Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 9.

BlowMeAlex

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Quote from: notbatman on March 19, 2015, 07:10:46 PM

Quote from: Gleb Gamow on March 19, 2015, 05:18:50 PM

Quote from: Gleb Gamow on March 19, 2015, 12:07:06 AM

http://s2.postimg.org/627jm01fd/1ba.jpg

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dirtanyon-481079

That's fuckin' interesting!

Theymos, may I suggest you change BA's thread to non-self-moderated, for it's now quite obvious that he's abusing the privileges, recently doing another clean sweep of posts.

http://s21.postimg.org/9kh7nav9j/1aba.jpg

Why the fuck is blackarrow so obsess with this user account?

According to Google's cache he's made 1 post that's apparently since been deleted. Based on your comments it's more than likely it was to a blackarrow self-moderated thread and that it was deleted by captain blackarrow himself. I'm not sure how you're able to see other users current activity but if the captain is spending all his time watching this user I suspect he's posted something that's got him worried...

Perhaps the mods could enlighten us as to the contents of the deleted message.

EDIT:

Found the who section. Grin

EDIT 2:

blackarrow now viewing Bitfinderson's profile, another new user with 0 posts...

Likely dipshit Alex viewing people's profiles to see what their posting history is.

it's likely that people have realized that Alex can use his little bot to block a user, but that creating another user is very doable.

And there are more of us than there are of him.

Fuck that piece of shit. He can continue to try to scrub the history of his scammy ass. I will continue posting the truth about what he and his crap ass company have done.

Yay, I've got 1 post! I wonder if Alex Sovu is viewing my profile now too.

If so, this is for you Alex: Take your Trezor ripoff device and go sell your asshole on the streets of Bangkok, you piece of crap. Black Arrow is done so I'd buy a nice big jar of vaseline and just assume the position.

greenlion

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There's definitely some kind of mental illness going on here, and it's regrettable that they have our personal information and everything, because there's a really good chance these are some really dangerous people.

heslo

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Quote from: ElGrandJefe on March 22, 2015, 12:37:21 PM

I'd call these people unmitigated cunts, but it would give unmitigated cunts a bad name.

They are a flea on a pimple on a wart on an abscess on the anal sphincter of the Internet.

Don't say that! Cunts are useful!!!

notbatman

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Only one week to go until BA destroys my miners instead of shipping me these worthless door-stops. This could be the first promise they keep but I suspect they'll just sell 'em to somebody with cheap/free power.

Also If you're the lucky ~~chump~~ customer who gets some of the miners from all the "bad" customers be sure and keep a fire extinguisher handy, as BA has a bad habit of burning everybody they do business with!

ElGrandJefe

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I'd call these people unmitigated cunts, but it would give unmitigated cunts a bad name.

They are a flea on a pimple on a wart on an abscess on the anal sphincter of the Internet.

greenlion

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An oldie but a goodie, deleted from the main thread, showing what kind of deranged fuck we're dealing with here.

Bicknellski

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on March 20, 2015, 05:35:37 PM

Quote from: psyclone on March 20, 2015, 07:16:40 AM

They first sent me a mail yesterday after almost one year and told me that they will ship me tha miner and if i don't reply by the end of march they will "destroy" the miner. In the last mail in May I asked for a refund and they told me they will send my money back, but no money. Look at the last mail after i told them i want the refund i asked for and not their useless miner

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Dear Customer

I'm sorry to have to inform you that at this point in time all refund requests are declined as per paragraph 11.3 of our agreed terms and conditions (http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/legal.html). The money that we have received from you and other customers have been used to pay for parts and labour, as agreed in our contract. More than this we cannot unmake a product that has been completed and we cannot sell it for you due to low demand of this product.

Please note that:

All pre-order equipment has been in stock since end of December / beginning of January. Since then we have been contacting every pre-order customer via email to confirm their addresses in order to ship their merchandise. As we cannot store the miners indefinitely, back then we have set a 3 months storage deadline after which we would dispose of customer's equipment.

As we get closer to the 3 months deadline, we are urging all pre-order customers that have yet to receive their order to contact us via email so we can ship their merchandise.

Warning: Failure to contact us by end of March 2015, will result in destruction of your equipment!

We are really sorry that the things did not went as we planned. We have been struggling to get this contract to an end due to some mistakes we've made in development, various third parties failures and because we have rushed a huge number of orders into production which have failed due to insufficient testing, resulting in way higher costs that we've anticipated. At this point we have already put in our own money in order to complete the orders and all we can do is to honor your order as placed. We are developing a cheaper product to honor the promised compensation and try to offer you a cheaper hosting that you might have at home. Please accept our sincere apologies for the delay. Rest assured that we are and have been doing everything humanly possible to get this contract completed. Should we ever recover we'll try to give back to our valued customers as much as we can.

Understanding your dismay due to the various causes of delay, but your refusal to receive your order will either lead to the destruction of your goods, or we might accept it as gift to us and send it to other customer. In any case, we will NOT issue you with any refund and our contract will be deemed as fulfilled. Please note, that we will refuse DHL to return your package. Should you choose to let DHL destroy it, that is your option; it is your merchandise, you can do whatever you want with it (as long it is for legal purposes only). If you want to give it to us as a gift, please let us know and we'll inform DHL to deliver to another customer. Warning: If you choose to take no action and your package will stay with DHL until they will destroy it.

This ticket will now close and will reopen when you reply to it. Please do not open new tickets in our system

Regards,
Black Arrow Team

Please note that all our sales, services and communications are subject to our terms and conditions and your reply to this email will be considered an agreement to our terms and conditions from this webpage: http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/legal.html

Confidentiality Notice:
This communication, its content and any file attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential proprietary information. Access by any other party without the express written permission of the sender is unauthorised. If you have received this communication in error you may not copy, distribute or use the contents, attachments or information in any way. Please destroy it and contact the sender.

Variants of the above letter have been making the round since early December, 2014, if not sooner.

One thing that stands out is that an American penned it and not Dr. Sovu. That said, which one of you fuckin' Americans is helping Black Arrow in this obvious scam of theirs?

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Rest assured that we are and have been doing everything humanly possible to get this contract completed. Should we ever recover we'll try to give back to our valued customers as much as we can, predicated upon how long we can keep our dicks hard while we continue to fuck them in their asses.

Are they in the WESTERN US?

That be my guess.

Gleb Gamow

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Quote from: psyclone on March 20, 2015, 07:16:40 AM

They first sent me a mail yesterday after almost one year and told me that they will ship me tha miner and if i don't reply by the end of march they will "destroy" the miner. In the last mail in May I asked for a refund and they told me they will send my money back, but no money. Look at the last mail after i told them i want the refund i asked for and not their useless miner

Quote

Dear Customer

I'm sorry to have to inform you that at this point in time all refund requests are declined as per paragraph 11.3 of our agreed terms and conditions (http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/legal.html). The money that we have received from you and other customers have been used to pay for parts and labour, as agreed in our contract. More than this we cannot unmake a product that has been completed and we cannot sell it for you due to low demand of this product.

Please note that:

All pre-order equipment has been in stock since end of December / beginning of January. Since then we have been contacting every pre-order customer via email to confirm their addresses in order to ship their merchandise. As we cannot store the miners indefinitely, back then we have set a 3 months storage deadline after which we would dispose of customer's equipment.

As we get closer to the 3 months deadline, we are urging all pre-order customers that have yet to receive their order to contact us via email so we can ship their merchandise.

Warning: Failure to contact us by end of March 2015, will result in destruction of your equipment!

We are really sorry that the things did not went as we planned. We have been struggling to get this contract to an end due to some mistakes we've made in development, various third parties failures and because we have rushed a huge number of orders into production which have failed due to insufficient testing, resulting in way higher costs that we've anticipated. At this point we have already put in our own money in order to complete the orders and all we can do is to honor your order as placed. We are developing a cheaper product to honor the promised compensation and try to offer you a cheaper hosting that you might have at home. Please accept our sincere apologies for the delay. Rest assured that we are and have been doing everything humanly possible to get this contract completed. Should we ever recover we'll try to give back to our valued customers as much as we can.

Understanding your dismay due to the various causes of delay, but your refusal to receive your order will either lead to the destruction of your goods, or we might accept it as gift to us and send it to other customer. In any case, we will NOT issue you with any refund and our contract will be deemed as fulfilled. Please note, that we will refuse DHL to return your package. Should you choose to let DHL destroy it, that is your option; it is your merchandise, you can do whatever you want with it (as long it is for legal purposes only). If you want to give it to us as a gift, please let us know and we'll inform DHL to deliver to another customer. Warning: If you choose to take no action and your package will stay with DHL until they will destroy it.

This ticket will now close and will reopen when you reply to it. Please do not open new tickets in our system

Regards,
Black Arrow Team

Please note that all our sales, services and communications are subject to our terms and conditions and your reply to this email will be considered an agreement to our terms and conditions from this webpage: http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/legal.html

Confidentiality Notice:
This communication, its content and any file attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential proprietary information. Access by any other party without the express written permission of the sender is unauthorised. If you have received this communication in error you may not copy, distribute or use the contents, attachments or information in any way. Please destroy it and contact the sender.

Variants of the above letter have been making the round since early December, 2014, if not sooner.

One thing that stands out is that an American penned it and not Dr. Sovu. That said, which one of you fuckin' Americans is helping Black Arrow in this obvious scam of theirs?

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Rest assured that we are and have been doing everything humanly possible to get this contract completed. Should we ever recover we'll try to give back to our valued customers as much as we can, predicated upon how long we can keep our dicks hard while we continue to fuck them in their asses.

Bicknellski

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You would think that the mainland authorities in China would be interested in arresting people like this using cover to hide their fraud. Have they been reported to the authorities in China? Provincially?

notbatman

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on March 19, 2015, 05:18:50 PM

Quote from: Gleb Gamow on March 19, 2015, 12:07:06 AM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dirtanyon-481079

That's fuckin' interesting!

Theymos, may I suggest you change BA's thread to non-self-moderated, for it's now quite obvious that he's abusing the privileges, recently doing another clean sweep of posts.

Why the fuck is blackarrow so obsess with this user account?

According to Google's cache he's made 1 post that's apparently since been deleted. Based on your comments it's more than likely it was to a blackarrow self-moderated thread and that it was deleted by captain blackarrow himself. I'm not sure how you're able to see other users current activity but if the captain is spending all his time watching this user I suspect he's posted something that's got him worried...

Perhaps the mods could enlighten us as to the contents of the deleted message.

EDIT:

Found the who section. Grin

EDIT 2:

blackarrow now viewing Bitfinderson's profile, another new user with 0 posts...

Gleb Gamow

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on March 19, 2015, 12:07:06 AM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dirtanyon-481079

That's fuckin' interesting!

Theymos, may I suggest you change BA's thread to non-self-moderated, for it's now quite obvious that he's abusing the privileges, recently doing another clean sweep of posts.

Why the fuck is blackarrow so obsess with this user account?

Gleb Gamow

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dirtanyon-481079

That's fuckin' interesting!

Theymos, may I suggest you change BA's thread to non-self-moderated, for it's now quite obvious that he's abusing the privileges, recently doing another clean sweep of posts.

notbatman

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A quote from Black Arrow's ToS as they love to quote it as the reason they get to keep customers money without providing anything of value in exchange: "16.2 1 This Agreement shall be interpreted and applied in accordance with the law of Hong Kong S.A.R. of PRC."

Lets revisit how BA is complying with consumer protection law:

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Law of the People's Republic of China on the Protection of Consumer Rights and InterestsChapter VII Legal Responsibility

Article 40 Business operators shall, if the commodities and services they supply involve any of the following circumstances, bear civil liability in accordance
with the provisions of the Law of the People's Republic of China on Product Quality and other relevant laws and regulations, except as otherwise provided in the present Law:

(1) there existing defects in the commodities;

(2) not possessing the properties for use they should possess and no declaration thereabout is made at the time of sale;

(3) not conforming to the standards indicated on the commodities or on the packaging thereof;

(4) not conforming to the state of quality indicated by the product description or by physical samples;

(5) producing commodities that have been formally declared by the State to be eliminated or selling commodities that are no longer effective or deteriorated;

(6) commodities sold being short of weight or quantity;

(7) contents and costs of services being not in conformity with the agreements;

(8) deliberately delaying or unreasonably refusing consumers requests for repair, remanufacture, replacement, return of goods, makeup for the short commodities, return of payment for goods or services, or compensation for losses;

1. Numerous reports of fires, explosions, electrical leakage and DoA units. ✔

2. Promised to deliver product within a time-frame that would allow the consumer to mine profitably; units delivered between 6 months to a year late or not at all. ✔

3. Falsified CE certification by placing "Chinese Export" labeling in order to deceive customers and customs officials. ✔

4. Claimed customers would be able to mine reliably yet numerous reports from customers claim the machines malfunction on a regular basis. ✔

5. No machines were shipped until the cost of electricity made them ineffective and obsolete for the purposes of mining digital-currency. ✔

6. Machines shipped to customers if they were lucky enough to receive a unit at all were decreased in value by at least 90%. ✔

7. Customers who ordered rent-a-minion service instead of hardware have yet to receive any service other than a few cases where a small fraction of the Bitcoins used to pay for their order were sent back with the claim they were mined. ✔

8. Deliberately delayed shipment of machines to mine digital-currency into their own wallets, refused to provide promised compensation, made customers pay S&H costs on RMA and have refused all refunds. ✔

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Quote from: greenlion on March 17, 2015, 11:38:24 PM

Quote from: Pentax on March 17, 2015, 11:26:00 PM

What happened to the trust rating for these people. All trusted feedback left for them seems to have been taken down.

I vaguely remember there was one user on the default trust list who left them negative feedback, but that user appears to no longer be. I think it was the guy that Blackarrow doxxed through the system.

There were a couple of users at least I'm fairly sure. I still see their feedback in their accounts and in the 'untrusted' for blackarrow....

greenlion

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Quote from: Pentax on March 17, 2015, 11:26:00 PM

What happened to the trust rating for these people. All trusted feedback left for them seems to have been taken down.

I vaguely remember there was one user on the default trust list who left them negative feedback, but that user appears to no longer be. I think it was the guy that Blackarrow doxxed through the system.

Pentax

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What happened to the trust rating for these people. All trusted feedback left for them seems to have been taken down.

jobelz

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Yes, exactly that (and in this thread even, I'm ashamed). Thank you, I'll add some things and include it in my reply to the HK CC

notbatman

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Quote from: jobelz on March 17, 2015, 01:43:55 PM

Does anyone have the timeline of their shenanigans that someone compiled? I remember seeing a post some time ago but I can't seem to find it anywhere (maybe it was on ecointalk, not sure any more). With all the deleting that's been going on it could have been anywhere...

This timeline I posted is far from complete but perhaps it's what you're referring to. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10582841

jobelz

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Does anyone have the timeline of their shenanigans that someone compiled? I remember seeing a post some time ago but I can't seem to find it anywhere (maybe it was on ecointalk, not sure any more). With all the deleting that's been going on it could have been anywhere...

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Get Paid Crypto To Walk or Drive

I will not quote your post to save on walls of texts, but I think the best thing to send back is that it is ILLEGAL TO NOT REFUND MONEY. lol. Regardless of what terms or what not the company writes on their website, the FEDERAL LAW, which takes precedence over scamming companies, says that it is illegal.

Refer to the BFL case where the FTC ordered BFL to start immediately refunding everyone in their queue who asked for it.

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