Topic: Release the hounds : 45.8 BTC stolen - electrum-wallet.com CRIMINAL sticky pls - page 5. (Read 7125 times)

WARNING for everybody else who opened the site!!!

Your machine might got exploited, there is an exploit kit live.


Virus total scan
https://www.virustotal.com/de/url/45de65ee218e3b662a58f93a53b9adc59f0c50c7fade6d0b1e1aa477dc116ef4/analysis/

It seems to me that the scamming websites become more and more popular as bitcoins boom. It becomes to create a website to phishing and send fake emails/messages around.

Sophos stopped me from opening the site. Reinstall your PC but be sure you don't destroy any wallets in the process.
If you hold any more coins get a hardware wallet ASAP!

In my opinion if you hold more than 1 Bitcoin a hardware wallet is mandatory!

Did you check is he also got the BCH/BCC balance? Maybe there is still something to rescue here.

Try reporting to FBI or something.
Call. Contact host. Maybe you can reach out to an international lawyer.

I'm so sorry for your loss. It's not a small amount. I think what you should do is research who is owner of this fake domain. It's the only glue at this moment.

It's like in the safari. A lone, thirty wildebeast straying into a new and unusual wateringhole unaware that its surrounded by hidden lions waiting to pounce and rip its guts out once it stays just a bit too long with its guard down.

You have to figure it's going to take quite a while for conventional police forces to catch up to the technology at play here.

The only possible way to recover those is to move legally,file a police complaint regarding the coins and the loss,and forward it to all the exchanges regarding the movement of the coins,since it is a public ledger the hacker have to cash out at some exchanges and there are instances when the exchanges withheld the money from hackers when they deposit in it,other than that there is no way you could recover those.

OK... It took me a few minutes of research to find out what happened exactly. So this guy installed a trojan from this site:

http://electrum-wallet.com/

instead of installing the electrum wallet from this website:

https://electrum.org/

A very very costly mistake instead. Also, just a few days back, Theymos had instructed us not to transfer the BTCs in very large blocks. He ignored that warning also.

OMG, i so sad hear about that, 45.8 BTC is much, this is night mare 

Very sad to hear this.45 BTC is not a small amount.All that glitters is not gold.I think due to curiosity of gaining free BCC,you have downloaded wallet from Electrum-wallet.com.Thats the great mistake you have done.These types of scams come around at such unusual times like hard fork occuring.

That is a lot of money lost, sorry to hear about it, but I don't think there is any chances for you to get your bitcoins back as the bitcoins have already been sent out from the wallet. It is always better to verify a site before downloading the electrum wallet, but I still wonder how did the OP find that link for downloading the fake electrum wallet in the first place.

Damn, i feeel that pain but still can't understand why people are so careless while operating such huge amounts of BTC. You could try to send your bitcoins to another waller without downloading anything (even  before download smth just check the website a billion times) and then claim your BCC. Don't think that you will get it back but that will be a lesson for everyone else.

OP doesn't want to be called out for "stupidity" or whatever. I am not saying you are doing so, but let's be respectful.

With that said, you are right. If I was moving around 45.8 Bitcoins, you best believe it would be with the utmost precaution. I have lost my fair share of Bitcoin to scams and not prepared to lose more. I feel bad for OP though... the current state of Bitcoin is terrible and I think it will only stay the same, or get worse. Imagine what will happen when Bitcoin becomes mainstream. Everyone and their mother will have Bitcoin on public exchanges and scamming will become normal. It is sad.

^ Google does semi-manual to manual reviews however A LOT goes under the radar. The website looks legit, they don't understand crypto/they are not going to download wallets and inspect software - they want your money to advertise until enough ppl complain (not that it makes it right, but it doesn't mean they are/were compliant with the scam from the jump. Google employees and review teams are often not that hard to fool or bait/switch once ads are running).

These scam websites are paying to advertise their websites in Google and steal this way the data from people who do the research of wallets on Google.

This also happen with the Ethereum wallets.

This, I hope you get your coins back OP but the truth of the matter is that is going to be almost impossible to do so, even if the criminal is arrested I doubt very much that he would like to give the money back since in a decade or two those coins could be worth hundreds of thousands or even millions.

Wow, thanks for stating the obvious. Actually, namecheap.com offers a free WhoisGuard subscription for domain registrations.

The actual service WhoisGuard has a "zero tolerance for scammers" Well, I don't know about that. Most likely they would'nt offer such a service to begin with.

Also, namecheap.com has been sued before regarding issues with WhoisGuard, read here: http://domainnamewire.com/2011/05/09/namecheap-sued-over-whoisguard/

You should definitely threaten with legal action as this isn't the first time namecheap.com is involved in things like this.

^ Chances are if the ppl behind this are smart enough to create a wallet that can wipe out your machines wallets, they've thought well past domain/hosting/ID's/IP's/legal/whatifs/unforeseens/etc. Best case scenario namecheap and the host give up intel that's probably daisy chained to dead ends imo. I'm sure they won't be around long but all it takes is a new domain.whatever and another indi/loose/foreign hosting and they're up again.

** I hate scammers as much as anyone else, however, like anyone else, I'm fascinated by the schemes they execute and must admit this shit was clever, timed, and paid the fawk off for these guys. What a beautiful and cruel world.

While tracing the transaction and getting to the bottom of this will be indeed a very hard feat I can still see some light in this matter but getting all of the money back will not happen easily. I suspect this will boil down to major pressure from a legal advisor who goes very hard in on the hosting company and pressure them. Either through legal means or negative press.

By saying theres noway for OP to get his money back you are simply saying that the hosting company "Namecheap.com" is doing the right by hiding the registration information of criminals and also hosting and supporting criminal activities? I read at Namecheap.com that they are a "an accredited ICANN registrar". Well guys, an "accredited ICANN registrar" don't simply break ICANN rules by hiding registration information of criminals.

Report this hosting company to ICANN and threaten with legal action if nothing happens. With the right searchwords the site electrum-wallet.com (which is also a cheap copy of the correct electrum.org website) is at the top of Google search. The site is hosted by namecheap.com and the registration information of the owner which should be public information is hidden with a tool of theirs, which btw, is breaking the terms and conditions of ICANN policy.

You definitely need legal help to resolve this, and there is no certainty if namecheap.com even hold any valid registration information on the owner of the website why I think you should pressure the hosting company hard on this.