Topic: Real Time Socialist Train Wreck (again) Happening Now in Venezuela - page 3. (Read 42667 times)

You are saying stuff that has nothing to do with the reality we are living here....

Since 1970, the "Chacal" was making deals with sirian comunist leaders, since 1980 he started funding Hugo rafael Chavez MVR 200 political party, that political party also share their idiology with the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), both were communist parties... That funding was due narcotics being dealed at the Venezuelan border with the help of the Venezuelan military and Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia—People's Army(FARC) all that was happening with the help of the Castros...

To make the history short, they did what Pablo Escobar wanted to do... Take over a country so it can be used as a company to blank all the money that drugs, weapons, people, sex slaves, organs and who knows what more make them.

It has nothing to do with oil nor politics...

This is the paradise for illicit commerce and activities... We desperatly need and militart intervention from an Army capable of hurting this druglords

Nationalization never worked out well in Latin America. There are numerous examples. But the Latin American leaders only care about their vote banks and political future. And that is the reason for all this chaos and anarchy.

Theres a little true hided in your words, only people who work with the government has those chances! and not every one who works with them...

Forget about oil prices, forget about the countrys weatlh... They use the country as a drug international port, they use the country bank accounts to blank illegal money or money from druglords.... All the most dangerous mens and companies in the world are in this country...

We have sirians migrating to USA through Venezuela, using Venezuelan passports and they dont even know who to say Hi in spanish!!!
We have a Hezbollah lider  Tarek El Aissami(Vicepresident of Venezuela)

This is not socialism, this is not a country this is a Narco-state, in fact not only narcotics, also organs, gold, uranium... We have the most giant crime organization in our country!

It is not the transition from capitalism to socialism. What you describe is plain banditry. Never in Venezuela, capitalism was not. The poor are uneducated criminals can hijack the enterprise, but to manage them they can't. This will lead to the collapse of the economy. What we now see.

The initial euphoria for the poor after killing capitalism and moving to socialism is akin to a zombie apocalypse. Suddenly, even the poorest person can go out and get any car they can get their hands on, they can go to any grocery store and get as much food as they want, they can go live in a mansion. They are now "rich". Oh, and by the way...there is no more gas being produced, food will be scarce and nothing new is being created. But hey...free stuff!

Venezuela is a lesson to all the major oil producing nations. They thought that the crude oil prices will stay at $100 - $120 per barrel levels forever. So unlike Russia and Saudi Arabia, they never bothered to set up any sovereign wealth funds. Now they are suffering as a result of their bad decisions in the past.

But that doesn't take away the fact that Socialism ends up in bloodshed when the money runs out. It never fails.

"Hey! Hold on! this is not really Socialism, not TRUE Socialism in Venezuela anyway. But but.. Next time... Yeah... Next time" Someone saying this never fails either.

But that doesn't take away the fact that the Venezuelans voted for the Socialist Party. Before Chavez became the president there, more than 70% of the Venezuelans lived in poverty. Chavez reduced it to around 30%. So obviously, a large part of the population benefited from socialism, at least initially during the regime of Hugo Chavez.

Socialists love to play the rich on the misery they create, then blame others while enjoying putas and caviar.

A reminder from last year:

the state in Venezuela is the state that every socialist/communist countries end up in. I'm not reading western mainstream media, but that doesn't change the fact that every socialist/communist country ends up just as Venezuela is now.

I agree partly with you. The Americans needs to stay the fuck out of Venezuela, North Korea, and the other third world countries. What is going on in Venezuela right now is the internal affairs of that country. The Venezuelans don't need American support to take care of that.

Every country is evil beside Vené NK & Co...

Interesting viewpoint. Soon enough Maduro will sell his citizens as meat for export to NK...

No dummie, the state of Venezula in particular is getting overthrown by the US. If you ever read outside the Western media bubble you might realize not all the information you are force fed is correct.

Its the same with North Korea. All you clueless salivating shitheads actually think NK is a viable threat on its own, independent of Chinese support.

Socialism is a utopia. There is no state in which people live well with socialism or communism. Only China has demonstrated the possibility of the existence of the Communist system, but this has not led to high levels of Chinese life. And I think that everything will be destroyed.

sooo every socialist/communist country is getting overthrown by US? The socialism itself caused all of that trouble, not everything is US fault, not this time.

Why would you think The Young Turks is anti-Venezuela propaganda?

Personally I believe everything is working fine in Venezuela, or at least... as predicted since November 11, 2013, 08:23:22 AM...


As Venezuela continues its descent into chaos, the world is getting a front row seat to what Socialism does to a country. In the middle of the night, two opposition leaders, Leopoldo Lopez and Antonio Ledezma, were forcibly removed from their homes.

https://twitter.com/joshdcaplan/status/892390124775931904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2017%2F08%2Fsocialism-dramatic-moment-venezuelan-opposition-leader-forcibly-removed-home-video%2F

So much bullshit anti-Venezula propaganda

The country is getting overthrown by the US, it's not internal politics you fucking dumb bastards.

It amazes me how people who I thought were smart just swallow the mainstream narrative without thinking

TYT Explain Venezuela

José Felix Pineda - Candidate killed as violence erupts in Venezuela vote



Caracas (AFP) - Deadly violence erupted around a controversial vote held in Venezuela on Sunday, with a candidate to the all-powerful assembly being elected shot dead in his home and troops firing weapons to clear protesters in Caracas.

The unrest highlighted the tensions over the vote called by beleaguered President Nicolas Maduro despite months of demonstrations and fierce international criticism.

He is gambling his four-year rule on the 545-member citizens' "Constituent Assembly" empowered to dissolve the opposition-controlled congress and change laws as it reforms the nation's constitution.

A candidate for the new body in Venezuela's southeastern town of Ciudad Bolivar, 39-year-old lawyer Jose Felix Pineda, was killed from multiple shots fired by assailants who broke into his home overnight, prosecutors said.

He was the second candidate to be murdered, after the July 10 death of another, Jose Luis Rivas, as he was campaigning in the northern city of Maracay.

In the west of Caracas, national guard troops fanning out to put down any disruption to the election used armored vehicles and fired shots to disperse protesters blocking roads.

Video posted on Twitter showed troops smashing down a metal gate and entering to the sounds of gunfire, and what appeared to be an armored vehicle on fire.

The opposition has called for a boycott and mass demonstrations against the election, which it calls a bid by Maduro to install a dictatorship with the backing of the military.

Four months of protests against Maduro and the new assembly have left more than 100 people dead.

Maduro kicked off voting by casting his ballot in a west Caracas polling station.

"I'm the first voter in the country. I ask God for his blessings so the people can freely exercise their democratic right to vote," the president said. He was accompanied by his wife, Cilia Flores, who is a candidate to sit on the new assembly.

Turnout will be key to determining the legitimacy of the election. But that will be difficult to ascertain as most voters will be able to vote twice, as candidates are drawn from social and industry sectors as well as geographically.

Surveys by Datanalisis, a pro-opposition polling firm, show more than 70 percent of Venezuelans opposed the idea of the new assembly -- and 80 percent reject Maduro's leadership.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/voting-starts-controversial-venezuela-election-105146151.html

It's a lesson against centralization. The US did not centralize the whole economy around oil prices. The price went down and the people were like "meh, cheap gas". We did not take over the oil industry and run our economy from that income like Venezuela did.

Centralization only works if the gamble the government takes works out. Which it rarely does because politicians.