Topic: Real Time Socialist Train Wreck (again) Happening Now in Venezuela - page 2. (Read 42654 times)

Same reason Russia was pouring money into Cuba.

The great communist ideal must be replenished from outside in order to continue. It cannot stand on its own.

The idea being if these countries can make communism successful in one place, then they prove that it works.

Venezuelans Slaughter Donkeys For Food






A few years ago, there were so many donkeys, or burros, in the Venezuelan state of Falcón that they were a problem — herds everywhere, causing highway crashes and blocking airport runways.

But over the past three years, the herds have shrunk dramatically as thousands of burros have been slaughtered for their meat by Venezuelans suffering through a near-famine.

“There’s no more burros here,” said Odalys Martinez, a resident of the Paraguana Peninsula in northern Falcón.

The collapse of the Venezuelan economy is radically changing the eating habits in the oil-producing country, where large sectors of the population are being forced to pick through garbage and slaughter domestic animals to sate their hunger.

The burros’ disappearance in Falcón has set off alarms among authorities in the state, where it had prospered after it was declared a protected species and was used by residents only to carry cargo or to plow agricultural lands.

“From 2015 to today, 2018, the burros disappeared,” said opposition parliament deputy Eliézer Sirit.

His fellow deputy, Luis Stefaneli, said burro was not part of the traditional Venezuelan diet, like in China, Spain and parts of Latin America.

The clandestine slaughter of the animals also has become a sanitary and environmental problem, Stefaneli added. There are no sanitary controls, and the burro has been disappearing from its native habitats.

The burro population was so large in Paraguana just a few years ago that it created serious security problems. The airport in the Falcon state capital, Coro, assigned a vehicle to clear the animals from the runway before all landings and takeoffs, to avoid a tragedy.

And along the isthmus that links Coro with Paraguana, 17 miles long and almost four miles wide, herds of burros sleeping or resting on the road often surprised drivers.

The 54-mile highway between Coro and Punto Fijo still has road signs with images of burros that warn “Danger, Animals on the Road.” In 2001, a legislator proposed building walls along the road to keep the animals away.

“What was a highly risky road yesterday because of the number of burros, is not dangerous any more,” said Sirit. “There are no burros. We ate them all. Total extinction.”


https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article215644840.html


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Next, people will eat trees. Then, people will eat people. Soylent Green Socialism.

CARACAS, Venezuela -- Economists say inflation in Venezuela could top an astounding 1 million percent by year's end as the country's historic crisis deepens. The International Monetary Fund predicted the decline Monday.

The once wealthy oil-producing nation of Venezuela is in the grips of a five-year crisis that leaves many of its people struggling to find food and medicine, while driving masses across the border for relief into neighboring Colombia and Brazil.

Shortages in electricity, domestic water and public transportation plague millions of Venezuelans, who also confront high crime, the IMF noted.

Socialist President Nicolas Maduro often blames Venezuela's poor economy on an economic war that he says is being waged by the U.S. and Europe.

IMF economist Alejandro Werner says that if the prediction holds, Venezuela's economy will contract by 50 percent over five years.

Werner says it would be among the world's deepest economic falls in six decades.

"The collapse in economic activity, hyperinflation, and increasing deterioration ... will lead to intensifying spillover effects on neighboring countries," Werner wrote in a blog post.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/venezuelas-inflation-on-track-to-top-1-million-percent-imf-says/

Why would they be sending oil to Cuba and not getting paid for it? It doesn't make sense to me?

Venezuelans are starving, but the country still sends crude to Cuba





Venezuelan oil production is dropping rapidly and the government has no money to buy food, medicines or consumer goods, but there is one item that the socialist regime of President Nicolás Maduro seems unwilling to sacrifice under any circumstances: oil subsidies to Cuba.

News reports that a shipment of 500,000 barrels of crude was on its way this week to the port of Matanzas in northwestern Cuba sparked indignation among many in Venezuela, a country suffering under the worst economic crisis of its history.

The oil that Venezuela supplies to Cuba equals about 55,000 barrels per day and costs about $1.2 billion per year, money that could help the country curb inflation, import urgently needed medicines or provide food to the 9 million Venezuelans who say they eat only once per day.

But Maduro has made it clear that he prefers to keep supermarkets empty rather than suspend the shipments to Cuba, said Antonio De La Cruz, executive director of the Washington-based consultancy firm Inter American Trends.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article214635335.html

Yes. I agree as Saudi Arabia is a kingdom. I have yet to see a socialist state though, recognized as such with no opportunity for the lame "this failed state wasn't truly socialism, but the next one will" excuse not fail. There are no rare occasions of that not happening in the past since the creation of mankind. Non existent. A socialist state always ends up in massive failure because reality is incompatible with the socialist reality.

There are a few examples. Look at Saudi Arabia. When the oil prices were high, the king was giving handouts to the Saudi nationals almost every day. But now the oil prices have fallen, and the handouts have stopped. The people are not happy now.

Could this be the same case for a King or Queen?

In some rare cases a tyrant can be very good because the leader is a generous man who cares about the lives of the people he owns. But it's a fact that when God turns against the Tyrant and people start dying  (the black death), the power goes into the hand of the people, they tend to act differently and go after the tyrant, who said  he would protect and take care of them, thanks to his tough love...


Yep, The same... with the extra bonus of not providing one example of a socialist state that was good for the people, and use that example as a perfect case.

So extremely rare, as in nonexistent...

In some rare cases socialism can be very good because the leaders are generous people who care about the lives of their own people.but it's a fact that when power goes into the head of people they tend to act differently and oppress the people the seem to care about.

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12124665

You are absolutely right there. I heard that Hugo Chavez's daughter (Maria Gabriela Chavez) is the richest female in Venezuela, with assets amounting to more than $4 billion (most of it held outside Venezuela).

If I was a socialist king I would push for a food Independence first, among other things. This is something I never get with all the socialist experiments in the past: starvation. Always.

Why? Shouldn't food distribution be the foundation of a system based on... "sharing"?

Of course the people working for the state never go hungry.



 

^^^ How much of the food is imported in Venezuela? I am surprised because it is a very large country (around 1,000,000 sq.km in area) having open lands and fertile soil. Why can't they produce the food there itself?

Hunger eats away at Venezuela’s soul as its people struggle to survive



Hunger is gnawing at Venezuela, where a government that claims to rule for the poorest has left most of its 31 million people short of food, many desperately so. As night falls over Caracas, and most of the city’s residents lock their doors against its ever more violent streets, Adriana Velásquez gets ready for work, heading out into an uncertain darkness as she has done since hunger forced her into the only job she could find at 14.

She was introduced to her brothel madam by a friend more than two years ago after her mother, a single parent, was fired and the two ran out of food. “It was really hard, but we were going to bed without eating,” said the teenager, whose name has been changed to protect her.
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Since then Venezuela’s crisis has deepened, the number of women working at the brothel has doubled, and their ages have dropped. “I was the youngest when I started. Now there are girls who are 12 or 13. Almost all of us are there because of the crisis, because of hunger.”

She earns 400,000 bolivares a month, around four times the minimum wage, but at a time of hyperinflation that is now worth about $30, barely enough to feed herself, her mother and a new baby brother. She has signed up to evening classes that run before her nightly shift, and hopes to one day escape from a job where “everything is ugly”.

Velásquez grew up in one of Caracas’s poorest and most violent districts, but Venezuela’s food crisis respects neither class nor geography. The pangs of hunger are felt through the corridors of its major businesses, behind the microphone on radio shows, in hospitals where malnutrition is climbing sharply and already claiming lives, and at schools where children faint and teachers skip classes to queue for food.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/26/nicolas-maduro-donald-trump-venezuela-hunger?CMP=edit_2221


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Unexpected starvation in a socialist lab experience pushed upon million of innocent lab rats?... I wish somebody saw that coming many years ago in a thread...


 

This will not work. Many of the socialist governments have already realized it. Look at China. They shifted from Socialism to market-based economy, after finding out that Socialism will not survive in to the long-term future. Even Cuba and North Korea are following their example.

This is the problem in paper socialism sounds great that is why most of the time it gets approved but in order for that to happen the rich that so many people hate need to sell their products and services for a loss, the poor say  the rich deserve it but the problem is those rich people created all that stuff, the services and created jobs so after they stop producing for lack of profits a spiral begins to happen in which every year there are less products and no one wants to create those products because they know they are going to be forced to sell for a loss.

All the drugs that are dealed to Europe, come from Venezuela it self, the government did a group of latin american leaders (Chavez, Lula, Evo, Correa and Kirchner) who showed the world that they don't need the hand of U.S.A to be the great country we can be... but actually that group is just a mob, the most powerfull and dangerous mob of all time...
With people as Tarek el Aissami and other persons that are linked with Terrorism, druglords, homicide, etc etc...

They move the drugs from country to country till it reach Venezuela, then Venezuela deal the drugs to it destination with the hand of the president or who ever controll the dealerships (Military forces from Venezuela) then they just do aa country-country bussness like "we are going to give Argentina 2 Billions$ for the hospital blah blah" the hospital doesnt even exist neither the money, they used the countries accounts that are from Geneva HSBC to play with the country trasury money like a mob...

Venezuelan people is not dangerous to the world, our government and the mob inside it, are the most dangerous people in the entire world...

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The only thing im thankfull of... is being prepared for the real world... we actually survive day after day in this country... Even if you work for a year you wont be able to buy a pair of tires for a car... that being said, is impossible to buy a car, is impossible to buy primary needs from marke because or there are none or are just hyperinflated...

World commerce let buyers, re-sell with a 30% margin... in this country 100-200% is the wining margin! Only if you have acces to USD, and thats not the case... only people who are close to the president and their senators, are theo nly ones with the power to use the USD that belongs to the country it self...

We have a paycheck that is less than 15$ monthly...

How do you feel when you read starbucks' caffe vanilla frappuccino drinkers telling you, from typing on their Mac Book while looking outside a sidewalk in San Francisco, how you should be thankful for Chavez and Maduro, and all the goods they did to your country?

^^^ This is new information for me. I never thought that the situation regarding illegal narcotics was this bad in Venezuela. There has been a lot of media coverage regarding the abundance of narcotics in the neighboring Colombia. The mainstream media has covered the links of major armed formations there (FARC/ELN and AUC) with the drug trade. But I was thinking that Venezuela was largely free from drugs.