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legendary
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I take the last link, it being the ONLY scientific one you have presented.  Read what it says.

http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes

It is premature to conclude that human activities--and particularly greenhouse gas emissions that cause global warming--have already had a detectable impact on Atlantic hurricane or global tropical cyclone activity.

If you have to lie to support your position, doesn't your position have a problem?

Hurricanes are becoming more frequent and stronger. For god sakes simply take the data, take the number of hurricanes by year since 1900 and you'll see.

What I have told you is if you do that, you will see the position is false.

Lying again?
I quote myself here. Just reread the whole text not only what you want:

Quote
They all say the same thing:
Hurricanes are becoming more frequent and stronger. For god sakes simply take the data, take the number of hurricanes by year since 1900 and you'll see.

What we still don't know is if it's directly linked to human activity. It may also be part of a natural cycle. So nobody is saying it's because of global warming, everybody is saying it MIGHT be because of it.

We'll know it un a dozen of years. If hurricanes keep becoming stronger and more frequent we'll know it came from us.
Well, which is it?

A.  Hurricanes are becoming more frequent and stronger. For god sakes simply take the data, take the number of hurricanes by year since 1900 and you'll see.

B.  We'll know it un a dozen of years.

(A) is false.  (B) is a future claim.



I don't understand how you can't see the difference.

A is right. And all articles (including the one you quoted) says so. What would be wrong would be to claim that it's all because of global warming because we still can't say if it's the case as it's too early!

But A is right.

I quoted the relevant paragraph from A.  Here it is again.

I take the last link, it being the ONLY scientific one you have presented.  Read what it says.

http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes

It is premature to conclude that human activities--and particularly greenhouse gas emissions that cause global warming--have already had a detectable impact on Atlantic hurricane or global tropical cyclone activity.


If you want to assert that the article supports (A) please quote where it does so.  Otherwise, lose what little credibility you have...
hero member
Activity: 675
Merit: 514
NOAA Radiosonde Data Shows No Warming For 58 Years
That's bullshit.
Here's the data, see for yourself:
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ratpac/ratpac-a/RATPAC-A-annual-levels.txt
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 252

I take the last link, it being the ONLY scientific one you have presented.  Read what it says.

http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes

It is premature to conclude that human activities--and particularly greenhouse gas emissions that cause global warming--have already had a detectable impact on Atlantic hurricane or global tropical cyclone activity.

If you have to lie to support your position, doesn't your position have a problem?

Hurricanes are becoming more frequent and stronger. For god sakes simply take the data, take the number of hurricanes by year since 1900 and you'll see.

What I have told you is if you do that, you will see the position is false.

Lying again?
I quote myself here. Just reread the whole text not only what you want:

Quote
They all say the same thing:
Hurricanes are becoming more frequent and stronger. For god sakes simply take the data, take the number of hurricanes by year since 1900 and you'll see.

What we still don't know is if it's directly linked to human activity. It may also be part of a natural cycle. So nobody is saying it's because of global warming, everybody is saying it MIGHT be because of it.

We'll know it un a dozen of years. If hurricanes keep becoming stronger and more frequent we'll know it came from us.
Well, which is it?

A.  Hurricanes are becoming more frequent and stronger. For god sakes simply take the data, take the number of hurricanes by year since 1900 and you'll see.

B.  We'll know it un a dozen of years.

(A) is false.  (B) is a future claim.



I don't understand how you can't see the difference.

A is right. And all articles (including the one you quoted) says so. What would be wrong would be to claim that it's all because of global warming because we still can't say if it's the case as it's too early!

But A is right.
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1386

I take the last link, it being the ONLY scientific one you have presented.  Read what it says.

http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes

It is premature to conclude that human activities--and particularly greenhouse gas emissions that cause global warming--have already had a detectable impact on Atlantic hurricane or global tropical cyclone activity.

If you have to lie to support your position, doesn't your position have a problem?

Hurricanes are becoming more frequent and stronger. For god sakes simply take the data, take the number of hurricanes by year since 1900 and you'll see.

What I have told you is if you do that, you will see the position is false.

Lying again?
I quote myself here. Just reread the whole text not only what you want:

Quote
They all say the same thing:
Hurricanes are becoming more frequent and stronger. For god sakes simply take the data, take the number of hurricanes by year since 1900 and you'll see.

What we still don't know is if it's directly linked to human activity. It may also be part of a natural cycle. So nobody is saying it's because of global warming, everybody is saying it MIGHT be because of it.

We'll know it un a dozen of years. If hurricanes keep becoming stronger and more frequent we'll know it came from us.
Well, which is it?

A.  Hurricanes are becoming more frequent and stronger. For god sakes simply take the data, take the number of hurricanes by year since 1900 and you'll see.

B.  We'll know it un a dozen of years.

(A) is false.  (B) is a future claim.

sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 252

I take the last link, it being the ONLY scientific one you have presented.  Read what it says.

http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes

It is premature to conclude that human activities--and particularly greenhouse gas emissions that cause global warming--have already had a detectable impact on Atlantic hurricane or global tropical cyclone activity.

If you have to lie to support your position, doesn't your position have a problem?

Hurricanes are becoming more frequent and stronger. For god sakes simply take the data, take the number of hurricanes by year since 1900 and you'll see.

What I have told you is if you do that, you will see the position is false.

Lying again?
I quote myself here. Just reread the whole text not only what you want:

Quote
They all say the same thing:
Hurricanes are becoming more frequent and stronger. For god sakes simply take the data, take the number of hurricanes by year since 1900 and you'll see.

What we still don't know is if it's directly linked to human activity. It may also be part of a natural cycle. So nobody is saying it's because of global warming, everybody is saying it MIGHT be because of it.

We'll know it un a dozen of years. If hurricanes keep becoming stronger and more frequent we'll know it came from us.
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1386


Not banning any point of view is not stupid nor illogical. Unlike reddit.



Freedom of speech is good. Ok. Does it mean we have to take in consideration each and every point of view in the world, including those based on false informations or without any logic?
Unfortunately for you, the very subject being discussed in the article on hurricane frequency and intensity is false information - propaganda - used by Warmers in crying hysterically over more and more intense hurricanes.

There has been NO significant trend in hurricane intensity or frequency since 1900.  Simple statistical fact.  Please stop the lying, and stop supporting others who are doing the lying about this.

No of course not. Except this list of article:
http://www.windows2universe.org/earth/climate/hurricane_climate.html
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/study-projects-more-frequent-and-stronger-hurricanes-worldwide-16204
http://time.com/3706888/hurricane-warning-study/
https://www.skepticalscience.com/hurricanes-global-warming.htm
http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes

They all say the same thing:
Hurricanes are becoming more frequent and stronger. For god sakes simply take the data, take the number of hurricanes by year since 1900 and you'll see.


What we still don't know is if it's directly linked to human activity. It may also be part of a natural cycle. So nobody is saying it's because of global warming, everybody is saying it MIGHT be because of it.

We'll know it un a dozen of years. If hurricanes keep becoming stronger and more frequent we'll know it came from us.

I take the last link, it being the ONLY scientific one you have presented.  Read what it says.

http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes

It is premature to conclude that human activities--and particularly greenhouse gas emissions that cause global warming--have already had a detectable impact on Atlantic hurricane or global tropical cyclone activity.

If you have to lie to support your position, doesn't your position have a problem?

Hurricanes are becoming more frequent and stronger. For god sakes simply take the data, take the number of hurricanes by year since 1900 and you'll see.

What I have told you is if you do that, you will see the position is false.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 252


Not banning any point of view is not stupid nor illogical. Unlike reddit.



Freedom of speech is good. Ok. Does it mean we have to take in consideration each and every point of view in the world, including those based on false informations or without any logic?
Unfortunately for you, the very subject being discussed in the article on hurricane frequency and intensity is false information - propaganda - used by Warmers in crying hysterically over more and more intense hurricanes.

There has been NO significant trend in hurricane intensity or frequency since 1900.  Simple statistical fact.  Please stop the lying, and stop supporting others who are doing the lying about this.

No of course not. Except this list of article:
http://www.windows2universe.org/earth/climate/hurricane_climate.html
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/study-projects-more-frequent-and-stronger-hurricanes-worldwide-16204
http://time.com/3706888/hurricane-warning-study/
https://www.skepticalscience.com/hurricanes-global-warming.htm
http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes

They all say the same thing:
Hurricanes are becoming more frequent and stronger. For god sakes simply take the data, take the number of hurricanes by year since 1900 and you'll see.

What we still don't know is if it's directly linked to human activity. It may also be part of a natural cycle. So nobody is saying it's because of global warming, everybody is saying it MIGHT be because of it.

We'll know it un a dozen of years. If hurricanes keep becoming stronger and more frequent we'll know it came from us.
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1386


Not banning any point of view is not stupid nor illogical. Unlike reddit.



Freedom of speech is good. Ok. Does it mean we have to take in consideration each and every point of view in the world, including those based on false informations or without any logic?
Unfortunately for you, the very subject being discussed in the article on hurricane frequency and intensity is false information - propaganda - used by Warmers in crying hysterically over more and more intense hurricanes.

There has been NO significant trend in hurricane intensity or frequency since 1900.  Simple statistical fact.  Please stop the lying, and stop supporting others who are doing the lying about this.
hero member
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NOAA Radiosonde Data Shows No Warming For 58 Years


In their “hottest year ever” press briefing, NOAA included this graph, which stated that they have a 58 year long radiosonde temperature record. But they only showed the last 37 years in the graph.


http://realclimatescience.com/2016/03/noaa-radiosonde-data-shows-no-warming-for-58-years/


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I was led to believe I needed to trust blindly all the Global Warming scientists working from my government, or working for the Green Energy Polar Bear Saving complex.

Why are those people denying me from my belief?





This actual argument is: as it has already been hot in the past it's not hot right now?

What an argument xD+
legendary
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NOAA Radiosonde Data Shows No Warming For 58 Years


In their “hottest year ever” press briefing, NOAA included this graph, which stated that they have a 58 year long radiosonde temperature record. But they only showed the last 37 years in the graph.


http://realclimatescience.com/2016/03/noaa-radiosonde-data-shows-no-warming-for-58-years/


----------------------------------------
I was led to believe I needed to trust blindly all the Global Warming scientists working from my government, or working for the Green Energy Polar Bear Saving complex.

Why are those people denying me from my belief?



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Ten years after Katrina: let’s learn from those predictions of more & bigger hurricanes


Summary — Most 10-year anniversary articles about Katrina omit one chapter of that sad story: its exploitation by climate activists. They predicted more and stronger hurricanes. Let’s grade them. Every time activists falsely cry “wolf” we become weaker, less able to prepare for real threats. Remembering is the first step to learning.

“Sooner or later, everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences.”
— Attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson.

Contents


    Katrina and Wilma hit America.
    Alarmists exploit the disaster.
    Hurricanes go MIA.
    Forecasts of  hurricanes.
    Conclusions.




http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/08/27/ten-years-after-katrina-lets-learn-from-those-predictions-of-more-bigger-hurricanes/




This article is actually saying that hurricanes will come more numerous and stronger but that people will be badly prepared because Climate change scientists warned them? Oo

How can you support such a claim?


You will be surprised to learn this thread, unlike reddit, is about not banning any thoughts, perspectives, hypothesis. Yes, coming from your point of view, this revelation is shockingly new and unheard of...

  Cool




Dude... It's not "new and unheard of". It's stupid.

What your article says is:
-Climate change scientists predicted a rise of hurricanes strength and numbers
-it will happen
-they'll be responsible for alarming people

What's the logic in this?

Not banning any point of view is not stupid nor illogical. Unlike reddit.



It's not a question of banning. It's a question of not bringing on the table things that are not logical.

Or maybe I should bring in an article talking about how Obama is in fact an alien secretly fighting global warming because aliens want Earth to be cold when they'll invade it?

But it's not really useful...

Its not really useful but you still added to the discussion.
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 529


Not banning any point of view is not stupid nor illogical. Unlike reddit.



Freedom of speech is good. Ok. Does it mean we have to take in consideration each and every point of view in the world, including those based on false informations or without any logic?
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250



Ten years after Katrina: let’s learn from those predictions of more & bigger hurricanes


Summary — Most 10-year anniversary articles about Katrina omit one chapter of that sad story: its exploitation by climate activists. They predicted more and stronger hurricanes. Let’s grade them. Every time activists falsely cry “wolf” we become weaker, less able to prepare for real threats. Remembering is the first step to learning.

“Sooner or later, everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences.”
— Attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson.

Contents


    Katrina and Wilma hit America.
    Alarmists exploit the disaster.
    Hurricanes go MIA.
    Forecasts of  hurricanes.
    Conclusions.




http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/08/27/ten-years-after-katrina-lets-learn-from-those-predictions-of-more-bigger-hurricanes/




This article is actually saying that hurricanes will come more numerous and stronger but that people will be badly prepared because Climate change scientists warned them? Oo

How can you support such a claim?


You will be surprised to learn this thread, unlike reddit, is about not banning any thoughts, perspectives, hypothesis. Yes, coming from your point of view, this revelation is shockingly new and unheard of...

  Cool




Dude... It's not "new and unheard of". It's stupid.

What your article says is:
-Climate change scientists predicted a rise of hurricanes strength and numbers
-it will happen
-they'll be responsible for alarming people

What's the logic in this?

Not banning any point of view is not stupid nor illogical. Unlike reddit.



It's not a question of banning. It's a question of not bringing on the table things that are not logical.

Or maybe I should bring in an article talking about how Obama is in fact an alien secretly fighting global warming because aliens want Earth to be cold when they'll invade it?

But it's not really useful...
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon



Ten years after Katrina: let’s learn from those predictions of more & bigger hurricanes


Summary — Most 10-year anniversary articles about Katrina omit one chapter of that sad story: its exploitation by climate activists. They predicted more and stronger hurricanes. Let’s grade them. Every time activists falsely cry “wolf” we become weaker, less able to prepare for real threats. Remembering is the first step to learning.

“Sooner or later, everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences.”
— Attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson.

Contents


    Katrina and Wilma hit America.
    Alarmists exploit the disaster.
    Hurricanes go MIA.
    Forecasts of  hurricanes.
    Conclusions.




http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/08/27/ten-years-after-katrina-lets-learn-from-those-predictions-of-more-bigger-hurricanes/




This article is actually saying that hurricanes will come more numerous and stronger but that people will be badly prepared because Climate change scientists warned them? Oo

How can you support such a claim?


You will be surprised to learn this thread, unlike reddit, is about not banning any thoughts, perspectives, hypothesis. Yes, coming from your point of view, this revelation is shockingly new and unheard of...

  Cool




Dude... It's not "new and unheard of". It's stupid.

What your article says is:
-Climate change scientists predicted a rise of hurricanes strength and numbers
-it will happen
-they'll be responsible for alarming people

What's the logic in this?

Not banning any point of view is not stupid nor illogical. Unlike reddit.

sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250



Ten years after Katrina: let’s learn from those predictions of more & bigger hurricanes


Summary — Most 10-year anniversary articles about Katrina omit one chapter of that sad story: its exploitation by climate activists. They predicted more and stronger hurricanes. Let’s grade them. Every time activists falsely cry “wolf” we become weaker, less able to prepare for real threats. Remembering is the first step to learning.

“Sooner or later, everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences.”
— Attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson.

Contents


    Katrina and Wilma hit America.
    Alarmists exploit the disaster.
    Hurricanes go MIA.
    Forecasts of  hurricanes.
    Conclusions.




http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/08/27/ten-years-after-katrina-lets-learn-from-those-predictions-of-more-bigger-hurricanes/




This article is actually saying that hurricanes will come more numerous and stronger but that people will be badly prepared because Climate change scientists warned them? Oo

How can you support such a claim?


You will be surprised to learn this thread, unlike reddit, is about not banning any thoughts, perspectives, hypothesis. Yes, coming from your point of view, this revelation is shockingly new and unheard of...

  Cool




Dude... It's not "new and unheard of". It's stupid.

What your article says is:
-Climate change scientists predicted a rise of hurricanes strength and numbers
-it will happen
-they'll be responsible for alarming people

What's the logic in this?
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon



Ten years after Katrina: let’s learn from those predictions of more & bigger hurricanes


Summary — Most 10-year anniversary articles about Katrina omit one chapter of that sad story: its exploitation by climate activists. They predicted more and stronger hurricanes. Let’s grade them. Every time activists falsely cry “wolf” we become weaker, less able to prepare for real threats. Remembering is the first step to learning.

“Sooner or later, everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences.”
— Attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson.

Contents


    Katrina and Wilma hit America.
    Alarmists exploit the disaster.
    Hurricanes go MIA.
    Forecasts of  hurricanes.
    Conclusions.




http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/08/27/ten-years-after-katrina-lets-learn-from-those-predictions-of-more-bigger-hurricanes/




This article is actually saying that hurricanes will come more numerous and stronger but that people will be badly prepared because Climate change scientists warned them? Oo

How can you support such a claim?


You will be surprised to learn this thread, unlike reddit, is about not banning any thoughts, perspectives, hypothesis. Yes, coming from your point of view, this revelation is shockingly new and unheard of...

  Cool


sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250



Ten years after Katrina: let’s learn from those predictions of more & bigger hurricanes


Summary — Most 10-year anniversary articles about Katrina omit one chapter of that sad story: its exploitation by climate activists. They predicted more and stronger hurricanes. Let’s grade them. Every time activists falsely cry “wolf” we become weaker, less able to prepare for real threats. Remembering is the first step to learning.

“Sooner or later, everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences.”
— Attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson.

Contents


    Katrina and Wilma hit America.
    Alarmists exploit the disaster.
    Hurricanes go MIA.
    Forecasts of  hurricanes.
    Conclusions.




http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/08/27/ten-years-after-katrina-lets-learn-from-those-predictions-of-more-bigger-hurricanes/




This article is actually saying that hurricanes will come more numerous and stronger but that people will be badly prepared because Climate change scientists warned them? Oo

How can you support such a claim?
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon



Ten years after Katrina: let’s learn from those predictions of more & bigger hurricanes


Summary — Most 10-year anniversary articles about Katrina omit one chapter of that sad story: its exploitation by climate activists. They predicted more and stronger hurricanes. Let’s grade them. Every time activists falsely cry “wolf” we become weaker, less able to prepare for real threats. Remembering is the first step to learning.

“Sooner or later, everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences.”
— Attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson.

Contents


    Katrina and Wilma hit America.
    Alarmists exploit the disaster.
    Hurricanes go MIA.
    Forecasts of  hurricanes.
    Conclusions.




http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/08/27/ten-years-after-katrina-lets-learn-from-those-predictions-of-more-bigger-hurricanes/


sr. member
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I dont follow anybody.  I live on the northern edge of the prairie in Canada where we are sensitive to temperature.  I was raised on a farm and we grew crops for a living.  Its not getting warmer here.  Besides this winter, which to me has be close to the winters i grew up in, if anything its getting much much colder.  I work outside, I alway have and probably always will.  We plant around Mothers day and it usually snows here after Halloween except now snow usually comes before halloween.  The growing season is getting shorter up here if anything.  I dont need some asshole at nasa to tell me its getting warmer when its not getting warmer up here.  I dont trust ground temperature records for the last 10-15 years for one reason.  It used to be average people recording temperatures up here.  Now everything is automated and 9 times out of 10 temperatures are recorded by unmanned equipment at airports.  I had a family member that used to do it and she got replaced by automated equipment that no one watches.  When somebodys life depends on the weather your going to tell me something else then my own eyes are telling me?

The fact that average temperature around the glob is rising doesn't mean it can't get colder in some places.

Rather the opposite in fact. climate being something incredibly sensitive it's logical any kind of change can have huge and various impact all around the world.

The fact that your family member was replaced by an automatic machine has nothing to do with this. Yell at capitalism.

yup yup rising everywhere else but here really makes sense and I suppose the rise in major hurricanes help your argument too.  I suppose the arctic is ice free and polar bears are disappearing too.  Where do you live?

Europe. And here it's getting more and more extreme. Temperatures records are broken every year so I see things differently from you I suppose.

Talking about hurricanes, compare the last 20years to last century:
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/E11.html

And yes rising globally meaning it disturbs the air streams and hence disturbs distribution of warmth around the earth makes sense.

Are you recording temperatures too or do you just believe everything you hear.  So the disturbed air streams arent melting the artic ice or are they?

I believe the national weather agency if that's what you ask. If you don't then it's complicated to think about anything you don't do yourself...

The theory is that global warming lead to ice melting which leads to change of salinity in the ocean which leads to change of air stream hence distribution of warmth.

Have you checked the hurricanes records? Cause they seem rather in a up trend to me...
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I dont follow anybody.  I live on the northern edge of the prairie in Canada where we are sensitive to temperature.  I was raised on a farm and we grew crops for a living.  Its not getting warmer here.  Besides this winter, which to me has be close to the winters i grew up in, if anything its getting much much colder.  I work outside, I alway have and probably always will.  We plant around Mothers day and it usually snows here after Halloween except now snow usually comes before halloween.  The growing season is getting shorter up here if anything.  I dont need some asshole at nasa to tell me its getting warmer when its not getting warmer up here.  I dont trust ground temperature records for the last 10-15 years for one reason.  It used to be average people recording temperatures up here.  Now everything is automated and 9 times out of 10 temperatures are recorded by unmanned equipment at airports.  I had a family member that used to do it and she got replaced by automated equipment that no one watches.  When somebodys life depends on the weather your going to tell me something else then my own eyes are telling me?

The fact that average temperature around the glob is rising doesn't mean it can't get colder in some places.

Rather the opposite in fact. climate being something incredibly sensitive it's logical any kind of change can have huge and various impact all around the world.

The fact that your family member was replaced by an automatic machine has nothing to do with this. Yell at capitalism.

yup yup rising everywhere else but here really makes sense and I suppose the rise in major hurricanes help your argument too.  I suppose the arctic is ice free and polar bears are disappearing too.  Where do you live?

Europe. And here it's getting more and more extreme. Temperatures records are broken every year so I see things differently from you I suppose.

Talking about hurricanes, compare the last 20years to last century:
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/E11.html

And yes rising globally meaning it disturbs the air streams and hence disturbs distribution of warmth around the earth makes sense.

Are you recording temperatures too or do you just believe everything you hear.  So the disturbed air streams arent melting the artic ice or are they?
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