Regulations in online Gambling sites - page 2.

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Quote from: Kasabus on August 28, 2020, 06:08:09 AM

Can our ISP still do that even if we are using VPN to mask our real IP address? I mean, can they know that we are accessing the gambling sites? It would be helpful to me if I get the right answer as I have friends that has an static IP who gambled without using VPN.

It would depend on your VPN, yes, but your ISP always tracks you the moment you connect, and not all VPNs are private enough or good enough that they can hide your trail. You've got to do a lot more than connect to a VPN these days (unless it's a good one). Every visit leaves an electronic breadcrumb.

Good VPN extensions ...

If you mean with "good VPN extensions" browser plugins which says they are VPNs then you are wrong. Such extensions are not really VPS, they are proxies which claim to be VPNs. That's why they are for free. If you want to have a good VPN you need to sign a plan at an established VPN provider.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on September 05, 2020, 04:56:39 AM

Quote from: Becky666 on September 05, 2020, 03:12:44 AM

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Many of these victims( those using VPN and fortunately win big) always put services on forum service section to find someone from the region to help do KYC, sometimes they don't find and their winnings get lost.

^ Using this VPN belongs to the most strictly prohibited in many gambling sites, they dont want their costumers to give a chance to exploit their site that possible abuse by the users, it is likely they monitored your internet used. It just a sort of your all data are encrypted to them and they know your device use upon creating the account and login session. Therefore, always read the term of condition or term of use before will start register.

I disagree.

Gambling sites doesn't have any power to know of you're using a VPN or not, even if you do, well you could use only one server to change your IP address for them not to know where you really are and who you really are. And upon the devices you use, they also do not restrict users to only use one device to gamble (in this age, who only use 1 device)

And I think using multiple devices won't do any harm on their sites, therefore what you have said is all lie.

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Quote from: Becky666 on September 05, 2020, 03:12:44 AM

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Many of these victims( those using VPN and fortunately win big) always put services on forum service section to find someone from the region to help do KYC, sometimes they don't find and their winnings get lost.

^ Using this VPN belongs to the most strictly prohibited in many gambling sites, they dont want their costumers to give a chance to exploit their site that possible abuse by the users, it is likely they monitored your internet used. It just a sort of your all data are encrypted to them and they know your device use upon creating the account and login session. Therefore, always read the term of condition or term of use before will start register.

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Quote from: semobo on September 04, 2020, 12:07:04 PM

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Quote from: Becky666 on September 04, 2020, 10:43:05 AM

Of course you can switch-on to VPN: though not advisable. This has caused so many displeased stories on this forum in which gamblers( victims) where queried for not properly read the TOS of some gambling platforms. The use of this VPN can cause frozen of account with some gambling platforms or when detected during withdrawal process funds will be seize and forfeited for violation. While use VPN, be ready for the outcome.

Of course its not fun when a gambler have baned of account because he doesnt read the sites rules carefully. I have logged in several times and gambled on sites that are blocked in my country using a VPN, its just that I didnt experience any problem because all of my bet were lost. Supposedly if the site prohibit the use of VPNs then they also dont accept any bet from the account. I believe the gamblers fault belong, as the site has stated it on the rules. Avoiding risks is the best option.

Site is not going to recognize the usage of VPNs and users are violating their laws for their benefits, still someone can use VPN safe if they are using premium version static dedicated IP proxy so you will never get caught that you are faking your server and 99% you won't get any issues with this method but it still goes against their terms so account will be banned if they found the violations.

Premium version of VPN can't holdback your reward if such gambler find luck to win huge amount from the gambling platform and request be made to know his real identity before withdrawal. Faking stuff on the internet looks good whenever you have nothing to lose, in this case, as a gambler luck can shine on you and win big.

Many of these victims( those using VPN and fortunately win big) always put services on forum service section to find someone from the region to help do KYC, sometimes they don't find and their winnings get lost.

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Quote from: MFahad on September 04, 2020, 08:53:55 PM

The main issue is that if you are playing at a prohibited site with a VPN and lets suppose you won a jackpot or a big win. The site may hold your withdraw and ask for your KYC. Since you will produce the KYC of a prohibited country, all your winning may be seized and you will be denied of your current balance too. Probably you account will be terminated once they see you violating their terms and conditions.

If that person wants to withdraw all of his win money, yes, the casino will ask about the KYC. But if he can withdraw for small money and not withdraw all money in one time, he will avoid the alarm for withdrawing big money. But what we see many times, people don't delay to withdraw all of the money, but they try to withdraw the money, which makes the casino check their account. And from that, we see many gamblers have a problem in withdrawing the money.

So from that, I think it's about how we can control ourselves, not just in losing the money, but also in winning the money because we don't want to get investigated by the casino or government. Even if the government wants to regulate using limitations of the money that can be used for gambling, we don't have to worry because we can control ourselves.

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Quote from: semobo on September 04, 2020, 12:07:04 PM

Quote from: BITCOIN4X on September 04, 2020, 11:10:05 AM

Quote from: Becky666 on September 04, 2020, 10:43:05 AM

Of course you can switch-on to VPN: though not advisable. This has caused so many displeased stories on this forum in which gamblers( victims) where queried for not properly read the TOS of some gambling platforms. The use of this VPN can cause frozen of account with some gambling platforms or when detected during withdrawal process funds will be seize and forfeited for violation. While use VPN, be ready for the outcome.

Of course its not fun when a gambler have baned of account because he doesnt read the sites rules carefully. I have logged in several times and gambled on sites that are blocked in my country using a VPN, its just that I didnt experience any problem because all of my bet were lost. Supposedly if the site prohibit the use of VPNs then they also dont accept any bet from the account. I believe the gamblers fault belong, as the site has stated it on the rules. Avoiding risks is the best option.

Site is not going to recognize the usage of VPNs and users are violating their laws for their benefits, still someone can use VPN safe if they are using premium version static dedicated IP proxy so you will never get caught that you are faking your server and 99% you won't get any issues with this method but it still goes against their terms so account will be banned if they found the violations.

The main issue is that if you are playing at a prohibited site with a VPN and lets suppose you won a jackpot or a big win. The site may hold your withdraw and ask for your KYC. Since you will produce the KYC of a prohibited country, all your winning may be seized and you will be denied of your current balance too. Probably you account will be terminated once they see you violating their terms and conditions.

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Quote from: buwaytress on August 29, 2020, 06:02:30 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on August 28, 2020, 06:08:09 AM

Can our ISP still do that even if we are using VPN to mask our real IP address? I mean, can they know that we are accessing the gambling sites? It would be helpful to me if I get the right answer as I have friends that has an static IP who gambled without using VPN.

It would depend on your VPN, yes, but your ISP always tracks you the moment you connect, and not all VPNs are private enough or good enough that they can hide your trail. You've got to do a lot more than connect to a VPN these days (unless it's a good one). Every visit leaves an electronic breadcrumb.

For example, clean your cookie at first. Good VPN extensions also changing browser language and so on, but they can't to change for example system time (which is needed to do if casino using tracking not through cookies, but "browser signature") so you need to do all of that by your own hands.

And yeah, casinos often uses the best soft, so with a big probability it will be "browser signature" tracker.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on September 04, 2020, 11:10:05 AM

Quote from: Becky666 on September 04, 2020, 10:43:05 AM

Of course you can switch-on to VPN: though not advisable. This has caused so many displeased stories on this forum in which gamblers( victims) where queried for not properly read the TOS of some gambling platforms. The use of this VPN can cause frozen of account with some gambling platforms or when detected during withdrawal process funds will be seize and forfeited for violation. While use VPN, be ready for the outcome.

Of course its not fun when a gambler have baned of account because he doesnt read the sites rules carefully. I have logged in several times and gambled on sites that are blocked in my country using a VPN, its just that I didnt experience any problem because all of my bet were lost. Supposedly if the site prohibit the use of VPNs then they also dont accept any bet from the account. I believe the gamblers fault belong, as the site has stated it on the rules. Avoiding risks is the best option.

Site is not going to recognize the usage of VPNs and users are violating their laws for their benefits, still someone can use VPN safe if they are using premium version static dedicated IP proxy so you will never get caught that you are faking your server and 99% you won't get any issues with this method but it still goes against their terms so account will be banned if they found the violations.

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Quote from: Becky666 on September 04, 2020, 10:43:05 AM

Of course you can switch-on to VPN: though not advisable. This has caused so many displeased stories on this forum in which gamblers( victims) where queried for not properly read the TOS of some gambling platforms. The use of this VPN can cause frozen of account with some gambling platforms or when detected during withdrawal process funds will be seize and forfeited for violation. While use VPN, be ready for the outcome.

Of course its not fun when a gambler have baned of account because he doesnt read the sites rules carefully. I have logged in several times and gambled on sites that are blocked in my country using a VPN, its just that I didnt experience any problem because all of my bet were lost. Supposedly if the site prohibit the use of VPNs then they also dont accept any bet from the account. I believe the gamblers fault belong, as the site has stated it on the rules. Avoiding risks is the best option.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on August 31, 2020, 09:58:37 AM

It seems the online gambling regulations contained in the opening post only for UK countries, if it's like that I feel relieved
that I don't have to follow these rules. Each country has its own policies regarding online gambling, but based on the information
I get. There are so many countries that have banned online gambling, including the country where I live. But fortunately it still can
accessed using a VPN.

Of course you can switch-on to VPN: though not advisable. This has caused so many displeased stories on this forum in which gamblers( victims) where queried for not properly read the TOS of some gambling platforms. The use of this VPN can cause frozen of account with some gambling platforms or when detected during withdrawal process funds will be seize and forfeited for violation. While use VPN, be ready for the outcome.

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Quote from: iamsheikhadil on September 04, 2020, 01:31:56 AM

I think it's a good move to have a cap of 100 euros deposit from own pocket. The reason is as gamblers our greed is beyond infinity. Now, we think we can win a lot. So if we deposit 50 euros and make a profit of 500 euros, that's cool. And we can continue to play with the 500 euros to make more. But, in end we lose. The cap isn't on how much we can play from any profits we can make from casino but only on the amount we can deposit from our own pocket!

What about those bigtime gamblers who have huge fund in their wallets to play with? I can suggest, there should be a transparency in gambler's fund and take a percentage of it that is allowed to be gambled for a day. because mainly having a cap of 100 euros will be so little.

Or else, they limit the number of bets a gambler could make depending on his losses. If I am not mistaken, the rules are so favorable for the gambler as they will not be addicted and could save their funds in the future.

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Your are referring to soft cap, I wonder why you have said that it is low? If I am not mistaken it is not hard cap right? where the owners of the casinos will be permitted to have a maximum of 100£ monthly.

I am not against to any regulations in online gambling sites as long as it will give the gamblers the security of their money and for the casino owners to earn a decent amount of profit even if they will pay some taxes to the government.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on August 31, 2020, 09:58:37 AM

It seems the online gambling regulations contained in the opening post only for UK countries, if it's like that I feel relieved
that I don't have to follow these rules. Each country has its own policies regarding online gambling, but based on the information
I get. There are so many countries that have banned online gambling, including the country where I live. But fortunately it still can
accessed using a VPN.

VPN puts you at risk if you use it to circumvent censorship and blocking. Many sites ban it directly in their TOS. Maybe they don't enforce it all the time but if you're caught with big winnings they're in their rights to deny you.

Plus, you'll often be asked to KYC anyway and if your IP address and actual access location don't match, it's another can of worms. It's not a very fair case at all in most circumstances with ToS and it's well known, so yeah. If you can't play it normally, you shouldn't. VPN should be a way to protect your privacy, rather than using it to circumvent ToS.

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I think it's a good move to have a cap of 100 euros deposit from own pocket. The reason is as gamblers our greed is beyond infinity. Now, we think we can win a lot. So if we deposit 50 euros and make a profit of 500 euros, that's cool. And we can continue to play with the 500 euros to make more. But, in end we lose. The cap isn't on how much we can play from any profits we can make from casino but only on the amount we can deposit from our own pocket!

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on August 31, 2020, 09:58:37 AM

There are so many countries that have banned online gambling, including the country where I live. But fortunately it still can
accessed using a VPN.

You have less chances of getting caught using a VPN however VPNs is also risky in gambling, you'll fall in not very ideal situation when the casino caught you using a VPN and found out that you are from a restricted country with strict ruling in online gambling. I call it not fortunate coz you can access using a VPN, I call it gambling yourself to gamble.

Although you have fewer chances of getting caught, you need to be careful because your ISP has your access data, so your ISP can still know what sites you are browsing. And if you lived in the country which gambling is prohibited, your government can ask the data from your ISP, and they will investigate every customer's data.

Perhaps, we will be okay if we don't use too big money to playing gambling, so we can avoid the investigating by the government. But still, it is not easy to regulate online gambling because that means related to the regulation of gambling on the internet. After all, the gambling website itself will not try to host the site in the country which gambling is prohibited.

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Quote from: alani123 on September 03, 2020, 03:59:19 PM

Quote from: Wawa2013 on August 31, 2020, 09:58:37 AM

It seems the online gambling regulations contained in the opening post only for UK countries, if it's like that I feel relieved
that I don't have to follow these rules. Each country has its own policies regarding online gambling, but based on the information
I get. There are so many countries that have banned online gambling, including the country where I live. But fortunately it still can
accessed using a VPN.

VPN puts you at risk if you use it to circumvent censorship and blocking. Many sites ban it directly in their TOS. Maybe they don't enforce it all the time but if you're caught with big winnings they're in their rights to deny you.

Well, that's sort like a cheating method of the gambling sites.

I've seem that kind of scenario many times, first they will allow you to deposit and bet on the site despite knowing you are already violating in the first place, but if you win big money, that's where they act telling you that you violated their TOS, and that's a big BS, but we can't complain since we really violate, so let's just make sure we know what we are doing so we won't complain.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on August 31, 2020, 09:58:37 AM

It seems the online gambling regulations contained in the opening post only for UK countries, if it's like that I feel relieved
that I don't have to follow these rules. Each country has its own policies regarding online gambling, but based on the information
I get. There are so many countries that have banned online gambling, including the country where I live. But fortunately it still can
accessed using a VPN.

VPN puts you at risk if you use it to circumvent censorship and blocking. Many sites ban it directly in their TOS. Maybe they don't enforce it all the time but if you're caught with big winnings they're in their rights to deny you.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on August 31, 2020, 09:58:37 AM

There are so many countries that have banned online gambling, including the country where I live. But fortunately it still can
accessed using a VPN.

You have less chances of getting caught using a VPN however VPNs is also risky in gambling, you'll fall in not very ideal situation when the casino caught you using a VPN and found out that you are from a restricted country with strict ruling in online gambling. I call it not fortunate coz you can access using a VPN, I call it gambling yourself to gamble.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on August 31, 2020, 09:58:37 AM

It seems the online gambling regulations contained in the opening post only for UK countries, if it's like that I feel relieved
that I don't have to follow these rules. Each country has its own policies regarding online gambling, but based on the information
I get. There are so many countries that have banned online gambling, including the country where I live. But fortunately it still can
accessed using a VPN.

You cannot access online gambling sites directly if state regulations have blocked them, the choice is to use a VPN to freely surf all sites on the internet. This action has violated applicable state regulations and is prepared to accept the consequences if something unwanted happens.

VPNs are a great way to surf the way without any country restriction and to add a layer of privacy, however when it comes to online gambling most casinos, if not all, forbid the use of VPNs and while you could probably play in the casino as soon as you try to withdraw your money you will face a KYC request or in the worst cases scenario you will be accused of having multiple accounts, violating the terms of service of the casino and you will be denied your money, so be careful.

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Quote from: shoreno on September 02, 2020, 02:27:42 AM

Quote from: bitterguy28 on September 01, 2020, 09:39:25 PM

it is not because a government is tightening their rules and laws meaning they are most involving in gambling.
This may come as preventive measure since the Pandemic really ruins the economy of many country including europe on whos recently one of the most infected continent of Corona virus.

in what way ? to limit gambling expense in order to save money ? because this move done by them cant be a good solution if for the purpose of lessening the infection because the regulation were only imposed online . they should regulate offline casinos because that is more important but i think they already done that and they need to foccus more online due to the growing demand for gambling sites during these times .

Every casinos must be regulated and that is what the way comes though this is not happening everywhere specially to those countries that has no strict rules in gambling(mostly those gambling lovers countries).

Government must protect gamblers because we all know how addicting gambling is and human mostly cannot deny the call.

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