Topic: Real Time Socialist Train Wreck (again) Happening Now in Venezuela (Read 42657 times)

That might be in Caracas, anywhere else such as Maracaibo are getting power cuts everyday several hours so "normal" gets thrown out of the window. We are cashless (by force, not by choice). No power, no transactions, no food...

Some people have USD, but its a minuscule minority. The $1 USD banknote already buys more than 10 times what the largest (500) VES banknote buys, and these "new" banknotes are not even 1 year old...

Its only going to get worse. Maduro "rose" the minimum wage; i hope the resident socialists are reading: To 40,000 VES. That's not even 7 USD a month.

Life here is basically: go to work (if you have one) and then immediately back home. Occasionally try to buy food to survive. If you are lucky to have working internet, the pain is alleviated a little. Don't get sick, you won't get medicine or treatment anywhere. If you have a stash of some thousand dollars, maybe you can get a bit of treatment in a private clinic. Forget public healthcare, the "socialist" government destroyed it completely, to the point you can actually get worse by trying to step into one of those (i'm not kidding, healthy people have gotten infected and didn't get any treatment anyway).

What happens if you get sick? Pray. Some herbalist medicine might help. Several people have died from lack of medicine and or treatment, from terminal to the formerly eradicated diseases that had sadly returned from the hell places that do illegal (mineral) mining in the south.

All bitcoiners and all litecoiners and all dogecoiners and all religions. They all want to be Socialists. They all want to have others submit to their will while sitting on their throne.

Wilikon says: "If you can make fun of yourself you cannot be a true Socialist"

All countries and all cultures and all Hollywood and all Google and all Facebook and all polar bear saviors and all religions. They all want to be Socialists. They all want to have others submit to their will while sitting on their throne.

That is why we, bitcoiners, exist. I can't know what the next paradigm shift will look like, but if I can make fun of myself while going toward the light, I am good baby!

Well I am inclined to agree with you but for the sake of argument, can you name one country that isn't socialist?   Sure the failure rate is 100% but it is happening far too slow in the corrupt socialist united state occupying much of north america, sure the buildings and infrastructure are crumbling far faster than in china but the interesting question is the timing.  Sure we can say that everybody dies but that's not going to be very useful as a medical opinion if you know what I'm saying. 

I have a good friend with family still down there. He said work he is at work he is able to be almost normal, but elsewhere he cannot stop thinking about his family in danger.  #tough_times

Well as you know the theme of this thread is the ultimate 100% failure rate of Socialism. It was easy for me to predict, when I created my thread many moons ago that Venezuela will end up with blood in the street, thanks to military vehicles rolling over innocent Venezuelans.

Money is a vector of corruption. You can corrupt a system and have immense power without fiat money. People are corrupting others with Bitcoins. Fiat is not the problem in that case. Socialism is, at least withing this thread.

Schools are cheap... Children even cheaper.

Sichuan: corruption alleged in collapse of school on 9,000 students

For the first time, official sources admit that buildings were built poorly. Meanwhile, work continues around the clock to dig a drainage channel for the waters of the lake threatening 1.3 million people. Beijing thanks Taiwan for aid, and arrests those who criticized the government over the earthquake.

Beijing (AsiaNews/Agencies) - Hundreds of soldiers have already removed 70,000 tonnes of earth and debris, and have dug at least one third of the channel to drain the waters of lake Tangjiashan, the largest of the 35 new lakes created by the quake.  Meanwhile, official sources admit that the schools in Sichuan  toppled by the earthquake were poorly constructed.

A race against time is on to dig a drainage channel for the water, fed by the flow of the river Jian, before the pressure collapses the natural stone and earth dam, flooding the city of Mianyang and its 1.3 million inhabitants, about 190,000 of whom have already been evacuated to higher ground.  The rain is hampering the work, sticking the bulldozers in the mud and interfering with the helicopters.  According to Xinhua, the water is still 23 metres below the lower edge of the dam, and Zhou Hua, a Mianyang official, says that "the situation is under control".  The press have also reported, citing environmental protection sources, that the lake also contains 5,000 tonnes of toxic chemicals, like sulphuric and hydrochloric acid.

Meanwhile, Lin Qiang, deputy inspector of Sichuan's education department, has for the first time acknowledged that corruption may have contributed to the poor construction of the schools that collapsed, burying more than 9,000 students and teachers, out of the total of about 68,500 confirmed victims (while there are 20,000 "missing").  The parents of the victims are protesting that the schools collapsed, while the surrounding buildings held up.


http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Sichuan:-corruption-alleged-in-collapse-of-school-on-9,000-students-12390.html

Socialism was supposed to protect the children. Oh no! This is not Socialism. It's corruption. Just like in Venezuela. Not Socialism.

Always the same song. Always blood in the end.

Why should we think that one centrally controlled fiat empire is "socialist" and another is not? 

It doesn't make sense to me.  Are we talking about places where schools are cheap, those are worse and will fail? 

Or is it places that have centrally controlled economies like the USA and China, which are worse than.. than what exactly?   

When Socialism fails (always) never forget to push for a What-About-That-System-Hmmm?-Hmmm-?Hmmm-? Look here!! See! USA is so evil!

 

Sad for the people. Evil is evil. Socialism is worse. Always.

What do you think will happen with the much larger fiat empire, more centrally controlled, to the north, elements of whom are reportedly sponsoring the coup?  I think you're right, it will go in some ways the same way eventually. 

Saudi Arabia just beheaded 37 people but the first country to abolish the death penalty is a "brutal dictatorship".  The US is pure evil.

Reminds me of the Poland uprising....

A National Guard APV Just Mowed Down Pro-Guaido Protesters In Caracas













Forces loyal to the Maduro regime in Venezuela were just seen live on TV mowing down pro-Guaido protesters with a National Guard armored personnel vehicle. Warning: Graphic video:

According to reports, this occurred at the La Carlota airbase.

Another video appears to show members of the military arresting National Guard troops loyal to Maduro:


https://twitter.com/PanAmPost_es/status/1123261044644876289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1123261044644876289&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weaselzippers.us%2F



Always the same ending with Marxism...

They are not sending the crude for free. Thousands of Cuban doctors are stationed across various Venezuelan state hospitals and the crude is being used to pay for their services. Without these doctors, huge number of Venezuelans will be denied quality medical care. Actually it is big business, but mostly hidden from the world media:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_medical_internationalism

It is your way to admit marxists are too dumb to stand on their two feet since it is so easy for the US to ALWAYS manipulate them like puppets, forcing them to eat from (still functioning) garbage trucks in the end?

I agree with you.

 

the us marionettes will never safe venezuela they only will try to scam venezuelans as money earning cattle to enrich the central bankers in the usa

Short on electricity, food and water, Venezuelans return to religion










The people of Venezuela’s largest slum were used to the blackouts that halt the flow of water, exhaust their supplies of expensive candles and fray their already thin patience.

But this would not be like any other lightless night in the hillside barrio. Amid the darkened alleyways, a strange, joyful sound emerged between the zinc-roofed homes. Tambourines jingled, maracas rattled, drums throbbed. Voices called all who could hear to salvation.

Buffeted by political and humanitarian crises, one of Latin America’s least religious countries is turning to faith. As the political stalemate between President Nicolás Maduro and opposition leader Juan Guaidó grinds into another month, and shortages of electricity, food and water reduce life to a daily struggle to survive, leaders across religious traditions are reporting a flood of worshippers, lapsed and new, searching for comfort and answers.

https://www.thetelegraph.com/news/article/Short-on-electricity-food-and-water-Venezuelans-13765134.php


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Marxism's failure brings you into Jesus. Marxism is Hell.

I think I posted something about them being eaten earlier in the thread...

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article215644840.html

Will crypto and bitcoin buy burro burgers?

Basically Maduro's term. Chávez dismantled democracy and its institutions, so he could "do things" faster, and it kinda worked so long as the oil prices were up and he was alive.

I clearly remember "the Daka incident" which this thread seems to be about. The big irony is the owners of that chain had strong ties with the government, and simply abused the system in place for their favor. While the chain basically bankrupted in Venezuela, they fled to Panama with all their ill gotten money and prospered over there.

Currently there is a similar chain of stores called Traki which seems to have strong ties with the de facto gov too, and also appear to have used their unfair advantage for huge profit importing things at more favorable exchange rates than 99% of the population could get, while selling it at even higher prices than abroad (just like Daka did). Unlike Daka which was mostly just home appliances, Traki also sells food and clothing, resembling more a "hypermarket". You might have seem them mentioned in this forum since they are supposed to accept crypto, including the infamous Petro...

These are private entities getting benefits from a socialist state that has restricted the market, which gives them a tremendous advantage for profit. Kinda like a "letter of marque" for monopolies sanctioned by the State that essentially ruins everybody else (including themselves).

Top Venezuela court tightens noose on opposition chief Guaido


Caracas (AFP) - Venezuela's Supreme Court called Monday for Juan Guaido to be stripped of his legislative immunity, tightening the noose on the opposition chief just days after authorities announced a ban on him holding public office.

Guaido -- recognized as Venezuela's interim president by some 50 countries -- is locked in a power struggle with President Nicolas Maduro that has drawn in neighboring states as well as superpowers such as the US and Russia.

As the political battle plays out, the country has been hit by a series of devastating blackouts that have left millions without water, prompting the government to replace the country's energy minister and institute power rationing in a bid to address the outages.


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Maduro -- whose government has blamed "terrorists" for alleged attacks that have damaged the country's main hydroelectric power plant -- announced that he was Igor Gavidia Leon to replace retired general Luis Motta Dominguez as energy minister.

The new minister "is an electrical industry worker with 25 years of experience, an engineer who had many responsibilities," Maduro said.

- Electricity rationing -

On Sunday, Maduro announced 30 days of electricity rationing, after his government said it was shortening the workday and keeping schools closed due to blackouts.

The measures are a stark admission by the government that there is not enough electricity to go around, and that the power crisis is here to stay.

With no electricity, pumping stations can't work, so water service is limited.

Street lights and traffic lights go dark, pumps at fuel stations stand idle, and cell phone and internet service is non-existent.

But people try to find water wherever they can: from springs, leaky pipes, gutters, government-provided tankers and the little that flows through the Guiare River in Caracas.

"We fill up from a well near here but we don't know if its drinkable. But we're using it," said Erimar Vale, who lives in the capital.

Angel Velazquez said he bathed at work because he did not have water at home.


Maduro also acknowledged that many Venezuelans could not watch his broadcast because they had no electricity.


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Getting worse since November 11, 2013, 08:23:22 AM... Good luck for you all!