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legendary
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Yeah , they are stealing Venezuelan milk via the haarp project from the stores.
Comoon , it's just another socialist country going down the drain.

There are plenty of Socialist nations around the world. Some of them are currently doing much better, when compared to the US allies.

And those nations are.....?

Any socialist nations with an ironically named The Emperor at the helm I would presume...  Cheesy
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Yeah , they are stealing Venezuelan milk via the haarp project from the stores.
Comoon , it's just another socialist country going down the drain.

There are plenty of Socialist nations around the world. Some of them are currently doing much better, when compared to the US allies.

And those nations are.....?
legendary
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Yeah , they are stealing Venezuelan milk via the haarp project from the stores.
Comoon , it's just another socialist country going down the drain.

There are plenty of Socialist nations around the world. Some of them are currently doing much better, when compared to the US allies.
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The CIA is trying hard to create another Kiev in Caracas. They are not going to succeed.

Yeah , they are stealing Venezuelan milk via the haarp project from the stores.
Comoon , it's just another socialist country going down the drain.

I've seen those food shortages 20 years ago in all eastern Europe. Of course it was the cia fault  , not the idiots in the government.
No wonder the french woke up so fast in only 2 years of socialist majority.
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I see your point. Let us not talk about those 39 deaths. They do not count compared to Iraq, etc. The faster we forget them, the better.

Those 39 deaths were a great tragedy. But when the US media barks so much about that incident, it reminds me of this proverb:





I had no idea Amnesty International looked like your description... Make sure to contact the reporters, infos included at the end of this article, to share with them your viewpoint.




Amnesty Reports Dozens of Venezuela Torture Accounts



Amnesty International has received dozens of accounts of torture allegedly carried out by government security forces in Venezuela since protests that have left at least 37 dead broke out in February.

“We’ve received reports from detainees who were forced to spend hours on their knees or feet in detention centers,” Amnesty wrote in a report, adding that other Venezuelans said they suffered sexual abuse and threats of murder. “Inhuman and degrading treatment inflicted on detainees appears to be intended to punish them for their involvement, or suspected involvement, in the protests,” Amnesty said.

The unrest started Feb. 4 when students demonstrated against a lack of security at their universities, sparking nationwide marches organized by political opposition leaders eight days later over issues including rising crime, shortages of basic goods and accelerating inflation. The unrest has persisted almost nightly as protesters clash with the National Guard and armed groups that support President Nicolas Maduro.

The government and members of the opposition must make a commitment to human rights and the rule of law, according to the report, “Venezuela: Human Rights at Risk Amid Protests.” Amnesty based its findings on interviews with government officials, human rights organizations and lawyers, alleged victims of abuse and witnesses of violence during protests.

Venezuela’s Information Ministry didn’t respond to a telephone call and e-mail message seeking comment on the report, which was made available in Spanish to reporters yesterday under embargo.

‘Cruel Treatment’

The government is investigating two cases of torture and 75 of “cruel treatment,” the Public Prosecutor’s office said yesterday in an e-mailed report, adding that 17 members of state security forces had been arrested.

“Human rights are respected in Venezuela,” Public Prosecutor Luisa Ortega Diaz said on state television March 28. “We’re going to investigate.”

More than 550 people have been wounded during the unrest, including anti-government protesters, Maduro supporters and bystanders, according to the London-based human rights watchdog. Eight members of the National Guard are among the dead, Amnesty said.

Amnesty since Feb. 12 has received reports of the use of pellet guns and tear gas shot directly at protesters at short range and without warning. Such practices violate international standards and have resulted in the death of at least one protester, it said. Demonstrators detained by government forces at times have been denied medical care and access to lawyers, Amnesty said.

‘Chemical Toxins’

“Amnesty views with worry the use of chemical toxins in high concentrations,” the non-governmental organization said. It recommended that all government security forces receive training on the correct use of force in protests and that operational plans to control public order be changed to comply with United Nations norms.

Amnesty called on Venezuela’s government to conduct an “exhaustive, independent and impartial” investigation into all reports of human rights violations and guarantee that detained protesters have access to lawyers, family members and medical care.

Amnesty expressed concern about Maduro’s March 5 statement urging supporters to take to the streets and stop opposition protests as well as the use of barricades by protesters and pro-government forces to shut down city avenues.

Elected last April to succeed Hugo Chavez, who died a month earlier from cancer, Maduro is struggling to slow the world’s fastest inflation and stimulate gross domestic product that according to analysts polled by Bloomberg will contract in 2014. The economic woes put into question past gains that have benefited the poorest of society, according to Amnesty.

“The grave situation the country faces today could have been avoided if the government had prioritized the promotion and protection of human rights, strengthened institutions that support the rule of law and fought high indexes of criminality,” it wrote.

‘Electric Shocks’

The Human Rights Center at the Andres Bello Catholic University in Caracas is aware of 30 cases of torture or bad treatment in Venezuela since protests started, Beatriz Borjas, a lawyer at the organization, said by telephone yesterday, adding that 27 of the cases involved students detained by state security forces.

“There are two cases that involved electric shocks, two cases that involved pepper gas and another two cases where they were doused with gasoline,” she said. “We’ve found there to be systematic conduct on the part of the state to inflict inhumane treatment on detainees because of similar reports from different days and detention centers.”

Marco Coello, an 18-year-old student in Caracas, was detained Feb. 12 and tortured by security forces after participating in a march for the first time, his mother, Doris Coello, said today by telephone. After being detained by plain clothes officials who did not identify themselves, he was taken to a basement and at gun point told to sign a confession stating that he had burned cars after the protest, she said.

The Public Prosecutor’s press office didn’t immediately respond to telephone messages left by Bloomberg News seeking comment on the allegations.

“They told him that they would kill him if he didn’t sign it,” she said, basing her account on conversations with her son. “He started to cry, but he wouldn’t sign it. They then wrapped him in foam sheets and started to hit him with rods and a fire extinguisher. Later, they doused him with gasoline, stating that they would then have evidence to charge him.”

Her son remains in jail, and authorities by law have until the end of the day today to file formal charges or release him, she said.

To contact the reporters on this story: Nathan Crooks in Caracas at [email protected]; Corina Pons in Caracas at [email protected]


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-01/amnesty-reports-dozens-of-venezuela-torture-accounts.html

legendary
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I see your point. Let us not talk about those 39 deaths. They do not count compared to Iraq, etc. The faster we forget them, the better.

Those 39 deaths were a great tragedy. But when the US media barks so much about that incident, it reminds me of this proverb:

legendary
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I agree. 39 dead is not enough. The Venezuelan government should do its best to improve those numbers...

Compare it to the millions the US has killed in Iraq.

I see your point. Let us not talk about those 39 deaths. They do not count compared to Iraq, etc. The faster we forget them, the better.
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Compare it to the millions the US has killed in Iraq.

Millions killed in Iraq, Syria.etc by the US were part of a "humanitarian killing campaign". You should not worry about it.
legendary
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I agree. 39 dead is not enough. The Venezuelan government should do its best to improve those numbers...

Compare it to the millions the US has killed in Iraq.
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Battling food shortages, the government is rolling out a new ID system that is either a grocery loyalty card with extra muscle or the most dramatic step yet toward rationing in Venezuela, depending on who is describing it.

President Nicolas Maduro’s administration says the cards to track families’ purchases will foil people who stock up on groceries at subsidized prices and then illegally resell them for several times the amount. Critics say it’s another sign the oil-rich Venezuelan economy is headed toward Cuba-style dysfunction.

Registration begins at more than 100 government-run supermarkets across the country Tuesday, and working-class shoppers who sometimes endure hours-long lines at government-run stores to buy groceries at steeply reduced prices are welcoming the plan.

“The rich people have things all hoarded away, and they pull the strings,” said Juan Rodriguez, who waited two hours to enter the government-run Abastos Bicentenario supermarket near downtown Caracas on Monday, and then waited another three hours to check out.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/mar/31/venezuela-issues-id-cards-to-curtail-food-hoarding/
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As Twain said, "History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.". Thatcher also said "They would rather the poor be poorer so long as the rich were less rich", and as we are witnessing once again, economic reality would be happy to oblige.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okHGCz6xxiw
legendary
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The CIA is trying hard to create another Kiev in Caracas. They are not going to succeed.

I agree. 39 dead is not enough. The Venezuelan government should do its best to improve those numbers...
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Venezuela to Probe Crossword Puzzles’ Role in Protests




Crossword puzzles in a local Venezuelan newspaper are calling readers to violent protests with conspiratorial messages, the country’s information minister said today.

Delcy Rodriguez called for an investigation of El Aragueno daily from the industrial town of Maracay, 120 kilometers (75 miles) west of Caracas for putting “encrypted messages” in its puzzles, she said in a post on her Twitter account. She didn’t give any details.

One person died in Maracay in a month and a half of protests against the government’s handling of an economic crisis that has pushed inflation to the highest in the world and led to shortages of basic items. At least 35 people have died in the protests, according to President Nicolas Maduro.

Brain teasers have triggered the alarm of Venezuela’s socialist government before. In May 2012, state television accused the biggest national newspaper Ultimas Noticias of trying to organize the assassination of then-President Hugo Chavez through coded crossword messages. Chavez died from cancer a year later.

An Information Ministry spokesman, who can’t be named because of internal policy, declined to comment on the investigation plans. El Aragueno editor Corina Rodriguez wasn’t immediately available for comment.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-27/venezuela-says-subliminal-crosswords-stoke-deadly-protest.html




Rebel code in the newspaper?

Chavez died from cancer a year later.
Oops...I don't watch the news much anymore...Didn't even know he was dead.
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The situation for opponents of Nicolás Maduro's socialist regime continues to worsen after weeks of constant protesting. Argentine outlet Infobae reports that the government has been arresting one protester every 35 minutes.
Infobae notes that little more than half of those arrested since the detention of opposition Popular Will party leader Leopoldo López have been freed. Many of those released have told the outlet that they have been "presented at tribunals with little time to speak to lawyers, coerced into signing papers, or accused with false evidence of 'fabricated' charges." Many others have accused the government of beating or torturing them.
One Venezuelan deputy has estimated the total number of arrests at 1,900 since López was sent to prison, according to newspaper El Universal. The arrests have included hundreds of protesters, but in recent days, the focus has been on public figures aligned with the opposition. Maduro arrested two opposition mayors and three generals in the past two weeks. He also expelled a congresswoman from her position, without explaining what laws she had violated.
San Cristóbal, the town run by one of the mayors, is now under full martial law. The college town located near the Colombian border has been considered the most active stronghold of the opposition in the nation. Spanish newspaper ABC published a series of moving images of the state of decay that martial law has brought to the city. Despite limited Internet access, residents of San Cristóbal continue to publish images and video of military and paramilitary shooting at peaceful protesters:


http://youtu.be/jAmnGFTZPWI


The congresswoman expelled last week, National Assembly member María Corina Machado, vowed to return to the National Assembly and do her job anyway. Machado has not had the chance to honor her promise to return, as the Assembly has not been in session. That should change Tuesday because Assembly President Diosdado Cabello, who expelled Machado, has called for a new session. Her expulsion from the legislature was a response to her visit to Washington, D.C., where she traveled to urge the Organization of American States to intervene in Venezuela. Stripping her of her legislative title removes legislative immunity. This has caused many to expect her arrest Tuesday.
As both laypersons and public officials continue to struggle against his regime, Maduro continues to make public appearances condemning the opposition for their outspokenness. In public statements Sunday, Maduro called opposition leaders "cowards" who "do not show their faces." He accused them of working to "convince the youth to take to the streets and burn and kill."
It has been 59 days since Leopoldo López showed his face to Maduro's military and was arrested for speaking out against the government.
The death toll in Venezuela, according to Infobae, is now 39.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/03/31/Report-Venezuelan-Police-Have-Arrested-1-900-One-Protester-Every-Half-Hour


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Venezuela to Probe Crossword Puzzles’ Role in Protests




Crossword puzzles in a local Venezuelan newspaper are calling readers to violent protests with conspiratorial messages, the country’s information minister said today.

Delcy Rodriguez called for an investigation of El Aragueno daily from the industrial town of Maracay, 120 kilometers (75 miles) west of Caracas for putting “encrypted messages” in its puzzles, she said in a post on her Twitter account. She didn’t give any details.

One person died in Maracay in a month and a half of protests against the government’s handling of an economic crisis that has pushed inflation to the highest in the world and led to shortages of basic items. At least 35 people have died in the protests, according to President Nicolas Maduro.

Brain teasers have triggered the alarm of Venezuela’s socialist government before. In May 2012, state television accused the biggest national newspaper Ultimas Noticias of trying to organize the assassination of then-President Hugo Chavez through coded crossword messages. Chavez died from cancer a year later.

An Information Ministry spokesman, who can’t be named because of internal policy, declined to comment on the investigation plans. El Aragueno editor Corina Rodriguez wasn’t immediately available for comment.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-27/venezuela-says-subliminal-crosswords-stoke-deadly-protest.html


legendary
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This is a catastrophe.  Where are this forum's socialists to reassure me that this isn't "real socialism"?

I can hardly imagine what kind of toll this is having on Venezuela's economy; those 3-4 hours aren't just a nuisance, it's time people could've used to do something productive.  It essentially puts the nation on hold.


This forum's socialists know all the images and videos I am posting here were created, produced at Industrial Light & Magic.

Or maybe everything I am posting about what is happening in Venezuela is the result of a Real Time Socialist Train Wreck.


legendary
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This is a catastrophe.  Where are this forum's socialists to reassure me that this isn't "real socialism"?

I can hardly imagine what kind of toll this is having on Venezuela's economy; those 3-4 hours aren't just a nuisance, it's time people could've used to do something productive.  It essentially puts the nation on hold.
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