Topic: rapist must die - page 2. (Read 3237 times)

Exactly it is much different in these places and I think that it actually does work. I wouldn't become better after being trapped in a facility for 30 years either.
Just read about this one: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/feb/25/norwegian-prison-inmates-treated-like-people
Time to do something bad there and go to prison? 

perhaps he could get out if it by playing the crazy card

thinking further about it, what if he has some pyschological troubles so it isn't really his choice

if the judge rules him as sane, he should be putten down

but it's highly unlikely, if he knows about this he would play the crazy card and get out of it..

this is the bastard who rape the 10months old - 1yrs old baby



this guy deserve to die

Die slowly, in a cage no food only drinks. dirty lake water.

Then you can't assume that the book conclusions are wrong, like you assumed I was from USA - without any basis of course.

The prison wasn't exactly modelled after authoritarian systems, it became that way because of the powers of the SITUATION (despite the fact that guards are necessarily authority figures). Uniforms for example cause deindividuation on both guards and prisoners and influences how they relate to each other, then it makes them fill their roles.  Once the guards feel their power and the prisoners lose their will it becomes a snowball effect, so the experiment had to be stopped.

On a similar experiment, a mock prison, there was a women that put a knife in the throat of a guard, quite an extreme behavior for a fake prison. There are other different experiments referred in the book...

Science generalizes, there is no science of the accidental (as Aristottle said). In this case, social psychology generalizes human behavior in the environment (not american behavior lol).

The book also highlights the power of the SITUATION which is made by the SYSTEM, so if the situation is different the behavior will be different. However, I find it extremely hard to believe that if a mock prison with healthy people can cause such violent behaviors, a real prison full of violent people doesn't, independent of geographical location.

Talking out of my ass, because I generally don't read every book that someone is posting on the forums.

I think you don't understand that those experiments are modelled after very authoritarian prison systems, but you don't have such conditions in more "evolved" facilities. So please don't generalise everything...

The theory is social psychology, about power systems and how people behave under certain situations. The experiments is with "healthy" students and it went bad in a couple of days. I don't think any prison would be as soft as that. Did you read the book? Do you know the points made? or are you just talking out of your ass?

It is semantics, what I meant was, that "Jails" is a very broad term and I would exclude European facilities from it, because the theory doesn't hold true for those.

why do you assume I'm from USA? lol

Anyway, the point I made was based on a scientific experiment which is in the book I linked.

This is only like that in your country. European facilities are very well organized to help those guys and give them a chance to better them selves. This is done with much education and work. Later halfwayhouses and then with companies that offer those guys jobs so that they have no need to become criminal again. The success rate is over the roof, compared to US corrupt crap prisons...

Jails actually are more criminal factories than correction facilities because of the environment. You have abuses of power from the guards, and obviously, lower class criminals mixed with higher class criminals, so the odds are that when you get out you will be on a higher tier on criminality.

MUST READ -> http://www.amazon.com/The-Lucifer-Effect-Understanding-People/dp/0812974441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407372753&sr=8-1&keywords=lucifer+effect

Well, the "castration" could be done with a machete under Man's Law - and whether it clots in time for the person to live or not is clearly Divine Judgment.

sure that there is much more worst kind if incident before but our generation is not the same as before
people can buy sex toys or a fucking doll we have internet to watch porn and guys can masturbate
i am a mother so raping a one year is not really an acceptable behavior for me

I'd like these guys advocating the death penalty and to try living in a country in the middle east under Sharia Law for a month, I can guarantee you they'd either be dead or would be immediately begging to come back to the west again.

Just because something has been around for a long time does not mean that it is okay to do.

Yeah because with christianism the cruel things suddenly improved??

Look at this list and ask yourself why it is so long: http://www.buckcash.com/opinions/temp/Christian_Crimeline.htm

Fuck you, you simpleminded prick, I'm just not a moron who will go around killing and dismembering people just because of an accusation, I want nothing to do with mob rule, I take it you're in favour of the death penalty as well then?

People can always go self-justice road, but yeah some crimes are just so unbeleiveble cruel, that you can't comprehend how a human is capable of doing that ...

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Like it was a new behavior of the modern world.

But in the past, before the Christianism, things are way worse, and people accepted pedo behavior and stuff.

what's your point here?