Sure I wish I owned both BTCD and BBR, but that doesn't make the gains in sharkfund0 an less true. Obviously the whole point of investing in something like sharkfund0 is to delegate the investing decisions and distribute risk. I wish I could just pick whatever stock goes up in the Dow Jones rather than just investing in the index too.
I don't own any jl777 related coins or assets so I'm not biased from any financial perspective. I try to look at the situation objectively. I like the idea behind superNET though as I think I've made clear. I think if it works out it's potentially a game changer for alternative currencies.
If you feel that someone saying "at least attempt to tell the truth" is equivalent to directly calling someone a liar then that's fine. My intention when writing that wasn't to brand you as some sort of serial liar, but it thought it was very suspicious that you had been researching all of this superNET stuff and happened to miss that part. But I thought we established that you didn't mean to intentionally mislead, so there's not much point in discussing it further.
Ok lets see if we can do this without the name calling.
First of all, gains in sharkfund0?
I don't think you fully grasp the situation. Here's the figure - 10k was issued. Total bought? 10k - 8617.8186 = 1382 were only sold ie 14% of the issue sold (a grand total of 3 asset sold since I posted the op). Out of the sold portion, 38% is held by jl777 himself (forget the what was held by NXTVenture - another 25%). If thats not a failure of an issues I don't know what is. I think it will make a much merrier picture if we can find the post and pre 400% gain announcement.
so fret not, you can still buy the asset though at the inflated price.
Secondly, you want a proof of the pump. I would rather ask you what proof, other than jl777's reputation, of not being any? None. Proof of one being in place? At least 2, one the majority shares being held by him and him alone, and secondly failure that is called NXT AE allowing large transactions to pass through at very low fees - 1 NXT.
Why not ask this question to jl777 and he can hire someone who could go through his account? I guess his stature is too tall and many will piss in their pants before they get this bold.
So the fact that 7 people in this thread did in fact "take statements of a "newbie account" as the gospel truth" seems to support what I said. Some people will believe what they want to believe and it doesn't take much for them to form an opinion. It's obviously easier to just say "oh fuck that superNET shit, it's just a scam" then to actually spend the time reading and researching what it actually is.
I said they were "his words" because I remember him saying just that in the thread. I didn't go to github to go count the lines myself. I'm not a programmer and to be honest I don't really care if there are 40k lines or not. I know enough that lines of code aren't any specific measure of work, but it tells me he's at least coding. Which is to me the reason I have any interest at all in superNET. Since he's not just talking about doing it, he's actually attempting to build it.
I certainly don't think he's "jesus", or anything other than just someone who seems to have a lot of motivation to get things done. He could stand to be more organized and more clear with his ideas. Also, I think he would benefit from slowing down a little bit and focusing on less things at once. But apparently that's not how he works. He's the one doing shit and I'm not, so I'm not one to argue.
Also I think you underestimate what he's trying to build. You keep comparing it to ripple or the MGW. I wrote this recently in another thread as an example of what you should be able to do from the superNET GUI that will be launched from any wallet that's a part of superNET:
-Ability to send BBR transactions with other currencies(which of course use CN's ring signatures and BBR's unlinkable outputs upgrade)
-Buy and sell assets with whatever currency you're using on the NXT decentralised asset exchange instantly with James' InstantDEX and MGW tech.
-Buy and sell crypto and fiat through the coinomat service. Which is apparently offering some sort of anonymous debit card which sounds pretty interesting(but I don't know much about it).
-It will be a platform where service providers will be able to integrate their service to be used directly from the superNET GUI. For example BTER exchange is planning on implementing their service to be fully usable from the superNET GUI.
-Integrating Bitmark's 'marking' reputation+trust system which integrates Martti Malmi's(sirius on here) Identifi. This will be helpful for using the asset exchange and to help rate any service provider on the network(or any object really).
-Decentralised peer to peer anonymous betting system via James' Privatebet tech.
Again there you go with your broken comprehension. There weren't 7 people who took newbie account's words as the truth, rather made averse statement about Supernet ie the thread was a fairly balanced one. If you really want to count people who were convinced they are none. There were those who had perceived notions about it being iffy and then found some value in numbers I put out. Or do you think they all read and said "holy shit! 500 BTC for 2k BTC assets" and took off? I see you are promoting the fact
people who support jl777 had all the equations down to the number of how much jl777 held
vs
every other person who was against jl777 as a sorry person who looks at newbie account at gets convinced? Until you hold this notion, I have to call you a moron and ask you to get off your high horse.
There are people who are much smarter than you on bitcointalk and will not invest in supernet, even if it is not because of what I said.
Do you know the beauty of github? It tracks each line being changed, so if I change the date in a header file, it will show it as a line changed. Before you jump the gun, I am not commenting about jl777, rather how weak your "objective" look of things is. If past posts are an indication, I am sure you will change your tune now and say you and the complete jl777 junta understands this too.
How will SuperNet leverage BBR's ring signature or BITMARK feature? Just out of thin air? No, the coin you hold, say BTCD needs to converted to BBR or BITMARK to be able to use that feature. Supernet will charge a fees on that transaction. So basically building a BTCD to BBR and BTCD to BITMARK and BBR to BITMARK (by triangulation) market which is good, no doubt but...
it is similar to what ripple does which is...provide a way for people to leverage usage of different assets by allowing them to input USD to buy ripple and then convert it to metals (some gateway) , BTC etc. So in a way, the market is built for USD to XRP to GOLD or BTC and triangulation markets.
