That image on the left signifies the birth, death and resurrection of Christ. The green lion is a separate image. The green lion was a metaphor for something that was sought by alchemists - an elixir of life - a elixir that would heal any sickness.
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Look what I found!
Jesus, Mary and The Green Lion
Jesus, Mary and The Green Lion
Cartoon of the day, way back
Look what I found!
Jesus, Mary and The Green Lion
Jesus, Mary and The Green Lion
Why is "Mary" standing on some face? Whose head is that?
From what I see on the photo, she's not standing above that guy on the cross. She's behind on that guy and somehow pleasing that guy on the cross. I wonder what the connection of that green animal with it's tongue out.
But she is standing on a GIANT head!
Whose head is that?
It's way bigger than all the other heads in the image... like ten times the size... is that God's head? Did Mary decapitate God?
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But since science has proven that God exists, high faith in God is way more important than stupid high IQ. Why? High IQ people die just like low IQ people. But those who have faith in God at least have a chance to be resurrected to eternal life. Those without faith in God will be resurrected to eternal damnation and destruction. If they had high IQ, it doesn't benefit them at all.
But since science has proven that God exists, high faith in God is way more important than stupid high IQ. Why? High IQ people die just like low IQ people. But those who have faith in God at least have a chance to be resurrected to eternal life. Those without faith in God will be resurrected to eternal damnation and destruction. If they had high IQ, it doesn't benefit them at all.
BADecker, you cannot be resurrected. When you die, you die. If your body is cremated you become ashes.
If they bury you, you become food for maggots, all will be left is bones. You cannot be resurrected from ashes or bones.
BTW, cell death is irreversible. Sorry to disappoint you.
Stop posting these insane statements.
But you are forgetting one of the greatest facts about life. This fact is, there is only ONE reason why we know that life can exist... ONLY ONE. That reason is BECAUSE IT DOES EXIST.
There is nothing in nature and science and thinking that suggests how life could have come to exist in the first place... to say nothing about the abundance and variety. Our best bet - evolution - has been proven so extremely mathematically impossible that it is not even a contender for the idea of being possible... at least in any way that we have been able to imagine. See The Mathematical Impossibility of Evolution - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14706492.
The point? Right now the existence of life is essentially something that is impossible by any means that we can logically imagine. Nor can we imagine how a resurrection could take place. But, since impossible life exists, impossible resurrection can exist as well.
How can life and resurrection exist? Through God, Who has been proven to exist by science.
Your thread about "Mathematical Impossibility of Evolution" assumes that mutations in a living organism decrease "order" in such a organism.
Exactly opposite is true. Mutations make an organism function better in a given environment. That is how organisms become better and better
at what they do, i.e. live and survive.
The rest of the scribbling is just that.
I suggest you read more about evolution before you attempt to discredit it. It is not a theory, it is a fact. With hard, physical evidence.
Regarding resurrection: saying that it exists "through God" is as insane as a concept of a supernatural God. There is no physical evidence of either.
Give me one example of someone (any animal) being resurrected after being cremated or buried.
Don't give me the "but in the future, when Jesus comes, you'll be resurrected...".
The idea of a character from an ancient myth coming back to life is as insane as an idea of resurrection itself.
Nobody can be resurrected. If you think you can, you are not well. You are missing few screws.
Look what I found!
Jesus, Mary and The Green Lion
Jesus, Mary and The Green Lion
Why is "Mary" standing on some face? Whose head is that?
From what I see on the photo, she's not standing above that guy on the cross. She's behind on that guy and somehow pleasing that guy on the cross. I wonder what the connection of that green animal with it's tongue out.
Look what I found!
Jesus, Mary and The Green Lion
Jesus, Mary and The Green Lion
Why is "Mary" standing on some face? Whose head is that?
Don't get me wrong, af_newbie. I am not trying to humiliate you in the least. I am trying to get you to wake up to the fact that God exists, before it is too late for you.
Look what I found!
Jesus, Mary and The Green Lion
Jesus, Mary and The Green Lion
Reminds me of the place Revelation where the dragon goes after the woman. Revelation 12:1-6:
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1 A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.
2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.
3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads.
4 His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born.
5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.
6 The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.
2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.
3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads.
4 His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born.
5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.
6 The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.
Were you able to get a translation of the wording in your picture?
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But since science has proven that God exists, high faith in God is way more important than stupid high IQ. Why? High IQ people die just like low IQ people. But those who have faith in God at least have a chance to be resurrected to eternal life. Those without faith in God will be resurrected to eternal damnation and destruction. If they had high IQ, it doesn't benefit them at all.
But since science has proven that God exists, high faith in God is way more important than stupid high IQ. Why? High IQ people die just like low IQ people. But those who have faith in God at least have a chance to be resurrected to eternal life. Those without faith in God will be resurrected to eternal damnation and destruction. If they had high IQ, it doesn't benefit them at all.
BADecker, you cannot be resurrected. When you die, you die. If your body is cremated you become ashes. If they bury you, you become food for maggots, all will be left is bones. You cannot be resurrected from ashes or bones.
BTW, cell death is irreversible. Sorry to disappoint you.
Stop posting these insane statements.
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BADecker, I'm trying to explain to you that science does not examine question of God because there is nothing to examine. God does not even come
as a topic of a casual conversation among scientists. There is no data. Nothing to discuss.
You keep saying that science proved existence of God, but I'm telling you no scientific studies can be done on God because he is not observable and there is no physical evidence to examine.
God is an ancient myth. He exists only in your mind. Just like when you read a really good novel or watch a really memorable movie, your brain will visualize the scenes from the novel/movie and you will remember them for a long time. The same way you have constructed an image of God in your brain from the books, web sites you have read. It is just a construct in your brain.
The process of religious conversion is similar to cult programming. Images/thoughts supportive of the myth are preserved, opposing thoughts are suppressed. That is why you are so passionately defending your religion. That is why Muslims are willing to die for their religion.
I just hope in time you'll come to your senses and you'll see how silly and irrational your position was.
As far as resurrection goes, sorry buddy. Nobody was ever resurrected. And nobody will be in the future (unless we evolve into cyborgs capable of resurrection on demand or ROD
)
BADecker, I'm trying to explain to you that science does not examine question of God because there is nothing to examine. God does not even come
as a topic of a casual conversation among scientists. There is no data. Nothing to discuss.
You keep saying that science proved existence of God, but I'm telling you no scientific studies can be done on God because he is not observable and there is no physical evidence to examine.
God is an ancient myth. He exists only in your mind. Just like when you read a really good novel or watch a really memorable movie, your brain will visualize the scenes from the novel/movie and you will remember them for a long time. The same way you have constructed an image of God in your brain from the books, web sites you have read. It is just a construct in your brain.
The process of religious conversion is similar to cult programming. Images/thoughts supportive of the myth are preserved, opposing thoughts are suppressed. That is why you are so passionately defending your religion. That is why Muslims are willing to die for their religion.
I just hope in time you'll come to your senses and you'll see how silly and irrational your position was.
As far as resurrection goes, sorry buddy. Nobody was ever resurrected. And nobody will be in the future (unless we evolve into cyborgs capable of resurrection on demand or ROD
)Just because scientists don't ask the question, or look at the proof, doesn't mean that they haven't proven God exists.
Science is making accidental breakthroughs all the time. Simply look around at the many scientific advancements to see that many of these are accidental findings of scientists who were searching for something completely different than what they found.
Examine the proof for God that I have shown you. It proves God is real.
Besides, not all scientists believe there is no god. Many of them understand that he exists, just like they understand that the existence of life is not understood enough to suggest that life is a possibility. The link found in my https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14706492 post is one tiny, tiny example.
Wake up and stop denying the truth and facts I am showing you. If you won't, why not formalize your religion and get government funding as a minority? Or is that the thing that science has already done... formed a religion of non-religion so they can get funding under something other than religious minority grants?
Non-religion is not a religion just like not playing sport is not sport.
I suggest you hold on your belief in God until there is physical, observable evidence of God. Until then it is just day dreaming at best, a mental disorder otherwise.
Science theory suggests Big Bang was an actual event. Yet it is theory, not fact (even though the event itself might seem to have been fact in some ways).
Science fact suggests that God is an actual Being. Since God is proven by science fact rather than conceptualized by science theory (not necessarily fact), why do you keep on ignoring science?
Keep on believing the fantasy that your idea of non-religion is not a religion.
Look what I found!
Jesus, Mary and The Green Lion
Jesus, Mary and The Green Lion
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BADecker, I'm trying to explain to you that science does not examine question of God because there is nothing to examine. God does not even come
as a topic of a casual conversation among scientists. There is no data. Nothing to discuss.
You keep saying that science proved existence of God, but I'm telling you no scientific studies can be done on God because he is not observable and there is no physical evidence to examine.
God is an ancient myth. He exists only in your mind. Just like when you read a really good novel or watch a really memorable movie, your brain will visualize the scenes from the novel/movie and you will remember them for a long time. The same way you have constructed an image of God in your brain from the books, web sites you have read. It is just a construct in your brain.
The process of religious conversion is similar to cult programming. Images/thoughts supportive of the myth are preserved, opposing thoughts are suppressed. That is why you are so passionately defending your religion. That is why Muslims are willing to die for their religion.
I just hope in time you'll come to your senses and you'll see how silly and irrational your position was.
As far as resurrection goes, sorry buddy. Nobody was ever resurrected. And nobody will be in the future (unless we evolve into cyborgs capable of resurrection on demand or ROD)
BADecker, I'm trying to explain to you that science does not examine question of God because there is nothing to examine. God does not even come
as a topic of a casual conversation among scientists. There is no data. Nothing to discuss.
You keep saying that science proved existence of God, but I'm telling you no scientific studies can be done on God because he is not observable and there is no physical evidence to examine.
God is an ancient myth. He exists only in your mind. Just like when you read a really good novel or watch a really memorable movie, your brain will visualize the scenes from the novel/movie and you will remember them for a long time. The same way you have constructed an image of God in your brain from the books, web sites you have read. It is just a construct in your brain.
The process of religious conversion is similar to cult programming. Images/thoughts supportive of the myth are preserved, opposing thoughts are suppressed. That is why you are so passionately defending your religion. That is why Muslims are willing to die for their religion.
I just hope in time you'll come to your senses and you'll see how silly and irrational your position was.
As far as resurrection goes, sorry buddy. Nobody was ever resurrected. And nobody will be in the future (unless we evolve into cyborgs capable of resurrection on demand or ROD
)Just because scientists don't ask the question, or look at the proof, doesn't mean that they haven't proven God exists.
Science is making accidental breakthroughs all the time. Simply look around at the many scientific advancements to see that many of these are accidental findings of scientists who were searching for something completely different than what they found.
Examine the proof for God that I have shown you. It proves God is real.
Besides, not all scientists believe there is no god. Many of them understand that he exists, just like they understand that the existence of life is not understood enough to suggest that life is a possibility. The link found in my https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14706492 post is one tiny, tiny example.
Wake up and stop denying the truth and facts I am showing you. If you won't, why not formalize your religion and get government funding as a minority? Or is that the thing that science has already done... formed a religion of non-religion so they can get funding under something other than religious minority grants?
EDIT: Are you saying that Big Bang will always remain in the realm of theory because nobody will ever be able to go back and study it? You are so self-contradictory.
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But since science has proven that God exists, high faith in God is way more important than stupid high IQ. Why? High IQ people die just like low IQ people. But those who have faith in God at least have a chance to be resurrected to eternal life. Those without faith in God will be resurrected to eternal damnation and destruction. If they had high IQ, it doesn't benefit them at all.
But since science has proven that God exists, high faith in God is way more important than stupid high IQ. Why? High IQ people die just like low IQ people. But those who have faith in God at least have a chance to be resurrected to eternal life. Those without faith in God will be resurrected to eternal damnation and destruction. If they had high IQ, it doesn't benefit them at all.
BADecker, you cannot be resurrected. When you die, you die. If your body is cremated you become ashes. If they bury you, you become food for maggots, all will be left is bones. You cannot be resurrected from ashes or bones.
BTW, cell death is irreversible. Sorry to disappoint you.
Stop posting these insane statements.
But you are forgetting one of the greatest facts about life. This fact is, there is only ONE reason why we know that life can exist... ONLY ONE. That reason is BECAUSE IT DOES EXIST.
There is nothing in nature and science and thinking that suggests how life could have come to exist in the first place... to say nothing about the abundance and variety. Our best bet - evolution - has been proven so extremely mathematically impossible that it is not even a contender for the idea of being possible... at least in any way that we have been able to imagine. See The Mathematical Impossibility of Evolution - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14706492.
The point? Right now the existence of life is essentially something that is impossible by any means that we can logically imagine. Nor can we imagine how a resurrection could take place. But, since impossible life exists, impossible resurrection can exist as well.
How can life and resurrection exist? Through God, Who has been proven to exist by science.
Your thread about "Mathematical Impossibility of Evolution" assumes that mutations in a living organism decrease "order" in such organism.
Exactly opposite is true. Mutations make an organism function better in a given environment. That is how organisms become better and better
at what they do, i.e. live and survive.
The rest of the scribbling is just that.
I suggest you read on evolution before you attempt to discredit it. It is not a theory, it is a fact. With hard, physical evidence.
So, you have never heard of the Theory of Evolution then? Science considers it a theory simply because evolution in nature has not been proven to be a fact. Again, when you look at so-called evolution that is found in nature, it all can more readily be shown to be built-in genetic programming that is made to adapt to the environment.People like you who believe evolution is fact in opposition to what science itself says, have a religion going for yourselves. I admire the fact that you have such strong faith in your evolution religion, but it is science fiction, not science fact.
Regarding resurrection: Saying that it exists "through God" is as insane as a concept of a supernatural God. There is no physical evidence of either.
Cause and effect, the fact that the universe is highly complex, and the fact of universal entropy, when combined, prove that God exists. The God that is proven by this science is NOT the God described by the religions. Yet, He/It is a God shown by the definition of the word "God."- Cause and effect in everything shows that everything was programmed.
- To program something as complex as the universe means complexity of a far greater nature in the programmer.
- The complexity shows that the programmer must have been ONE - as opposed to many programmers working in concert - because there would be lack of cohesion in the parts of the universe if there were many programmers, and the whole project would never have gotten off the ground, so to speak.
- Universal entropy shows that there must have been a beginning to the programming, and that the whole universe is becoming less complex all the time. This means that even we are intellectually less capable than our ancestors, who understood way more clearly that God exists.
- The greatness of the Creator proven by this science, and upheld by lots more science, is of the type that shows the Creator to not only be God, but to be God way beyond all our imaginings of how great a God can be.
Regarding the resurrection, there is little or no evidence for it other than the things that God has told the people... that there will definitely be a resurrection. But you have to look at the religions to see this. It isn't easily found in science.
Give me one example of someone (any animal) being resurrected after being cremated or buried. Don't give me the "but in the future, when Jesus comes, you'll be resurrected...". The idea of a character from an ancient myth coming back to life is as insane as an idea of resurrection itself.
No direct examples are available that I am aware of. However, there is no reason why life even exists, or can exist, either.The resurrection theme is based on what God has told people through several religions, but mostly the Judeo-Christian religion, which religion is as impossible to exist as life is.
Nobody can be resurrected. If you think you can, you are not well. You are missing few screws.
Actually, if you do not recognize God, and recognize that He tells us that He will resurrect us, you are the one who is not well. You have fallen into a detrimental mutation of your soul which is as destructive to you as some form of detrimental mutation of the body was to survivors and children of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
The difference is, God is willing to heal your soul. And this healing will lead you to eternal life in glory and joy after the resurrection.
Why hasn't science discovered this? Science needs two things to understand all this:
1. Honesty in looking at the science they have found: they ignore the science that proves God exists;
2. Enough millions of years to prove out such a greatness as God: it will take this long because of our remoteness.
EDIT: I want to thank you, however, for attempting to contradict the science that shows God. Why? Because our training in the schools in this world tries to draw us away from the fact that God exists. And every time I have to explain how science shows that God exists, it strengthens other aspects of my faith in Him. And this is the thing He is looking for in all of us... faith in the things that He tells us = faith in Him.
So, thank you for helping my faith in God to grow.
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But since science has proven that God exists, high faith in God is way more important than stupid high IQ. Why? High IQ people die just like low IQ people. But those who have faith in God at least have a chance to be resurrected to eternal life. Those without faith in God will be resurrected to eternal damnation and destruction. If they had high IQ, it doesn't benefit them at all.
But since science has proven that God exists, high faith in God is way more important than stupid high IQ. Why? High IQ people die just like low IQ people. But those who have faith in God at least have a chance to be resurrected to eternal life. Those without faith in God will be resurrected to eternal damnation and destruction. If they had high IQ, it doesn't benefit them at all.
BADecker, you cannot be resurrected. When you die, you die. If your body is cremated you become ashes. If they bury you, you become food for maggots, all will be left is bones. You cannot be resurrected from ashes or bones.
BTW, cell death is irreversible. Sorry to disappoint you.
Stop posting these insane statements.
But you are forgetting one of the greatest facts about life. This fact is, there is only ONE reason why we know that life can exist... ONLY ONE. That reason is BECAUSE IT DOES EXIST.
There is nothing in nature and science and thinking that suggests how life could have come to exist in the first place... to say nothing about the abundance and variety. Our best bet - evolution - has been proven so extremely mathematically impossible that it is not even a contender for the idea of being possible... at least in any way that we have been able to imagine. See The Mathematical Impossibility of Evolution - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14706492.
The point? Right now the existence of life is essentially something that is impossible by any means that we can logically imagine. Nor can we imagine how a resurrection could take place. But, since impossible life exists, impossible resurrection can exist as well.
How can life and resurrection exist? Through God, Who has been proven to exist by science.
While some have high IQ and weak faith in God, others have weak IQ with great faith in God.
I agree 100%
High IQ = low faith in god
Low IQ = high faith in god
First true statement you have ever made... congrats
This is even supported by science!
The data may be somewhat biased. Most of the non-religious live in the East Asian countries such as China and Japan, where the national IQ average is among the highest in the world. And most of the ultra-conservatives live in the Middle-east, South Asia, and the Sub-Saharan Africa, where the national IQ averages around 60 to 70.
While some have high IQ and weak faith in God, others have weak IQ with great faith in God.
I agree 100%
High IQ = low faith in god
Low IQ = high faith in god
First true statement you have ever made... congrats
This is even supported by science!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence
But since science has proven that God exists, high faith in God is way more important than stupid high IQ. Why? High IQ people die just like low IQ people. But those who have faith in God at least have a chance to be resurrected to eternal life. Those without faith in God will be resurrected to eternal damnation and destruction. If they had high IQ, it doesn't benefit them at all.
While some have high IQ and weak faith in God, others have weak IQ with great faith in God.
I agree 100%
High IQ = low faith in god
Low IQ = high faith in god
First true statement you have ever made... congrats
This is even supported by science!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence
While some have high IQ and weak faith in God, others have weak IQ with great faith in God.
I agree 100%
High IQ = low faith in god
Low IQ = high faith in god
First true statement you have ever made... congrats
This is even supported by science!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence
Over the years, after debating with theists on this and other forums and in person, I came to the conclusion that the religious people are not all the same.
Depending on their intelligence, they fall into one of the following categories:
50-85 IQ - severely retarded to slightly retarded people unable to distinguish what is real and what is not
Generally, these people do not understand the content of religious texts but they tend to remember
and cling on some passages that had been presented and explained to them by others.
This group is a breeding ground for extremists and terrorists.
86-110 IQ - below average to average intelligence, most likely college or university educated folks, these people understand
that most of the religious texts cannot be interpreted literally as these are historical texts and
should be interpreted in the context in which they were written. They tend to compartmentalize
their religious beliefs and their understanding of science and the world around them.
These people would most likely never hurt others in the name of the religion, but generally applaud and
cheer when others kill in the name of their religion. There are some atheists in this group but not too many.
111-135 IQ - above average intelligence. Highly educated people, some holding advanced degrees, they are masters of compartmentalization.
Less religious than the other groups, but still believe in God the creator. Pascal wagers are in this group.
This is a breeding ground for atheists as they analyze the religious texts, find inconsistencies, argue
with other religious people (often with limited success as the mental gaps are just too great).
You might find some hard core religious nuts in this group, but very few since it is very hard for
these people to reconcile religion with the reality around them. But they try despite the odds.
136+ IQ- these people are mostly atheists, most of them don't even think about God as it is not something even worth
thinking about. The question of religion is as clear as 2+2 or A8+F. They know there is no God, that God concept
was invented by people to help them understand the complex world. They see organized religions as political
and/or business entities.
So which group do you belong to?
The easiest way for a person with an average intelligence to become an atheist is to actually read the Bible, Quran and Talmud.
I can guarantee you, some of you will become atheists after reading the Bible alone, you won't have to read Quran. But I highly recommend you read all three.
Depending on their intelligence, they fall into one of the following categories:
50-85 IQ - severely retarded to slightly retarded people unable to distinguish what is real and what is not
Generally, these people do not understand the content of religious texts but they tend to remember
and cling on some passages that had been presented and explained to them by others.
This group is a breeding ground for extremists and terrorists.
86-110 IQ - below average to average intelligence, most likely college or university educated folks, these people understand
that most of the religious texts cannot be interpreted literally as these are historical texts and
should be interpreted in the context in which they were written. They tend to compartmentalize
their religious beliefs and their understanding of science and the world around them.
These people would most likely never hurt others in the name of the religion, but generally applaud and
cheer when others kill in the name of their religion. There are some atheists in this group but not too many.
111-135 IQ - above average intelligence. Highly educated people, some holding advanced degrees, they are masters of compartmentalization.
Less religious than the other groups, but still believe in God the creator. Pascal wagers are in this group.
This is a breeding ground for atheists as they analyze the religious texts, find inconsistencies, argue
with other religious people (often with limited success as the mental gaps are just too great).
You might find some hard core religious nuts in this group, but very few since it is very hard for
these people to reconcile religion with the reality around them. But they try despite the odds.
136+ IQ- these people are mostly atheists, most of them don't even think about God as it is not something even worth
thinking about. The question of religion is as clear as 2+2 or A8+F. They know there is no God, that God concept
was invented by people to help them understand the complex world. They see organized religions as political
and/or business entities.
So which group do you belong to?
The easiest way for a person with an average intelligence to become an atheist is to actually read the Bible, Quran and Talmud.
I can guarantee you, some of you will become atheists after reading the Bible alone, you won't have to read Quran. But I highly recommend you read all three.
IQ tests are designed by slick business people to sucker a certain brand of people into working for them and making them a lot of money. They do this to find the people who love money rather than God. Why? Because these are the kinds of people they need to make money.
When it comes to God and religion, all people are equal, but often the people who have been suckered into working for money have rejected the truth of God, which shows that their "truth" IQ is a lot lower.
That is a very communist thing to say. All people are definitely not equal. Some are smarter than others.
Do you want evidence? Read posts in this thread.
That's a very deceptive thing to say. All people have great qualities as well as some not so great. While some have high IQ and weak faith in God, others have weak IQ with great faith in God.
It is the high IQ idiots that have neglected the fact that science proves that God exists. They would rather try to ignore the truth, and work on finding some way to prove that God doesn't exist, instead. Even though they have been tested and found to have a high IQ, they prove their stupidity by ignoring the fact of God, while trying to find fact against Him.
Since God is what is important, what good is this stupid high IQ?
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