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What you say is reasonable, but kicking someone out a casino because of drunkenness can be very subjective for the staff in that shift to evaluate. What would be the criteria used for them to tell someone is not supposed to continue to gamble? Are they supposed to only tell them to leave when they start to act out or misbehave? Or perhaps the staff is tasked to keep a count on the number of beers and cock tales the drinking gamblers are having, so they can deny them further service when the line/limit is crossed?

Because if someone starts to be a bother after a couple of beers at the same time there could be someone even more drunk but remains quiet as continues to gamble more money. It would be interesting to know what the official protocol for these situations are.

Really not that recommended on playing gambling when you are drunk or under the influence of alcohol on which we know that decision making and self awareness is really that not good on this time or moment on which you are really that prone into those all-in kind of behavior because you just dont really care on what are the things that could happen.You would really be just that only to be able to feel up those consequences on the time that you had just already make yourself recover or fine. Gambling problems do really start on someones own actions because if you do make yourself that too delusional towards your gambling dealing or involvement then this is where problems do commonly start and this is something that you should really be avoiding in the first place.

Even in some movies people under heavy influence of alcohol are asked to leave by staff or the casino owners. I'm sure there are such casinos in real life too because not everyone is a cheater, and allowing people in that state to gamble is very close to cheating, to be honest. I don't mean drunk people are less lucky or something like that, but in that state they are prone to risk more. They can go all-in when the chance of winning is less than 1%, or they go all-in when the chance of winning is 50%, while when you sober you know that you shouldn't go all-in in any case.

Well, this advice could be good if we are talking about the sanity of the person, so that he can be focused and careful exactly as he would have acted if not under the influence of alcohol or any stimulants. But this is not perfect advice because there are people who will do better when they drink, and as off as that seems, it is real, only that they should be moderate about the drinking. For one, drinking doesn't affect me, I continue to live my life towards the positive side, and one thing again about me is that, when I drink, I get more serious and conscious because I know that drinking could impair my thoughts, so I become extra careful than the usual. I encourage it at times to lift up the spirit if one is dull, this could brighten the decision-making at times, to say the least.

I don't know if you have met some people who do not do anything creative or productive until they are under the influence (not excessively). I don't encourage that but it happens because I know some of them, and I don't expect them to do this in such a way that it will be abused but in a moderate way to keep themselves alert if it is working for them. I hope you get this, and it is not a way to support it but instead of entirely discouraging an act of drinking, just a way to say that what some people think is bad might not entirely be bad for others. Only that we should discover ourselves and know what works for us.

Yes, alcohol is so good getting rid of inhibitions that there is a common and popular saying about how drunk people usually do not lie, and only speak what they actually believe, I have myself dealt with drunk people who have said things which would not otherwise.
Also, here in my country we have two different words for what people in USA and English speaking countries would call a "blackout". The first one refers to when someone is intoxicated enough to be able to perform basic things, like walking, speaking and holding objects in their hands, but they wont recall what they did when they wake up next morning, because of the effects of the alcohol. The second one means someones literally passing out while drinking, falling on the floor.
During the first one, a gambler does not recognize what is doing or is not aware of the consequences, since they have not yet fallen on the floor they could continue to gamble or even offer their credit card to the cashier of the casino for them to continue to give him chips as much/long as possible.

It makes me question what they protocols are for casinos to handle those situations, If I had to guess, I would assume they would allow people in that state to gamble as much as if they were sober. What do you think?

Great initiative and hopefully you see people that have gambling problems flock your website to get your help or get help for someone, gambling problem and gambling addiction is often overlooked by some as not that bad kind of addiction but let me tell you that it's as bad as those other ones when it's ignored and not treated.
I can attest to the inhibitions part, that's what one of my Science teacher told us back then about alcohol, that it relaxes or weakens our inhibitions and another thing that we should also remember is that alcohol doesn't change someone, it just releases the repressed personality that they've got behind their sober persona so if you have a loud personality but you're generally, you'll be a loud one when you're drunk and you're aware of it most of the time. Me supporting the claim with my experience isn't a thing that's going to make this the absolute truth though as there's no study presented and only personal account that's similar to what happened to you.
The first one is what's likely to happen and it's a smart thing that an individual is like that but the second situation, it's a problem both for the casino and the individual, the reason for that is that a casino should be taking care of their players so they shouldn't allow them to get to the point of blacking out because of drunkenness and with the individual, you should've been street smart about the fact that someone's going to steal money from you if they can so it's your responsibility that you're not going to let your guard down and that you're safe with your gambling experience.

I mean. It is not a secret that the point of getting drinks to gamblers in the casino while they wager is to get rid of more of their inhibitions. It does not only works with money or gambling, it also works for people to better socialize and forget about their problems, that is the reason you can find shy people who act in a very different manner when they start to drink alcohol. It has happened to me personally.

Anyways, back to gambling and money. If we depart from the fact gambling is supposed to be a recreational activity and one should never step into a casino with more money than one is willing to lose, then I do not see much problem when comes to drinking alcohol while gambling, provably the average gamblers would have lost the enterity of their budget regardless they were drinking or not. A different situation would be to step into a casino and drinki while one has access to credit cards, much cash or valuable objects, in the worst case scenario, one could wake up in the next morning with debt and without the valuables one had ar the previous night. There is where the actual danger or the combination of gambling and alcohol lies on.

Well, when alcohol is abused it can have many consequences and this can cause discomfort in the game for many and for some people it can also cause discomfort because no one likes to read with drunks, and even less so in a place like a casino, although many casino already has a basis that they do not allow people who are in that state of intoxication, because they are usually people who we do not know how their reactions will be, therefore they must be evicted immediately because it is something that is not safe for them or for others, there is also Some people put on embarrassing shows, and that's what no one wants to see, even if it's a drunk in a casino and something frowned upon, we, as coherent people, know if there is someone or if it's a bad drink, then you shouldn't drink, no. You must do something that tarnishes good entertainment, it is something that should not be allowed to be done, and as you say, it is also about protecting the person's reputation, it is unpleasant to see a person in that state.

Therefore, as we are people who do everything possible to have a Better image, we have to avoid that type of embarrassing events, now if it is a person who Controls his drinking and what he spends , but he can play and drink Socially even certain point , that it is not something that is going wrong , but that it looks elegant, and it is seen as a normal behavior of a person who Knows what to do and how to act in situations like these, this is what is sought, so that You can have all the best behavior in a casino , of course this only happens in traditional casinos , in casinos that are online you can do whatever you want at home , if you want to drink while playing you can do it, you are at home, if you If he gets drunk because he is at home, he will not bother anyone, and it is something normal , because it does not disturb the mood of others nor will it put them in a bad position by seeing embarrassing and Inappropriate acts when the person does not know how to drink Alcohol.

Anything that we are doing and such requires a complete attention from us, then it also deserves our best of effort in doing it, for us to use our money into gamble, i believe that we should try as much as possible to ensure complete avoidance of drinking while gambling, it's not about us getting the gambling wrong, but it's something that took away our integrity each time we are drunk gambling and we loose on reputation.

Exactly my point, you get stern warnings about the dangers of a particular commodity and you still ingest this commodity or product knowing that it is dangerous and harmful to your health or surrounding environment.

This is not just with tobacco, it is also with hard drugs, people still use it irrespective. They see the harm it causes to users and then those who want to quit, they see down syndrome those people are stuck with and they still indulge, I'm perplexed.

The biggest mistake is to think that if you've lost your bets many times in a row, the big win will come soon. I myself lost a lot of money because of that thinking. I mean, I know it doesn't matter how many bets I've lost previously, in future I'm not guaranteed anything because of that, and yet I keep betting with the hope to win something big soon. Fortunately, there were not many such cases and I'm not broke because of that, but I'd prefer to never have them.

I really want to know if this platform of QuitGamble has been able to cure people's gambling addictions or can make them a responsible gambler ?
The site has been operational for quite some time and we need to have some stats as how effective is this approach.

However, i do believe that in order to cure gambling addiction one needs to have a mentor who has very close attention to the gambling addict.
Only a continuous follow-up and careful meditation, a gambling addict can be cured and become a normal ordinary gambler. Addiction can be because one needs to recover his losses and the other one maybe to get even more profits (in case the gambler is in winning mode and earning ).

It baffling to see that in most cases with smokers getting smoke even with all the health implications and the warnings on the packs of those cigarettes, The same it is true with gambling,  despite the efforts put in place to get people away from gambling,  some still fall back to it because of it available access at all cost.
However, having an initiative from a third that helps addicts to get out of the addiction at some point.
So for that, I also commend this platform for putting up something as helpful as this service and I know with time, we are going to be seeing a lot of positive results from this platform and initiatives in the long run, but it going to actually take time for that to happen since the reflection of this kind of service always come at a much later stage but surely we are going to be seeing alot of that positive energy from the community to support and work with this ops projects.

Hmm, I still doubt any support system can make our gambling problems go away. Well if someone is too addicted to it and only drifting towards the losses. For those who understand the systematic investment plans this is never an issue for anyone. I am into gambling since 7-8 years. Initial years I have spent gambling in william hills and corral outlets. Then the online gambling sites started rolling out when I was highly active in the crypto sphere. Basically bitcointalk introduced me to these gambling sites but I never got addicted because I always have clear mind, when to start and when to stop. Most of them look for easy money and thats where everything goes into direction. Its always better to slide into casino with tight budget and leave it as soon as thats exhausted or if there is some profit from it.

This is funny actually, but then, it's understandable since online gambling casino are businesses after money, they possibly have a separate system that sends any promotional emails that needs to be sent, and the fact that a gambler self exclude themselve does not necessarily mean the casino the casino wants him or her to go, most especially when the user was or is a person the casino have been making good money from.

And I would personally say that, all this casinos advertising or preaching responsible gambling are just doing it to fulfill all righteousness, or should I say, abide to the rules given to them by their license authority.
Aside this, not very many casinos truly care for the state of their customers as long as the casino is making money.

Like I would say, or respond to comments like this, it very much depends on the level of addiction the player or gambler have gotten to, gambling addiction are of different levels. If the addiction is still at its early stage, it's very possible for the addict to help him or her self, but still not a bad thing to hang around a community though, as long as it doesn't cost the person much, and it's also for the greater good.

If they can realize it, they can solve the problem. But most people will not be able to see the way out and need help from others. That is why if someone is addicted to gambling, he needs help from others to find out and advise him to cure his gambling addiction.

Reducing the use of devices would be a good thing to do so that they can divert their attention from gambling games or using their devices. It's good to learn to control yourself by reducing your device use. At least they won't have to rely on their devices to avoid opening casino sites in their free time.

As long as you are willing to try to control yourself and learn to be disciplined, you can reduce your gambling activities. You also don't need to become addicted to gambling. And when you gamble, you don't want to gamble longer to win. And that will reduce the number of losses you will receive.

Yea, this whole "responsible gambling" marketing is a bunch of crap, because most of the sites are doing just the opposite. I have seen a site promoting that, but they refused to stop sending gambling promotions via email to gamblers that self-excluded from their site. 

Thank you for posting the URL, I will bookmark it and then send it to people that reach out for help on social media. Gambling addiction is not something to you can tackle on your own.. you need a support system. 

You blame the people and the government that is saddled with the responsibility to protect the people for this as the government is showing a less concerned attitude to people's welfare. If people are not wise enough to do the needful then the government should force them to do it, that is the sane arrangement. But for the selfish gains, the government is earning through tax and other means, they will turn a blind eye to it. Truly, tobacco and some other substances in the open market are bad, they are damaging and addictive, yet they give the consumers the option as an adult. The option is, however, reasonable and neutral enough, yet seeing that thing is a temptation on its own.

But when it is inexistent anyone, there is no way such people will not be letting go of it. But the government will not do that since the benefit outweighs the health of the citizens in their own dictionary.

Yes. It's about your willingness since we should be the first to help ourselves. So if the gambler is really determine to overcome the addiction, it will start by changing what he used to. This includes refraining from using any gadget that can tempt from playing again. It would be best to have an activity that can divert the attention and keep oneself busy. Having someone (or a community)to talk to is always good because that's how you can get a support, but as I have said, willingness is crucial.

Good for you if you do able to stop it midway because usually people would really be just that able to stop completely or made them that change is on the time that they had been devastated with gambling and they did really just that tolerate into those conditions that they had until they would really be seeing themselves getting broke and devastated because of too much involvement with gambling. We do know that it isnt really that bad to gamble as long that everything would really be in moderation but in the time comes that you are already that compromising your finances and at the same time with other relationship specially into  your family then this is the best time that you should quit gambling. Dont wait up for everything to get messed up.

You could actually solve out those problems of your own if you are really just that willing to quit gambling for good. It would really be just that depending into your self control
and discipline towards it.