As we all know, there was some sort of shakeout among the leadership of this project a few days ago. At that time, leewilson promised that there would be a public announcement in the OP. We are still waiting for that announcement. The OP is has been changed, but it still does not contain the announcement!
Yes, there was some sort of disagreement and shakeout among the leadership of this project a few days ago. In my opinion there is nothing to post in the OP in regards to these disagreements, instead we should have open discussions in the thread. No one is taking over the coin, this is not leewilson's personal project, but a community drivven initiative. The OP is still under lee's account, but that should be changed soon.
A bit of history of shakeout on #crapples IRC channel from my perspective, which I hope is unbiased. It was obvious for everyone on the channel that two members of the team found it hard to co-exist, but that goes down to them taking many aspects of discussions personally. I am trying to stay out of politics and was happily working with both. When the project started, we used Che's image and there was a bouty to create a logo using same image. Everyone was excited, but soon we found out that the image is copyright protected, so in order to continue using that image we need to get a permission from the photographer or Che's daughter. By this time we had a logo and a wallet ready with Che's image and were ready to start promoting the coin. Copyright concerns were raised again by me on IRC channel about 4 days ago, I proposed to remove Che's image and use something else until we have a permission to use it. Some people agreed with me, others didn't. Then leewilson proposed a name change from Crapples to RevolutionCoin, so the coin won't be looked at some sort of crappy coin, but a coin which community stands for something. I proposed a vote for the name change. We didn't get many votes, though everyone who was on IRC channel at the moment had a chance to do so. I now regret that we didn't post a vote on forum. Anyway, lee, adversor and EchoingUprise voted for the name change, majsta against and I passed. This is how community on IRC split, new channel was created #revolutioncoin. Everyone was welcome there. A link to #revolutioncoin was also posted on #crapples, so people will not be left in the dark. Some would probably raise a question why the link to #revolutioncoin wasn't published on the thread and they would be right, I personally never anticipated that the community is a lot bigger than just a few members on IRC channel. I would like to sincerely apologise to everyone who has been left out in the dark. For a couple of days I was on both channels talking to people and answered questions about what happened. So what has been done to the coin? Not much, only branding has changed, blockchain remains the same - it is very important that miners are not affected and all earned coins remain intact.
I would like to thank eschemenk for raising these questions, it appears that the coin has a lot more followers than participants on IRC channels, where most of the discussions took place. That would probably has to change, or at least participants of IRC channel should keep updating the thread with current discussions and decisions more often.
ESSENTIAL QUESTION #1: What is the nature of the semi-secret cabal that apparently has taken control of the project, based upon what leewison said?
The fact that such a cabal even existed was news to me, but it must* exist based on what leewilson said a few days ago.
The fact that such a cabal even existed was news to me, but it must* exist based on what leewilson said a few days ago.
Those that did not agree with the majority left of their own volition.
An official statement will be made on the OP soon.
An official statement will be made on the OP soon.
Please read above what has happened on IRC channel.
Since this has not been explained to us yet, I've been trying to figure out who is in the cabal leewilson was talking about, but I can't. Obviously, at least two people were in the minority and left. That means that there must have been at least three people in the majority and it seems almost certain that leewilson would be one of them. I have no idea who the other two or more people could be, though. Given the question funkwerk101 asked, he can't have been in the cabal at the time of the shakeup. (He is apparently in the cabal now, though.) Who the heck could the other two or more people in leewilson's majority be, then?
This is kind of important! Until this is explained, we have know way of knowing what sort of group is in control of the project. It's amazing that such a group would exist, yet be so lackadaisical about identifying themselves!
This is kind of important! Until this is explained, we have know way of knowing what sort of group is in control of the project. It's amazing that such a group would exist, yet be so lackadaisical about identifying themselves!
Realising how many supporters this coin has, it is more likely the minority, though according to numbers of IRC channel members it was an equal split. EchoingUprise has made wallet rebranding and compiled a Windows wallet, adversor has built a website, novahash prepared a server for website hosting and compiled a Linux wallet, funkwerk101 and a couple more are actively taking part in discussions.
ESSENTIAL QUESTION #2: What are the intentions of the cabal now?
I certainly doubt that the idea is steal our coins, but it would certainly be nice to know what their goals are and what they do intend to do. leewilson has said something about asking him questions via PM, but that's clearly the wrong way to handle this question for a variety of reasons: it could easily degenerate into talking behind each other's backs; leewilson already picked the OP as the venue; it would be a waste of effort to say the same thing multiple times; talking via PM would resemble the original devs talking among themselves while leaving the community in the dark and we certainly wouldn't want to repeat that. Clearly, PMs are not a valid option.
I certainly doubt that the idea is steal our coins, but it would certainly be nice to know what their goals are and what they do intend to do. leewilson has said something about asking him questions via PM, but that's clearly the wrong way to handle this question for a variety of reasons: it could easily degenerate into talking behind each other's backs; leewilson already picked the OP as the venue; it would be a waste of effort to say the same thing multiple times; talking via PM would resemble the original devs talking among themselves while leaving the community in the dark and we certainly wouldn't want to repeat that. Clearly, PMs are not a valid option.
I am glad you asked this openly rather than discussing such topics in private. The main thing at the moment is to gain cummunity support back and bring miners back to the coin. The whole idea behind the coin was a revolution in crypto community, we should protect public from rouge and incompetent developers. How we do it? Your suggestions are very welcome. It was also suggested by leewilson to go beyond cryptocurrency world and have some sort of initiative to help to refugee children from war torn countries. We didn't discuss our goals much, just agreed that our vision is same as when it started. The future of the coin and it's direction is very important and should be discussed openly by the community. Your suggestions, points of view, agreements and disagreements are vital to the future of the coin, so please speak up.
SECONDARY QUESTION #1: What is everyone going to do now?
That's a hugely important question, but I'm calling it a secondary one because it's really not realistic to expect leewilson to have a good answer. Maybe he can give us some statistics regarding hashrates to show if that's changed much to indicate whether or not people are leaving, but that's about all he could do, if that.
That's a hugely important question, but I'm calling it a secondary one because it's really not realistic to expect leewilson to have a good answer. Maybe he can give us some statistics regarding hashrates to show if that's changed much to indicate whether or not people are leaving, but that's about all he could do, if that.
At the moment promotion is taking place. There are giveaways available, please check the OP. Since the OP has been updated the network hash rate went slightly up. At the time of writing it is about 29 Mhs, you can check block explorer at http://blockexplorer.revolutioncoin.org/ for live statistics. As I remember, this project was started as a community coin with no developers, and it equally should have no managers, so everyone is welcome to take part in developing and promoting the coin. We still do not have Mac or Android wallet, faucets have to be made as well. There is a lot of marketing to do, so if you can help in any way to make this coin a success, please speak up.
SECONDARY QUESTION #2: What actually happened in the past?
I would certainly like to know how this cabal formed originally and how it existed to take a vote that could have a majority and minority. Was it a formal vote or was it just handled informally? What were the questions being decided? These are just some of the questions I am curious about. I'm calling this secondary, though, because it's backwards-looking. The present and future are much more important than the details of the past. If answering this would delay answering the essential questions, it can be handled later.
I would certainly like to know how this cabal formed originally and how it existed to take a vote that could have a majority and minority. Was it a formal vote or was it just handled informally? What were the questions being decided? These are just some of the questions I am curious about. I'm calling this secondary, though, because it's backwards-looking. The present and future are much more important than the details of the past. If answering this would delay answering the essential questions, it can be handled later.
Please read above where I wrote about what happened on #crapples IRC channel. I hope that we will rejoin again and start working together. As I mentioned, only branding has changed, which needed to be done for the coin's best. Using Che's image without copyright holder permission would put this coin in the same basket with all other coins accused of copyright infringiment.
Majsta was on it transparent and you [lee] had pulled him everyday, now, you did it under the table for more days than him. This is nothing more than makeup!
Frangomel, your full post is addressed to lee, but let me answer some of it if you don't mind. It took us 3 days to rebrand a wallet and block explorer and create a new website, not more that it took majsta to build first wallet and a website. Under no circumstances I want to undermine majsta's effort and passion in developing this coin, but there were some disagreements over name change and the copyright. Majsta is welcome to continue working on the coin if he wishes to do so. Regardless of whether he decides to come back to the team or not, his name will be concreted in the coin's history as one of the activists and ideologists of the coin.
where is premine???
As far as I know, three users hold it at the moment: leewilson, adversor and EchoingUprise. I was told the amounts on IRC, but sadly can't remember them. I hope all three of them will post the amounts they have for transparency. Most of the premine will be used for giveaways and bounties. Leewilson has already started spending his part by posting giveaways, please see the OP.
