Topic: Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 87. (Read 96804 times)

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Stop trying to justify your fraud. I lost $1200 because of you. My only regret is not requesting a refund sooner.
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And that's the problem. They choose the option where the value is less, regardless of the exchange rate.
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So let me get this straight.. He sent BTC, wants a refund, but minersource is choosing to refund the USD amount. But when I got my refund, minersource chose to refund the same amount of Bitcoin instead of the USD equivalent. And you think this is fair? So minersource benefits regardless of the price of Bitcoin, because they'll choose to refund the option that benefits them every time.
I guess I was right in my presumption that had the price of Bitcoin gone up from when I purchased (BTC =$1167 when I paid), then they'd try to get me to accept less Bitcoins to coincide with the USD value, versus them forcing me to accept the same amount of coins, even though the value has fallen by half since then.

Like I said, they're having their cake and eating it too.
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Has anyone found an efficient way of getting refunded at a more immediate pace. Im getting tired of waiting and getting a refund after shipping as they offer now is just unacceptable. Has anyone outside of China been refunded recently?

You need to file a report at http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx and hopefully enough people file as well to create a case for the DOJ/FBI. Otherwise, I don't think so.

Is this an American only thing or international?

Unfortunately, only for minersuorce orders or if you are in the US.

See,

"Q: Can I file a complaint if I have been victimized by an individual or company in the United States, but I am not a citizen of the United States?

    If one of the two parties involved is located within the United States, please feel free to file a complaint."

If only I could file a complaint against you for wasting taxpayer resources with such a frivolous complaint. I know you said you ignored me, but for the benefit of everyone else.

1) you were offered a refund of the exact amount of dollars you paid.

2) you were offered to have the power supply shipped to you if you paid shipping.

3) You ordered a product that only said free shipping for customers who ordered an X1 or X3 through minersource, and when you were told you had to pay free shipping you threw a temper-tantrum and contacted the FBI and the FTC.

If that's the attitude you have - good luck with life, man. The hallmark of adulthood is taking responsibility for one's own decisions, and you seem to have failed to achieve that.

By the way, filing a false report to a federal agency, pursuant to title 31 of the United States Code, is punishable by a $10,000 fine. Here's hoping the system works.

Black Arrow's slogan: "We do not aim to make any profit"

How did I miss this? In the very first post no less. 

Looks like this is a non-profit organization. What a way to solicit donations.

The delay train is on track and ahead of schedule for the delivery of its mass shipment of network difficulty.

I thought this would be relevant for other Blackarrow/Minersource customers. However, you are probably right. No one has said anything positive about my comments. So, I will stop adding to this.

"We’re pleased to announce touch-down of the first batch of our new 20 nanometer Neptune processors. They are now going through the testing/tweaking/assembly stage in Sweden and shipping will commence this week." -- KnC


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"We have finalized 2 versions of the backplane which we will send to the factory tomorrow. Once the backplane is ready we can start shipping. We estimate that to be around the end of next week pending factory's schedule." -- Black Arrow

Is it true that customers who live behind the european curtain are looking at running a miner that could end up costing them money? How much life can they suck out of a customer?

Funny how the wording in part's of your post is just like that of the last email I received from Dan over at minersource  .

Minersource committed fraud when they took people's money under false pretenses to perpetuate BA's scam. X3 units do not exist at present and I highly doubt anyone will receive compensation units for X3s or X1s. There will be more delays and problems with the PCBs. My bet is Blackarrow will be filling for bankruptcy right after they ship a few X3s and before anyone receives a refund from them. Minersource is responsible for what they sell on their site. I don't want to hear any of this crap that it's BA fault. You decided to resell their non-existent equipment, no one forced you. I am in contact with Bitpay and the FTC. I will continue to pursue this to the fullest.  

But...But...There's no LCD, how will one ever configure it or know what they are running at?  BA "produces" luxury machines that the average bitcoiner just wouldn't understand.  Psh, it doesn't even come with a custom PSU, no wonder it got to market so quick.

Really? Who are you anyway?

By the way, they said they did not convert it to fiat. Instead, they use BA as a scape goat. Minersource said they sent the BTC to BA to pay for the PSUs.

They told me different before I ordered. Besides, why are defending them so much? Do you really think how they are handling this situation is okay?

The point is I did not buy something. They don't even have it.

Edit: I did contact them before buying and they said they would sent it out without charging for more shipping. Their message made it sound like the PSUs were in stock and would be shipped shortly. That was over a month ago.

They accepted 0.8028BTC under false pretenses for a product they do not even have. Why should they make money off the volatility in the BTC exchange rate? I should receive back the BTC I sent.

Unfortunately, I did on May 14. This is for the PSUs. I am beginning a separate process for a refund from BA.

Update: Minersource contacted me and said that I need to pay another $30 for shipping or get a refund based on a reduced amount of BTC because the exchange rate has changed. They said they don't even have the PSUs in stock despite listing them on their website as "in stock" over a month ago. I filed a complaint with the FTC and I am waiting for a response from Minersource. 

Anyone know which payment processing company they use, so I can contact them next?