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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 07, 2023, 04:02:43 AM

Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?

I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.

You are right that addiction starts after someone wins, but there are also those who vice versa addiction starts when playing and multiples of doubles (eg 500x) pass you by. So that encourages the person to chase the multiples that he has seen before and hope to get them in the next bet. There are many more factors to the addiction starts, like seeing a close friend win while he loses. As a result, jealousy arose again and wanted to try it again at the casino, hoping that his fate would be the same as what his friends experienced. I often witness this kind of phenomenon in my neighborhood where some people who gamble online lure newbies to addiction. You know for yourself that an invitation from a friend is always difficult to refuse.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 07, 2023, 04:02:43 AM

If you are onto gambling for the first time it's not possible to get addicted to gambling because you haven't tasted what winning feels like, you will be consumed by doubts and uncertainty.

But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?

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No, gambling addiction starts not only when you get a win but when you experience defeat it can also cause a high curiosity to win and keep trying to continue playing or betting until you are addicted.
There are many people out there who often lose but are even more active in gambling, so it would not be right to say that the cause of gambling addiction is only when you get or feel a win.
First entered the gambling industry, of course you would lose more often, but over time you still gamble to be able to have a win and keep trying until curiosity has enveloped your life to keep betting.

I strongly agree with you. Sometimes people who started doing gambling are just bored and just want to discover something exiting until they experience the adrenaline rush they get from gambling by risking something like money. Some people like reclaiming their losses and just want to plainly defeat casinos. Each defeat they get gives more reason why they should stay long in a casino to get revenge from their losses no matter what.

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People who have addictive tendencies will always have that "one more" mindset in them thinking that if they continue what they're doing, they're going to get a positive outcome if they dig deeper, or in this case play more. Be it a win or lose, gambling addicts will always see something out of reason to justify their actions. They'll even call it fate for the to win or destiny or whatever it is that you call it.

I rarely win, though it still got me 'hooked' before in gambling. It doesn't matter what outcome it is that you get in gambling - you will always get hooked to it if you are really inclined to gamble.

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As far as I know someone gambling has a diverse and broad understanding, about the addiction factor.

As you say here, it probably makes sense.

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 07, 2023, 04:02:43 AM

I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.

If this is what you mean.

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 07, 2023, 04:02:43 AM

Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?

For me this is not addiction, but rather leads to 'curiosity'. This factor is more dangerous than addiction, they can make bets without calculation and reckless, what's more, they had time to watch demos betting, their curiosity peaked, they want to do like those demo bettors, bet like a trance and on top of addiction, that's more dangerous, if someone wants to gamble based on the curiosity factor, want to try like them, want to win and so on, without winning at all, but it looks like people have gambled for decades.

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What I feel as per my experience is that you get a gut feeling after you make a first win that your golden era has started. In most cases you would win a few more times then you start losing. That confidence is basically nothing but overconfidence when you start winning. Within those times you would feel like every bet that you place would come out with a positive outcome and this is where your mind plays tricks with you. As a gambler, you would bet with all the money you have and the next thing that would happen is that you will lose everything. This is what I feel is called reckless gambling as you start feeling that you are invincible resulting in complete loss.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 07, 2023, 04:02:43 AM

Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?

I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.

You can’t be addicted to something that you can’t get any satisfaction results by doing it. Person who doesn’t win a dime by gambling will surely never comeback again since there's nothing to look forward by playing it. Your analysis is correct that a person can only be addicted if he already feel the happines of winning because that's what makes people addicted and not the games since gambling games is available to play for free while winning money can only be attained by risking through bets.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 07, 2023, 04:02:43 AM

Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?

I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.

We really can't generalize to every individual. there are people who gamble once in their life, regardless of winning or losing. there are also people who win from gambling, then stop right away, there are various stories in everyone. The point is, it doesn't have to be the same all the time.

Referring to what you said, actually as I said above. that in every case it will always be different even though in essence it is the same, both are gambling addicts. So, I don't know where to start. but generally, it is excessive habit that makes us addicted. whatever it is, it doesn't just have to be on gambling. excessive habit, will make you addicted especially if it attracts your attention. like when we gamble, in essence it all comes back to each individual. Winning a bet at the start of a gambling session for the first time is a lot of fun, but it doesn't mean that we become gambling addicts. The point is, I don't have the data and scientific research to make assumptions about this discussion. so, I only draw conclusions according to my personal understanding.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on August 07, 2023, 08:20:36 AM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 07, 2023, 04:02:43 AM

If you are onto gambling for the first time it's not possible to get addicted to gambling because you haven't tasted what winning feels like, you will be consumed by doubts and uncertainty.

Early winning especially for new gamblers will give them the wrong idea thinking that this is the right place to stay as they thought that gambling would make them rich. They'll never know exactly what awaits them in the next couple of these of gambling. Many speculations arise and base on my experience, especially in these online games, there is a sort of manipulation as we usually win on the very first day and this is a trick to help you encourage to gamble and spend more. And after a short happiness and winning, worse things happen and that is an absolute loss.

I agree with that to some extent because early winning could give a newbie gambler the impression that the games are easily won and at the same time make him want to gamble more than necessary which could result in a regrettable experience, but this can mostly affect only newbies and not old members who already have experience of have unpredictability in gambling.

And it is most likely that a newbie who hit a winning stride in the first bet will definitely be tempted to continue excessively if not properly guided by an old timer in gambling.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 07, 2023, 04:02:43 AM

I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.

Nah, that’s not entirely true for everyone.

There are some that get addicted after experiencing a big and then feel they can win more if they continue to play while they are some that even without winning they still get addicted. Take for example those that chase after their losses, once a gambler starts to chase after his losses, the risk of him becoming addicted increases exponentially.

Although, if you carry out a quick survey of those that are aware of the fact that they are addicted to Gambling you’ll find that majority of they did indeed win some pretty amount at their early age in gambling while the rest haven’t been opportune to win that amount but yet they keep hoping they can win and because of that they still keep gambling.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 07, 2023, 04:02:43 AM

If you are onto gambling for the first time it's not possible to get addicted to gambling because you haven't tasted what winning feels like, you will be consumed by doubts and uncertainty.

Early winning especially for new gamblers will give them the wrong idea thinking that this is the right place to stay as they thought that gambling would make them rich. They'll never know exactly what awaits them in the next couple of these of gambling. Many speculations arise and base on my experience, especially these online games, there is a sort of manipulations as we usually win on the very first day and this is a trick to help you encourage to gamble and spend more. And after a short happiness and winning, worse things happen and that is an absolute lose.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 07, 2023, 04:02:43 AM

Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?

It's a case-to-case basis there are gamblers who get hooked after their first win, their mindset, and motivation are, there is big money to be made in gambling and they just have to be organized and create a winning method, and there are gamblers who are challenged because they see some people winning a lot, and they are challenged that if other people can do it why not me and they feel that they are superior to other people that is why they get hooked and always on the look for his winning trail.

There will always be a point for gamblers that become reckless and uncontrol because it has something to do with dopamine, they feel that gambling gave them a superior feeling every bet and every win is something that excite them and rewarding for them if they hit a win.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on August 07, 2023, 06:12:02 AM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 07, 2023, 04:02:43 AM

But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?

Gambling addiction is not only when you have won bet. I think if you have won, what happens is that you have more money at that time to play and you want to increase your staking power but the real addiction should be the reverse. If you have not won a game, you are most likely going to keep playing because you want to taste it and retrieve all your lost money, so if you keep losing then you are playing more, that leads to addiction. Someone who wins a game may run away than someone who has not won.

Well, I think gambling addiction goes in both ways this is because even when the gambler either winss or loses their both could lead to addiction or all depends on how the individual decides to handle the whole situation and what matters most is if and when the player decides to chase a particular direction be it losing or winning that drives him into possible addictions, I have a personal view that in every winning there is always an ln extra two games ahead even if the gambler has earlier intentions of taking a break and in doing so, is what lead to addiction because doing that consistently will tie the gambler down.

Same as losing because when a gambler record a loss it is obvious that he will chase after that loses and in doing that, that is what leads to excessive gambling and if not checked could slide into gambling addictions.

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Actually, I think things like this depend on the perspective and each person who does gambling.
Because in other situations, there will also be conditions where when someone loses and feels challenged to continue gambling in the hope that they will win after getting a loss and this will also feel more obsessed because they want a return on previous losses.

This kind of behavior I think almost everyone who does gambling must have felt considering that even though maybe now they can control themselves but almost everyone has felt where they are obsessed with gambling whether they are losing or winning.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 07, 2023, 04:02:43 AM

I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.

That's true. You wouldn't expect someone to get addicted after repeating to fail every time, would you?
You need some wins, preferably balanced with losses, so that one time you lose $100, next you win $200 and then you again lose $100. After a month you'll be at 0 but you will still remember that time when you won $200 and will keep on trying to repeat it.
Gamblers who keep losing usually don't get hooked but discouraged and grow a feeling of resentment towards gambling.

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Quote from: coin-investor on August 07, 2023, 06:17:47 AM

There's such a thing as beginner's luck but its hard when it happens in gambling because your confidence will grow that you will think that you can make money from gambling, when in reality you cannot.

I have noticed this myself sometimes when I play certain type of game for the first time, I win but after that it doesn't really happen like that subsequently. Some people have argued that it is like a welcome that casino do to attract you into playing more but I doubt that is the case. I believe it is just a coincidence that it happened and not like a manipulation. But really it is attractive to play more when your first game appears to be a win it gives you more courage to try another bet.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 07, 2023, 04:02:43 AM

Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?

Most provably after you win.

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 07, 2023, 04:02:43 AM

I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.

The satisfaction rate is different when you lose since maybe you will hate the game and leave since you didn't get what you expect.

Compare on winning for sure your urge to gamble for more is there since you want this to happen always then you always think about to gamble because you feel like you became lucky again and that's the cycle starts.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 07, 2023, 04:02:43 AM

If you are onto gambling for the first time it's not possible to get addicted to gambling because you haven't tasted what winning feels like, you will be consumed by doubts and uncertainty.

But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?

We have had a lot of conversations about gambling addiction, but I had the same conversation with someone close yesterday and this was my answer to him.

Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?

I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.

And if you won early, that's what we call "beginner's luck", and actually it's a curse, because ones you taste that feeling of winning big, you are going to look for more of that experience, the adrenaline and that's what makes you a gambling addict.

On the other hand, I also do believed that you can be addicted as well if you haven't won any yet. Why? It's because you want to come back for more, try to chase your lost and recoup everything.

So gambling is really very dangerous, as both losing and winning in the beginning will have a dire consequences in the end.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 07, 2023, 04:02:43 AM

Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?

I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.

In my case after a month of playing, it's hard when you win your first bet, you will have a misconception that gambling is easy and you are lucky in gambling, I learned when trying to win that you have a house edge to deal and no method that you can think of where you can beat the house.
There's such a thing as beginner's luck but its hard when it happens in gambling because your confidence will grow that you will think that you can make money from gambling, when in reality you cannot.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 07, 2023, 04:02:43 AM

But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?

Gambling addiction is not only when you have won bet. I think if you have won, what happens is that you have more money at that time to play and you want to increase your staking power but the real addiction should be the reverse. If you have not won a game, you are most likely going to keep playing because you want to taste it and retrieve all your lost money, so if you keep losing then you are playing more, that leads to addiction. Someone who wins a game may run away than someone who has not won.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 07, 2023, 04:02:43 AM

If you are onto gambling for the first time it's not possible to get addicted to gambling because you haven't tasted what winning feels like, you will be consumed by doubts and uncertainty.

But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?

We have had a lot of conversations about gambling addiction, but I had the same conversation with someone close yesterday and this was my answer to him.

Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?

I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.

You're right winning can trigger an addiction for gambling is a bettor gets carried away by their winnings and forget the risk involved thereby staking recklessly to earn more that's when the person is likely to become an addict, but that's not the only criteria for gambling addiction because there are people are addicts today, I've come across one or two that says that they barely benefit from but continue because they don't want to lose out completely and would keep trying until they recover what they've lost in gambling.
Now that is one of the major reasons why there are many addicts presently not knowing when to quit, before you go into gambling you should already we are of it's risk and winning is not guaranteed so if you lose and refuse to give up you might end up losing more or spend funds meant for other important things, people fail to acknowledge their lose and try to recover I thereby losing more, in my opinion you could quit for a while restrategies and try again later.

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