Topic: rapist must die - page 5. (Read 3251 times)

playing Baby,baby from Justin Bieber 24/7

but that way he becomes a burdain to the state and he would have to work and it brings me back to the downsides of the productive prison


electric chair doesn't have to put food in his mouth

Maybe he should be psychicaly punished but death penalty maybe isn't the right choice.

the debt could be paid by claiming his property instead of making him work it off

I see your point but there are plenty of downsides of the productive prison as taking sales from locals, taking jobs, making the industry you're in less profitable for anyone else who pays their workers etc.

As an aside, nobody can do much worse than Columbia and Ecuador in handling justice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_L%C3%B3pez_(serial_killer)

I don't deal in feelings, much. I'd suggest if they decide they'd like to electrocute Breivik, the executioners would only need to, combined, work long enough to pay off any debts he'd have outstanding to the government and any victims' families who did not give consent and did not participate (assuming these now "double victims" do not forgive the executioners' debt). Given the value of lives (and other property) lost or otherwise harmed of Breivik's actions and resulting debts, if even a small percentage of families did not consent nor forgive the executioners, those who kill Breivik would probably face life in prison. -So if they feel so strongly, I don't see anything wrong with it so long as they pay off the debts they'd take on in doing so.

and broadcast it in a reality show


game of thrones much?

Valar Morghulis.

All men must die.

agree most of the inmates here are doing some agricultural jobs some of them is doing some arts and crafts things that mostly for export or selling on some local markets really productive tho

but maybe if i am the mother of that child or a mother of someone who got killed then i cannot take the money that the person who killed my child is making on the prison

exactly. If I'd be the president which might happen later so vote for me.
I'd probably put these prisoners on an island and let them kill each other.

I understand your point but I think the mothers,wifes,husbands,daughters,sons of the 77 murdered by Breivik would feel much better if he ended up on the electric chair then playing PS2 games in his cell

and that working camp would require giving tools to inmates which they could use in totally different ways then intended

must die slowly.

Death sentences are ineffective at preventing serious crime. The penalties are already so high, they must assume they won't be caught or just don't care in the moment. In fact, large US federal grants for local police departments have been shown to have no significant impact on crime rates, though I doubt that does much for my case since people probably assume their police departments and courts are at least semi-functional. If it were totally dysfunctional and ineffective widescale, I'd guess there'd probably be a significant increase in crime rates. -But again, these aren't things criminals think long and hard on before committing -- they don't look at the percentage of successful rape convictions in their town or whether they'd face 20 vs. 40 years in prison before deciding to commit.

Prisoners would be more useful in a productive setting - some kind of upscale work camp, maybe. Since they can work remotely, there's really no public safety risk warranted in the labor camp debate anymore. Revenues can be split between paying for the prisoner's living expenses (and yes, even rewarding them with luxuries and decent living conditions) and making regular payments to victims or their family.

Actually... I made a little write-up on a possible labor camp program when I was bored a couple weeks ago (I'd put it in this post, but it has some formatting I'm too lazy to manually convert), outlining some revenue split examples in a theoretical work camp prison. Should someone think about labor camps being a safety hazard, I'd argue I don't think that's really a problem given high-risk inmates can be trained to work remotely and thus could even work in solitary confinement.


Crimes which can be largely emotional/psychological, like rape in some cases, are more difficult to determine the value of. These would need arbitrary minimum amounts set, I think, and with heinous crimes, a judge may, for instance, order someone's assets to be seized by government and sold off, with money given entirely to the victim(s) but which doesn't count against the debt the offender owes the victim(s) and government (in the paper, I give an example where a child-killer has his seized assets actually counting against his debt just to show how it could work). Anyway, the beneficiaries of "repayments" could do whatever they wanted with the money, maybe giving it to a charity with methods known for reducing the number of rape incidences.

I know what you're trying to say

I said I don't know how can those connections work here as such a "big" criminal should be more watched by others not influenced by that connection

as you see this got into the news and no firing of the jail employees, so it's not just connections probably, it's perhaps the regulations of that jail
and those regulations are too lite

people in jail should not be allowed to watch TV

they should not be allowed to play games

what i mean is connection on the government like those rich kid who got in jail and the parents are only paying those cops to make them live like a boss in the jail

I get connections

but how can connections work on a person who murdered 77 people?

shouldn't he be watched by everyone so those connections are prevented?

for some people with connection yes they can do that there is a plenty of people like that here in my country also so its not a new issue anymore

it's the policy don't answer violence with violence

and that's bullshit

only violence ends violence
nothing else

take Breivik for example

the dude 77 people and plays playstation 2 games in jail, he even complains about it starting a hunger strike requiring a playstation 3 !
google it

death penalty is a good punishment for this kind of people i am agree to some saying if you took some lives then you must pay it with your lives also i didnt blame some police here why they are salvaging some prison its because that people done so much crime and also dont agree with some human rights code here in my country against the suspect if you hurt them or kill them i dont understand why they put a human right for those kind of people how about the human rights of the victim?

you need therapist

When a victim dies, no one bats an eye

When some goverment hangs someone for crimes everyone loses their minds

Prison is not a good punishment for such crimes

Prison is free food, apartment etc.

I knew a homeless guy which would take a rock and break into a store window, he wouldn't take anything, he would just wait there until the cops arrived so they can take him in

He did it at winter all the time until they figured why he was doing it

I understand the poor guy, but talking about these rapists, there must be more severe punishments

Eye for an eye, rape for a rape

Someone should take a 2 meter dildo and show it up his ass for 30 minutes straight