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Quote from: maydna on August 27, 2020, 08:54:25 PM

Usually, when people know about their country's regulations, they will not use their real IP when they visit the online gambling site. They prefer to use private VPN to play gambling because that can hide their real IP from the ISP's tracking. But some people still use their real IP to playing gambling, and so far, there is no tracking from the ISP. But the ISP still monitor them, just in case if they are using the internet connection just to play online gambling.

But I think it will difficult to regulate online gambling sites because the sites will choose to open their business in the country, which allows gambling, and they will not have a problem with the user that comes from many countries.

Your ISPs always monitoring you, even if they say they're not. Their software and hardware can do nothing but track you, it's up to the ISP whether or not they keep this information, and whether the law requires them to or not (and they do, they like being on the good side of enforcement). Think it's only Switzerland that has enough privacy laws to not require ISPs to track you.

It's up to us to protect our privacy in the end.

Can our ISP still do that even if we are using VPN to mask our real IP address? I mean, can they know that we are accessing the gambling sites? It would be helpful to me if I get the right answer as I have friends that has an static IP who gambled without using VPN.

I guess not, those ISP can block some certain websites that are prohibited in this country so I guess they can't track on what platform you are using. Using a VPN, they can hide the IP and the platform you are using so it's safe to browse prohibited platforms.

Any ISP can't determine those contents on your internet when you are using VPN.

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I am including those who support online gambling regulated by each country, so besides preventing fraud. Regarding the issue of users
under 18 years of age, prevention can be taken so that they cannot access online gambling sites. Although I am quite disappointed in
my country online gambling banned, but fortunately I can still access online gambling sites via VPN.

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Quote from: buwaytress on August 28, 2020, 05:51:00 AM

Quote from: maydna on August 27, 2020, 08:54:25 PM

Usually, when people know about their country's regulations, they will not use their real IP when they visit the online gambling site. They prefer to use private VPN to play gambling because that can hide their real IP from the ISP's tracking. But some people still use their real IP to playing gambling, and so far, there is no tracking from the ISP. But the ISP still monitor them, just in case if they are using the internet connection just to play online gambling.

But I think it will difficult to regulate online gambling sites because the sites will choose to open their business in the country, which allows gambling, and they will not have a problem with the user that comes from many countries.

Your ISPs always monitoring you, even if they say they're not. Their software and hardware can do nothing but track you, it's up to the ISP whether or not they keep this information, and whether the law requires them to or not (and they do, they like being on the good side of enforcement). Think it's only Switzerland that has enough privacy laws to not require ISPs to track you.

It's up to us to protect our privacy in the end.

Can our ISP still do that even if we are using VPN to mask our real IP address? I mean, can they know that we are accessing the gambling sites? It would be helpful to me if I get the right answer as I have friends that has an static IP who gambled without using VPN.

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Quote from: maydna on August 27, 2020, 08:54:25 PM

Usually, when people know about their country's regulations, they will not use their real IP when they visit the online gambling site. They prefer to use private VPN to play gambling because that can hide their real IP from the ISP's tracking. But some people still use their real IP to playing gambling, and so far, there is no tracking from the ISP. But the ISP still monitor them, just in case if they are using the internet connection just to play online gambling.

But I think it will difficult to regulate online gambling sites because the sites will choose to open their business in the country, which allows gambling, and they will not have a problem with the user that comes from many countries.

Your ISPs always monitoring you, even if they say they're not. Their software and hardware can do nothing but track you, it's up to the ISP whether or not they keep this information, and whether the law requires them to or not (and they do, they like being on the good side of enforcement). Think it's only Switzerland that has enough privacy laws to not require ISPs to track you.

It's up to us to protect our privacy in the end.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on August 27, 2020, 07:00:01 PM

So if you are a gambler, make sure that you are familiar with your country's regulations when it comes to online gambling. Otherwise, you will be screwed and potentially lose your funds by honest mistake. Every country has their own set of rules, so just respect whatever they have to avoid facing problems.

The proposal is for the UK so if you're not from there no need to worry, true to that, that there's a different rules and regulations is applicable within your country. Each country has different perspective towards online gambling so if you're not aware of the rules in your country and you have gambled without knowing it, you're not an exemption.

The regulation doesn't have somethig to do with losing your finds. Regulated or not, if you're a reckless gambler, you can still lose all of your funds if you have no control to yourself.

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Quote from: Janation on August 28, 2020, 02:19:16 AM

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Quote from: MCobian on August 27, 2020, 08:32:32 AM

I also think that online gambling sites should be regulated by each country, so let be
more effective and efficient. Because every country has a different policy, so regarding the rules of gambling also different.

Yep, every country should have their own policy reagrading gambling. We cannot expect that all countries in the world to apply the same policy.

So if you are a gambler, make sure that you are familiar with your country's regulations when it comes to online gambling. Otherwise, you will be screwed and potentially lose your funds by honest mistake. Every country has their own set of rules, so just respect whatever they have to avoid facing problems.

I don't think we need to since this is just for UK.

Another thing is that they regulate this law because of the problem that they have in gambling. Since we are still affected by the pandemic, most of the online sites we are using are from the other countries so I think the regulation of those sites will be held by that country and not ours. Still, those gamblers are still a few and so I don't think we will be having that kind of regulation any time soon.

They can do that if they want but in their own country only, it will be difficult for them to follow others countries rules Because they are not covered by others countries laws not unless they are running it there .

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Quote from: Janation on August 28, 2020, 02:19:16 AM

Quote from: Twinkledoe on August 27, 2020, 07:00:01 PM

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on August 27, 2020, 06:59:35 PM

Quote from: MCobian on August 27, 2020, 08:32:32 AM

I also think that online gambling sites should be regulated by each country, so let be
more effective and efficient. Because every country has a different policy, so regarding the rules of gambling also different.

Yep, every country should have their own policy reagrading gambling. We cannot expect that all countries in the world to apply the same policy.

So if you are a gambler, make sure that you are familiar with your country's regulations when it comes to online gambling. Otherwise, you will be screwed and potentially lose your funds by honest mistake. Every country has their own set of rules, so just respect whatever they have to avoid facing problems.

I don't think we need to since this is just for UK.

Another thing is that they regulate this law because of the problem that they have in gambling. Since we are still affected by the pandemic, most of the online sites we are using are from the other countries so I think the regulation of those sites will be held by that country and not ours. Still, those gamblers are still a few and so I don't think we will be having that kind of regulation any time soon.

This is a unique regulation so I am not expecting it will also happen in our country.

Gambling is illegal in our country but we can gamble online using crypto, I just don't know the consequences if we ever get caught as I have never seen anyone who got punished yet for doing it. I'd like to assume that crypt gambling regulation in our country is not that strong compared to other countries where they are already taking this matter seriously.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on August 27, 2020, 07:00:01 PM

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on August 27, 2020, 06:59:35 PM

Quote from: MCobian on August 27, 2020, 08:32:32 AM

I also think that online gambling sites should be regulated by each country, so let be
more effective and efficient. Because every country has a different policy, so regarding the rules of gambling also different.

Yep, every country should have their own policy reagrading gambling. We cannot expect that all countries in the world to apply the same policy.

So if you are a gambler, make sure that you are familiar with your country's regulations when it comes to online gambling. Otherwise, you will be screwed and potentially lose your funds by honest mistake. Every country has their own set of rules, so just respect whatever they have to avoid facing problems.

I don't think we need to since this is just for UK.

Another thing is that they regulate this law because of the problem that they have in gambling. Since we are still affected by the pandemic, most of the online sites we are using are from the other countries so I think the regulation of those sites will be held by that country and not ours. Still, those gamblers are still a few and so I don't think we will be having that kind of regulation any time soon.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on August 27, 2020, 07:00:01 PM

So if you are a gambler, make sure that you are familiar with your country's regulations when it comes to online gambling. Otherwise, you will be screwed and potentially lose your funds by honest mistake. Every country has their own set of rules, so just respect whatever they have to avoid facing problems.

Usually, when people know about their country's regulations, they will not use their real IP when they visit the online gambling site. They prefer to use private VPN to play gambling because that can hide their real IP from the ISP's tracking. But some people still use their real IP to playing gambling, and so far, there is no tracking from the ISP. But the ISP still monitor them, just in case if they are using the internet connection just to play online gambling.

But I think it will difficult to regulate online gambling sites because the sites will choose to open their business in the country, which allows gambling, and they will not have a problem with the user that comes from many countries.

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Quote from: MCobian on August 27, 2020, 08:32:32 AM

I also think that online gambling sites should be regulated by each country, so let be
more effective and efficient. Because every country has a different policy, so regarding the rules of gambling also different.

Yep, every country should have their own policy reagrading gambling. We cannot expect that all countries in the world to apply the same policy.

So if you are a gambler, make sure that you are familiar with your country's regulations when it comes to online gambling. Otherwise, you will be screwed and potentially lose your funds by honest mistake. Every country has their own set of rules, so just respect whatever they have to avoid facing problems.

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Quote from: MCobian on August 27, 2020, 08:32:32 AM

I also think that online gambling sites should be regulated by each country, so let be
more effective and efficient. Because every country has a different policy, so regarding the rules of gambling also different.

Yep, every country should have its own policy regarding gambling. We cannot expect that all countries in the world to apply the same policy. Each country may have different considerations to decide the most appropriate policy for gambling. Also, the need for gambling may vary among countries in the world. In some countries, gambling may be needed as it is the source of income or many people are interested in playing it. But in other countries, it may be not needed as it doesn't fit with the culture of society.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on August 27, 2020, 04:32:54 PM

Quote from: Debonaire217 on August 24, 2020, 11:44:57 PM

Quote from: plr on August 23, 2020, 10:41:14 PM

If they regulate how much money they are going to bet, these gamblers will turn to non registered gambling sites because people will not like restrictions, gamblers are different to each other there are those who can afford to gamble because they have excess money and they want to be entertain more.

This will lead to massive losses, if they don't want to be regulated, let them be, because one of the purpose of regulation is to control taxes as well as to help the gamblers not to be addicted. When gambling sites becomes regulated and gamblers still choose to play in decentralized and non registered ones, it could be two things, they have tons of money and they don't care about losing, they just want to earn, have fun by testing their luck. Or, their funds didn't come from legal source that is why they don't want it to be publicly seen being betted in regulated online gambling sites.

You're forget about another reason: When addicted gambler can't play (due to regulations and restrictions) on legal online casino sites, then he using such decentralized platforms. Just to fulfill his unstoppable desire to gamble Lips sealed

And i think that most of players is my type described above.

-Desire to gamble
-Financial capacity
-Fun/Profit aims

People cant really be stopped no matter how strict the regulation is, yet we know that we can access those unregulated online casinos without any hiccups specially here on
crypto space. Government cant get rid into these businesses so it wont really typically a total shutdown if these laws or prohibitions would be imposed.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on August 27, 2020, 04:32:54 PM

You're forget about another reason: When addicted gambler can't play (due to regulations and restrictions) on legal online casino sites, then he using such decentralized platforms. Just to fulfill his unstoppable desire to gamble Lips sealed

Which is not good and which is why regulation is necessary to help them.

If they will continue to gamble despite being irresponsible, they will become a problem to people around them, their family and friends and worst to the community, and seeing that possibility, government has stepped up with a regulation.

Quote from: johhnyUA on August 27, 2020, 04:32:54 PM

And i think that most of players is my type described above.

Addicted to gambling? Noh,

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on August 24, 2020, 11:44:57 PM

Quote from: plr on August 23, 2020, 10:41:14 PM

If they regulate how much money they are going to bet, these gamblers will turn to non registered gambling sites because people will not like restrictions, gamblers are different to each other there are those who can afford to gamble because they have excess money and they want to be entertain more.

This will lead to massive losses, if they don't want to be regulated, let them be, because one of the purpose of regulation is to control taxes as well as to help the gamblers not to be addicted. When gambling sites becomes regulated and gamblers still choose to play in decentralized and non registered ones, it could be two things, they have tons of money and they don't care about losing, they just want to earn, have fun by testing their luck. Or, their funds didn't come from legal source that is why they don't want it to be publicly seen being betted in regulated online gambling sites.

You're forget about another reason: When addicted gambler can't play (due to regulations and restrictions) on legal online casino sites, then he using such decentralized platforms. Just to fulfill his unstoppable desire to gamble Lips sealed

And i think that most of players is my type described above.

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People are not bots.
They are very aware of what they are doing at the same time they could have opened the care system or something for them instead of controlling them like this , Because at the end of the day they cannot influence each and everything just like that .

It is done with good intentions but forcing people to follow rules will never go well with anyone.

What is your take on this ?

This news actually paves a way further into how the governmental bodies plan on regulating the online casinos especially the crypto ones .

Gamblers are one of the people that is hard to control they should know that, they can fake things so they can continue playing,just like smokers who can hoard cigarettes, so he can satisfy himself, especially if the gamblers can afford to play a big amount, and now he is restricted to a fraction of what he is betting they will always find a way to escape or past those regulations.

I agree, this is why this law is useless, those that are addicted to gambling and that cannot control themselves are never going to abide by that law and they're going to try to find any way they can to get around it and we know that anyone with just a modicum amount of knowledge is going to be able to surpass those limits and keep gambling as if nothing is happening, it is for this reason that I do not really think that this is to help addicted gamblers this is just another attempt to try to control your money and what you can do with it.

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Quote from: Mauser on August 27, 2020, 04:11:05 AM

The problem with online regulation is that all countries would need to work together.

I don't think that's true, not every country has the same law when it comes to regulating online casinos (fiat or crypto), and even if let's say that some countries have the same regulation, cooperation might also not possible as there are countries who are not allies with each other.

I agree that not all countries have the same rules regarding online gambling sites, so it is impossible for all countries to cooperate
define the same rules regarding gambling sites. I also think that online gambling sites should be regulated by each country, so let be
more effective and efficient. Because every country has a different policy, so regarding the rules of gambling also different.

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Quote from: Mauser on August 27, 2020, 04:11:05 AM

The problem with online regulation is that all countries would need to work together.

I don't think that's true, not every country has the same law when it comes to regulating online casinos (fiat or crypto), and even if let's say that some countries have the same regulation, cooperation might also not possible as there are countries who are not allies with each other.

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Quote from: jademaxsuy on August 26, 2020, 09:55:12 AM

If regulatory to online gambling casino will be push through then high chances that it will going to centralization. This is the problem with the government because they are not really at help when they will just make online gambling casino as milking cow getting taxes and licences for them but the service for protection is not being done and mosy government are reactive to phenomenon. Since online gambling is new then high chances that government could be facing difficulties in solving the problems that will be encounter.

The problem with online regulation is that all countries would need to work together. As long as countries keep doing their taxation and regulation for online casinos only on a national level, we will see casinos just exploiting countries. It's very easy in todays times to move the headquarter of a company abroad. We need all major countries to work together on a fair regulation for online casinos. This would increase security for gamblers and also help governments to control the market.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on August 24, 2020, 11:44:57 PM

Quote from: plr on August 23, 2020, 10:41:14 PM

If they regulate how much money they are going to bet, these gamblers will turn to non registered gambling sites because people will not like restrictions, gamblers are different to each other there are those who can afford to gamble because they have excess money and they want to be entertain more.

This will lead to massive losses, if they don't want to be regulated, let them be, because one of the purpose of regulation is to control taxes as well as to help the gamblers not to be addicted. When gambling sites becomes regulated and gamblers still choose to play in decentralized and non registered ones, it could be two things, they have tons of money and they don't care about losing, they just want to earn, have fun by testing their luck. Or, their funds didn't come from legal source that is why they don't want it to be publicly seen being betted in regulated online gambling sites.

I don't know why other gamblers don't want regulations in online gambling sites because this will only lead to massive losses, so it's much better to let them be and ignore them if they hate it. I understand that there are some gamblers or people who hates rules/laws, but this kind of laws will protect us from fraud and scam.

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What kind of protection you are talking here?
I think when a gambling site is regulated, they will have to follow a certain rules and once they break that rules, they will have to face the consequences according to the law/rules. I think that's the kind of protection we can get from the government.

Quote from: jademaxsuy on August 26, 2020, 09:55:12 AM

If regulatory to online gambling casino will be push through then high chances that it will going to centralization. This is the problem with the government because they are not really at help when they will just make online gambling casino as milking cow getting taxes and licences for them but the service for protection is not being done and mosy government are reactive to phenomenon. Since online gambling is new then high chances that government could be facing difficulties in solving the problems that will be encounter.

Quote from: shoreno on August 26, 2020, 08:25:42 AM

its not a weakness but its a normal requirement not only for a gambling place but also to any other business . its not money that are given to someone else for them to use personaly but its a tax that will be used for important occasions .

legal sites online are still being tax , so you cant say that building sites online can make you escape those obligations.

Yes, no one can escap taxes unless you want to get a hufe penalty from the government. Most of business owners are aware of huge penalty so they do not have choice but to follow the government mandate.

It's up to the tax payers if they will pay or not, but at least they should make themselves aware of the consequences if they got caught, that's too risky but there are still people who are evading taxes.

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