's a stage an addiction will get to and go beyond control except if the person involved willingly determined to change but it would have been too late i most cases because they would have been seriously dealt with and left with no other alternative to live than quitting.

It's not that those addicts don't want to recover from their addiction but it's what's known as "relapse".
After rehabilitation, some if not most adficts have a tendency to get back to their previous habits (addiction).
Rehabilitation takes time and full recovery from addiction needs a strong will and strong personality from the addict himself. Yet, there will be always a possibility for relapse.

The exact idea of rehab is to regain back the normal mindset of a person to bring back the balance in him, but once he start playing back at his will, that rehab will be pointless and it will create more problem to the person, it's the own will that needed as after the rehab a gambler should never look to this venue even just for fun or anything.

As he always has that chance to be addicted again and it will trigger that lust to keep playing over and over again.

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I like your point here, they have to determine from their heart to change if not everything will results into wasted efforts if care is not taken, there's a stage an addiction will get to and go beyond control except if the person involved willingly determined to change but it would have been too late i most cases because they would have been seriously dealt with and left with no other alternative to live than quitting.

It's not that those addicts don't want to recover from their addiction but it's what's known as "relapse".
After rehabilitation, some if not most adficts have a tendency to get back to their previous habits (addiction).
Rehabilitation takes time and full recovery from addiction needs a strong will and strong personality from the addict himself. Yet, there will be always a possibility for relapse.

All the same, how hard it is for these people throughout their lives. Even having given up addiction, they, like a tightrope walker over the abyss, go through their life path, at any moment you can fall. After this, you understand how important it is for a person not to start, because the first time is like the first step on this cable car over the abyss for life.

Governments should reduce the aggressive advertising of various gambling houses, so that there are fewer people who will take the first step.

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Quote from: Ojima-ojo on July 23, 2023, 04:00:44 PM

I like your point here, they have to determine from their heart to change if not everything will results into wasted efforts if care is not taken, there's a stage an addiction will get to and go beyond control except if the person involved willingly determined to change but it would have been too late i most cases because they would have been seriously dealt with and left with no other alternative to live than quitting.

It's not that those addicts don't want to recover from their addiction but it's what's known as "relapse".
After rehabilitation, some if not most adficts have a tendency to get back to their previous habits (addiction).
Rehabilitation takes time and full recovery from addiction needs a strong will and strong personality from the addict himself. Yet, there will be always a possibility for relapse.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on July 23, 2023, 02:58:02 PM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on July 23, 2023, 01:24:47 PM

Quote from: Lanatsa on July 23, 2023, 02:58:02 PM

Being greedy and overly trusting in gambling for sustenance is a bad concept and every gambler must make sure to avoid those features since they are the partway to possible addictions in in the long run.

It's easy to say this but in reality, it is almost impossible to convince the gambler that he is addicted to gambling and even more different to ask him to quit gambling. The gamblers don't care what is good for them in the long run, they only see the present and want to earn money through gambling.
I don't think it can be easy for anyone to quit gambling. One situation can be that the gambler loses everything and become out of cash, only in that case he may quit as he has no other option but other than this, I don't see gamblers quitting.

Well , I think you totally missed the what Wiwo was pointing out in his comment, he wasn't talking about how easy or difficult it is for gambling addicts to quit or not quit gambling, and he wasn't also talking about whether it be impossible or not, for them to agree that they are addicted to gambling.

What Wiwo is saying is that gambling for sustenance, that is depending only on gambling as a source of livelihood is a bad attitude or character, and it is one the common ways by which many get themselves addicted to gambling, since they think of nothing else other than gambling.

Which we can say that those people who do consider out on making gambling as a source of income is something to those who are lazy.They do want fast cash or income stream on which it did really come

into a point that you cant think up well in between things which are viable and which arent or having no sense at all. On the time that they would made out such decision and things becomes messy and
did really make out such act but ending up on regretting just because it did really make out a huge disaster into their finances. Its always been that common that regrets do always come at the last and not from the start. On the time that you are really that too desperate on getting money or earning then you are somewhat lazy at the same time then you would really be thinking about
gambling as a better option.

Getting yourself into something which is not intended for source of income but rather as an entertainment then you would be ending up in a disaster or having the results
which you haven't been anticipating in the first place.

Being lazy and wanting fast money alone is not even enough to describe those set of people and this is what we have been used to because it is an entirely bad mindset to think that gambling can be taken as a source of income not more of taking gambling as a passive source of income, because of the unpredictability nature of gambling and if you think you have to take the time to time winning you recorded, should be taken as a serious income and getting to take it as a consistent income source, gambling can ruin your life so you need to avoid gambling in an excessive manner.

Gambling couldn't really be able to ruin up your life as long you are really that wary on what you are doing or the actions you are really taking. Gambling is really for fun but people do goes into a certain extent on which it would really be pushing through the boundaries or your limits when it comes to financial spending. There's nothing wrong with gambling, it is really just that on the time that people goes into those kind of motives on which it isnt really that right anymore then this is where we can say that things turns out to be a disaster if they wont really be stopping soon. This is why on the time that you do gamble then you should
really be that mindful about on the accompanying risks so that you wouldnt really be putting yourself into trouble.

Gambling addiction is something that you should really need to avoid because if not, or you are failed on doing so then getting shackled with it would be the biggest problem on a certain individual.
Quitting is never been that easy on the time that you would really be addicted to it.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on July 23, 2023, 01:24:47 PM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on July 23, 2023, 01:24:47 PM

Being greedy and overly trusting in gambling for sustenance is a bad concept and every gambler must make sure to avoid those features since they are the partway to possible addictions in in the long run.

It's easy to say this but in reality, it is almost impossible to convince the gambler that he is addicted to gambling and even more different to ask him to quit gambling. The gamblers don't care what is good for them in the long run, they only see the present and want to earn money through gambling.
I don't think it can be easy for anyone to quit gambling. One situation can be that the gambler loses everything and become out of cash, only in that case he may quit as he has no other option but other than this, I don't see gamblers quitting.

Well , I think you totally missed the what Wiwo was pointing out in his comment, he wasn't talking about how easy or difficult it is for gambling addicts to quit or not quit gambling, and he wasn't also talking about whether it be impossible or not, for them to agree that they are addicted to gambling.

What Wiwo is saying is that gambling for sustenance, that is depending only on gambling as a source of livelihood is a bad attitude or character, and it is one the common ways by which many get themselves addicted to gambling, since they think of nothing else other than gambling.

Which we can say that those people who do consider out on making gambling as a source of income is something to those who are lazy.They do want fast cash or income stream on which it did really come

into a point that you cant think up well in between things which are viable and which arent or having no sense at all. On the time that they would made out such decision and things becomes messy and
did really make out such act but ending up on regretting just because it did really make out a huge disaster into their finances. Its always been that common that regrets do always come at the last and not from the start. On the time that you are really that too desperate on getting money or earning then you are somewhat lazy at the same time then you would really be thinking about
gambling as a better option.

Getting yourself into something which is not intended for source of income but rather as an entertainment then you would be ending up in a disaster or having the results
which you haven't been anticipating in the first place.

Being lazy and wanting fast money alone is not even enough to describe those set of people and this is what we have been used to because it is an entirely bad mindset to think that gambling can be taken as a source of income not more of taking gambling as a passive source of income, because of the unpredictability nature of gambling and if you think you have to take the time to time winning you recorded, should be taken as a serious income and getting to take it as a consistent income source, gambling can ruin your life so you need to avoid gambling in an excessive manner.

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Being greedy and overly trusting in gambling for sustenance is a bad concept and every gambler must make sure to avoid those features since they are the partway to possible addictions in in the long run.

It's easy to say this but in reality, it is almost impossible to convince the gambler that he is addicted to gambling and even more different to ask him to quit gambling. The gamblers don't care what is good for them in the long run, they only see the present and want to earn money through gambling.
I don't think it can be easy for anyone to quit gambling. One situation can be that the gambler loses everything and become out of cash, only in that case he may quit as he has no other option but other than this, I don't see gamblers quitting.

Well , I think you totally missed the what Wiwo was pointing out in his comment, he wasn't talking about how easy or difficult it is for gambling addicts to quit or not quit gambling, and he wasn't also talking about whether it be impossible or not, for them to agree that they are addicted to gambling.

What Wiwo is saying is that gambling for sustenance, that is depending only on gambling as a source of livelihood is a bad attitude or character, and it is one the common ways by which many get themselves addicted to gambling, since they think of nothing else other than gambling.

Which we can say that those people who do consider out on making gambling as a source of income is something to those who are lazy.They do want fast cash or income stream on which it did really come

into a point that you cant think up well in between things which are viable and which arent or having no sense at all. On the time that they would made out such decision and things becomes messy and
did really make out such act but ending up on regretting just because it did really make out a huge disaster into their finances. Its always been that common that regrets do always come at the last and not from the start. On the time that you are really that too desperate on getting money or earning then you are somewhat lazy at the same time then you would really be thinking about
gambling as a better option.

Getting yourself into something which is not intended for source of income but rather as an entertainment then you would really be ending up on a disaster or having the results
which you havent been anticipating in the first place.

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