Topic: Received BFL Jalapeño Today! - page 13. (Read 40280 times)

The cgminer code is stable so it needs no attention right now so I've left it mining full time. I've moved it around a few times from pc to laptop to mining rig and so on. I've ripped the case off to look inside, and found it runs a lot cooler with the fan blowing downwards and the case off - though I put it back together the original way to be able to safely move it from PC to PC. My particular one runs at 5.7GH with about 1 hw error only every 12 hours. When mining on a PC only with it, the CPU usage of cgminer doesn't even register (something like <1%). Trying it on r-pi it still only uses 3% CPU to run it. This is all thanks to cgminer using direct USB instead of the ancient serial usb interface with the ftdi driver. It doesn't run hot at all, mine sits at ~43 degrees on the sensor and is only warm to touch. It uses 32W via the power brick it was sent with, but only increases my mining rig's power by 30W when I use the adapter to plug it into the PSU of the rig so this is a more efficient way to mine with it.

Lol.

So anyway, tell us a bit more about your little BFL "Borg cube" have you got it mining all the time or just mucking about with it?

Does it run hot to touch?

How much CPU power do you need for cgminer to drive one of these things? Like would it run from a Raspberry Pi or a small low power Intel Atom board?

The number of coins "lost" by betting on BFL is irrelevant. You could have turned that money into billions, if you'd been able to read the future. Again, it's just the same as saying after the end of a game, or a boxing match "Man, the loser of that game totally cost you, like, a million dollars, dude! If you'd gone out and bet all your money on the WINNING team, you could've been rich by now!"

It takes a special kind of stupid to use hindsight in your argument.

And no, I'm not begging anybody to stop posting. Where did I beg anybody to stop posting? I'm just pointing out that it's always the same trolls, who have nothing better to do than cry about BFL. You're OBSESSED. It's unhealthy. Get a hobby, dude.

At least you tried. Lol

Looks like the answer is no. 

So then it doesn't count that BFL failed on their promises for 6 months after their original promised delivery date in which cost investors opportunity?

Yeah right lol my argument is so flawed. I am an unbiased observer that never put any money into a preorder with BFL or any ASIC company. My opinion has weight to it because I'm not responding nor posting based on emotion. Purely on the facts that BFL promised then lied to string investors along for months all the while m owing the could not ship for months.

Josh will never address the inconsistencies of them saying they did X in October then saying agai. That finally they are doing X in march.

Bullshit lol

This is what people with no real argument post. They piss and moan and beg you to stop posting.
Wrenchmonkey didn't read the earlier posts talking about how the current exchange rate does not matter in calculating the BTC lost by betting on BFL.
Why would he read them? He has nothing to offer this forum except to go down on his knees and beg everyone to stop bashing BFL. You don't need to read posts to do that.

Hehe,

I didn't miss the boat, the boat missed me?!

Actually, the boat never came, and it was notorious for being late and for having serious "leaky" problems. The boat conductor is also awful. He swears like a sailor!

Right now, the best indicator to me that BFL is both shady and unprofessional is that Inaba is still employed by them. Any real company would have fired their PR monkey for treating customers the way Josh has.
So why haven't they fired him? They must need him to be a dick on the forums.
What could being belligerent on the forums possible get BFL? It might deflect current pre-order investors from asking too many questions.
Why doesn't BFL want their investors asking questions? I don't know.

I do know the following:
As long as BFL ships just enough devices to avoid being called a scam and damaging the reputation of Bitcoin further, all is good (unless you are a BFL investor).
As long as BFL doesn't ship enough devices to affect the network hashrate, all is good (unless you are a BFL investor).

Watch out for this guy Inaba, it seems he has more common sense (and critical thinking) than most....

He's a sharp tack, don't step on him!

This argument is beyond retarded. It's the same trolls over and over (I'm looking to you, Smoothie). It's not BFL's fault that people didn't choose to invest in bitcoin instead of a pre-order of an ASIC miner. Nobody had any knowledge, let alone a guarantee that the bitcoin exchange rate was going to rocket off like it did in such a short amount of time. Some people bet wrong, and didn't make as much money. boo hoo.

The same argument can be made on ANY investment, with the benefit of hindsight. "Well, if you'd just bet on the winning team, you wouldn't have lost the bet. So clearly the losing team owes the bettor some winnings!" Um. no.

Give it a rest, people. If you don't want a BFL, don't buy one. If you missed the boat then go cry a river. Trolling the forums with every possible contrived little complaint you can dig up just demonstrates that you're a whiny bitch with an ax to grind...

Rograz, you must be new.

I do use the truth to "throw at BFL". You just don't appear to know it, hence your ignorance.

I hope your wife is doing the finances in your household.  How about you pay me now for 1 billion shares and I'll submit them to your pool 10 months from now when my ASICs arrive?

-Perhaps he did not have $150 more to buy BTC? You're married, you should know you can't spend willy nilly
-Pehaps he expected he would receive his device in October 2012 because it said so on the internet.  Oh that's right, you can't believe everything on the internet, especially from duplicitous PR guy.
-Perhaps he thought in October that the price had not changed much and he would receive his device in November.  And then in November he was told it would arrive in December.  Repeat this sequence until April 2013.  Why should he buy additional BTC - wasn't that the point of purchasing the miner?
-If BFL converted the Bitpay BTC to ass hamsters would he be refunded in ass hamsters?  If BFL converted Bitpay's BTC payment to some crack on SR would he be refunded in crack?

Nothing stopped sensible people from buying a simple 7770 which might have mined 23 BTC by now - well nothing except common sense.  Would you, Inaba, buy a video card and related computer hardware and mine at 200MH/s when you have an order pending for a device that would do 4.5GH/s at 1/20 the power.  Would you?  I just want a simple yes or no answer - don't go on with talk about how I'm not worth your time?  I own a BFL Single (original owner) and I had orders for ASICs, so don't count me in your pool of detractors who never even bought BFL hardware.

Yes BFL cannot be blamed for people who want a refund in BTC paid - you can't use a purchase as a hedge against foreign exchanges.  They can blame BFL for poor planning on their miner hardware deployment secondary to BFL's, uh how did you word it, "fallacious statement" - of which I believe you were responsible for later on in 2012.  I have yet to see you apologize even once for the delays the BFL suffered, whether intentional or not.  Can't you for just one time say you hurt people?  Or does that admit to liability to be used in court?

Come on, rebuke me with some of your SAT vocabulary.  Please abstain from 4 letter words and profanity.

No, the proper translation is: I'm not feeling like arguing with stupid.  Check back later, maybe my mood will have changed.

Try understanding the basics of what you're posting before you post, you might get a more comprehensive response.  The fact that you have no idea what you're talking about makes it hard to even know where to start.

Oh, you mean the 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 rule for delivery they promised and now are ignoring?

Translation: "I got nothing"

Until BFL catches up to all of their orders in the QUEUE they are in essence screwing someone else over.

They have not delivered in full to all customers from 6, 8, 10 months ago. So stfu until then okay? Thanks  

The future exchange rate has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with this. Hold my hand as I walk you through it. If somebody wants to invest in BTC they can either A) buy them or B) buy hardware to mine them.

If they had decided to A) buy BTC and the price of BTC today was $1,000, they would have 23BTC today. If the price of BTC today was $0, they would still have 23BTC today.

If they decided to B) pre-order a Jalapeno to mine them and the price today was $1,000, they would have 0BTC today. If the price was $0, they would still have 0BTC. If the price in a year from now is $1,000 they might have 17BTC by that time. If the price in a year is $0, they would still have 17BTC.

See how that works? Somebody that pre-ordered a Jalapeno 10 months ago will have 25% less BTC than if they bought them directly. It doesn't matter what the exchange rate has done in the last 10 months.

I guess many people purchased BTC to buy the Jalapeno at the time.
(I know I did) i.e. I would not have purchased BTC otherwise at the time, so whether to keep or not is really a moot point from this perspective.
It was just that the process was Fiat-> BTC -> Bitpay -> Order Confirmed.

Hey Inaba,

It's called lost opportunity. Paying you fools in any fiat paper that could have been put towards bitcoin is a lost opportunity.

Nice try, though to deflect.