Topic: Religious leader barred from casinos because of big wins. - page 4. (Read 763 times)
As you can see, his “religion” is subordinate to money, and, as the OP correctly put it, he is the leader of a sect. But probably each of us understands what a sect is. This is where people, hiding behind faith in God, interpret the rules as they please and not as they are written in the holy books. Therefore, one should not be surprised that this “archbishop” is a player and serves mammon, not God. However, he walks on the edge if he believes he is doing pious deeds under the guise of faith.
I personally do not care who gambles or not, because in this specific case we are talking about a sect. It would be different if the Pope started gambling, in which I would be personally against, because I follow him.
I am rather of the mentality all of us should be able to have the freedom to do what we want, while we do not inflict harm upon anyone else, in this case, that man is not inflicting harm.
Though, we could argue he is somehow harming and tainting the reputation of the Christian religion by claiming to be a prophet of some sort, but that is getting into religious debate, rather than gambling and the right all people above the legal law has to partake in this activity.
If you wanted my religious opinion,.I would say someone who claims to be a religious leader and wins consistently in gambling is likely to be being helped by "demons".
Just my two sats 🪙
I am rather of the mentality all of us should be able to have the freedom to do what we want, while we do not inflict harm upon anyone else, in this case, that man is not inflicting harm.
Though, we could argue he is somehow harming and tainting the reputation of the Christian religion by claiming to be a prophet of some sort, but that is getting into religious debate, rather than gambling and the right all people above the legal law has to partake in this activity.
If you wanted my religious opinion,.I would say someone who claims to be a religious leader and wins consistently in gambling is likely to be being helped by "demons".
Just my two sats 🪙
Do you think a religious leader should be involved in gambling? Do also accept his reason for engaging in gambling? Are these casinos right to ban him from gambling?
God is the provider of everything we need and he promised to provide for anyone who seek from him, I think he just hide under the umbrella of religious leader to be a gambler, if someone forbid you from something he will never bring out positive things from there, so God will not reveal anything good for you that will go against is command.
I don't think casino have right to ban him because right from start they didn't set any rules like that, they are here to do business, if they can stop addicted gambler for gambling everyday because it is destroying his life then I will say they can ban him.
Absolutely right, it's not easy to be a religious leader because you won't be able to do most things. However a religious leader can not gamble because he has to keep his reputation and also make those who is looking up to him to know that he's fit for the leadership. A good religion leader thinks on how to grow his people or personality, so if the young ones that's looking up to him for a good leadership gamble the religion leader is not to gamble with them, even if the leader needs entertainment there is another way to be entertained instead of him to gamble. Some religious are not totally against gamble but they don't want to gamble because they believe that they can't be lucky to win the amount of money they are looking for. And they also believes that gamble is a scam.
It's really wrong for them to think they will make certain amount of money from gambling, that's also the reason why they think gambling is scam, just because they can't earn from gambling, they judge gambling is scam. They didn't understand what house edge is and how the games work, they live in delusional since they will make money just like the influencers in social medias that are lucky. 
Do you think a religious leader should be involved in gambling?
No.Do also accept his reason for engaging in gambling?
No.Are these casinos right to ban him from gambling?
Yes.The casino's reason about stopping him is normal when they have one customer that keeps on cashing out money from him. But his reason about that it's given to him by his god is unbelievable.
While I know that there are faithful folks but him being an example as a bishop or leader of his religion, he should set himself as an example to his followers.
Archbishop Emmanuel Mutumwa, who is the leader of Johanne Masowe eChishanu Apostolic Sect has been banned from betting in local casinos because of excess wins. His current win was about US$30,000 and these casino operators fear that they might go bankrupt if he continues gambling with them.
But the acclaimed prophet claim that he receives winning games from God through vision. He further stated that with his numerous wins, he has been able to pay school fees and start businesses for members of his religious organization. While other religious leaders perceive his actions as sinful, he thinks his wins are an avenue to be a blessing to the needy.
Do you think a religious leader should be involved in gambling? Do also accept his reason for engaging in gambling? Are these casinos right to ban him from gambling?
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But the acclaimed prophet claim that he receives winning games from God through vision. He further stated that with his numerous wins, he has been able to pay school fees and start businesses for members of his religious organization. While other religious leaders perceive his actions as sinful, he thinks his wins are an avenue to be a blessing to the needy.
Do you think a religious leader should be involved in gambling? Do also accept his reason for engaging in gambling? Are these casinos right to ban him from gambling?
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Interesting case. I'll try to answer your question the way I see it..
I believe that a religious leader should not engage in gambling because he is not setting a good example. God revealed it to him and he wins, and another person who comes to his church may think that God revealed it to him too and go lose all his money. That is, the whole point is what example we set for others. If this is a leader doing anything, he must understand that many people can fall under his influence and will do the same, be it something good or bad.
As for the casino, I believe that it is their own business whether it should be banned or not. If they do not break the law, then they have the right to do what they see fit
Lol, this post made my morning because I just can't stop laughing that the casino banned the Archbishop, and he said that he got his wins from revelations. It is funny that casinos are scared of losing but they love to see gamblers losing to them. This alone has shown that casinos are trap to collect our money when we don't gamble for fun.
I don't see anything wrong in what the religious leader did, because if he does not gamble all the time that he will become an addict, but gambles once a while for fun, it is not bad. Religious leaders drink alcohol and we don't say that it is bad.
I don't see anything wrong in what the religious leader did, because if he does not gamble all the time that he will become an addict, but gambles once a while for fun, it is not bad. Religious leaders drink alcohol and we don't say that it is bad.
Do you think a religious leader should be involved in gambling? Do also accept his reason for engaging in gambling? Are these casinos right to ban him from gambling?
The religious leader's reasons for gambling is very noble as far as I'm concerned, if he's dedicating his winnings to alleviate poverty, then he should be encouraged. I think that he's better than those religious leaders that will take from the poor and enrich themselves.
I think that it's not right for casinos to ban him because of his wins everytime because if he was losing that same amount they wouldn't consider banning him. But it's obvious that casinos don't like to loose, and if a gambler keeps winning they won't like him to be their customer anymore. If there's no evidence that he manipulates he's winnings, then the ban is not fair.
Do you think a religious leader should be involved in gambling? Do also accept his reason for engaging in gambling? Are these casinos right to ban him from gambling?
If the religion clearly prohibits gambling for any reason, it is still a sin. What became worse was when he became a religious leader who was popular in his environment.Even though the intention is good, the way to get it is not justified. If the community knows all that, how can he still be trusted to lead religious organizations in the community?
Regardless of its goodness in advancing the organization, I am sure that not everyone in the organization will agree with the methods used by the religious leadership.
The important point I am holding here is not that the Archbishop was involved in gambling, but that the casino immediately banned him from gambling on their premises after making a big win. His presence is considered a threat to their business, the conclusion is that the casino does not want them to lose because someone who has supernatural powers can make it easier for them to win every round played.
Generally, every religious leader is not allowed to be involved in gambling, this has been explained in the holy books of each religion. Regarding the reasons for gambling depending on each individual's perception, I cannot say whether his actions were right or wrong, the Archbishop had his own reasons why he dared to do this and he felt he could account for his actions to his God.
Duh, obviously, they don't want the idea that you're making money out of them and they're not getting a cent out of you. There's a reason why they call it, the house always wins, because they know that they have the right to keep you out when they know that you're bleeding them with money. This has been the theme with casino ever since, you know like those clever bullies that get away with what they do and those that stand up to them are the one's that face the consequence, that's how I see this one. Regarding the archbishop, I feel like it's a scandal because it sullies the name of their church, seeing a man of faith, trying their luck on slot machines, poker table, baccarat, and many other games is just too appalling and too shocking for everyone that will be a part of that congregation. Generally, every religious leader is not allowed to be involved in gambling, this has been explained in the holy books of each religion. Regarding the reasons for gambling depending on each individual's perception, I cannot say whether his actions were right or wrong, the Archbishop had his own reasons why he dared to do this and he felt he could account for his actions to his God.
If you observe closely you would notice that a lot of religions are against gambling activities and for a religious leader to go against the religious beliefs and rules means he's probably not fit enough to be the religious leader he claims to be. The fact is if you should view gambling from a lot of religious beliefs you would classify it as a wrong act. for the fact that mentioning a particular region may seem awkward, make it even ok to say that a majority of the most popular religions in the world are actually against gambling activities most of them because of its result on people who are unable to manage it and eventually turn out to be addicts.
Absolutely right, it's not easy to be a religious leader because you won't be able to do most things. However a religious leader can not gamble because he has to keep his reputation and also make those who is looking up to him to know that he's fit for the leadership. A good religion leader thinks on how to grow his people or personality, so if the young ones that's looking up to him for a good leadership gamble the religion leader is not to gamble with them, even if the leader needs entertainment there is another way to be entertained instead of him to gamble. Some religious are not totally against gamble but they don't want to gamble because they believe that they can't be lucky to win the amount of money they are looking for. And they also believes that gamble is a scam. 
But the acclaimed prophet claim that he receives winning games from God through vision. He further stated that with his numerous wins, he has been able to pay school fees and start businesses for members of his religious organization. While other religious leaders perceive his actions as sinful, he thinks his wins are an avenue to be a blessing to the needy.
For me, if what he acclaim is true of his utilization of his wins, he has my full support and come to think about it, his status as a man of God doesn't make him less a human, he's entitled to have fun in whatever way he wishes as far as he's neither going extreme nor hurting anyone in the process, finally its people's perception about gambling that is their problem, it doesn't make anyone less holy. Finally, its about the purpose, he's using the money to do charitable works and that's more humanly. Checking his claims of using it to help his members, if I'm God, I'll give him more visions of games because he's being a good shepherd. Those against him are the shepherds that extort from their members, but he went the extra mile to help them. That's love and more like living out what he peaches.
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Do you think a religious leader should be involved in gambling? Do also accept his reason for engaging in gambling? Are these casinos right to ban him from gambling?
I think the casinos are not respecting their terms and conditions because I've never seen multiple wins as a beach of any agreement in gambling, in fact I'll be very delighted to link up with this man, I have an important prayer point and I wish to request his intercession 
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I'm not a religious leader but I have received betting game from dream which I played and won, although I played small amount because I was skeptical about it. So, I will not doubt the possibility of spiritual people receiving gambling tips from from vision or whatever spiritual means. The only area I was wondering is the consistency and reliability of such pattern because I still remember receiving other games in the dream that failed. However, those that will work, there are usually signs that they will work and it requires mastery to understand and use the signs well.
Banning the spiritual man from gambling is a sheer waste of time because he can just use the wife or any of the relative or church member to place the game for him. He can equally sign up in international companies and become the latest millionaire in that country.
Banning the spiritual man from gambling is a sheer waste of time because he can just use the wife or any of the relative or church member to place the game for him. He can equally sign up in international companies and become the latest millionaire in that country.
If you observe closely you would notice that a lot of religions are against gambling activities and for a religious leader to go against the religious beliefs and rules means he's probably not fit enough to be the religious leader he claims to be. The fact is if you should view gambling from a lot of religious beliefs you would classify it as a wrong act. for the fact that mentioning a particular region may seem awkward, make it even ok to say that a majority of the most popular religions in the world are actually against gambling activities most of them because of its result on people who are unable to manage it and eventually turn out to be addicts.
This is what I used to call timidity,so uptill now,some religions still believe that gambling is a sin,how can what will turn you into a millionaire be a sin?in this kind of world where there is no good government who are ready to provide good job for its citizens.Some religions are really primitive and archaic to see sin in gambling.
If I am that Religious leaders,I won't mind,I will change religion for them,how can some one be imprisoned and conditioned just because of gambling,although I see all those things as individual constraints,because if the leader was bold enough,he wouldn't let his religion have a say in his way of making ends meet.
If I am that Religious leaders,I won't mind,I will change religion for them,how can some one be imprisoned and conditioned just because of gambling,although I see all those things as individual constraints,because if the leader was bold enough,he wouldn't let his religion have a say in his way of making ends meet.
A very interesting person, he has very unconventional views. In general, it is quite rare to find a religious leader who gambles. To be honest, I don’t even remember a single such case. But the most important thing is how does he manage to win? Of course, in gambling, winning can only be accidental. Is it possible to assume that this religious figure won by accident? I think yes. Do we have any reason to believe that his win was not accidental? In my opinion, we have very little information. It’s not even clear what games he played in the casino. Probably roulette? In addition, we do not know the statistics of his games. How many times did he play? Did he have any losses? Or was he just winning?
Still, we need to discuss about religion and gambling again?
I don't care with the title of any person whether he's a president, religious leader, successful investor, successful businessman, gambling addict counselor, or even government officer, most people loves money, that's why they want to gamble.
There's no such thing like it's legal to do bad thing to achieve good thing, if the religion say it's a sin, then it's a sin regardless what the reason is.
I don't care with the title of any person whether he's a president, religious leader, successful investor, successful businessman, gambling addict counselor, or even government officer, most people loves money, that's why they want to gamble.
There's no such thing like it's legal to do bad thing to achieve good thing, if the religion say it's a sin, then it's a sin regardless what the reason is.
Archbishop Emmanuel Mutumwa, who is the leader of Johanne Masowe eChishanu Apostolic Sect has been banned from betting in local casinos because of excess wins. His current win was about US$30,000 and these casino operators fear that they might go bankrupt if he continues gambling with them.
But the acclaimed prophet claim that he receives winning games from God through vision. He further stated that with his numerous wins, he has been able to pay school fees and start businesses for members of his religious organization. While other religious leaders perceive his actions as sinful, he thinks his wins are an avenue to be a blessing to the needy.
Do you think a religious leader should be involved in gambling? Do also accept his reason for engaging in gambling? Are these casinos right to ban him from gambling?
Reference
Bulawayo prophet gambles, wins US$30,000 banned from casino
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You know what? Thiscase is scary because you don't know if you will judge the religious leader or what, because he says that he gambles in order to help someone, or he shares his winnings because, according to him, the blessings came from God. But for me, even if the intention is good and in order to help, still the religious leader is gambling, and according to the Bible and most religions, gambling is a sin, so I think it is not a good thing to make God an excuse to gamble. It's easy to say that he is gambling in order to help someone, because based on his earnings from gambling, it's too much. I doubt that it will only go to helping other people. But again, its hard to judge the leader because if you do, you may be considered evil because you are judging the action of that leader. But I want to make my opinion that if he really wants to help someone, then do it not by using gambling, because gambling is evil, no matter how good your intention, you will do it using the money from gambling. But the acclaimed prophet claim that he receives winning games from God through vision. He further stated that with his numerous wins, he has been able to pay school fees and start businesses for members of his religious organization. While other religious leaders perceive his actions as sinful, he thinks his wins are an avenue to be a blessing to the needy.
Do you think a religious leader should be involved in gambling? Do also accept his reason for engaging in gambling? Are these casinos right to ban him from gambling?
Reference
Bulawayo prophet gambles, wins US$30,000 banned from casino
God’s Chosen Gambler?: Bulawayo Prophet Banned From Casinos for Winning Too Much
The important point I am holding here is not that the Archbishop was involved in gambling, but that the casino immediately banned him from gambling on their premises after making a big win. His presence is considered a threat to their business, the conclusion is that the casino does not want them to lose because someone who has supernatural powers can make it easier for them to win every round played.
Generally, every religious leader is not allowed to be involved in gambling, this has been explained in the holy books of each religion. Regarding the reasons for gambling depending on each individual's perception, I cannot say whether his actions were right or wrong, the Archbishop had his own reasons why he dared to do this and he felt he could account for his actions to his God.
Generally, every religious leader is not allowed to be involved in gambling, this has been explained in the holy books of each religion. Regarding the reasons for gambling depending on each individual's perception, I cannot say whether his actions were right or wrong, the Archbishop had his own reasons why he dared to do this and he felt he could account for his actions to his God.
I am surprised by this story. More so when it says:
I'm inclined to think that the religious man was cheating in some way, and if not, it only remains that he has been extraordinarily lucky. But that would be statistically very unlikely.
Then there's something else that doesn't make much sense:
The one who wins in casino games several times is not because he has some kind of power or something.
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several local casinos banned him
I'm inclined to think that the religious man was cheating in some way, and if not, it only remains that he has been extraordinarily lucky. But that would be statistically very unlikely.
Then there's something else that doesn't make much sense:
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A manager at a local casino, speaking anonymously, confirmed that betting establishments typically restrict or close accounts of those who win consistently.
The one who wins in casino games several times is not because he has some kind of power or something.
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