In Crypto We Trust - I like this one
Topic: Religious beliefs on bitcoin - page 34. (Read 22413 times)
hahaha atleast it made me laugh
In Crypto We Trust - I like this one
In Crypto We Trust - I like this one
LOL. Yeah. The one-world currency, the first tool of the antichrist. Seems fitting, until you realize that it doesn't fit the criteria.
1. The one world currency proposed in the bible requires that a chip be implanted on someone to make transactions, and that no other means are allowed, this would require the currency to be controlled, and centralized. Not bitcoin.
2. Bitcoin has many alternatives
3. There's some scenarios where bitcoins just will never be viable. Specifically the places where simple cash is most used.
4. The bible is dumb.
The best way to become an atheist is by reading the bible.
xD
If you just accept the things how they are, and don't ask why and how you really are a dumb person, ignorant...1. The one world currency proposed in the bible requires that a chip be implanted on someone to make transactions, and that no other means are allowed, this would require the currency to be controlled, and centralized. Not bitcoin.
2. Bitcoin has many alternatives
3. There's some scenarios where bitcoins just will never be viable. Specifically the places where simple cash is most used.
4. The bible is dumb.
The best way to become an atheist is by reading the bible.
xD
That's why there are many atheists, they realized some things on time.
Haha i like this
Sorry I only go to www.ministryofBitdust.com In Bitdust we trust 
I introduced bitcoin to a friend and they started talking about how the bible predicts a currency take over and its the start of the Revelation.
Has anyone else run into this problem?
Has anyone else run into this problem?
I have had people say things like that to me, not that I'd label it a problem. But I can certainly understand where this is coming from. When I was much younger, and still under the influence of the religious views of others, I recall hearing about the "Mark of the Beast" and, probably more than 20 years ago, had discussions with people about implanting chips in our bodies to use as money. I used to tell myself, "No way! I'd never do that. I'd die first!". I'm much wiser today. Most people aren't.
When I look back at all of the atrocities committed by mankind recently and throughout the millennia, I find that most of them were done in the name of religion. I can see time, after time, after time again, where people were basically brainwashed into doing what was right for the religious leaders but far from righteous. I can see now how a prophecy of something like Bitcoin could scare these leaders. I can see now why we might be lead to believe this is the Mark of the Beast and should avoid it at all costs, when really it's just a matter of self preservation for the unrighteous leaders of church and state.
As far as the "problem" goes, don't worry about it. You cannot argue with irrational people so don't even try. These people, as nice as they might be, are sheep. They have proven that by their current belief systems. And just like sheep, when the world begins adopting Bitcoin, they too will fall in line. Try to find better people to have philosophical discussions with and stick to talking sports and weather with these types.
Who knows your friend may be onto something, out of the mouth of babes.
I do not think the reference to the mark of the beast, is correct for this situation.
Perhaps your friend was suggesting a relation between Bitcoin playing the role of a catalyst for the vision described in the book of Daniel Chapter 2.
"The second chapter of Daniel contains the prophetic vision (received by King Nebuchadnezzar) of the great image that Daniel by inspiration showed to represent the march of Gentile world powers, ending with their destruction by the Kingdom set up by “the God of heaven,” which Kingdom then rules earth wide."
http://biblehub.com/daniel/2-34.htm
http://biblehub.com/daniel/2-35.htm
"34 You kept on looking until a stone was cut out not by hands, and it struck the image on its feet of iron and of molded clay and crushed them."
"35 At that time the iron, the molded clay, the copper, the silver and the gold were, all together, crushed and became like the chaff from the summer threshing floor, and the wind carried them away so that no trace at all was found of them. And as for the stone that struck the image, it became a large mountain and filled the whole earth."
Daniels vision today is expected to serve as a prophetic precursor to events still to occur. We can only speculate as to what it will be (hind site is 20/20 after all).
Edit: Photo Update
The image depicts the succession of world powers starting with Babylon and ending with all of them being crushed and replaced by the Kingdom of God (2:1-49)
It is believed that the iron, the molded clay, the copper, the silver and the gold are a reflection of today's fractured political and economic global condition.
Like elements poorly forged together, it would take little effort, in this case Bitcoin and its adoption, to bring change to today's current economic, financial, and political global landscape.
If you would like to read more about the book of Daniel and come to your own conclusions regarding it's implications for the future, then give this link a read.
Listen to the Bible in your language online.
Edit: Some may find the image depicted below humorous.
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I'm going to attempt to put everything in perspective (bitcoins, the bible, this particular topic, etc) and boil it all down to a convenient little nugget with just this one post. 
Let's say that the guy who originally wrote this section of the bible (like any observant person) understood that whoever controls the monetary system controls people overly, and said as much. Whatever he originally wrote got interpreted and translated a few major times, more or less by fruitcakes, and we're left with the bizarre edition we have now, although the original idea is roughly the same.
Let's also say that this forum is already half full of topics pointing out many, genuinely viable vectors of takeover of bitcoin by the current (or new) power elite.
Let's also say that with current technology, marking or implanting yourself to be able to spend and accept money without any tokens or externalities as a matter of convenience (or fear or "national security") is very easily achieved. This would give control of the population at least an order of magnitude higher to the monetary system controllers than what exists now, if everybody was doing it.
Let's say the current power elite have control of the biggest mass media FUD machine ever seen in the history of the earth, bombarding most everybody with FUD and misinformation all the time and convincing the stupid of whatever they want.
Let's say that there are a lot of stupid people and not a few ambitious, powerful control freaks.
As far as actually realizing this bizarro Revelations bible thing with bitcoins, I guess it all boils down to how mainstream bitcoin gets and how many stupid people there are marking or implanting themselves and how strong the ambition and power of the control freaks is.
That's about all I got.
Let's say that the guy who originally wrote this section of the bible (like any observant person) understood that whoever controls the monetary system controls people overly, and said as much. Whatever he originally wrote got interpreted and translated a few major times, more or less by fruitcakes, and we're left with the bizarre edition we have now, although the original idea is roughly the same.
Let's also say that this forum is already half full of topics pointing out many, genuinely viable vectors of takeover of bitcoin by the current (or new) power elite.
Let's also say that with current technology, marking or implanting yourself to be able to spend and accept money without any tokens or externalities as a matter of convenience (or fear or "national security") is very easily achieved. This would give control of the population at least an order of magnitude higher to the monetary system controllers than what exists now, if everybody was doing it.
Let's say the current power elite have control of the biggest mass media FUD machine ever seen in the history of the earth, bombarding most everybody with FUD and misinformation all the time and convincing the stupid of whatever they want.
Let's say that there are a lot of stupid people and not a few ambitious, powerful control freaks.
As far as actually realizing this bizarro Revelations bible thing with bitcoins, I guess it all boils down to how mainstream bitcoin gets and how many stupid people there are marking or implanting themselves and how strong the ambition and power of the control freaks is.
That's about all I got.
I thought you were going to mention how Muslims can only use certain forex brokers for some weird fucking reason.
The "weird fucking reason" being: making money from money is considered haram (sinful) in Islam. Which is exactly why the Islamic Bank of Bitcoin doesn't take interest.
So on one hand Islam is a logical friend of bitcoin, due to the whole "deconstructing traditional banking" thing.
On the other hand Islam is a logical enemy of bitcoinERS, due to the... just look at the marketplace and you'll get it.
On a happier note, lending at a profit is perfectly fine for Christians ... as long as they don't bother reading the Bible:
If thou lend money to any of my people with thee that is poor, thou shalt not be to him as a creditor; neither shall ye lay upon him interest. Exodus 22:25, American Standard translation (to avoid archaic use of usury In KJV)
I reserve the right to interpret the bible any way I see fit to match my lifestyle. In my version GOD loves lending, interest and hookers.
He certainly loves hookers (one of the Marys), and possibly blow, but lenders? Not so much. Pretty tough to make a soft & fuzzy tracting of the Bible where Usury is concerned. I remember first it was like Son of Man raging at all the money lenders and then it was like royal pwnage on the cross.
I thought you were going to mention how Muslims can only use certain forex brokers for some weird fucking reason.
The "weird fucking reason" being: making money from money is considered haram (sinful) in Islam. Which is exactly why the Islamic Bank of Bitcoin doesn't take interest.
So on one hand Islam is a logical friend of bitcoin, due to the whole "deconstructing traditional banking" thing.
On the other hand Islam is a logical enemy of bitcoinERS, due to the... just look at the marketplace and you'll get it.
On a happier note, lending at a profit is perfectly fine for Christians ... as long as they don't bother reading the Bible:
If thou lend money to any of my people with thee that is poor, thou shalt not be to him as a creditor; neither shall ye lay upon him interest. Exodus 22:25, American Standard translation (to avoid archaic use of usury In KJV)
I reserve the right to interpret the bible any way I see fit to match my lifestyle. In my version GOD loves lending, interest and hookers.
I thought you were going to mention how Muslims can only use certain forex brokers for some weird fucking reason.
The "weird fucking reason" being: making money from money is considered haram (sinful) in Islam. Which is exactly why the Islamic Bank of Bitcoin doesn't take interest.
So on one hand Islam is a logical friend of bitcoin, due to the whole "deconstructing traditional banking" thing.
On the other hand Islam is a logical enemy of bitcoinERS, due to the... just look at the marketplace and you'll get it.
On a happier note, lending at a profit is perfectly fine for Christians ... as long as they don't bother reading the Bible:
If thou lend money to any of my people with thee that is poor, thou shalt not be to him as a creditor; neither shall ye lay upon him interest. Exodus 22:25, American Standard translation (to avoid archaic use of usury In KJV)
Would anyone be interested in starting a "Church of Development". Where "god" is "the future", and we worship by making it better. Basically just a developmental coin charity that religiously works towards the future.
I am a certified minister and I will work to get non-profit status in my state, but here is the base for the organization, I already have 200 members:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/church-of-development-213405
If anyone wants to get married or exercise demons, I can legally do the ceremony
I am a certified minister and I will work to get non-profit status in my state, but here is the base for the organization, I already have 200 members:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/church-of-development-213405
If anyone wants to get married or exercise demons, I can legally do the ceremony
Religion = Brain Disease
Agree in general, though Von Braun himself wasn't in the private sector. All of his work was sponsored by the Nazis directly. With all the nationalistic fanfare surrounding the moonshot, the man directly responsible for putting us there is an SS major, and the engines that got us there are directly descended from V-2.
It's true he pretty much came directly out of university into the Nazi party. He wasn't the only person responsible for NASA's success though. It took a lot of engineering talent from several different fields to make the Apollo program happen.Including some free market talent from Russia. The physics used to launch the rocket into space in the first place came from my great*3 grandpa Tsiolkovsky, and I've heard (hearsay) that some of the calculations and mechanics for the actual moon landing came from some poor destitute and unrecognized chap in Russia who died before his papers were found and put into use by NASA.
Yes but each block takes 9 months
They're quite expensive. The supply is getting lower with guantanamo, nsa, fbi, etc.
Yes but they're not like BitCoins - they just print more when more are needed.
They're quite expensive. The supply is getting lower with guantanamo, nsa, fbi, etc.
Anyone know where to get a Muslim mortgage?
Wow, how much do Muslims cost these days anyway?
Yes no interest though they found ingenious ways to get it anyway.
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