and I want to add some statement maybe this will also answer the reply from @Fredomago.
maybe sometimes experience or good self control will not guarantee to continue to be a healthy gambler and also sometimes professional gamblers will still be emotionally defeated and fail to control themselves but as long as experienced gamblers who have good self control know how to avoid gambling if the atmosphere or conditions that are not good so as not to lose control when gambling.
for example, if you are an experienced gambler, but you know that your physical condition is angry because of some problem, and when you want to gamble, you always remember that if you are in an emotional state and gamble, you will definitely lose more money.
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if we take 100 people who play games of chance and ask these 100 people why they are playing, most of the 100 people will answer that they are playing because they want to have fun, so if we ask them if they are happy when they lose, we will hear answers like : NO. but that is an obvious answer. now if we make a little comparison about fun. one person has 50$ and goes to the beach and spends it all on food, takes pictures and buys some things and goes home happy and with 0$, another person takes 50$ and goes to a restaurant to drink beer and eat with friends and takes pictures and come home very late and with 0$
another person takes 50$ and stays at home playing in some online casino, stays for a few hours and loses everything. when we put the three people together the next day and ask how your previous day was, the answer will be obvious: the guy who stayed at home gambling and lost everything in the games of chance will be sad and regret having played, if he had won he would be celebrating. so was he playing for fun or money? no doubt it was for the money. Nobody likes to lose, and it's precisely because nobody likes to lose that when people lose they play even more to recover everything they lost.
and with that they become addicted to gambling, people start to isolate themselves from the real world, they get depressed due to many defeats, that's why even if they won they wouldn't stop playing, because they want to win more, games should be seen as fun, something people look at and know I'm going to bet 10$ and if I lose it's okay and in the next game don't think about the 10$ you lost, don't bet for revenge and don't bet to recover the 10$, go back to bet 10 $ as always
another person takes 50$ and stays at home playing in some online casino, stays for a few hours and loses everything. when we put the three people together the next day and ask how your previous day was, the answer will be obvious: the guy who stayed at home gambling and lost everything in the games of chance will be sad and regret having played, if he had won he would be celebrating. so was he playing for fun or money? no doubt it was for the money. Nobody likes to lose, and it's precisely because nobody likes to lose that when people lose they play even more to recover everything they lost.
and with that they become addicted to gambling, people start to isolate themselves from the real world, they get depressed due to many defeats, that's why even if they won they wouldn't stop playing, because they want to win more, games should be seen as fun, something people look at and know I'm going to bet 10$ and if I lose it's okay and in the next game don't think about the 10$ you lost, don't bet for revenge and don't bet to recover the 10$, go back to bet 10 $ as always
- Your explanation was very nice ang I liked it so much actually. Your point is good and should be one of the habit of an individual gambler's purpose. So that in the end we won't get any depress like what you had mentioned in the above. but the reality happened in the most gamblers they won't listened to other's advice ang reminders.
Because of their greediness and addiction they continued to play gambling for thinking they can win the game or hit the jackpot without noticing their losses was already big, and that's very sad truth.
If you are onto gambling for the first time it's not possible to get addicted to gambling because you haven't tasted what winning feels like, you will be consumed by doubts and uncertainty.
But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?
We have had a lot of conversations about gambling addiction, but I had the same conversation with someone close yesterday and this was my answer to him.
Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?
I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.
But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?
We have had a lot of conversations about gambling addiction, but I had the same conversation with someone close yesterday and this was my answer to him.
Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?
I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.
Addiction goes sideways, it's not when you only win before becoming a victim of it, you can play and be at a loss and when you have the intention of recovering from the loss, you can also become addicted in that process, gambling will have your attention in that period, nothing else will matter to you again and that is how addiction starts, you can the first game and lost the rest and be in that loop forever until you take a break and you can lose and continue to lose until you also wake up from that slumber.
There are many scenarios that can increase addictions; there are people that are influenced by other gamblers winning tickets and they make up their minds that as long as people win, they will also make that money from gambling, their minds are made up and hardly you can change those people back to default, it's not only after they win addiction can occur and the ridiculous thing is that they will never accept that there are in wrong paths, addicted to anything is deadly.
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Best thing to adopt is when you learn from your experienced, and that's the big edge of those experienced gamblers who manage to learn how to control things while inside gambling, knowing the set limits and try not to exceed helps them to prevent big losses, though still not a guarantee that they won't lose but it lessen the chance that they will burn all of their bankroll.
Learning from experience is a valuable lesson for everyone, especially for people who often gamble because by studying the losses that have occurred, they can learn to reduce the number of losses and will not repeat the same mistakes. But we know that not many people can do it because those who are used to gambling still want to win so they will continue to gamble. And that's why we have to know the limits that we set and always hold them so that we don't experience those big losses and can still smile even though we lose because we know that one day we will be able to win like everyone else. And when we win, we must remember ourselves and want more wins because it will be difficult to get. 
I think if you keep winning numerous times you tend to do relaxed gambling which cannot cause addiction. But probably, if you win once lose twice, as percentages I assume, you can be lot more into it. Winning couple of times can make you feel like "I should play more and try harder so I can win big" mentality. But that mentality cannot be true in gambling cause its mainly luck based... Strong "will" is necessary to not be addicted to gambling.
Addiction comes when you lose a little amount of money every day and winning a huge amount of money after a couple loss. that's where it starts it's based on our emotion. When we think that we're making a lot of money through gambling we think that we're actually always winning without thinking that we already lost a lot of money upon playing it everyday. in terms of playing recklessly it mostly comes after a you win some and you constantly losing that's where it starts because you wanna feel that excitement again that feeling of winning. So you tend to bet higher in order to get your loses.
That is why you should always not play when you're already high on your emotions because that is when you start thinking the opposite, meaning you aren't able to control yourself as you've just thought that you will keep winning or you've just wanted to chase more winnings because of your losses. No matter if you lose on a daily basis, if ever you've already won big time, or let's say winning 10 times in a row, that is where your emotions kick in, and that is the most dangerous part as you don't know how to stop betting that time and wanting more.
Addiction comes when you lose a little amount of money every day and winning a huge amount of money after a couple loss. that's where it starts it's based on our emotion. When we think that we're making a lot of money through gambling we think that we're actually always winning without thinking that we already lost a lot of money upon playing it everyday. in terms of playing recklessly it mostly comes after a you win some and you constantly losing that's where it starts because you wanna feel that excitement again that feeling of winning. So you tend to bet higher in order to get your loses.
While you could be right, I say reckless gambling really starts after that first 2 losses. People can easily just dip and take their cuts after the first win, I do that all the time and yet there are instances when I let my greed get the better of me and I continue gambling away since I don't mind losing the bankroll anyway. Losing 2 games in a row however is more mentally pressuring since you've already lost a considerable amount of money by then, one that you couldn't recover outright in a single win. So people tend to go ham during these situations and actually push through instead of cutting their losses and stopping from there, which as we all expect leads to them losing more money than they know how to work with.
Losing will either make you more greedy or make you go home without any take home profit, the greed starts here and I'm also guilty of this. We might not accept that being greedy is like this but eventually once you cannot control your emotion, that can still be consider as greed. Winning will make you more eager to get more pleasure, and I see this as a normal result once you gamble. What you can do to control this is to be more responsible and to stay focus on your strategy and goal, the moment you enter a casino or any site, you should be more ready for whatever the outcome is. And, what you mentioned might also become the reason for someone to get addicted to gambling, but that barely happens because most of the time, when you try recovering your money, you tend to lose even more, and most gamblers stop right there because they see they are getting nothing out of it.
Greed can come from a place of abundance or lacking. But it's what you would do in response to it that really matters in the long run. Do you push to gamble more? Do you cut your wins and losses and go home for the day?
which gamblers do really fall out into the same situation or condition and this what makes this cycle do keeps on circling and repeating just because people are really that greedy and there's no contentment.
This is why its really always important that you should really just play gambling for entertainment and dont really that make it as a source of income so that you wont really be making yourself that desperate.
While you could be right, I say reckless gambling really starts after that first 2 losses. People can easily just dip and take their cuts after the first win, I do that all the time and yet there are instances when I let my greed get the better of me and I continue gambling away since I don't mind losing the bankroll anyway. Losing 2 games in a row however is more mentally pressuring since you've already lost a considerable amount of money by then, one that you couldn't recover outright in a single win. So people tend to go ham during these situations and actually push through instead of cutting their losses and stopping from there, which as we all expect leads to them losing more money than they know how to work with.
Losing will either make you more greedy or make you go home without any take home profit, the greed starts here and I'm also guilty of this. We might not accept that being greedy is like this but eventually once you cannot control your emotion, that can still be consider as greed. Winning will make you more eager to get more pleasure, and I see this as a normal result once you gamble. What you can do to control this is to be more responsible and to stay focus on your strategy and goal, the moment you enter a casino or any site, you should be more ready for whatever the outcome is. And, what you mentioned might also become the reason for someone to get addicted to gambling, but that barely happens because most of the time, when you try recovering your money, you tend to lose even more, and most gamblers stop right there because they see they are getting nothing out of it.
Greed can come from a place of abundance or lacking. But it's what you would do in response to it that really matters in the long run. Do you push to gamble more? Do you cut your wins and losses and go home for the day?
If you are onto gambling for the first time it's not possible to get addicted to gambling because you haven't tasted what winning feels like, you will be consumed by doubts and uncertainty.
But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?
We have had a lot of conversations about gambling addiction, but I had the same conversation with someone close yesterday and this was my answer to him.
Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?
I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.
But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?
We have had a lot of conversations about gambling addiction, but I had the same conversation with someone close yesterday and this was my answer to him.
Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?
I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.
I think addiction can easily arise even with losses, when it seems to the player that he was a little lacking to win, and therefore he continues to play further. Admittedly, casinos are masterful in creating this feeling for gamblers. But given the fact that I know some examples personally, I can say that the likelihood of addiction is higher if the player wins from the very beginning of his "career" of the gambler. One bright positive experience subsequently covers all subsequent negative and the gambler is constantly trying to reproduce his first success and as a result, in total, goes into a deep minus.
In my opinion, the first taste of victory does not cause gambling addiction and only provokes a novice to further study gambling, but when behind your back will be enough wins and losses and you get used to the production of dopamine during gambling and instead of meeting with friends you will give preference to the casino, that's when you will definitely have a gambling addiction. In my opinion it is not gambling addiction that is scary, but irresponsibility of a gambler.
A novice won't start gambling without understanding how it works. An initial win would further cement his belief that gambling can be a source of income. As things progress and loss start accumulating that novice would try to gamble more in order to cover the loss. This is where they would make the mistake of using the money that they cannot afford to lose. Then they would try to borrow money from friends and family. If they win big they are able to repay the borrowed amount if not then they would find others to borrow and ultimately fall into the gambling debt trap. Reckless gambling is nothing but getting overconfident with the ability to make a win.
Perhaps the first winnings and encourages the beginner, but the first loss makes even a beginner to think. Today, when the mobile Internet is at hand almost every person to read an article about gambling can every beginner. In order to find out your chances of winning in a particular gambling game does not need to study the theory of probability or mathematical theory of gambling because this information is easy to find out on Google. Yes, and almost every article about gambling says that constantly make money through gambling is almost impossible.
I think you are wrong on this. What the OP is talking about is the scenario of someone who gambles for the first time, and what you say is true but when he has been gambling for a long time. So someone who has been gambling for a while and has developed addiction or other problematic behaviour if they have a losing streak will try to chase their losses, go for more money or even borrow it, but someone who is starting out and losing money gets bored and doesn't gamble when they lose the money they have decided to gamble.
A person who comes to gambling for the very first time may feel a lot of excitement but at the same time, he may be fearful too of losing the money. He would have mixed emotions initially.I think if he loses his first few games, he may say bad words about gambling or maybe quit it for some time but if he wins, he would be happy but he would not become addicted to it. Addiction only starts when you play too much gambling that all the losses won't matter to you and you still keep on playing. I would call it a state of mind, where the gamblers fail to understand the drawback of excessive gambling.
As you said, if a person faces losses on their first-ever gambling session, they will most likely not gamble again very soon, maybe after a lot of time when they forget about their previous losses, they might gamble again, but when they manage to win, they can't help but think about it all the time.
In my opinion, the first taste of victory does not cause gambling addiction and only provokes a novice to further study gambling, but when behind your back will be enough wins and losses and you get used to the production of dopamine during gambling and instead of meeting with friends you will give preference to the casino, that's when you will definitely have a gambling addiction. In my opinion it is not gambling addiction that is scary, but irresponsibility of a gambler.
A novice won't start gambling without understanding how it works. An initial win would further cement his belief that gambling can be a source of income. As things progress and loss start accumulating that novice would try to gamble more in order to cover the loss. This is where they would make the mistake of using the money that they cannot afford to lose. Then they would try to borrow money from friends and family. If they win big they are able to repay the borrowed amount if not then they would find others to borrow and ultimately fall into the gambling debt trap. Reckless gambling is nothing but getting overconfident with the ability to make a win.
I totally get what you're saying. Starting out, it's like dipping your toes in the water—you're not really sure what to expect, right? But once you get that first taste of victory, things can shift. It's like this rush, and suddenly you're thinking, "Hey, there might be more where that came from!" That's where things can get tricky, and the whole gambling addiction thing starts creeping in.
In my opinion, the first taste of victory does not cause gambling addiction and only provokes a novice to further study gambling, but when behind your back will be enough wins and losses and you get used to the production of dopamine during gambling and instead of meeting with friends you will give preference to the casino, that's when you will definitely have a gambling addiction. In my opinion it is not gambling addiction that is scary, but irresponsibility of a gambler.
If you are onto gambling for the first time it's not possible to get addicted to gambling because you haven't tasted what winning feels like, you will be consumed by doubts and uncertainty.
But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?
We have had a lot of conversations about gambling addiction, but I had the same conversation with someone close yesterday and this was my answer to him.
Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?
I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.
But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?
We have had a lot of conversations about gambling addiction, but I had the same conversation with someone close yesterday and this was my answer to him.
Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?
I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.
When you haven't won a dime and no one you know won anything, you can't become addicted because there'd be nothing to become addicted to. When you win, you feel good, and want that feeling again. If alcohol wouldn't make you feel good, there would be no alcoholics. Same with gambling: who wants just spend their time and money and get nothing in return?
But it's not like everyone who wins big becomes addicted right away. It's only those greedy for money and excitement. They don't realize that our brain adapts quickly, and you need more and more in the future to feel the same. That leads to "gambling recklessly" and "betting higher", you mentioned. To not end up there, you should be betting smaller and less often.
If you are onto gambling for the first time it's not possible to get addicted to gambling because you haven't tasted what winning feels like, you will be consumed by doubts and uncertainty.
But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?
We have had a lot of conversations about gambling addiction, but I had the same conversation with someone close yesterday and this was my answer to him.
Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?
I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.
But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?
We have had a lot of conversations about gambling addiction, but I had the same conversation with someone close yesterday and this was my answer to him.
Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?
I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.
When you haven't won a dime and no one you know won anything, you can't become addicted because there'd be nothing to become addicted to. When you win, you feel good, and want that feeling again. If alcohol wouldn't make you feel good, there would be no alcoholics. Same with gambling: who wants just spend their time and money and get nothing in return?
But it's not like everyone who wins big becomes addicted right away. It's only those greedy for money and excitement. They don't realize that our brain adapts quickly, and you need more and more in the future to feel the same. That leads to "gambling recklessly" and "betting higher", you mentioned. To not end up there, you should be betting smaller and less often.
Experienced gamblers can control their lust and desire, while amateur will always think that they can take money if they will continue to try,
The rest of it will be dictate with what the outcome will turn. Worst, an amateur will turn to addicted gambler.
The rest of it will be dictate with what the outcome will turn. Worst, an amateur will turn to addicted gambler.
It’s not about controlling lust and desire but rather they learn how to be satisfied when they play gambling because they knew exactly what their goal on gambling. If peope can control lust and desire then they shouldn’t gamble already but instead control it within themselves.
As an experienced gambler, I cherish all my gamblin games win or lose and this makes me entertained when gambling including the short pain when losing my money. An amateur addicted gambler doesn’t know what they really want to get and blindly gambling just to chase their unknown profit target.
It's easy to say your target but once your lust and desire dominated you that target will be forgotten, it's more on how you control and how good you are in preventing any excess, being satisfied might be a factor but most of the time when you are involve into gambling greed is something that dominates you.
Good thing that you can cherish everything, including your losses, as most of the time gambler who suffer from defeats always wanted to try to recover back and it leads them into addictions.
of course they will prefer to control themselves well even though they have experienced the same problem in the past but experienced gamblers will have good control in the future without doing bad things again unless addiction continues to destroy self control. but sometimes experienced gamblers sometimes still make mistakes in the future when one day a losing streak occurs and he loses control and is more emotional to be motivated to chase these losses but it rarely happens like that.
I think all of this is just about self control which we say is easy but very difficult to do because gambling risks money so when you lose the money regret and the feeling of wanting to take the money back is always in the gambler mind.
Experienced gamblers should have more self-control because they learn to control themselves over time. And the problems they experienced in the past will not be repeated with the learning about self-control that they do from time to time. And it is true that experienced gamblers still make mistakes because they are still human beings who can still make mistakes in the future. But at least their self-control will improve with that learning so that they become more controlled and unemotional in gambling. I agree that all of this is about self-control that every gambler must have so they will not lose a lot of money in gambling.I think all of this is just about self control which we say is easy but very difficult to do because gambling risks money so when you lose the money regret and the feeling of wanting to take the money back is always in the gambler mind.
Best thing to adopt is when you learn from your experienced, and that's the big edge of those experienced gamblers who manage to learn how to control things while inside gambling, knowing the set limits and try not to exceed helps them to prevent big losses, though still not a guarantee that they won't lose but it lessen the chance that they will burn all of their bankroll.
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of course they will prefer to control themselves well even though they have experienced the same problem in the past but experienced gamblers will have good control in the future without doing bad things again unless addiction continues to destroy self control. but sometimes experienced gamblers sometimes still make mistakes in the future when one day a losing streak occurs and he loses control and is more emotional to be motivated to chase these losses but it rarely happens like that.
I think all of this is just about self control which we say is easy but very difficult to do because gambling risks money so when you lose the money regret and the feeling of wanting to take the money back is always in the gambler mind.
Experienced gamblers should have more self-control because they learn to control themselves over time. And the problems they experienced in the past will not be repeated with the learning about self-control that they do from time to time. And it is true that experienced gamblers still make mistakes because they are still human beings who can still make mistakes in the future. But at least their self-control will improve with that learning so that they become more controlled and unemotional in gambling. I agree that all of this is about self-control that every gambler must have so they will not lose a lot of money in gambling. I think all of this is just about self control which we say is easy but very difficult to do because gambling risks money so when you lose the money regret and the feeling of wanting to take the money back is always in the gambler mind.
We have different individual approach or mindset towards gambling from my own personal perspective winning a bet doesn't set off addiction in me because I knew gambling is a game of chance and luck thus a consistent winning streaks isn't possible and never guaranteed in most cases I do withdraw my winnings after two or three wins and left with the small fund for staking another bet rather than leaving the whole funds with hope of staking high to win massively that is when addiction and greediness will set in, however when I lose the only small fund for betting I prefer to fund my account with the same amount of fund just to avoid addiction and chasing my losses.
I agree that putting a limitation on how much you deposit could be the most important part. That allows you to end up gambling as much as you can and earn as much as you can but it does end up putting a limit on how much you could lose.This means that the result will be something better and the return will be greater whereas the loss will not be all that big. I end up earning some money time to time but I do not end up losing a lot because no matter how much I win, the deposit is there and it's limited and I will not redeposit more neither. So I could lose from the earnings, as in I could deposit 100 dollars, and still lose 1000 dollars, how? I could turn that 100 into 1000 and then lose it all. But in the end all I lost was 100 dollars to me.
Experienced gamblers can control their lust and desire, while amateur will always think that they can take money if they will continue to try,
The rest of it will be dictate with what the outcome will turn. Worst, an amateur will turn to addicted gambler.
The rest of it will be dictate with what the outcome will turn. Worst, an amateur will turn to addicted gambler.
It’s not about controlling lust and desire but rather they learn how to be satisfied when they play gambling because they knew exactly what their goal on gambling. If peope can control lust and desire then they shouldn’t gamble already but instead control it within themselves.
As an experienced gambler, I cherish all my gamblin games win or lose and this makes me entertained when gambling including the short pain when losing my money. An amateur addicted gambler doesn’t know what they really want to get and blindly gambling just to chase their unknown profit target.
So there is an amateur addict and there is a seasoned addict lol
The seasoned addict my guess is already satisfied and can just quit at any moment if he decides. The majority of the newbie that is hooked on winning money through the casino is often going to chase the loss since every gambler is doing it to win some of them are even planning to stop when they win their capital back. Only to find out later, they decide to roll again thinking why can't he just double his capital before stopping.
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