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Quote from: bluemeanie1 on October 05, 2014, 12:48:48 PM

Just want to note here briefly the NXT project and jl777 have been embroiled in scandals lately and possibly even a lawsuit.

I had recently contacted New York Department of Financial Services regarding them. Ive made a truly insane number of misleading posts.

Also the cryptocurrency promoter Edwardo DeMeon Tickman was outed as a shareholder in SuperNet.

Joshua....don't wanna blow your tiny little mind, but lots of people hold SuperNET, including me.
Is this evidence of a world wide Reptilian conspiracy using crypto to sap the vital juices of human males ?

The truth about Joshua Zeidner

Ha, this SEO game is fun....

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Quote from: bluemeanie1 on October 05, 2014, 12:48:48 PM

Just want to note here briefly the NXT project and jl777 have been embroiled in scandals lately and possibly even a lawsuit.

I had recently contacted New York Department of Financial Services regarding them. Ive made a number of submissions to this site recently regarding them.

Also the cryptocurrency promoter Edward DeLeon Hickman was outed as a shareholder in SuperNet.

Quote from: SZZT on October 05, 2014, 12:39:12 PM

People, dont forget moneroman88 = bluemeanie1 = Joshua zeidner

The moneroman88 persona has been used extensively for FUD circulation and posting.
Joshua is a well known scammer and thief, now turned to a self appointed crusader to "end all crypto"

Quote from: Katala on October 03, 2014, 02:46:50 PM

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Quote from: Moneroman88 on September 15, 2014, 09:19:56 AM

Quote from: Este Nuno on September 15, 2014, 09:10:44 AM

One thing I want to point out quickly regarding the chance that jl777 is pulling some sort of scam(I posted something similar in another thread):

The superNET funds are going to be held in distributed escrow. And it's actually worked out right now, due to the quickness of the launch that James currently holds a very large amount of NXT. And this amount of money is currently more then he's ever likely to hold again during the course of the project.

Complete bullshit, jl777 has now collected over 27000000 NXT (that's 2100 BTC or over 1 MILLION US DOLLARS) from selling the shady TOKEN assets in his NXT account to that only he, I repeat, ONLY HE HIMSELF has access.

http://www.nxtreporting.com/?ac=NXT-MRBN-8DFH-PFMK-A4DBM

He has this amount and can run away at any given time, unexpectedly and suddenly. Don't dare to state fairytales. He said his aim is 10000 BTC so don't expect him to run away before that date (I don't). *Mark my words*, once 10k BTC is full jl777 is going to be *vanished*. You SuperNET cult members will all cry like little babies then mourning for your losses that will never come back because the smart one took it. Do people ever learn? Do they ever learn? It's horrendous...

Quote from: Moneroman88 on September 15, 2014, 09:13:33 AM

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So many NxT people trust jl777, but ask your self why ?

They do trust jl777 and Nxt because that's what Nxt is all about - *draining money of poor investors for their own financial benefit*. That's the very core essence of the SuperNET and jl777 admitted this several times on his own. It is very shady for sure and the scale of this hoax is remarkable. jL777 undoubtedly is a very smart fellow, my respect for the intellectual part of it. But morally totally and entirely unacceptable by any possible measure.

Quote from: Moneroman88 on September 15, 2014, 09:00:39 AM

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It amazes me to understand how people can make up conclusion about something they not even took their time or researched what a escrow is. He can't run away with all the BTC because he don't have them.

This is like saying that Etherum people would run away with the BTC their got even tho they didn't used a escrow i think people behind those projects really have more inside their brain then to steal people Bitcoins.

Complete bullshit, the scammer jl777 has over 27000000 NXT (that's 2100 BTC or 1 MILLION US DOLLARS) from selling those TOKEN assets in his NXT account to that only he, I repeat, ONLY HE HIMSELF has access.

http://www.nxtreporting.com/?ac=NXT-MRBN-8DFH-PFMK-A4DBM

He has this amount and can run away at anytime. He said his aim is 10000 BTC so don't expect him to run away before that date. Mark my words, once 10k BTC is full jl777 is going to be vanished. You guys will all cry like little babies then mourning for your losses that will never come back because the smart one took it. People never learn. If you don't believe then you'll have to feel, it was your brainless decision after all.

Quote from: Moneroman88 on September 13, 2014, 01:48:42 PM

Quote from: From Above on September 13, 2014, 01:36:22 PM

Burn in hell with all ur moronic threads

~CfA~

You're just a NXT-shill, I don't even take you serious. All you really are is a piece of shit supporting the NXT AE scams pull-off promoted by jl777.

MONEROMAN, OP OF jl777 asset scammer EXPOSED . . . buy XMR instead (real future):

Quote from: Moneroman88 on September 13, 2014, 01:30:21 PM

good summary:

Quote from: Skinnkavaj on September 13, 2014, 12:51:59 PM

jl777 seems to be a really smart thief. Stealing from his investor of all assets he hold.
I am glad I am on the "good" side. The only thing rpietila is pumping is Monero, nothing else from what I can tell by any of his post. He is not advocating any other altcoin, while this jl777 have 50 different pumps going on probably where he hold everything. It's like he built 50 castles of promises, while rpietila have 1 castle promoting financial privacy.

How easy it is to make money once you have a reputation. jl777 is going to take over the world (atleast he thinks) by having people buy all his crap assets. Compare BTCD, is it even working? Is the tech good? Are many people actively working on it? By my study, by going to check out the IRC channels I see nothing happening in #bitcoindark, around 21 people here, while there is 100+ in #monero-dev including core bitcoin developers.

The reason why Bitcoin Core developers is in #monero-dev and not #bitcoindark or #darkcoin? You should be able to read between my lines, but I will tell you right here, it is probably because the anonymity tech provided is really good.

Now with so many people believing in this crazy baseless hype - don't lose sight of the real crypto future: Monero

Don't lose your hard earned money with this JLH crap guys. Monero doesn't need this jl777 asset scamming scheme. Monero already is by far the number one, technology-wise, community-wise, best coin hands down number one above all / except the price that's gonna follow gradually. If you want a lot of money (you probably do) and become a millionaire along the line (you probably want that) buy Monero while it is cheap as fuck. It's hands down the best possible coin, even Bitcoin is nothing against Monero. We have real privacy and real developers, world adoption imminent. All other altcoins are scams at their best and just outright ridiculously crappy. Needless to say if you invest in other coins you will lose your invested money whereas you will be rich buying Monero. This is the very law of success.

Everyone can become multimillionaire with Monero, I'd argue 1-2 BTC investment is enough to become millionaire through XMR. And the best about it is that you won't have to convert to FIAT because it will be accepted all over the world within 5 years. Yes you read that right, even your mother will use it. No matter where, Monero will be all around the world payable via NFC.

Don't put your faith in JL777's asset scamming through NXT, buy in a real coin a real community the real future instead and be on the safe side.

Quote from: Moneroman88 on September 13, 2014, 04:31:46 PM

holy smack I LUV Bryce Weiner, he's a fucking fat moron but he sure as fuck puts the right badass message across. SuperNET is a scam by known scammer jl777... who fucking cares about if explanation is right or not. scam is scam I don't care how Bryce Weiner argues as long as the result is the right one: jl777 is a scammer and superNET is a NXT insider scam profiting on you guys endless greed. Bryce Weiner thanks again for your fucking efforts you filthy son of a bitch

Again, and again, gals you got scammed hard and harder by JL, my condolences. Here's the cold truth and reality about JL777: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8807178

Return the stolen funds joshua
http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt

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bluemeanie

Just want to note here briefly the NXT project and jl777 have been embroiled in scandals lately and possibly even a lawsuit.

I had recently contacted New York Department of Financial Services regarding them. Ive made a number of submissions to this site recently regarding them.

Also the cryptocurrency promoter Edward DeLeon Hickman was outed as a shareholder in SuperNet.

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Quote from: Yeni78 on September 24, 2014, 07:43:11 PM

Quote from: Este Nuno on September 24, 2014, 04:32:20 PM

Quote from: Yeni78 on September 24, 2014, 03:07:32 PM

Great thread, I thought this sounded fishy from the start but now it all makes sense.

Will the average user profit from Supernet? Possibly.
Will JL777? Most certainly.

He only really profits if the share holders profit though. His bonus structure is based on him multiplying the price by either 3x or 10x. Otherwise this is actually a massive net loss for him.

So I think you got that wrong.

Somehow I doubt that.

Ok?

Have you read the agreement that was just voted on by shareholders? That's what the agreement was.

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Quote from: Este Nuno on September 24, 2014, 04:32:20 PM

Quote from: Yeni78 on September 24, 2014, 03:07:32 PM

Great thread, I thought this sounded fishy from the start but now it all makes sense.

Will the average user profit from Supernet? Possibly.
Will JL777? Most certainly.

He only really profits if the share holders profit though. His bonus structure is based on him multiplying the price by either 3x or 10x. Otherwise this is actually a massive net loss for him.

So I think you got that wrong.

Somehow I doubt that.

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Quote from: Yeni78 on September 24, 2014, 03:07:32 PM

Great thread, I thought this sounded fishy from the start but now it all makes sense.

Will the average user profit from Supernet? Possibly.
Will JL777? Most certainly.

He only really profits if the share holders profit though. His bonus structure is based on him multiplying the price by either 3x or 10x. Otherwise this is actually a massive net loss for him.

So I think you got that wrong.

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Quote from: positivehigh on September 24, 2014, 01:05:46 PM

Yeah i understand that its a share but for example if theres a 100 dollar earning then theres a 50 token then they will divide it to 50 but because theres no limit of the token then the 50 can become 10k or more so the dividens will become much lower. Please help me to understand. thank you

The amount of TOKEN was only unlimited during the ICO. Now that the ICO is over the amount of TOKEN(which will be converted to UNITY 1:1) is limited.

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Great thread, I thought this sounded fishy from the start but now it all makes sense.

Will the average user profit from Supernet? Possibly.
Will JL777? Most certainly.

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Quote from: positivehigh on September 24, 2014, 01:05:46 PM

Yeah i understand that its a share but for example if theres a 100 dollar earning then theres a 50 token then they will divide it to 50 but because theres no limit of the token then the 50 can become 10k or more so the dividens will become much lower. Please help me to understand. thank you

There are ~800k tokens or so in the available supply. Look in the SuperNet own thread to see the exact number.

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Yeah i understand that its a share but for example if theres a 100 dollar earning then theres a 50 token then they will divide it to 50 but because theres no limit of the token then the 50 can become 10k or more so the dividens will become much lower. Please help me to understand. thank you

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Quote from: OrientA on September 24, 2014, 06:35:38 AM

Quote from: positivehigh on September 24, 2014, 06:24:19 AM

So if its not limited then the price wont go high and if its all about having some percent from the earning of supernet then the dividends will also too small because of the unlimited buyer of the token? I'm sorry if i didnt understand clearly the supernet.

Supernet is not just a coin. It is a kind of close end investment fund. if the initial investment amount is high, the earning might also be high.

SuperNET isn't a coin at all in fact. There is no superNET cryptocurrency, only the asset which holders can trade and receive dividends from.

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Quote from: positivehigh on September 24, 2014, 06:24:19 AM

So if its not limited then the price wont go high and if its all about having some percent from the earning of supernet then the dividends will also too small because of the unlimited buyer of the token? I'm sorry if i didnt understand clearly the supernet.

The sales are over so it's now limited. How ever many were bought is the amount of shares that there will be.

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Quote from: positivehigh on September 24, 2014, 06:24:19 AM

So if its not limited then the price wont go high and if its all about having some percent from the earning of supernet then the dividends will also too small because of the unlimited buyer of the token? I'm sorry if i didnt understand clearly the supernet.

Supernet is not just a coin. It is a kind of close end investment fund. if the initial investment amount is high, the earning might also be high.

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So if its not limited then the price wont go high and if its all about having some percent from the earning of supernet then the dividends will also too small because of the unlimited buyer of the token? I'm sorry if i didnt understand clearly the supernet.

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Quote from: positivehigh on September 22, 2014, 11:10:12 PM

Can someone tell me how many is the limit supply of supernet token?

The supply is not limited. The ICO should finish when the daily intake is less than 3% of existing total intake.

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Good question.....SuperNET tokens are not limited, but the ICO is ending TODAY, round 14.00 GMT.
So there will be TOKEN available on both BTER and the NXT AE until then.

Or wait to see what happens to the price after ICO closes, but I have a feeling it's gonna remain fairly stable.

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Can someone tell me how many is the limit supply of supernet token?

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Quote from: supranetico on September 22, 2014, 06:12:59 AM

Again like many things said in this thread solely your opinion - long term returns etc.

Well, I don't want to sound like an arrogant wanker, (probably will, though) but so far I'm very happy with the investment choices that I've made over the last year.
So far the only crypto I've actually lost any serious amount on has been BTC, I'm pretty good at spotting opportunities, and have managed to not get badly scammed/burned yet (except for 0.1 BTC of assorted crapcoins on CryptoRush.....bye bye!). So, I trust my own opinion/intuition, and am putting my money where my mouth is.....

Quote from: supranetico on September 22, 2014, 06:12:59 AM

Well for things to become a killer app they need to be noob friendly. Unfortunately for crypto majority of things don't even come close. Given that supernet explanation is confusing (or as some supernet supporters say - you don't understand jl777 vision), I don't see it becoming killer app (IMO Wink

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Yep...n00b friendly is nice. Hopefully, as SuperNET/Unity develops, most of the complicated stuff can be hidden 'under the hood', letting people concentrate on the functionality and use. Good software development always takes time, but SuperNET definitely has the resources to create something amazing.

I don't see how SuperNET can be all that confusing (unless you try to follow jl777's complete asset and funding structure Shocked

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SuperNET is a very simple base concept: take a selection of the best alt-coins and join them together. The result is a system that can offer a wide range of functionality from within one interface, and the synergistic effects of pooling resources benefits all currencies in the system. We all win.....

Anyhow...SuperNet ICO is about to close, and the UNITY assets will be issued towards the end of the week:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8916442
So, yeah, let the games begin !

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Quote from: EvilDave on September 21, 2014, 04:45:31 PM

Yep, there are far, far, worse things out there than SuperNET.

That was not meant as a praise Grin

Quote from: EvilDave on September 21, 2014, 04:45:31 PM

Couple of other points....I don't really see SuperNET as an 'exit strategy' for NXT whales. SuperNET is going to bring a lot of extra services and traffic into the NXT eco-system, so holding either NXT or SuperNET will give good returns over the long term. Never forget that NXT (and SuperNET) are not about short term pump 'n' dump action, but about building stuff for the long term. NXT is barely a year old, and is very, very successful so far, so I don't think any whales are looking to exit just yet.

Just in case some of you guys haven't seen this yet, this diagram gives you an idea of what SuperNET is going to become.

Again like many things said in this thread solely your opinion - long term returns etc.

Quote from: EvilDave on September 21, 2014, 04:45:31 PM

I am pretty sure that jl777 can pull this off (he's already got a massive team of devs/helpers from all the SuperNET communities helping out, btw) so the only question I'm asking myself (and others) is whether this will be the 'killer app' that finally takes crypto mainstream, or just a very cool system of united alt-coins ?

Either way, I'm prepared to put about 10% of my net crypto worth into it, and then see what happens......

Well for things to become a killer app they need to be noob friendly. Unfortunately for crypto majority of things don't even come close. Given that supernet explanation is confusing (or as some supernet supporters say - you don't understand jl777 vision), I don't see it becoming killer app (IMO Wink

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Yep, there are far, far, worse things out there than SuperNET.

Couple of other points....I don't really see SuperNET as an 'exit strategy' for NXT whales. SuperNET is going to bring a lot of extra services and traffic into the NXT eco-system, so holding either NXT or SuperNET will give good returns over the long term. Never forget that NXT (and SuperNET) are not about short term pump 'n' dump action, but about building stuff for the long term. NXT is barely a year old, and is very, very successful so far, so I don't think any whales are looking to exit just yet.

Just in case some of you guys haven't seen this yet, this diagram gives you an idea of what SuperNET is going to become.
I am pretty sure that jl777 can pull this off (he's already got a massive team of devs/helpers from all the SuperNET communities helping out, btw) so the only question I'm asking myself (and others) is whether this will be the 'killer app' that finally takes crypto mainstream, or just a very cool system of united alt-coins ?

Either way, I'm prepared to put about 10% of my net crypto worth into it, and then see what happens......

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