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September 02, 2020, 02:27:42 AM
it is not because a government is tightening their rules and laws meaning they are most involving in gambling.
This may come as preventive measure since the Pandemic really ruins the economy of many country including europe on whos recently one of the most infected continent of Corona virus.
in what way ? to limit gambling expense in order to save money ? because this move done by them cant be a good solution if for the purpose of lessening the infection because the regulation were only imposed online  . they should regulate offline casinos because that is more important  but i think they already done that and they need to foccus more online due to the growing demand for  gambling sites during these times .
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September 01, 2020, 09:39:25 PM
It seems the online gambling regulations contained in the opening post only for UK countries, if it's like that I feel relieved
that I don't have to follow these rules. Each country has its own policies regarding online gambling, but based on the information
I get. There are so many countries that have banned online gambling, including the country where I live. But fortunately it still can
accessed using a VPN.

I don't want to discriminate but it seems the UK people are very much into gambling and the regulations are meant to curb or slow down how people gamble, it's quite harsh if you are living in the UK, like your country we don't have so many regulations on how people should gamble here although I wish we have one, it's because our government run the casinos and lottery here and its revenues are a big help to our government's coffer.  
Nope Your wrong,European people does not a total gambler and this move of government is to at least prevent more bad thing comes from gambling showing concern to their People .
it is not because a government is tightening their rules and laws meaning they are most involving in gambling.
This may come as preventive measure since the Pandemic really ruins the economy of many country including europe on whos recently one of the most infected continent of Corona virus.
100EUR/mo is really low, also if you are a true-blooded gambler, you already know by now how to get by on this rule. Cant really understand why the gov's want to limit gambling since the economy isnt in good standings right now. Huh
For None Gamblers?this is big enough lol.

But of course Gambling activities require more money when you are a active gambler but this is not our concern now instead providing more money is what we want for safer and sure tomorrow while waiting for the Cure in this Covid19.
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September 01, 2020, 09:09:17 PM
It seems the online gambling regulations contained in the opening post only for UK countries, if it's like that I feel relieved
that I don't have to follow these rules. Each country has its own policies regarding online gambling, but based on the information
I get. There are so many countries that have banned online gambling, including the country where I live. But fortunately it still can
accessed using a VPN.

I don't want to discriminate but it seems the UK people are very much into gambling and the regulations are meant to curb or slow down how people gamble, it's quite harsh if you are living in the UK, like your country we don't have so many regulations on how people should gamble here although I wish we have one, it's because our government run the casinos and lottery here and its revenues are a big help to our government's coffer.  
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September 01, 2020, 08:01:32 PM
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Gamblers were not having the same stand on this because some gamblers wanted to get centralized to get protected from the government from the gambling abuses and others does have trust that much for they think they do not need the government or any third party protection.

In this case OP have stated that it is all about regulation on limiting bers per month every gambler. I think it is possible but mind you that it will not going to happen because gambling platform that has no regular gamblers will going to take losses operating and getting small ROI or no ROI at all. However, limiting bets will possibly be done to bigger gambling platform. And if it will going to happen pretty sure that gamblers or gambling sites will find loopholes to bet on the way they wanted.

I wonder what kind of protection that the gamblers wanted because I think the gamblers only need to protect their money from the loss, and they don't need to spend too much money. If we talk about the online gambling website, we will have the option to choose online gambling, and we have a recommended online gambling site to play.

But unfortunately, many people don't want to just on the recommended gambling website, but they are trying to play on the new gambling website, and in the end, they got scam by that site.

Limiting bets should be a job for the gamblers itself. The gambling website can do that, but they need approval from the gamblers because they have that money and want to spend that money. But some gamblers forgot to limit their money, so we see many of them losing their money in the end.
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August 31, 2020, 08:59:05 PM
Yes, it is nothing wrong with that. But probably, the government wants to remind people not to gamble because gambling can make you have big losses. So in some countries, gambling is prohibited, and besides, some of the religion also prohibits gambling. But people still don't care about that, and they still playing gambling.

The ISP will keep the record for themselves, but if the government suspicious with one or more accounts in the bank, they will track it, even they will ask the ISP to give the record to them. I think some gamblers do not want to avoid paying taxes, but they are playing gambling because they want it.
Gamblers were not having the same stand on this because some gamblers wanted to get centralized to get protected from the government from the gambling abuses and others does have trust that much for they think they do not need the government or any third party protection.

In this case OP have stated that it is all about regulation on limiting bers per month every gambler. I think it is possible but mind you that it will not going to happen because gambling platform that has no regular gamblers will going to take losses operating and getting small ROI or no ROI at all. However, limiting bets will possibly be done to bigger gambling platform. And if it will going to happen pretty sure that gamblers or gambling sites will find loopholes to bet on the way they wanted.
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August 31, 2020, 08:36:13 PM
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I don't get the reason why it seems to be illegal to gamble, because if we have tons of money and we use our own IP while gambling, there's still nothing wrong with it. ISP's will not broadcast it anyway because of privacy reason. But the reason why I think most of the gambler who does this is because they want to hide to avoid paying taxes. Or maybe, they have funds that are't came from legal ways.

ISP's do actually store your browser history for about 90 days, just in case the government needs to see or monitor you.

Yes, it is nothing wrong with that. But probably, the government wants to remind people not to gamble because gambling can make you have big losses. So in some countries, gambling is prohibited, and besides, some of the religion also prohibits gambling. But people still don't care about that, and they still playing gambling.

The ISP will keep the record for themselves, but if the government suspicious with one or more accounts in the bank, they will track it, even they will ask the ISP to give the record to them. I think some gamblers do not want to avoid paying taxes, but they are playing gambling because they want it.
legendary
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August 31, 2020, 02:20:33 PM
It seems the online gambling regulations contained in the opening post only for UK countries, if it's like that I feel relieved
that I don't have to follow these rules. Each country has its own policies regarding online gambling, but based on the information
I get. There are so many countries that have banned online gambling, including the country where I live. But fortunately it still can
accessed using a VPN.
You cannot access online gambling sites directly if state regulations have blocked them, the choice is to use a VPN to freely surf all sites on the internet. This action has violated applicable state regulations and is prepared to accept the consequences if something unwanted happens.
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August 31, 2020, 10:53:15 AM
So if you are a gambler, make sure that you are familiar with your country's regulations when it comes to online gambling. Otherwise, you will be screwed and potentially lose your funds by honest mistake. Every country has their own set of rules, so just respect whatever they have to avoid facing problems.
The proposal is for the UK so if you're not from there no need to worry, true to that, that there's a different rules and regulations is applicable within your country. Each country has different perspective towards online gambling so if you're not aware of the rules in your country and you have gambled without knowing it, you're not an exemption.

The regulation doesn't have somethig to do with losing your finds. Regulated or not, if you're a reckless gambler, you can still lose all of your funds if you have no control to yourself.

While you are correct the problem is that many countries look at the regulations passed in other jurisdictions and then they imitate them, so it is entirely possible that this law will be passed in several countries after this and this really bothers me because how can governments pass this kind of laws when there is no study that demonstrates that what they are trying to do will be effective in making people to drop the time and money that they use in their gambling activities.
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August 31, 2020, 09:58:37 AM
It seems the online gambling regulations contained in the opening post only for UK countries, if it's like that I feel relieved
that I don't have to follow these rules. Each country has its own policies regarding online gambling, but based on the information
I get. There are so many countries that have banned online gambling, including the country where I live. But fortunately it still can
accessed using a VPN.
legendary
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August 31, 2020, 05:38:11 AM
Can our ISP still do that even if we are using VPN to mask our real IP address? I mean, can they know that we are accessing the gambling sites? It would be helpful to me if I get the right answer as I have friends that has an static IP who gambled without using VPN.

It would depend on your VPN, yes, but your ISP always tracks you the moment you connect, and not all VPNs are private enough or good enough that they can hide your trail. You've got to do a lot more than connect to a VPN these days (unless it's a good one). Every visit leaves an electronic breadcrumb.

I agree that not all Vpn providers adhere to what they promise for example they all say complete privacy but very few keep their promises.I have found a good one so far for Linux only and it is Riseup Vpn and it is completely free and from what I have seen looks like one who doesn’t hand out your private information.
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August 31, 2020, 01:01:49 AM
Usually, when people know about their country's regulations, they will not use their real IP when they visit the online gambling site. They prefer to use private VPN to play gambling because that can hide their real IP from the ISP's tracking. But some people still use their real IP to playing gambling, and so far, there is no tracking from the ISP. But the ISP still monitor them, just in case if they are using the internet connection just to play online gambling.

I don't get the reason why it seems to be illegal to gamble, because if we have tons of money and we use our own IP while gambling, there's still nothing wrong with it. ISP's will not broadcast it anyway because of privacy reason. But the reason why I think most of the gambler who does this is because they want to hide to avoid paying taxes. Or maybe, they have funds that are't came from legal ways.

ISP's do actually store your browser history for about 90 days, just in case the government needs to see or monitor you.
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August 30, 2020, 02:15:10 PM
100EUR/mo is really low, also if you are a true-blooded gambler, you already know by now how to get by on this rule. Cant really understand why the gov's want to limit gambling since the economy isnt in good standings right now. Huh
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August 29, 2020, 03:48:06 PM
This will still depend on the online casino.

Despite the different country your living, if you are playing at that online casino, you should follow and respect their regulations. Even if the country you are in doesn't have that regulation, if those casinos have, you still need to follow that and that also means having limitations and proving that you could also take those losses.
Every online gambling has internal rules that correspond to the regulations by which the online gambling country is passed, if those rules conflict with your country's rules then leaves and if following them means you are prepared to respect those rules and accept the consequences.
This is why some casinos are restricted from operating on all the countries since we do have law and regulation differences on each country which conflicts on some casino regulations that theeir country have been set. I'm lucky I'm living in a democrat country, we can enjoy our freedom here with some rules to obey and not be detained  Grin
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August 29, 2020, 03:31:42 PM
Very few gambling sites function fulfilling the norms and regulations created by the country. In most cases the gambling sites gets registered on the gambling free country, which makes the usage legal. In my country we've got slot Machines which are being placed on shops privately. At times police seize it, and once again the owner goes for a new one.
legendary
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August 29, 2020, 03:08:23 PM
This will still depend on the online casino.

Despite the different country your living, if you are playing at that online casino, you should follow and respect their regulations. Even if the country you are in doesn't have that regulation, if those casinos have, you still need to follow that and that also means having limitations and proving that you could also take those losses.
Every online gambling has internal rules that correspond to the regulations by which the online gambling country is passed, if those rules conflict with your country's rules then leaves and if following them means you are prepared to respect those rules and accept the consequences.
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August 29, 2020, 06:19:20 AM
They can do that if they want but in their own country only, it will be difficult  for them to follow others countries rules Because they are not covered by others countries laws not unless they are running it there .

This will still depend on the online casino.

Despite the different country your living, if you are playing at that online casino, you should follow and respect their regulations. Even if the country you are in doesn't have that regulation, if those casinos have, you still need to follow that and that also means having limitations and proving that you could also take those losses.
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August 29, 2020, 06:13:20 AM
I am including those who support online gambling regulated by each country, so besides preventing fraud. Regarding the issue of users
under 18 years of age, prevention can be taken so that they cannot access online gambling sites. Although I am quite disappointed in
my country online gambling banned, but fortunately I can still access online gambling sites via VPN.

The fact still remains that, if any country embark on online gambling sites regulations many gamblers will still ho into it through VPN. Most of my colleagues aren't up to the age of 18+ but yet still gamble with us, banning those teenagers can only work with traditional casinos and not online platforms. Taking the forum as an example age wise, many gamblers here aren't upto that age per se but yet still gamble online.

Conclusively, any government that get tax from traditional casinos will put mechanism in place to stop online gambling sites casinos because of their tax invasion.
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August 29, 2020, 06:04:47 AM
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Agree. 100 EUR is indeed a low limit especially to those who can afford to bet and lose as much. However, this is a nice idea for those who are addicted to gambling that are not really capable to lose such amount.

This regulation could somehow limit their money spending and will force them to bet on a certain amount without hurting their pockets. I think their state is just protecting their people from the harmful effects of gambling too much. If this was implemented rightfully, they can also implement another policy to those who can afford to bet higher than 100 EUR.

However, it can be a conflict if they would just stick to 100 EUR maximum bet for those household and individulas with higher income. Since this would somehow be a plain restriction without a sense at all, because they can afford it.

Again, this is a good move to eliminate and lessen people having gambling addiction, but it should have to be fair and not totally dictating and controlling. I hope they'll just base the maximum bet depending on the income of the gambler per month to be more logical.
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August 29, 2020, 06:02:30 AM
Can our ISP still do that even if we are using VPN to mask our real IP address? I mean, can they know that we are accessing the gambling sites? It would be helpful to me if I get the right answer as I have friends that has an static IP who gambled without using VPN.

It would depend on your VPN, yes, but your ISP always tracks you the moment you connect, and not all VPNs are private enough or good enough that they can hide your trail. You've got to do a lot more than connect to a VPN these days (unless it's a good one). Every visit leaves an electronic breadcrumb.
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August 28, 2020, 08:38:34 PM
Usually, when people know about their country's regulations, they will not use their real IP when they visit the online gambling site. They prefer to use private VPN to play gambling because that can hide their real IP from the ISP's tracking. But some people still use their real IP to playing gambling, and so far, there is no tracking from the ISP. But the ISP still monitor them, just in case if they are using the internet connection just to play online gambling.

But I think it will difficult to regulate online gambling sites because the sites will choose to open their business in the country, which allows gambling, and they will not have a problem with the user that comes from many countries.

Your ISPs always monitoring you, even if they say they're not. Their software and hardware can do nothing but track you, it's up to the ISP whether or not they keep this information, and whether the law requires them to or not (and they do, they like being on the good side of enforcement). Think it's only Switzerland that has enough privacy laws to not require ISPs to track you.

It's up to us to protect our privacy in the end.

Yes, they will not tell us they track us, but if the government asked about the data, the ISP would give it for the investigate reason. The track will be given to the government if something bad happens, such as hacking, carding, or illegal activities. The government will track the IP that is connected to the victim, and if the government found the target because of using one ISP, they will ask the data.

But so far, I guess many people already visit on many websites, including porn and gambling, using their real IP or VPN, and the ISP is not doing something except blocking the connection to that sites.


Can our ISP still do that even if we are using VPN to mask our real IP address? I mean, can they know that we are accessing the gambling sites? It would be helpful to me if I get the right answer as I have friends that has an static IP who gambled without using VPN.

I guess they can still track it. We can ask our ISP to know the real answer, but I think they will not tell you since that will be their secret, and they don't want the public to know about that. The ISP bond with the regulation from the government, and they need to obey the regulations.

I think the ISP of your friend knows about that, but they don't do anything because perhaps, your friends don't use too big money.
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