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Topic: Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 95. (Read 96804 times)

legendary
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Order no. 3# reporting in.

From: http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/terms-and-conditions-en.html#purchase

15.4 Miscellaneous
You agree and we agree to waive, to the maximum extent permitted by law, any right to a jury trial with respect to any dispute and all disputes will be resolved through binding arbitration. Because this waiver may not be effective in some jurisdictions, this waiver may not apply to you. You acknowledge that you have read this agreement, that you understand it, that you agree to be bound by its terms, and that this is the complete and exclusive statement of the agreement between you and us regarding the Hardware and Software.

Also worth a look is:
Force Majeure
13.1 We are exempted from fulfilling its obligations under this Sales Agreement and is entitled to cancel the Purchaser’s confirmed orders without any liability, in the event of force majeure such as strikes, floods and fires, wars, riots, interruptions in transport, shortage of material or energy sources affecting Our or Our sub-suppliers, accidents or other occurrences which affects sub-suppliers’ production, bankruptcy or compulsory liquidation of a sub-supplier, accidents of any kind, governmental decisions which affects manufacturing or use of the Products and, in general, such events that were unforeseen at the time of the order which prevents or hinder manufacturing, transportation or delivery of the Products to the Purchaser.

Not stirring, just informing those who hadn't bothered to read the T's and C's.

I'm getting a but tired of the continual 'next week' updates. But all we can do is wait

The February 24th shipping date was a lie and you can't base a contract on a lie; the TOS are null and void.
legendary
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With nothing but lies and empty promises coming from Black Arrow does anybody still believe this isn't a scam?
legendary
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Bobsag, can you comment as to whether your X-1 arrived and is working properly? Some more pictures and video would be appreciated.

Has not arrived yet, given the holiday in China im not expecting it till tomorrow/wednesday.

Do you have a tracking number?
legendary
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Bobsag, can you comment as to whether your X-1 arrived and is working properly? Some more pictures and video would be appreciated.
legendary
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"Mass production in under way and shipping will start from the beginning of next week." -- BA

So did anybody get shipment tracking numbers for their X-1s?

Nothing as usual :/

"Mass production in under way and shipping will start from the beginning of next week." -- BA

So if this statement is a lie not to mention grammatically incorrect then is it not also reasonable to assume the following statement is also a lie?

"There are no Prospero miners X1 or X3 which are hashing on any of our facilities." -- BA

legendary
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"Mass production in under way and shipping will start from the beginning of next week." -- BA

So did anybody get shipment tracking numbers for their X-1s?
legendary
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Does anyone know who ordered Minion chips?  They should have tracking codes or the chips themselves by now?
thechnobit

how long before they offer the assembly?
legendary
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The first e-mail I got from Black Arrow was in late November confirming they received my money and that my order would be dispatched on the 24th of  February 2014.

The second e-mail I got was in December and it wished me a merry Christmas.

The third and last e-mail I got was in January and stated that my order would be dispatched on the 30th of April 2014.

Happy New Year

member
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They're not going to refund u as they are 'in production'  Angry

That's not what my order status says!  Status = Processed, order 1##1



legendary
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i have like a presentiment that is the last week and shipments will begin around next week !
to be serious for a moment the official and unofficials teams (china, US, europe) are in the process of finding the right solutions for everyone
besides the issues with x3 backplane i think it there's other things to take into consideration for others of us like getting a plug'n'play product, the hosting platforme, the refunds, re-sellers program ....
all that just to reflect and give good vibes to the staffs and costumers and STOP with ur conspiracies about alex and the people of eastern europe!

Achraf Bouzidi

If it's not a conspiracy then WHERE'S MY FUCKING MONEY?
legendary
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That would involve lots of coordination. Who do you think could manage such a level of deceit?

Steve

Whoever "they" are they cast a wide enough net that I was gaurenteed to lose no matter what choice I made in late November.

I had originally intended to get Bitfurries but the bank put hold on my cash for an extended period of time. By the time it cleared not a single supplier had any stock left. I decided on a pre-order from what appeared to be reputable company.
legendary
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So the update stated nothing other than one lucky customer got a makeshift prototype X-1. Hashfast shipped at least 3 units... Making BA fall somewhere in between them and BFL.

I'm thinking all these pre-orders are an organized scam to squeeze the small players out of the ASIC game by leaving them with massive financial losses and a bad taste in their mouths.
hero member
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I posted a link to the documents but it got deleted by Blackarrow. I reposted it in the scam accusations thread by the user 'notbatman'.

Let's see if _this_ post gets deleted too..
legendary
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Woohoo! Finally received my refund from minersource. THANK YOU!!!

What did you originally pay in?  What was given?  Was it the same number of btc as you paid or was it adjusted to current prices?
legendary
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Latest pictures:

http://ecointalk.net/gallery/image/379-img-3352-resize/

Includes hashing unit pictures. I have my first unit on its way to me as well.
I admit they are pretty. Although, I seem to remember their product page saying they would include standoffs for stacking?  Now checking the page, that is gone and these unit do not seem to be able to be stackable?  Does anyone else remember this claim?  How the heck are we supposed to organize 10 to 20+ of these things if they don't stack?
legendary
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so no compensation notes.  What will happen to those people who get X-1's without LCD's before the control board is ready?  Will they get extra extra compensation, or will the right components eventually be sent?

EDIT: Also nothing about the surprise.

Congrats on shipping though.  This turmoil is finally making moves in the right direction, it is unfortunate that your terms for those who will be getting products different than advertised is not clear.
legendary
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So lets make a bet, I bet .0001 that there is a software issue with the X-1's. Anyone willing to bet otherwise?

is the bet null and void if X-1's never actually exist? (you would be betting against the state of a non-existent product)

I suspect we're all in it for the hashing power; speculating on the success of something already successful is a good bet.

The question here is are we dealing with bad actors?
hero member
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I have just received documents with a lot of info about the director of BA. The company is actually registered in Hong Kong not inland PRC which makes it much easier to chase it legally. The owner is Romanian living in UK. From all the info related to director it seems that the company may be highly suspicious. If things won't get clarified shipping/refund wise within next to weeks that would make it pretty obvious it is a well designed scam... I won't post more info here because I don't want to get censored :-)
It's already public info:
http://www.kiwi.nz/blackarrow/
sr. member
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just call the police in berkshire. let them deal with it. do it ASAP.
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