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Topic: Release the hounds : 45.8 BTC stolen - electrum-wallet.com CRIMINAL sticky pls - page 3. (Read 7125 times)

legendary
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I don't think ridiculing the guy is a good idea to be honest. Losing that amount of money is no joke.
sr. member
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Oh. my. god.  Cry Cry  45 bitcoins...
I'm so sorry for your loss, even though i have no advice to give you i gladly reported this scam website but i'm kinda baffled on how someone with so much bitcoins could fall for such a bait and not pay attention and it made me even more paranoid  Shocked . I hope you do find a way to get them back and get the scammer behind bars  Undecided .

Recovering 45 BTC in current times is Herculean unless you have the money to buy again straight away else you might rue for a long time and might not recover that much any time soon. 
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^ Chances are if the ppl behind this are smart enough to create a wallet that can wipe out your machines wallets, they've thought well past domain/hosting/ID's/IP's/legal/whatifs/unforeseens/etc. Best case scenario namecheap and the host give up intel that's probably daisy chained to dead ends imo. I'm sure they won't be around long but all it takes is a new domain.whatever and another indi/loose/foreign hosting and they're up again.

** I hate scammers as much as anyone else, however, like anyone else, I'm fascinated by the schemes they execute and must admit this shit was clever, timed, and paid the fawk off for these guys. What a beautiful and cruel world.

As much as hate to admit it you have a point, i have seen cases where when this cases happen best you can get close is the ip address and the country the hack was done from, but in this case its was done from from a program the victim gave permission to, i am sure they would have tied up loose ends except it was a fluke and if it is then, it is worth a shot to report to the authorities

If you can, please make this a sticky , people NEED to be warned and i need to find someone to recover 150kusd and get 75kusd for it (Relative to current BTC + BCH prices )

I got robbed of 45.8 BTC (and BCH so total = 150000$) after installing the executable from electrum-wallet.com.

I was running multisig but both on the same PC. First i ran the portable electrum.exe from  electrum-wallet.com but when it did not load my wallets *NOTE : the ones that had BTC in them ,it loaded just fine any other wallet ) - I don't want to hear opinions on my stupidity

After it didn't work i downloaded last version of electrum from electrum.org

I'm wondering how the F is it possible that after 2 years of this thread no one has taken down and/or announced the US. authorities fbi etc about it.

I'm in Romania and have no wish to deal with this legally, which will probably get me nowhere.



I  am willing to split the rights on the BTC with whoever is capable of recovering them via detective+legal means.

This is the transaction : https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/78d44db46445d3097996fc644c1221eeead31added5c35cf1b7938737e3b49db


As i said , I don't want to hear opinions on my stupidity, this is mostly a warning and hopefully a way for someone to make a healthy 75000$.

thanks for the warning op. maybe ill be more carefull about what im downloading from now on.  and ihope more people being read this not to ignore to be help them as a warning.

Is OP alive?

Just for his information I gathered some info that you can use to further your search for your Bitcoins.

Heres an IP of the company who owns the domain

IP Location   Germany Germany Waldbrunn Ip Projects
ASN   Germany AS31400 ACCELERATED-IT, DE (registered May 06, 2004)
Resolve Host   xxx
Whois Server   whois.ripe.net
IP Address   82.211.xxxx
Reverse IP   2 websites use this address.

Additionally, if you believe you are a victim of an Internet crime, or if you are aware of an attempted crime, you can file a complaint through Internet Crime Complaint Center at https://complaint.ic3.gov , who are in the best position to fully investigate any such issue across any/all service providers.

And behold;

REGISTRANT CONTACT
Name:Alexandr XXX
Street:ul. Gincharnaya XXX
City:Moscow
State:Moscow
Postal Code:101XXX
Country:RU
Phone:+7.XXXXX
Email:[email protected]

The ball is in your hands now, OP



you did a really good job men. now op has this information to report this scammer. i hope that who did this scam got to jail more years to pay what he did to you (op). we support you in this fight against scamer.

I'm pretty sure this won't help you but I live like 10min away from this hoster, small world...

Great work getting the details of the scammer, i hope it was a fluke and they would be stupid enough to give valid address.
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Oh. my. god.  Cry Cry  45 bitcoins...
I'm so sorry for your loss, even though i have no advice to give you i gladly reported this scam website but i'm kinda baffled on how someone with so much bitcoins could fall for such a bait and not pay attention and it made me even more paranoid  Shocked . I hope you do find a way to get them back and get the scammer behind bars  Undecided .
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Hello. Bye.
Lesson here is to cary your BTC on hardware wallets at all times!
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Wow, that is crazy to hear. The site is an absolute scam and everyone should report it.

45 BTC is quite alot. I think your best bet would be to email [email protected] and ask for the owner of the registered domain electrum-wallet.com
Maybe put a small hint that you have been robbed off of 45 BTC equal to XXX amount of USD and that you are pressing legal charges and will inform your authorities of this, also whoever registered the domain is using Namecheaps service WhoisGuard for anonymity which you could question and threaten that you report this to ICANN for their view on this matter. According to ICANN, "The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) broadly requires the mailing address, phone number, and e-mail address of those owning or administrating a domain name to be made publicly available through the "WHOIS" directories."

Which means that anonymous domain registrations aren't allowed and that mailing adress, phone number and email to the person administrating the site should be public information.

It is a long shot, but my best bet would be to email the domain provider and explain the matter and question how they are currently supporting criminal activities and also witholding important information on the person who is scamming users.

Sorry for your loss man! but this is the way to go its a start, good luck
sr. member
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Almost 46 btc is a huge amount of money !  
I was also searching for a method to cash in my bitcoin cash and saw that exact think to do what I needed. The author from where I saw about this was also saying to try it on our own risk because there could be some theft in that electrum- wallet  because it is not from electrum and it was a third party software.
Hope you get justice somehow and someday . And if that happens, hope you share your story.
legendary
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Coinbase really should of told everybody that they will distribute BCASH and these thefts wouldn't happen. I blame that exchange.

Most people on Coinbase are complete noobs who had no idea how to even withdraw BTC , let alone split properly.

I blame Coinbase for all these thefts.
There's no such thing as 'should of'. The correct English is 'should have'.
legendary
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Coinbase really should of told everybody that they will distribute BCASH and these thefts wouldn't happen. I blame that exchange.

Most people on Coinbase are complete noobs who had no idea how to even withdraw BTC , let alone split properly.

I blame Coinbase for all these thefts.

BCASH (the ZCASH spin-off) won't be available until 2018.  You mean Bitcoin Cash.
sr. member
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I am sorry to hear this happened to you.

The domain is decent and I can see how you might have thought it was legit.

Unfortunately, there is no way for you to get your Bitcoins back.
sr. member
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If you can, please make this a sticky , people NEED to be warned and i need to find someone to recover 150kusd and get 75kusd for it (Relative to current BTC + BCH prices )

I got robbed of 45.8 BTC (and BCH so total = 150000$) after installing the executable from electrum-wallet.com.

I was running multisig but both on the same PC. First i ran the portable electrum.exe from  electrum-wallet.com but when it did not load my wallets *NOTE : the ones that had BTC in them ,it loaded just fine any other wallet ) - I don't want to hear opinions on my stupidity

After it didn't work i downloaded last version of electrum from electrum.org

I'm wondering how the F is it possible that after 2 years of this thread no one has taken down and/or announced the US. authorities fbi etc about it.

I'm in Romania and have no wish to deal with this legally, which will probably get me nowhere.



I  am willing to split the rights on the BTC with whoever is capable of recovering them via detective+legal means.

This is the transaction : https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/78d44db46445d3097996fc644c1221eeead31added5c35cf1b7938737e3b49db


As i said , I don't want to hear opinions on my stupidity, this is mostly a warning and hopefully a way for someone to make a healthy 75000$.
OMG! Embarrassed Do you know how much is that in my currency, it is equivalent 0f 5.3 millions here. In your case, I was wondering if you had the private key, and phrase words also the passwords it can't be steal by anyone. I think there's nothing we can do but to accept the facts what happened to your money anyway.
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Auf sry for lose bro but there is no way to recover your money because to find a criminal which taked yur money is not possible and punish like that ,online scammers always find some mystake in law and nobody cant punish them or they are pro so nobody cant find them.
legendary
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Coinbase really should of told everybody that they will distribute BCASH and these thefts wouldn't happen. I blame that exchange.

Most people on Coinbase are complete noobs who had no idea how to even withdraw BTC , let alone split properly.

I blame Coinbase for all these thefts.
sr. member
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I was running multisig but both on the same PC. First i ran the portable electrum.exe from  electrum-wallet.com but when it did not load my wallets *NOTE : the ones that had BTC in them ,it loaded just fine any other wallet ) - I don't want to hear opinions on my stupidity

who told you that "electrum-wallet.com" is the real website to download a bitcoin wallet from?
i am sorry for your loss but you should have double checked where you are downloading your wallet. this is not even the first scam attempt and there have been a couple of more of these sites like this.

the official electrum wallet website is electrum.org and there is no alternative to that. any other website is a scam.

OP doesn't want to be called out for "stupidity" or whatever. I am not saying you are doing so, but let's be respectful.

With that said, you are right. If I was moving around 45.8 Bitcoins, you best believe it would be with the utmost precaution. I have lost my fair share of Bitcoin to scams and not prepared to lose more. I feel bad for OP though... the current state of Bitcoin is terrible and I think it will only stay the same, or get worse. Imagine what will happen when Bitcoin becomes mainstream. Everyone and their mother will have Bitcoin on public exchanges and scamming will become normal. It is sad.
Credit card fraud is rampant as well and that does not stop people from using credit cards, the only issue is that with bitcoin you cannot get the money back and this is something people will need to get used to, in bitcoin there is not a security blanket protecting us, if you lose your money you lose it for good.
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I reported the domain name to namecheap and i am shocked to read their response

Quote
Hello,

Thank you for your email regarding the electrum-wallet.com domain name. We have thoroughly investigated your allegation to the extent of our capabilities, but we were unable to validate your claims, unfortunately.

In this situation, Namecheap acts as the registrar only. It means that our ability to investigate the matter is limited since the content transmitted via the website is not located on our server. Please also note that we do not own the reported domain name, we are simply the company the domain name was registered with. Considering the aforementioned points, we recommend that you contact the hosting provider, who would be in a better position to validate your claims and take the appropriate action.

Additionally, if you believe you are a victim of an Internet crime, or if you are aware of an attempted crime, you can file a complaint through Internet Crime Complaint Center at https://complaint.ic3.gov , who are in the best position to fully investigate any such issue across any/all service providers.

Please let us know should you have any further questions.

Shame on Namecheap.They can't spot that it's phishing scam.I know the domain is not hosted at namecheap but they can suspend the domain but no they won't.They want to keep doing business with scammers.
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Blame Goodle adwords. Google ads now look so similar to their search results, many users are tricked into clicking those ads instead of the real sites



This. You would think people would double check downloading executable programs especially when they will be using said program to handle their ~150,000$... Anyways OP I hope you have learned a lesson from this and I am sorry that it happened.
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My antivirus doesn't even let me view the website. When investing more than 2-3k or earning it from profits you should invest about 400-500 on a new laptop and a good anti virus. It's a small investment for peace of mind and security of your funds.
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executable from electrum-wallet.com.

I don't want to hear opinions on my stupidity.

Fucking idiots can't be fixed.  You are going to hear about your stupidity whether you like it or not.  Idiot.

 Grin Grin Grin lets smoke man  Roll Eyes
legendary
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PSA: The only official wallet for electron cash is www.electroncash.org   -- some people have had false sites on this one too steal their funds.


Wait. Isn't it Electrum.org ?


uhhhhh Cheesy

Electrum.org is official Electrum
ElectronCash.org is official Electron Cash (the SPV wallet for Bitcoin Cash)
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If you can, please make this a sticky , people NEED to be warned and i need to find someone to recover 150kusd and get 75kusd for it (Relative to current BTC + BCH prices )

I got robbed of 45.8 BTC (and BCH so total = 150000$) after installing the executable from electrum-wallet.com.

I was running multisig but both on the same PC. First i ran the portable electrum.exe from  electrum-wallet.com but when it did not load my wallets *NOTE : the ones that had BTC in them ,it loaded just fine any other wallet ) - I don't want to hear opinions on my stupidity

After it didn't work i downloaded last version of electrum from electrum.org

I'm wondering how the F is it possible that after 2 years of this thread no one has taken down and/or announced the US. authorities fbi etc about it.

I'm in Romania and have no wish to deal with this legally, which will probably get me nowhere.



I  am willing to split the rights on the BTC with whoever is capable of recovering them via detective+legal means.

This is the transaction : https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/78d44db46445d3097996fc644c1221eeead31added5c35cf1b7938737e3b49db


As i said , I don't want to hear opinions on my stupidity, this is mostly a warning and hopefully a way for someone to make a healthy 75000$.

thanks for the warning op. maybe ill be more carefull about what im downloading from now on.  and ihope more people being read this not to ignore to be help them as a warning.

Is OP alive?

Just for his information I gathered some info that you can use to further your search for your Bitcoins.

Heres an IP of the company who owns the domain

IP Location   Germany Germany Waldbrunn Ip Projects
ASN   Germany AS31400 ACCELERATED-IT, DE (registered May 06, 2004)
Resolve Host   xxx
Whois Server   whois.ripe.net
IP Address   82.211.xxxx
Reverse IP   2 websites use this address.

Additionally, if you believe you are a victim of an Internet crime, or if you are aware of an attempted crime, you can file a complaint through Internet Crime Complaint Center at https://complaint.ic3.gov , who are in the best position to fully investigate any such issue across any/all service providers.

And behold;

REGISTRANT CONTACT
Name:Alexandr XXX
Street:ul. Gincharnaya XXX
City:Moscow
State:Moscow
Postal Code:101XXX
Country:RU
Phone:+7.XXXXX
Email:[email protected]

The ball is in your hands now, OP



you did a really good job men. now op has this information to report this scammer. i hope that who did this scam got to jail more years to pay what he did to you (op). we support you in this fight against scamer.

I'm pretty sure this won't help you but I live like 10min away from this hoster, small world...
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