Topic: Ratimov is deleting self-moderated topics. He now goes onto my Ignore list. (Read 1638 times)

Coming across this thread now, and I remembered that I also was affected by those thread he deleted back then, though just 2 of my posts on his thread was deleted (ones I got notification for, from the forum).



Though I wasnt affected that much since not very much of my posts were deleted, but I did was curious as to what lead him to doing such, even though I didn't give much attention to it.

I do not know though, but I just feel it's aren't so cool when a highly respected member engaged in deleting his or her own self moderated thread, as well also deleting post in the same thread which he or she initially accepted as worthy to stay in the thread.

Anyways, character they say is like a bag, we all have it, and have different stuffs in it.

I thought to leave this here too, for more visibility:

He's saying he used to put Ratimov on ignore, but later remove his name from his ignore list, "excluding" him from that list so his post are once again visible.

Heads-up: Ratimov stopped deleting old posts with evidences of plagiarism. Probably he thinks he deleted all evidences.

At same time, he or one of his minions created an account named GazetaBitcoinSV, probably for making themselves even more ridiculous. The account was created yesterday and it was already tagged.

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No, I did that. I understand that you, as mods, are supposed to keep the local board clean but this was a special case. I believe that in this case rushing to delete Ratimov's shitposts was a mistake, because people could see what he did. All those not knowing of ninjastic.space could see it. You could keep those posts for a while, at least. Which remembers me that you never answered to this post:


Why haven't you presented to other mods what he was doing? Thus maybe another mod would ban him for breaking (again and again) forum rules? You still did not explain that. And the fact that you shower each other in merits only makes you more suspicious. Maybe not in everybody's eyes but, certainly, some see this very suspicious (including me).

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Well, what could he say? "I am sorry for abusing Trust system and all these users for so many years"...? "I am sorry for plagiarizing and stealing the work of all those authors and I am also sorry for misleading all the forum"...?



Fourth most merited user? What a joke! What a joke! It's easy to become popular when you steal, right? Just as he did, for years in a row!
If you don't feel his behavior is adequate for a DT1 user, feel free to add him to your distrust list, as others did as well.

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If you feel that he is not using Trust system correctly, feel free to distrust him as well.

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This is crystal clear now.

Isn't ignoring the same as excluding?

Common LoyceV, you really didn't have to create another topic for Ratimov and about you ignoring him, it's not the first time that someone is deleting self-moderated topics  
He was part of my ignore list before but I decided to remove him because I found some of his topics useful.

You are right now writing that in one more self-moderated topic  

But his offer was not unconditional which you can see already. He wants peace for sure but only after he realizes that this is not going well for him. I was a spectator of the AOBT thread where I felt he was trolling Gazeta. He removed Gazeta's post in Quotes and inserted an image to insult Gazeta. We are so brave on the internet. We can say whatever we want. But most of us won't be able to say these things in person.

The color is not red BTW. Things get fixed with mutual understanding. Not sure how they fixed it but the recent drama gives it a flame again.

Now I am sure that he had no intention of fixing things because of his mistake. If he ever said that he wanted to fix things, he only did it for his benefit. At some point, he offered a "truce", apologized to the community and GazetaBitcoin for the offensive words, and withdrew his feedback given to Gazeta.
We can only guess why he deleted that post https://ninjastic.space/post/63041115
However, immediately after Gazeta wrote that he would not withdraw his feedbacks, there was instant revenge and neg tagging again. If you want to sincerely apologize or forgive someone, it must be unconditional.

I saw revenge feedback on BitcoinGirl.Club added later   That's not how things get fixed.


Oh, this feature is needed. The thing is in the way of use, like anything else. If two kids stab each other with pencils, it doesn't mean that pencils are unnecessary and only bring bad things.

Self-moderated thread is a forum feature, there is nothing wrong with it. This is itself is a self-moderated topic and I don't have any problem contributing in this thread but if this thread was from JollyGood then I would think more than once before posting because I know he will find a way to delete my post. Just because someone is using a feature for their own benefit and making it look bad, it does not mean the feature is bad.

Disagree completely with you. Just because one idiot misuse great feature, it doesn't means that we should get rid of it. I think that forum without self-moderated topics would be much worse place than we have now.

I think we all understand that, in principle, one can with one's self-moderated thread do what one wants, but to suddenly delete many where there has been significant discussion and quite a lot of merit, just smells bad. Like wanting to erase evidence, as has been commented.

I wondered in the previous comment to this thread if Ratimov was going to come here to explain himself but it doesn't look like it at this point. Not the behaviour one would expect from someone who is 100 most trusted, 4 most merited etc according to bpip.org.

Hm. This is getting interesting. But if he wants to fix his mistakes, it's okay. However, he didn't really need to delete those topics since moderators already give him a pass and no ban for the thing he did. About mods helping him to delete these things, I guess he is tricking mods to do their job. He is deleting everything first and then making it like a spam post that is needed to delete. So, I am not sure if I can blame the mods about it.

Yeah, I'm sorry. That wasn't meant for you.

I beg to disagree. Just because some misuse this feature (like in this case Ratimov), doesn't mean its not good/useful, especially here where there's large amount of shitposters. As a matter of fact, I would like to see it in some of the other forums that I am using.

For the record: I didn't blame you for deleting those shitposts

If you think Mods do something wrong, that may be worth a topic in Meta.
I think you didn't see my edit:

This was confirmed by the author of the Unofficial forum rules:

Self-moderated topics work very well against spam. See this topic: it has one very simple rule: post an image. More than 100 users broke that rule, just because the average user in Bitcoin Discussion only cares about his post count. Must-spam-to-earn-money! But not in my topic.

Would have to beg to differ on this. Self-moderated topics, in the right hand and with correct purpose, can be very useful. LV's threads [with this very one as a nice example, just like Jawhead999 pointed out] are proof that moderated topics are necessary.

I noticed many of my old posts were being deleted. I didn't understand, good posts being deleted for no reason.

Now I understand...

Well, I agree with others. There is no reason for a self moderate topic to exist. I think this feature should just be removed. No one, except a moderator, should be able to delete someone else posts.

He knows why he is not responding to what that has been going on here, sometimes it's very hard to face the crowd and answer series of questions maybe he is only waiting for the right to position his mindset to be able to accept all the hit, imagine someone like me who don't always have a thick skin to be able to withstand every needle that could pierced on my skin. But I know there will be a time he will come to reply to the general public on the reason for his simple action towards what has been leaking so far.
You are right about the feature but it was due to misuse of op, that was why I said if such feature are being disabled then such will never happen again.

When there are few users misusing the forum feature, it's not mean the feature isn't good for other users who use it in correct way, @OP is one of example where self moderated is important. This drama isn't only about self moderated topic, it's also involve about deleting post too, because when you replied a deleted post, you post is high likely will be deleted.

Of course he has a good deeds to help users who lack of merit to rank up and it's also correct no one is perfect. But I'm not sure why he's being silent until now, I think he have to respond about this case whether he want to apologize or stand with his own opinions.

From the drama going on the only solution to stop this next time is to remove the self moderated options as I believe it would cause more harm than this, imagine in case like this a user starts deletion of his post in other to cover the simple truth and this really shows unrealistic. There is no way a black can be turned to white over night or a green turn to white knowing too well that there's no way such thing can likely happened over here since there are lots of tools to explore and find out our earlier mistake he shouldn't have gone this far to show that he is not competent enough.

I actually I never knew all this and he has helped me in one way or the other during my struggle time to climb to the next rank when I did applied on his thread, for that I sees him as someone who is always helping upcoming user to scale through the forum. The thing is we are human and filled with mistakes as I can say no one is perfect and sometimes we can be doing the wrong things and think we are making right decisions.