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June 24, 2016, 11:23:51 AM
Fuck off with the creating gold via hocus-pocus bullshit, that's not what Alchemy is about. That's the story repeated to us over and over again by our corrupt authority figures and their mass media propaganda, social and schooling programs.

ANY TIME THE SUBJECT OF ALCHEMY IS BROUGHT UP IT'S LEAD INTO GOLD IN YOUR FACE OVER AND OVER AGAIN!

Probably because alchemy had 2 primary goals...

Elixir of immortality

...and...

Transmuting base metals into gold

Considering there were only 2 goals... I'm not surprised to see one of them mentioned often... why are you?
legendary
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June 24, 2016, 11:23:31 AM
This is the Green Lion's eastern counterpart.




Rahu



Every culture has a different name and a different form but they rhyme and they all point the the same mostly invisible celestial object; The Black Sun.

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June 24, 2016, 11:23:02 AM
That image on the left signifies the birth, death and resurrection of Christ.  The green lion is a separate image.  The green lion was a metaphor for something that was sought by alchemists - an elixir of life - a elixir that would heal any sickness.


Sorry dude but that's "not even wrong".


The Green Lion is a 3rd mostly invisible celestial object in our sky also known as the Black Sun, it's also what causes eclipses.





 The green lion was a mixture of nitric acid and hydrochloric acid.  The sun in that image represents gold and the green lion is dissolving it.



You're full of shit dude.

  Clearly it is a surreal image we are discussing and there may be more than one meaning behind it.  That being said, Alchemists believed that there was a seed from which gold could be grown and that by dissolving and purifying the gold, they could find that seed.  The thought that the "base" metals could be converted to gold.  Considering that the image is taken from the "Rosarium Philosophorum", it would make sense that it has something to do with alchemy/chemistry and less to do with astrology/astronomy. 



Fuck off with the creating gold via hocus-pocus bullshit, that's not what Alchemy is about. That's the story repeated to us over and over again by our corrupt authority figures and their mass media propaganda, social and schooling programs.

ANY TIME THE SUBJECT OF ALCHEMY IS BROUGHT UP IT'S LEAD INTO GOLD IN YOUR FACE OVER AND OVER AGAIN!

Loving this more and more. Haha. Going wiki on each other's faces.
legendary
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June 24, 2016, 11:11:38 AM
That image on the left signifies the birth, death and resurrection of Christ.  The green lion is a separate image.  The green lion was a metaphor for something that was sought by alchemists - an elixir of life - a elixir that would heal any sickness.


Sorry dude but that's "not even wrong".


The Green Lion is a 3rd mostly invisible celestial object in our sky also known as the Black Sun, it's also what causes eclipses.





 The green lion was a mixture of nitric acid and hydrochloric acid.  The sun in that image represents gold and the green lion is dissolving it.



You're full of shit dude.

  Clearly it is a surreal image we are discussing and there may be more than one meaning behind it.  That being said, Alchemists believed that there was a seed from which gold could be grown and that by dissolving and purifying the gold, they could find that seed.  The thought that the "base" metals could be converted to gold.  Considering that the image is taken from the "Rosarium Philosophorum", it would make sense that it has something to do with alchemy/chemistry and less to do with astrology/astronomy. 



Fuck off with the creating gold via hocus-pocus bullshit, that's not what Alchemy is about. That's the story repeated to us over and over again by our corrupt authority figures and their mass media propaganda, social and schooling programs.

ANY TIME THE SUBJECT OF ALCHEMY IS BROUGHT UP IT'S LEAD INTO GOLD IN YOUR FACE OVER AND OVER AGAIN!
legendary
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June 24, 2016, 08:16:05 AM
That image on the left signifies the birth, death and resurrection of Christ.  The green lion is a separate image.  The green lion was a metaphor for something that was sought by alchemists - an elixir of life - a elixir that would heal any sickness.


Sorry dude but that's "not even wrong".


The Green Lion is a 3rd mostly invisible celestial object in our sky also known as the Black Sun, it's also what causes eclipses.





 The green lion was a mixture of nitric acid and hydrochloric acid.  The sun in that image represents gold and the green lion is dissolving it.



You're full of shit dude.

  Clearly it is a surreal image we are discussing and there may be more than one meaning behind it.  That being said, Alchemists believed that there was a seed from which gold could be grown and that by dissolving and purifying the gold, they could find that seed.  The thought that the "base" metals could be converted to gold.  Considering that the image is taken from the "Rosarium Philosophorum", it would make sense that it has something to do with alchemy/chemistry and less to do with astrology/astronomy. 

legendary
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June 24, 2016, 07:15:05 AM
Over the years, after debating with theists on this and other forums and in person, I came to the conclusion that the religious people are not all the same.  
Depending on their intelligence, they fall into one of the following categories:

50-85 IQ - severely retarded to slightly retarded people unable to distinguish what is real and what is not
           Generally, these people do not understand the content of religious texts but they tend to remember
           and cling on some passages that had been presented and explained to them by others.
           This group is a breeding ground for extremists and terrorists.

86-110 IQ - below average to average intelligence, most likely college or university educated folks, these people understand
            that most of the religious texts cannot be interpreted literally as these are historical texts and
            should be interpreted in the context in which they were written.  They tend to compartmentalize
            their religious beliefs and their understanding of science and the world around them.
            These people would most likely never hurt others in the name of the religion, but generally applaud and
            cheer when others kill in the name of their religion.  There are some atheists in this group but not too many.

111-135 IQ - above average intelligence.  Highly educated people, some holding advanced degrees, they are masters of compartmentalization.
             Less religious than the other groups, but still believe in God the creator.  Pascal wagers are in this group.
             This is a breeding ground for atheists as they analyze the religious texts, find inconsistencies, argue
             with other religious people (often with limited success as the mental gaps are just too great).  
             You might find some hard core religious nuts in this group, but very few since it is very hard for
             these people to reconcile religion with the reality around them.  But they try despite the odds.

136+ IQ- these people are mostly atheists, most of them don't even think about God as it is not something even worth
          thinking about.  The question of religion is as clear as 2+2 or A8+F. They know there is no God, that God concept
          was invented by people to help them understand the complex world.  They see organized religions as political
          and/or business entities.

So which group do you belong to?

The easiest way for a person with an average intelligence to become an atheist is to actually read the Bible, Quran and Talmud.
I can guarantee you, some of you will become atheists after reading the Bible alone, you won't have to read Quran.  But I highly recommend you read all three.

Mostly false, because first, I had IQ tests when I was a child to let me pass a class or not, and guess what, I had 136+. Then, I was not raised all my life in religion. No one ever told me about that, ever ! I made all my conclusions alone. If you read the Bible, even beside the existance of God or not, all the commandements and such are so obvious that everyone should follow them naturally.

Also, if you're giving numbers about the US, this place is full of retards...

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June 24, 2016, 06:42:02 AM
Over the years, after debating with theists on this and other forums and in person, I came to the conclusion that the religious people are not all the same.  
Depending on their intelligence, they fall into one of the following categories:

50-85 IQ - severely retarded to slightly retarded people unable to distinguish what is real and what is not
           Generally, these people do not understand the content of religious texts but they tend to remember
           and cling on some passages that had been presented and explained to them by others.
           This group is a breeding ground for extremists and terrorists.

86-110 IQ - below average to average intelligence, most likely college or university educated folks, these people understand
            that most of the religious texts cannot be interpreted literally as these are historical texts and
            should be interpreted in the context in which they were written.  They tend to compartmentalize
            their religious beliefs and their understanding of science and the world around them.
            These people would most likely never hurt others in the name of the religion, but generally applaud and
            cheer when others kill in the name of their religion.  There are some atheists in this group but not too many.

111-135 IQ - above average intelligence.  Highly educated people, some holding advanced degrees, they are masters of compartmentalization.
             Less religious than the other groups, but still believe in God the creator.  Pascal wagers are in this group.
             This is a breeding ground for atheists as they analyze the religious texts, find inconsistencies, argue
             with other religious people (often with limited success as the mental gaps are just too great).  
             You might find some hard core religious nuts in this group, but very few since it is very hard for
             these people to reconcile religion with the reality around them.  But they try despite the odds.

136+ IQ- these people are mostly atheists, most of them don't even think about God as it is not something even worth
          thinking about.  The question of religion is as clear as 2+2 or A8+F. They know there is no God, that God concept
          was invented by people to help them understand the complex world.  They see organized religions as political
          and/or business entities.

So which group do you belong to?

The easiest way for a person with an average intelligence to become an atheist is to actually read the Bible, Quran and Talmud.
I can guarantee you, some of you will become atheists after reading the Bible alone, you won't have to read Quran.  But I highly recommend you read all three.

Mostly false, because first, I had IQ tests when I was a child to let me pass a class or not, and guess what, I had 136+. Then, I was not raised all my life in religion. No one ever told me about that, ever ! I made all my conclusions alone. If you read the Bible, even beside the existance of God or not, all the commandements and such are so obvious that everyone should follow them naturally.

Also, if you're giving numbers about the US, this place is full of retards...
legendary
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June 24, 2016, 02:54:54 AM
That image on the left signifies the birth, death and resurrection of Christ.  The green lion is a separate image.  The green lion was a metaphor for something that was sought by alchemists - an elixir of life - a elixir that would heal any sickness.


Sorry dude but that's "not even wrong".


The Green Lion is a 3rd mostly invisible celestial object in our sky also known as the Black Sun, it's also what causes eclipses.





 The green lion was a mixture of nitric acid and hydrochloric acid.  The sun in that image represents gold and the green lion is dissolving it.



You're full of shit dude.
legendary
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June 23, 2016, 10:10:33 PM
That image on the left signifies the birth, death and resurrection of Christ.  The green lion is a separate image.  The green lion was a metaphor for something that was sought by alchemists - an elixir of life - a elixir that would heal any sickness.


Sorry dude but that's "not even wrong".


The Green Lion is a 3rd mostly invisible celestial object in our sky also known as the Black Sun, it's also what causes eclipses.





 The green lion was a mixture of nitric acid and hydrochloric acid.  The sun in that image represents gold and the green lion is dissolving it.

legendary
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June 23, 2016, 09:22:10 PM

Christians burned those people.  They did it because of your sick ideology as spelled out in the BIBLE.  Don't tell me you follow the New Testament, your Jesus (aka God) inspired (as the story goes) 40+ people to write these manuals (both OLD and NEW) for other psychopaths.

You can pray all you want, unless Jesus posts on this forum and signs his message with my private bitcoin keys, or shows up in person in my house, I am not going to change my mind.  

Even if he shows up, the first thing I would ask him:  Where the fuck where you you motherfucker when people were killing each other in all the wars, where were you when children were dying from disease, cancer you created....I have a long list, so watch out Jesus...

What am I saying? the dude is DEAD, if he ever existed.

My personal take on this whole Christian story is that Romans invented this myth to keep the poor, non-Roman population in check.

So go ahead pray until you piss in your pants...Hey Jesus, if you have any balls, post here, let's go motherfucker.

xhomerx10, guess what? Jesus will not post here, and he will not show up in person, because he your IMAGINARY friend.  Get this through your thick skull.

There, there my child. Relax and be still.

"Be still and know that I am God."

"Take my yoke upon you and learn of me. For my yoke is easy and by burden is light."

"It's hard for you to kick against the goads."


It will be over soon. Just a little while longer. You are drying up from the drug of this world. The pain seems unbearable. But just a little longer and it will all be over. You can't resist the Holy Spirit working in your heart any longer.

God loves you and gave Himself for you in the form of His Son, on the cross. He loves you so very much...

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legendary
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June 23, 2016, 08:39:39 PM
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Here is my interpretation:

God had a wife, but she was old, so he found a sweet 16 year old Mary to fuck on the side.  Mary conceived Jesus.  (That is why Christians to this day say God the father and the son are one) Anyway, God's wife came over to talk to Mary, but before should could say a word, Mary's pet the Green Lion attacked her and ate her.  He left the head for Mary as it was customary to stand on just decapitated head, you know, for good luck and prosperity.

Notice that there is makeup on the giant head, so it must be a woman, or a cross-dresser. Hmm, that could be another story for another time folks.



 I am noticing your mind is incapable of abstaction.  Perhaps that's why you can't see that god is everywhere.  I will pray for you.



You want to pray for me? Don't bother.

You want to pray, pray for people you guys burned alive:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_burned_as_heretics

You want to pray, pray for Giordano Bruno, you little prick.  Religion is the most evil concept ever invented.

PS.  Buy an 'r'.  Run a spell checker.  He wants to pray for me?  LOL  What a dick!!!


 I would imagine with genetics being what they are, the "guys" you speak of are as much yours as mine.  I didn't burn anyone alive.  Giordano Bruno's spirit is with his creator now; he doesn't need my prayers but you do.  Don't worry, it doesn't hurt.
legendary
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June 23, 2016, 08:20:18 PM
I am noticing your mind is incapable of abstaction.  Perhaps that's why you can't see that god is everywhere.  I will pray for you.

The problem is that you do not see god everywhere, you pick and choose

Do you see god in cancer?  AIDS?  Mosquitoes?

Do you see god in atheists and muslims, or just christians?

Do you see your god in all the bad things, or just the good things?

 Yes Melek, I believe all of those things you mentioned are creations of God.
legendary
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June 23, 2016, 08:01:13 PM
...

Here is my interpretation:

God had a wife, but she was old, so he found a sweet 16 year old Mary to fuck on the side.  Mary conceived Jesus.  (That is why Christians to this day say God the father and the son are one) Anyway, God's wife came over to talk to Mary, but before should could say a word, Mary's pet the Green Lion attacked her and ate her.  He left the head for Mary as it was customary to stand on just decapitated head, you know, for good luck and prosperity.

Notice that there is makeup on the giant head, so it must be a woman, or a cross-dresser. Hmm, that could be another story for another time folks.



 I am noticing your mind is incapable of abstaction.  Perhaps that's why you can't see that god is everywhere.  I will pray for you.



You want to pray for me? Don't bother.

You want to pray, pray for people you guys burned alive:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_burned_as_heretics

You want to pray, pray for Giordano Bruno, you little prick.  Religion is the most evil concept ever invented.

PS.  Buy an 'r'.  Run a spell checker.  He wants to pray for me?  LOL  What a dick!!!


Thanks, xhomerx10. Our prayers for af_newbie are having their effect. You can tell by the bitterness in his post. The Holy Spirit just might reach him, yet. Perhaps we shall enjoy his presence with us in joy and glory, forever, after all.

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legendary
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June 23, 2016, 07:09:06 PM
That image on the left signifies the birth, death and resurrection of Christ.  The green lion is a separate image.  The green lion was a metaphor for something that was sought by alchemists - an elixir of life - a elixir that would heal any sickness.


Sorry dude but that's "not even wrong".


The Green Lion is a 3rd mostly invisible celestial object in our sky also known as the Black Sun, it's also what causes eclipses.



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June 23, 2016, 04:18:33 PM
Man when we talk about religion some relgions are more absurd then others.

Similar to how theres so many of these scientology places now ever since celebrities get involved like tom cruise back in the day.
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June 23, 2016, 03:54:58 PM
I am noticing your mind is incapable of abstaction.  Perhaps that's why you can't see that god is everywhere.  I will pray for you.

The problem is that you do not see god everywhere, you pick and choose

Do you see god in cancer?  AIDS?  Mosquitoes?

Do you see god in atheists and muslims, or just christians?

Do you see your god in all the bad things, or just the good things?
legendary
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June 23, 2016, 03:47:17 PM
Look what I found!



Jesus, Mary and The Green Lion

Why is "Mary" standing on some face?  Whose head is that?

From what I see on the photo, she's not standing above that guy on the cross. She's behind on that guy and somehow pleasing that guy on the cross. I wonder what the connection of that green animal with it's tongue out.

But she is standing on a GIANT head!

Whose head is that?

It's way bigger than all the other heads in the image... like ten times the size... is that God's head?  Did Mary decapitate God?

Here is my interpretation:

God had a wife, but she was old, so he found a sweet 16 year old Mary to fuck on the side.  Mary conceived Jesus.  (That is why Christians to this day say God the father and the son are one) Anyway, God's wife came over to talk to Mary, but before should could say a word, Mary's pet the Green Lion attacked her and ate her.  He left the head for Mary as it was customary to stand on just decapitated head, you know, for good luck and prosperity.

Notice that there is makeup on the giant head, so it must be a woman, or a cross-dresser. Hmm, that could be another story for another time folks.



 I am noticing your mind is incapable of abstaction.  Perhaps that's why you can't see that god is everywhere.  I will pray for you.

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June 23, 2016, 03:00:34 PM
Look what I found!



Jesus, Mary and The Green Lion

Cartoon of the day, way back Wink

 Nope this was serious stuff circa 1500

And we have moved on since then. Oh wait.. religious people still live in the bronze age. Guess we haven't
legendary
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June 23, 2016, 10:19:49 AM
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BADecker, I'm trying to explain to you that science does not examine question of God because there is nothing to examine.  God does not even come
as a topic of a casual conversation among scientists.  There is no data.  Nothing to discuss.

You keep saying that science proved existence of God, but I'm telling you no scientific studies can be done on God because he is not observable and there is no physical evidence to examine.

God is an ancient myth.  He exists only in your mind.  Just like when you read a really good novel or watch a really memorable movie, your brain will visualize the scenes from the novel/movie and you will remember them for a long time.  The same way you have constructed an image of God in your brain from the books, web sites you have read.  It is just a construct in your brain.

The process of religious conversion is similar to cult programming.  Images/thoughts supportive of the myth are preserved, opposing thoughts are suppressed.  That is why you are so passionately defending your religion.  That is why Muslims are willing to die for their religion.

I just hope in time you'll come to your senses and you'll see how silly and irrational your position was.

As far as resurrection goes, sorry buddy.  Nobody was ever resurrected.  And nobody will be in the future (unless we evolve into cyborgs capable of resurrection on demand or ROD  Grin)


Just because scientists don't ask the question, or look at the proof, doesn't mean that they haven't proven God exists.

Science is making accidental breakthroughs all the time. Simply look around at the many scientific advancements to see that many of these are accidental findings of scientists who were searching for something completely different than what they found.

Examine the proof for God that I have shown you. It proves God is real.

Besides, not all scientists believe there is no god. Many of them understand that he exists, just like they understand that the existence of life is not understood enough to suggest that life is a possibility. The link found in my https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14706492 post is one tiny, tiny example.

Wake up and stop denying the truth and facts I am showing you. If you won't, why not formalize your religion and get government funding as a minority? Or is that the thing that science has already done... formed a religion of non-religion so they can get funding under something other than religious minority grants?

Cool

Non-religion is not a religion just like not playing sport is not sport. 

I suggest you hold on your belief in God until there is physical, observable evidence of God.  Until then it is just day dreaming at best, a mental disorder otherwise.
legendary
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June 23, 2016, 02:55:46 PM
Look what I found!



Jesus, Mary and The Green Lion

Cartoon of the day, way back Wink

 Nope this was serious stuff circa 1500
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