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legendary
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April 30, 2013, 05:11:54 AM
My order number was 1604.

How can this be true? BitPay was doing API tests and during their tests ISTR they created order numbers around 1630-1640.
And the first real order numbers for SC's started around 1650-1660: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wait-list-bfl-sc-pre-order-information-monarch-orders-too-89685

So how can you be 1604? Typo?

I, too, went to the same thread upon reading the order number, but opted to finish reading this thread before commenting to see if anybody else caught it. I see that somebody did. I now also see that the above has yet to be answered. Odd!
I believe that "Scared" will never be seen on BitCoinTalk again. I fear the worst.
legendary
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April 30, 2013, 05:06:29 AM
You think Bitcointalk is still relevant to mining hardware.

 Fuck you asshole. Where the fuck do you think your first customers came from ?

 Eat a bag of dicks.

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Right now, you are the face (some might say ass) of BFL on these boards. If you actually want to protect and grow your business, then you should hire an real PR person. If you have no business to protect, well then I guess you might as well just rage on.

Whoa... I see where the communication breakdown is.  You think Bitcointalk is still relevant to mining hardware.  Heh.  How... quaint.  I see where you get your nick, now.  





Let me let you in on a secret folks.

When he shows up ["I speculate"] it is because people have posted something worth hiding. In order to bury it, he must illicit strong emotions "out of you" so that people turn the thread into a cesspit where the uncovered evidence was found (or in many cases resuscitated/remembered).

Then, ask the Mods to quickly hide the thread based on its content going way down hill.

This is how dogs hide their crap when it smells pretty strongly.
legendary
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April 30, 2013, 05:02:01 AM
Originally I sided with BFL since they offered full refunds so I felt people willingly chose to stay on board and shouldn't complain. Then when I really dug through Josh's post history, it does seem very likely that he posted fraudulent ship dates to string people along.

Ah, shit.

That is what happens when you look through Josh/Inabas posts. You find out the truth and realize he is only posting pre-tense on the hope that no one will actually go and find out the truth.

The truth is the number one enemy that is dogging this poor man.

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I told you to watch out for TehFiend, he can't be fooled by those tricks you always employ...

Why would you cancel your order in Feb if they were just about to ship in March? He's held that carrot right out in front leading everybody the entire way one little lie at a time. Look at the last two updates. First he says "We plan on shipping possibly by the end of next week" then two weeks later mentions "We've been working on getting the software and firmware nailed down". This has my bullshit meter pegged. It's starting to become clear the Josh has never had any idea when they might ship and just keeps staying "almost there". I think the reason Josh can't find time to post that update that's two weeks over due is because saying nothing is easier than telling another lie that the "trolls" will hold him accountable for...
Holy crap, see, he actually read your history.

This "TehFiend" is one guy you won't be able to convince with a passive lie. You may need to deploy bigger badder BS Inaba. Bigger, heavier and more concentrated. It's the only way to "pull the wool" over his eyes. Do it quickly, the audience is watching, don't let them see you sweat.

Quickly, call him a cocksucker before people become suspicious of your history and tactics.
legendary
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April 30, 2013, 04:52:48 AM
Yes BFL cannot be blamed for people who want a refund in BTC paid - you can't use a purchase as a hedge against foreign exchanges.  They can blame BFL for poor planning on their miner hardware deployment secondary to BFL's, uh how did you word it, "fallacious statement" - of which I believe you were responsible for later on in 2012.  I have yet to see you apologize even once for the delays the BFL suffered, whether intentional or not.  Can't you for just one time say you hurt people?  Or does that admit to liability to be used in court?

So once again, you boil it down to what every other troll really trolls with.  You basically have nothing else.  "BFL is late."  

Yep, BFL is late.  I've apologized for it numerous times, and again, like Charlie, I am not your personal secretary.  If you're so lazy or incompetent that you can't be bothered to find the myriad of threads where I've apologized for it, that's just too bad, you'll have to suck it up and drive on, little soldier.  

I have hurt no one.  If you've been hurt by bitcoin, in whatever fashion, you seriously need to re-examine your life and reassess your priorities.  Putting yourself in a position where you can be hurt by an experimental currency and bleeding edge technology is not just stupid, it's completely irresponsible and you shouldn't be allowed near a computer, much less money.  On top of that, the timeline for the ASICs was set and announced long, long before I came on board.  As I've said, again in countless places, going forward if I have any say in the situation, BFL will not be announcing timelines beyond "When it's ready."  


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Come on, rebuke me with some of your SAT vocabulary.  Please abstain from 4 letter words and profanity.

I love this, when a troll trots out this old saw.  I rarely put profanity in my posts (It happens on occasion, but not often), but you're so blinded by your rage and butthurt that you envision profanity where there is none.  Does my vocabulary threaten you somehow?  Do you fail to understand the big words I use so you translate them into imaginary profanity, is that how that works?  I've always been curious as to where the source of this particular trope originates, perhaps you can enlighten me.


It originates with you.

I still admire your tenacity when you called (Entropy) the ex-Intel engineer whos apparently worked on process nodes as small as 20nm...a cocksucker for giving you his opinion.

Warning to the wise: Do not take anything Inaba (Josh --> BFL Employee) with any level of credibility. If you think I am joking, start looking through his posts and you'll fully understand.)
legendary
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April 30, 2013, 04:46:41 AM


My order number was 1604.



Could you double check that order number???

order numbers before 1655 where fpga orders. as far as i know, the first asic order placed was approx 1655
Shhh....shhh!  Shocked Grin

Can't you people just let a lie slip by? What is wrong with you people!? Leave Scared alone (said in a "leave britney alone" tone)
legendary
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April 30, 2013, 04:43:06 AM
My order number was 1604.

How can this be true? BitPay was doing API tests and during their tests ISTR they created order numbers around 1630-1640.
And the first real order numbers for SC's started around 1650-1660: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wait-list-bfl-sc-pre-order-information-monarch-orders-too-89685

So how can you be 1604? Typo?
Oops, the plot thickens...
legendary
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April 30, 2013, 03:35:53 AM
TL;DR

Do we have an order number os this is another PR joke?
copper member
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April 30, 2013, 03:34:24 AM
+1 @ Inaba, Tho I would like to ask about OP, Did it arrive in BFL box or was it inside another box?
legendary
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April 30, 2013, 02:18:20 AM
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Right now, you are the face (some might say ass) of BFL on these boards. If you actually want to protect and grow your business, then you should hire an real PR person. If you have no business to protect, well then I guess you might as well just rage on.

Whoa... I see where the communication breakdown is.  You think Bitcointalk is still relevant to mining hardware.  Heh.  How... quaint.  I see where you get your nick, now.  




So, where is mining hardware discussed then? Tell me. Serious question.

I'm not talking about mining hardware discussion.  Google "Bitcoin mining" ... Bitcointalk is at the bottom of the third page.  Which is also known as "Might as well not be listed" page.  

If someone does manage to find their way here, they quickly leave due to all the drama and trolls.  Most people who still post here are so saturated with this community they don't realize how tiny and insulated it is. Bitcointalk posters encompass less than 10% of the current mining population, on a per person basis.  Why do you think all the hardware vendors basically stay the hell away from here?  Avalon makes a post and then leaves for weeks at a time.  bASIC finally gave up and made their own forums before their implosion. Scams galore in the hardware section.  The lack of any meaningful moderation pretty much chases everyone away and no serious business would participate in Bitcointalk.  I do it on my own time and at my own whim.  I don't speak officially for BFL here and BFL has no desire to participate in the Custom Hardware section unless it's properly moderated and cleaned up, which seems unlikely to happen.

Seriously, it's the same people posting over and over for the vast majority of the posts. Those people already have their camps and no one is going to change their minds, so who cares?  There's so much misinformation and BS posted here, it's impossible to find the signal in all the noise, so it's pointless to try to conduct business here.


I may have to agree with this entire post by Josh. (seriously)
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
April 30, 2013, 02:12:36 AM


And now you delivered but your power spec is much lower than expected. Which charity did receive or will receive the 1000 BTC donation?

Yes I know - you will not answer this question instead of pissing your customers.


+1 When? When? When?

Also I'm curious if they will be tapping into their customer preorder monies to pay this promise to a charity lol
legendary
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April 30, 2013, 01:56:17 AM


And now you delivered but your power spec is much lower than expected. Which charity did receive or will receive the 1000 BTC donation?

Yes I know - you will not answer this question instead of pissing your customers.
sr. member
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April 30, 2013, 01:40:32 AM
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Right now, you are the face (some might say ass) of BFL on these boards. If you actually want to protect and grow your business, then you should hire an real PR person. If you have no business to protect, well then I guess you might as well just rage on.

Whoa... I see where the communication breakdown is.  You think Bitcointalk is still relevant to mining hardware.  Heh.  How... quaint.  I see where you get your nick, now.  




So, where is mining hardware discussed then? Tell me. Serious question.

I'm not talking about mining hardware discussion.  Google "Bitcoin mining" ... Bitcointalk is at the bottom of the third page.  Which is also known as "Might as well not be listed" page.  

If someone does manage to find their way here, they quickly leave due to all the drama and trolls.  Most people who still post here are so saturated with this community they don't realize how tiny and insulated it is. Bitcointalk posters encompass less than 10% of the current mining population, on a per person basis.  Why do you think all the hardware vendors basically stay the hell away from here?  Avalon makes a post and then leaves for weeks at a time.  bASIC finally gave up and made their own forums before their implosion. Scams galore in the hardware section.  The lack of any meaningful moderation pretty much chases everyone away and no serious business would participate in Bitcointalk.  I do it on my own time and at my own whim.  I don't speak officially for BFL here and BFL has no desire to participate in the Custom Hardware section unless it's properly moderated and cleaned up, which seems unlikely to happen.

Seriously, it's the same people posting over and over for the vast majority of the posts. Those people already have their camps and no one is going to change their minds, so who cares?  There's so much misinformation and BS posted here, it's impossible to find the signal in all the noise, so it's pointless to try to conduct business here.



You sure?

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7 @ 5.25

Quotation of the ad auction thread. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1951716

I think you are just butthurt because you clearly cant handle angry customers. All you do is drive them more into rage with your "you dont know shit about us" attitude. Yea, well, it has a reason no one knows shit about you. You only tell lies. Well, it may be true what you say all the time, but the truth changes a lot apparently.

Signed, not a angry customer
legendary
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April 30, 2013, 01:31:39 AM
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Right now, you are the face (some might say ass) of BFL on these boards. If you actually want to protect and grow your business, then you should hire an real PR person. If you have no business to protect, well then I guess you might as well just rage on.

Whoa... I see where the communication breakdown is.  You think Bitcointalk is still relevant to mining hardware.  Heh.  How... quaint.  I see where you get your nick, now.  




So, where is mining hardware discussed then? Tell me. Serious question.

I'm not talking about mining hardware discussion.  Google "Bitcoin mining" ... Bitcointalk is at the bottom of the third page.  Which is also known as "Might as well not be listed" page.  

If someone does manage to find their way here, they quickly leave due to all the drama and trolls.  Most people who still post here are so saturated with this community they don't realize how tiny and insulated it is. Bitcointalk posters encompass less than 10% of the current mining population, on a per person basis.  Why do you think all the hardware vendors basically stay the hell away from here?  Avalon makes a post and then leaves for weeks at a time.  bASIC finally gave up and made their own forums before their implosion. Scams galore in the hardware section.  The lack of any meaningful moderation pretty much chases everyone away and no serious business would participate in Bitcointalk.  I do it on my own time and at my own whim.  I don't speak officially for BFL here and BFL has no desire to participate in the Custom Hardware section unless it's properly moderated and cleaned up, which seems unlikely to happen.

Seriously, it's the same people posting over and over for the vast majority of the posts. Those people already have their camps and no one is going to change their minds, so who cares?  There's so much misinformation and BS posted here, it's impossible to find the signal in all the noise, so it's pointless to try to conduct business here.

legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
April 30, 2013, 01:29:43 AM
So as long as the MAJORITY of Josh's posts dont have profanity, it's okay.

LOL

Any person that represents a company on the COO level shouldn't be cussing in public when addressing issues related to BFL especially they are operating as an "expert" on everything and anything BFL-related.

There is so much COMPROMISE within BFL and its minions that I'm starting to wonder if they compromise on their salaries as time goes forward too right? Oh wait...can't touch the paychecks that would be too sensitive given they are made up of CUSTOMER/INVESTOR PREORDER MONIES...lol

 Tongue
legendary
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April 30, 2013, 01:18:18 AM
I don't know what to say if you see me as a troll. I was a BFL customer long before you became PR guy, and I don't blame you for anything that happened prior to your arrival.  But you failed to answer my simple question.  Would you, if you were a regular customer of BFL, be quite upset at the way in which the communication with the timeline for rollout was handled?

I'm not even blaming you for what you say.  You're just the PR guy.  If the company you speak for is messed up, you just have to find the best possible way to put out their press releases.  But wouldn't you be upset if you were a customer?  If you can show me one post of yours showcasing a sincere apology I will drop my complaints and even cheer-lead for you (and please don't mock me by saying you don't need my pathetic cheer-leading).  

I honestly have no idea what you're trying to get at.  You make a post about things in language that appears to be a query or future tense while the things you describe have already happened or are past tense.  Would I be upset?  I am upset, so I suppose the technical answer is yes. I've stated this plenty of times.  Again, why is it my job to be your secretary?

Since you want just one post, let me pick one off the top of my head:  https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html  ... kind of the main thread of the ASIC updates. Third paragraph.  
Oh, here's another: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/653-we-remain-committed-delivering-best-mining-products-market.html  second sentence even.
Oh look, another one: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/690-13-jan-2013-asic-update-discussion-thread-22.html#post11176

That took all of about 5 seconds to find.

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As far as the profanities, I have seen you (as Inaba) type some pretty offensive stuff, specifically involving male genitalia.  Yes there were equally offensive comments made about your wife and that kind of stuff is really uncalled for on these forums.  There's free speech and then there's lesser primate level of intelligence.  Anybody making comments about somebody's family that has no bearing on your company is uncalled for. However, there's no reason for you to stoop to their level.  It's not a playground and we don't need yo mama jokes.

I said I have used profanity.  I never have denied that, but I don't use it as a matter of course, like you implied.  The vast majority of my posts are profanity free.

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Rage and butthurt?  Yeah, I drink tea with camomile and have some nice candles - I don't have rage or butthurt.  Your vocabulary does not threaten me.  Your use of improper words (poor diction) as if you looked them up in a thesaurus does.  

Oh, and what words would those be?
sr. member
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April 30, 2013, 01:15:18 AM
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Right now, you are the face (some might say ass) of BFL on these boards. If you actually want to protect and grow your business, then you should hire an real PR person. If you have no business to protect, well then I guess you might as well just rage on.

Whoa... I see where the communication breakdown is.  You think Bitcointalk is still relevant to mining hardware.  Heh.  How... quaint.  I see where you get your nick, now.  




So, where is mining hardware discussed then? Tell me. Serious question.
legendary
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April 30, 2013, 01:14:48 AM

Back in the late 80's in Brentwood, TN, I was in the kitchen of Amy Grant's home watching her in tears while the new builder explained to her why 90% of the drywall needed to be removed from her almost finished home, originally built by an inept contractor.

Thanks alot, now I got that song stuck in my head!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbVtwRrX1hE
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
April 30, 2013, 01:13:08 AM
My order number was 1604.

How can this be true? BitPay was doing API tests and during their tests ISTR they created order numbers around 1630-1640.
And the first real order numbers for SC's started around 1650-1660: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wait-list-bfl-sc-pre-order-information-monarch-orders-too-89685

So how can you be 1604? Typo?

I, too, went to the same thread upon reading the order number, but opted to finish reading this thread before commenting to see if anybody else caught it. I see that somebody did. I now also see that the above has yet to be answered. Odd!
legendary
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April 30, 2013, 12:55:48 AM
In the real world people can wait for many months for a house to be built with a deposit much larger than the cost of a BFL device, and they are perfectly happy with that, as long as the builder doesn't go bust and they get their house in the end.

In the real world, having just had a house built I know how this works.  The builder has compulsory insurance should they default before the house is finished.  The insurance company would pay and I would have an angry bank chasing the builder (the bank paid the money, not me).  In the real world we all know if BFL goes belly up before a customer's order is shipped there's basically nothing that can be done.  A BFL asset sale would maybe return 5c in every dollar.

I also had a due date for the house and it was finished two months ahead of schedule.  BFL has missed promised shipping dates since October 2012.

Apologies for the quick aside:

Back in the late 80's in Brentwood, TN, I was in the kitchen of Amy Grant's home watching her in tears while the new builder explained to her why 90% of the drywall needed to be removed from her almost finished home, originally built by an inept contractor.

It was to get to the faulty wiring and plumbing, with the rest of the walls needing replaced after they jack up the house and repair the foundation. The reason for not tearing down the home and rebuilding it from scratch eludes me, but it was a magnificent home on a prime piece of property perched on a hill, with a panoramic view one would die for.

The inept contractor was building 11 other homes at various stages of completion when he went belly-up. I picked up three more of these homes to do similar repairs, one of which was even more magnificent than Amy's beautiful home.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
April 30, 2013, 12:49:00 AM
You think Bitcointalk is still relevant to mining hardware.

 Fuck you asshole. Where the fuck do you think your first customers came from ?

 Eat a bag of dicks.

THIS ^ * 21,000,000
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