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The most amazing thing is, whether you question my motives, if I am getting paid or not, is the total lack of the "big media" covering the situation in Venezuela... No matter your political position.

I might ask the same question about the Lonmin mine deaths near Johannesburg Wilikon.



3 deaths in a strike?
Not that interesting anymore as previous said. You need blood flowing through the streets like bulls in pamplona or some naked singer to make the news.
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The most amazing thing is, whether you question my motives, if I am getting paid or not, is the total lack of the "big media" covering the situation in Venezuela... No matter your political position.

I might ask the same question about the Lonmin mine deaths near Johannesburg Wilikon.

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The most amazing thing is, whether you question my motives, if I am getting paid or not, is the total lack of the "big media" covering the situation in Venezuela... No matter your political position.

Because people don't really care what's happening there ? Just like North Korea.
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The most amazing thing is, whether you question my motives, if I am getting paid or not, is the total lack of the "big media" covering the situation in Venezuela... No matter your political position.
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Meanwhile, more deaths:

Clashes flare after Venezuela student camps raided, one dead

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/08/us-venezuela-protests-raids-idUSBREA470MT20140508

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Venezuelan troops on Thursday rounded up hundreds of youth activists and dismantled camps set up to protest against President Nicolas Maduro, and a policeman was shot dead in the demonstrations and clashes that ensued around Caracas. Pre-dawn raids by National Guard troops broke up four tent camps maintained by student activists in the capital of the OPEC member nation during three months of protests.
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Venezuela’s government announced the start of electricity rationing in western Zulia state as well as water rationing in Caracas to reduce demand on the power grid, a day after Ford Motor Co. (F) halted production in Latin America’s largest oil exporter.

The second-largest U.S. automaker joins competitor Toyota Motor Corp. (7203) and Dutch truck-maker CNH Industrial NV (CNHI) in suspending assembly in the South American country because of the difficulty of obtaining dollars to import parts from the government.

Shortages of everything from water to car parts and flour to pregnancy tests come after three months of protests against the government of President Nicolas Maduro that have left at least 41 people dead. The government yesterday said it will start rationing electricity and water as drought drains hydroelectric reservoirs and water tanks.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-07/venezuela-to-ration-electricity-after-colombia-cuts-gas.html

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Published on May 8, 2014
Joven es arrestado por la PNB en Altamira



http://youtu.be/emhUo9J2SQE



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Wilikon - why are you posting links/copy and pasting text, that any of us on here are savvy enough to find for ourselves if we were of such a mind ?

The reason I ask is that the bulk of your posts on this thread could easily be classed as spam - it could be said that you are spamming a public forum, and one, at that, that has utopian ideals (and so deserves better IMHO).

  Are you being paid to do it ?

I am not paid to do any of this. Actually as you can see clearly there is zero advertising as a signature under my posts on this forum either. I have no slogan, not even a quote the way you have one. I usually update a thread when I see new information related to the original topic of that particular thread.

But if you believe I am spamming the forum make sure to use that function "Report to moderator" next to every single of my post, or every time you see my name.
I may well be unknowingly destroying this unique and fragile ecosystem called the Bitcoin Forum > Other > Politics & Society all by myself,  based on your all encompassing view and moral beliefs for the good of all...

I have no reason to justify what I do to you as you won't have to justify any to me when you'll be doing your little reporting of my evil doings to the forum authority.

Have a good day. Enjoy your bitcoins.




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Wilikon - why are you posting links/copy and pasting text, that any of us on here are savvy enough to find for ourselves if we were of such a mind ?

The reason I ask is that the bulk of your posts on this thread could easily be classed as spam - it could be said that you are spamming a public forum, and one, at that, that has utopian ideals (and so deserves better IMHO).

  Are you being paid to do it ?
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Venezuela Raids Anti-Government Camps, Arrests 243 Students & Teachers



Authorities cleared out four camps set up at different points in eastern Caracas by anti-government protesters and arrested 243 people early Thursday morning, Venezuela’s interior minister said.

“The four sites where they remained in these camps, from where they came out to commit acts of violence and afterwards camouflaged themselves in these camps saying that it was a peaceful protest, have been broken up,” Miguel Rodriguez told state-run television from the site of one of the camps, outside the U.N office in this capital.

“Here on Francisco de Miranda (avenue) … the camp was cleaned out by surprise and drugs, weapons, explosives and mortars were seized,” he said regarding the operation launched at the four sites at 3 a.m. Thursday.

He said that in the camp from which he was speaking, where a group of students was demanding that the United Nations send a mission to Venezuela, the person responsible for setting fire to a police vehicle several days ago was arrested.

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2014/05/08/venezuelan-government-clears-out-protest-camps-arrests-243/

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Billions unaccounted for in Venezuela's communal giveaway program

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/06/us-venezuela-communes-special-report-idUSBREA450CA20140506

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The unsupervised spending in El Chaparral is symptomatic of a vast community aid effort with lax financial controls. A network of more than 70,000 community groups has received the equivalent of at least $7.9 billion since 2006 from the federal agency that provides much of the financing for the program, Reuters calculates, based on official government reports.

The universal law of Rust and Decay...
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Billions unaccounted for in Venezuela's communal giveaway program

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/06/us-venezuela-communes-special-report-idUSBREA450CA20140506

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The unsupervised spending in El Chaparral is symptomatic of a vast community aid effort with lax financial controls. A network of more than 70,000 community groups has received the equivalent of at least $7.9 billion since 2006 from the federal agency that provides much of the financing for the program, Reuters calculates, based on official government reports.
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complaining that the socialist government's currency controls are preventing them from importing essential products due to restrictions and delays in purchases of dollars.

Workers, who spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity, said the plant in the central city of Valencia would be paralyzed until the end of May.

Transport Minister Haiman El Troudi confirmed the stoppage at the plant but said it should reopen in two weeks after a meeting between Ford representatives and government officials that resolved some "critical bottlenecks."

The minister said state currency board Cencoez would release $20 million in debt to Ford this week.

Toyota Motor Corp <7203.T> halted vehicle assembly in Venezuela in February for the same reasons.

Venezuela's struggling auto industry saw first-quarter production fall 76 percent to just 3,424 vehicles, compared with 14,316 units in the same period of 2013, according to national automakers' organization Cavenez.

Ford assembled only 499 cars in the first three months of 2014.

Automobiles are just one sector of many where President Nicolas Maduro's government is facing clamor to release more dollars for imports. He says unscrupulous businessmen exaggerate needs in order to flip dollars on the black market for profit.

But nevertheless ministers are holding urgent meetings with business heads to try and resolve problems and help reverse the slide in local production.

Venezuela operates three exchange controls - at 6.3 bolivars per dollar for preferential goods, and at around 11 and 50 for other sectors via two Central Bank mechanisms.

The dollar is trading at about 66-68 bolivars on the black market, according to illegal web sites that track it.



http://www.businessinsider.com/r-ford-suspends-vehicle-assembly-in-venezuela-2014-05#!JvJPd

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Armed Civilians Fight Venezuela Protesters

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303948104579537963099935756

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As Venezuela's civil unrest stretches into a fourth month, the government has relied mostly on National Guard troops to contain protesters. But it also has another, less formal tool: gangs of armed, pro-government civilians.
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http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/05/05/venezuela-unarmed-protestors-beaten-shot



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Bush's fault... Roll Eyes



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http://youtu.be/arYLd-pPHIo

(google translate)
A clash between students of the Catholic University of Táchira (UCAT) and police Táchira (Politáchira) developed from hours of the morning of Monday 05 May.
After 3 months of protests in St. Kitts, Monday May 5 universities started classes. The students decided to hold the protest, this time with a "pupitrazo", prompting the intervention of regional police and clashes between the two groups. Unofficially, it was reported that they were arrested. some protesters and people taking photos.

Un enfrentamiento entre estudiantes de la Universidad Católica del Táchira (UCAT) y la policía del Táchira (Politáchira) se desarrolló desde horas de la mañana de este lunes 05 de mayo.
Luego de 3 meses de protestas en San Cristóbal, este lunes 05 de mayo las universidades iniciaron clases. Los estudiantes decidieron mantener la protesta, en esta oportunidad con un "pupitrazo", lo que provocó la intervención de la policía regional y el enfrentamientos entre los dos grupos. Extraoficialmente se reportó que fueron detenidos. algunos manifestantes y personas que tomaban fotos.

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The Bolivarian Revolution a Factory of Billionaires






Bolibourgeoisie: A portmanteau of the words Bolivarian and Bourgeoisie; a term describing the new bourgeois created by the Venezuelan government of Hugo Chávez and Chavismo, made up of people who became rich under the Chavez administration. (wikipedia.com)

At the time of his death Hugo Chavez and his family were estimated to be worth between 1 and 2 billion USD. Paradoxically, for 14 years Chavez consistently spewed anachronistic revolutionary propaganda, highlighting statements like ‘capitalism is bad,’ ‘end to the bourgeoisie,’ ‘rich people don’t work’ ‘rich people are lazy,’ and last but not least ‘the United States is evil’. Oddly enough Chavez, his family, and his buddies have all benefited from Imperialist influence.

With billions of dollars worth of refineries in the United States, and a network of CITGO gas stations; anti-imperialism coexists incongruously with profitable North American investment and business.

http://jennyblando.org/2014/04/17/the-bolivarian-revolution-a-factory-of-billionaires/

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Seems like the intensity of the protests are down compared to the past few weeks. Meanwhile Maduro will be completing one year in office this week. Unfortunately, I have to say that he can't even be compared with Hugo Chavez.
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Venezuela Rejects Amnesty for Opposition as 'Peace Dialogue Advances'



Representatives of the Venezuelan government and its opposition met for a second time on Tuesday, reporting some progress in the peace talks aimed at putting an end to more than two months of protests that have resulted in 41 deaths to date.

The government, however, rejected a call to grant amnesty to the 175 people arrested as a result of the disturbances, according to news reports. Leopoldo Lopez, a former mayor and prominent opposition figure, as well as Daniel Ceballos and Enzo Scarano, two opposition mayors arrested in connection to the protests, are still in prison.

Vice President Jorge Arreaza, the head of the government delegation in the meeting, left the possibility of an amnesty open for the future, according to the Agence France Press. But Ramon Guillermo Aveledo, a representative of the opposition coalition called Democratic Unity (MUD), said his group would "seek other ways" to solve the issue of what he defined as "political prisoners," the BBC reported.

Despite this disagreement, both parties said the hours-long meeting was positive.

"The meeting was always held on good terms, with respect and tolerance," said Arreaza. "The peace dialogue is advancing."

Aveledo, for his part, said the opposition is "willing, as shown today, to find windows and try to build paths together," even though he said the process will be "complicated."

The two parties even agreed on three key measures, as reported by the Spanish daily El Pais.

First, the opposition formally condemned violence, something that the government had pushed hard for since the student protests that have swept the country have at times turned violent.

Second, the government agreed to add outside figures to the so-called Truth Commission, a group tasked with probing the violent incidents that occurred during the protests. Initially, the commission only included parliament members (five from the government, four from the opposition). Now it will include external experts, who will be nominated in following peace meetings, as reported by the local newspaper El Universal.

Finally, the opposition accepted the government's request to join the program "Safe Homeland," a government anti-crime plan to boost security on the streets with more police and even military presence. Cities controlled by the opposition were not part of the program until now.

The round of talks on Tuesday was the second formal meeting between the government led by President Nicolas Maduro and an opposition coalition. The groups met for the first time last week on Thursday, in a televised six hours-long event in which Maduro spoke for 45 straight minutes at the beginning.

Not all wings of the opposition are part of the peace talks, however. The party led by Lopez, who launched the movement The Exit earlier this year along with ousted parliament member Maria Corina Machado, refused to take part in it. The group wants Maduro to step down and open a political transition as a first condition, something Hugo Chavez's successor has repeatedly said will not happen.

http://mashable.com/2014/04/16/venezuela-rejects-amnesty-peace/

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Well , my question was about something else. I had the impression that in Cuba you are forced to stay in your country , just like it happen in the eastern block between 89 when only a few of us got permission to leave. I wondered if it's the same for Venezuela.

For normal Venezuelan citizens traveling abroad is not a problem. Usually there is no surveillance. But things are different for Cuban doctors and nurses working under the government program.
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