Topic: RENTO BOUNTY MANAGER - cheating Signature Bounty. - page 2. (Read 1631 times)

A lot of laughter in this topic 

@craslovell has destroyed its reputation by trying to destroy the reputation of others. World Champion! Applause!

Walls of text and bitching at other members has led me to put craslovell on ignore. Tag accurate and his behaviour isn’t really making me want to think about removing it

Oh stop crying.

Who is on my trust list & who isn't, who I add & who I don't has nothing to do with anything - especially one as outdated as that, it's much bigger now - it's not news.

I'm glad you've finally been rumbled by other members. Get over it. You didn't see me creating a cry baby thread when you asked dog to abuse the trust system out of spite, I just got on with my thing because I knew it was BS. Tagging scammers comes with the risk of getting tagged by said scammers - if everyone created a cry baby thread every time they got tagged by one the forum would be unreadable.

Keep on topic. If you want to post about that stupid thread then do it in that thread - the link is in my sig.

@blurryeyed

I just wanted to make sure you're as much of a psychopath as others claimed you were and you've just passed with flying colors.

I'm glad to hear you're interested in Helium. If you want to stay abreast of the most recent updates you'll need to join our Discord channel which can be found on page 1, post #2 of this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annhlm-helium-decentralized-services-digital-networks-main-net-live-5056752


Unless you're looking for the dated original thread here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annhlm-helium-1809278

There are a multitude of other resources on that thread which link off-site where you can find anything you need. Should keep your little motor buzzing for hours. I promise we've not yet made contact with the extra-terrestrials, and the NSA has indeed backed out of their exclusive information sharing deal with us.

I'm unsure why you posted a link to me saying "bounty payments have been sent for Helium" with several users confirming underneath. Unless you were trying to help confirm that I do follow through on my word? That was nice of you.  

Community Outreach Partner? So you're the expert on titles and you can tell me exactly what any given title defines. Short of obviously CEO and others which also sometimes have blurred lines.. I'm glad to know you can tell me exactly what my role is and exactly what I did or did not do as a human being based on a three word title. Can you tell me then perhaps, what a Community Outreach Partner II would do/be?  

And yet again, why do you hate Oleg so much. Did he personally harm you at some point? If anyone wants to know who this apparent "scourge of humanity" as he makes it seem is, read the Emercoin team page here and click on Oleg's links http://emercoin.com/en/team to form your own opinion.


You're only here to cause a stir. If you'd had some logical case against me other than personally hating me you'd have created your own "craslovell" is a scammer thread and actually posted concrete factual information without selectively choosing your snips and invading someone else's thread where I'm here in an attempt to be a postive force to help people who the rules have been changed on as well as clear my red marks. *inhales*

blurryeyed: "The only reason I posted here is because I browse the meta thread"    sure you do... that's really your explanation for following me here? and where might I have posted in meta about that?

AGAIN with your self incriminating trust screenshots. It's as if you want to get caught breaking the forum rules. Perhaps it's the only way you can achieve satisfaction in your life?

Why don't you just direct people to your entire multi-year thread of insanity instead of one of your screenshots so they get the whole story: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1064824

Just stop. Or don't. In my experience telling you to relax is the equivalent of, well, I don't know... Paint the most colorful picture of the opposite of relaxation, add a dash of insanity, and boom there's your answer. I've reported your bombardment of this thread and am somewhat astonished that nobody else told you to take it elsewhere by now.

Edit: And just for good measure let's show everyone here the link to the post directly above the one you snipped your screenshot from: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1064824

Wrong. You were Community Outreach Partner which is pretty much the same position you assume with all the other scams you get involved in - your mate Oleg Khovayko of Emercoin/Hashcoins/Polybius/Hashflare was an advisor - which is also the same position he assumes in all the scams he gets involved with too, apart from Emercoin where he's CTO. Stan Polozov, CMO of Emercoin was also involved - you guys seem to be some kind of close-knit scam group eh?


Wrong. I've not contacted you since you left Emercoin. The only reason I posted here is because I browse the meta thread often & noticed you had made a false statement about not being involved with scams, so I corrected you. I have also never posted in your latest self-moderated scam thread Helium either, which is yet another thread that you have abandoned since February:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5056752.120

Guess we can add that to your ever growing list of scams too.

You seem fixated with me being many people on many forums, it's like you've convinced yourself that it's true, but you conveniently forget that it was you that got me on that stupid shit list in the first place:



That right there is the very definition of forum trust abuse. The fact that you have gotten away with it doesn't bother me at all - I actually think it's funny. You were upset about being exposed so you literally asked your mate to smear me with false accusations, typical scammer behavior.

So, here you are, crying about a few tags for being involved with yet more scams when you've been responsible for getting others tagged for doing nothing but exposing your other scams. BooHoo.

Don't PM me again with cry baby excuses.

@blurryeyed

Yes of course, posting in an alternate forum with one of your accounts clearly somehow shows I'm involved in a scam.

I did help advise Hamster Marketplace for the first few months of their existence which was a recommendation by Stan P. from the Emercoin team. I never took a penny or the equivalent of a penny in any form of currency and left long before their ICO launched because of the following:

1) they didnt like what I had to say (which was ironically why I was there)

2) I didn't agree with their proposed methods of raising funds

3) there are legal boundaries being a US citizen and working with a team running and ICO in a foreign country

4) I was to be paid after the ICO based on the ICO results, and legal hurdles aside I didn't trust the guys so I split

When I saw their ICO launched with and magically had a few million invested at the time of launch I knew it was a wise choice to disassociate myself because based on the prior conference calls we had I knew there was no way they started with that sizable of an investment.

I've not kept up with progress since but since I figure your meds won't kick in for a while I'll do some reading on it now in between your desperate cries for attention.

I've never been associated with any other company you mentioned in any capacity whatsoever. You have a bare link to reddit thread where I am not mentioned and don't  exist? You can't find any piece of actual evidence I've done anything. I don't know how they do things in your country but the onus of proof is on the accuser not the accused.

I don't know how you can call Dogie a scammer. Dogie bas a solid reputation on this forum.

You have been following me and personally harassing me for years because I worked with the Emercoin guys. I literally had no association with you before that. You targeted me because I was publishing PR articles for them.

Now if you want to start a thread where you personally try to bash me for things I've never done go ahead and start it elsewhere.

Edit: I do see my face is on that bitcointalk thread. That's the problem when your picture is on the web, anyone can use it. We've already had people bombard the Emercoin Slack with fake accounts with my face on them asking users to send funds. I'll get it removed.

Are you sure? Seeing as they are the same people it's super easy, your face is splashed all over the webz with those guys & a few more as well - here's another:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ico-hamster-a-decentralized-platform-for-selling-unique-innovative-gadgets-3098967

You & a few more of the Emercoin/Hashcoins/Hashflare/Polybius crew involved in that ICO scam too, what was it, $4,384,281 you guys ran off with when you abandoned your thread?

https://icobench.com/ico/hamster-marketplace

It's common knowledge, every forum on the webz knows what you & your crew have been up to:

https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=8279.0
https://www.reddit.com/r/hashflare/comments/7l3rll/

Going from one scam to another doesn't make them go away, your history stays with with you where ever you go & eventually catches up with you.

As for me being bazzilions of other people - that's just funny - I added it to my sig so that everyone else can go & have a laugh at it too. It's funny how all the scammers I upset go there to post......

Edit: Like you just did....lol

I can tell you the original post I put on the forum for them did not include it. Check the archived link.

When I angrily entered their Telegram group the other day I recall seeing the KYC announcement within 2 to 3 days of the rules change they made. Would need to make a new acct to verify that because I've been banned from their telegram.

Edit: shasan beat me to it

Archive of their bounty post is https://archive.is/4FHEX#selection-615.0-1502.307
They have never posted regarding KYC before posting on this thread.

Did you advise of KYC before the bounty?

@blurryeyed

You should take all 25+ of your alt accounts and get off this thread since it has nothing to do with you. I don't know how working with Emercoin, a primary partner of Bitfury qualifies me as dishonest. I also haven't worked with the Emercoin team in years. They're still doing great things and coming out with new technologies other blockchains aren't even sniffing.

I never promoted any of the other aforementioned companies and I'm willing to bet you can't find a single shred of proof on the internet that I ever did.

The fact that you monitor my account waiting to pounce is disturbing. Seek the mental help you need and get your off topics posts off this thread.

Even if you wanted to make an on topic comment on this thread you'd first have to utilize basic reading skills which we know you lack at this point.

You realize you out yourself by putting one of your alts on your trust list right? I have one mark at this point from a default trust member. Your screenshot would indicate more because you have your own alts added to your list. How dumb can you be?

Just so everyone knows who you are: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1064824

Sure you have. You you used to promote the Hashcoins/Emercoin/Hashflare/Polybius scammers, then you promoted Yobit - promoting scams is what you specialize in:



I'm surprised your score isn't lower TBH:

As your project ended and you have announced a new rule you have to send a message to all the people so that they can know about the rule. You should create a pinned post on telegram update it on bounty thread and also post all of your social media sites and along with those you should send them a private message. Otherwise, I think 70%+ people will not be able to fill the KYC and later they will spam by saying give my payment! give my payment!

That wasn't the problem as far as I know. The problem was that I was getting fried here on Bitcointalk because someone on your team or using the account you're currently posting with edited the rules in post #9 on the bounty thread shortening the pay for users of the signature campaign.

It doesn't matter at this point as long as it's made right.

We never said we wouldn't pay out tokens! It was always mentioned in the telegram.

Thank you for doing the right thing. I'd hoped something like this wouldn't have happened from the beginning but as long as you pay everyone fairly I don't think this incident will damage the future of your token/project.

By decision of the company's head, the tokens will be distributed in accordance with the % posted in the bounty topic.

Due to the fact that the @craslovell user has removed the main post, the official post can be found here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48265215

According to the law that is valid in Malta, each bounty participant must pass the KYC procedure to receive tokens.

Link to KYC: http://bounty.rento-app.io/

The KYC form will be available until 30 May 2019.

The distribution of tokens will take place after closing the form to 30 June 2019.

I was trying to consolidate the post with the last long one. I'll stop posting here but only to reply or add relevant info.

I suppose I worded it poorly. The point is in fact not my feelings on the matter but the fact that TMAN's basing the negative rating off of me not paying people while blatantly overlooking the fact that I do not have the power to pay the people because I don't control the wallet/keys/etc and never did. This is the point I'm trying to convey. Was not the manager. Was not the fund holder. Was not a part of the team. Was the person to initially post the first two posts of the campaign one of which saying I am not associated.

I've taken your advice and will not participate in this type of setup ever again in the future. I also appreciate you and Avirunes removing your ratings after giving me a chance to explain the situation and attempt to right the ship.

I've not had any contact from their (Rento) team since what I posted earlier today. Sure a mod can confirm that I've not received any messages from the user ebitico. And as stated I've been booted from their Telegram group after posting my screenshot earlier in this thread calling out their admin(s).

The rating is threatened to be held and I'm essentially being asked to steal to try to save my name. Which I will not do and do not have the ability to do. TMAN is either asking me to steal, or simply not understanding my explanation. I don't know what else I need to say or show TMAN to get my point across but I'm willing to do whatever it takes short of stealing or attempting to steal from someone.

So if you're telling me the trust system here works on Default trust members feelings or suspicions and not facts then this is a broken system.

I just want to know what TMAN wants me to do to make it right and get this removed. I have no power to pay people, but I can try to help make the guilty parties follow through and pay.

He has every right to leave the rating where it currently is; your feelings are irrelevant. Actually, they might make things worse depending on who you are discussing such an issue with. I'd also appreciate it if you guys stopped unecessarily bumping this thread so often. Consolidate your input on the matter.

I was never the bounty manager as I specified multiple times above. Read akamit's post where he/she points this out.

I did the original OP, then the 9th comment on that bounty thread are the actual people running the bounty and controlling the funds.

I've run multiple bounties in the past where I was the actual manager including ones for Helium, Terracoin, and now NovaToken where I am/was a member of those teams and ensured every single participant was fairly paid.

Do you understand, I am NOT the manager of this campaign, never was, and never had control of the funds. The user eBitICO is the manager and has control of all funds. I cannot force another human being to send people funds like they promised. All I can do is ask the Rento team (user eBitICO) to follow through on their word.

Something wise to keep in mind for myself is 1) never even help someone post a bounty like this again and 2) if I were to post on behalf of another project again I will make damn sure I'm  the one controlling the bounty funds to make sure people don't get screwed.

You can see that I've  messaged the people controlling the funds this morning/afternoon and they've yet to reply to me . IF I had control of the funds I've had paid them out already but I never held a single one of these tokens and never intended to.

So when you ask to make sure people get paid I can't. I don't have the power. It simply isn't my money or tokens. I have zero power to help other than implore the people who do control the tokens to do the right thing. That is why I'm asking you to reconsider your trust rating of me. I didn't  do a bad job managing this because I never was the manager.

This entire thing went sideways in a 24 hour period and the actions of the Rento team, the people controlling the tokens, are why I got the negative trust. I literally didn't even have time to react or try to help. That is what I'm doing now, trying to help these participants by begging the Rento team to do the right thing.


@TMAN Please don't take the following as offensive towards yourself but this is what I feel you're doing to me right now:

To summarize, this is why you're keeping negative trust on me(paraphrasing):

TMAN: "Hey craslovell, i gave you negative trust because you posted a bounty thread for someone who lied and became a scammer in the past 48 hours but before that had no indication wrongdoing. you need to pay people out"

Craslovell: "I had no indication user eBitICO or any one of these Rento employees were scammers other than the past 48 hours when they changed the rules and this all surfaced. I don't control the funds to pay people out, they do. I was never the manager of this campaign. I just posted the first bounty post to get it started for them months ago because until that point they had done nothing wrong. Obviously now that the rules have been changed out of the blue by them I realize this was a bad idea."

TMAN: "It doesn't matter. You need to pay people out"

Craslovell: "But I don't control the keys or the funds. How can I pay people out? The only thing I can do is ask eBitICO and the other Rento team to pay these people out"

TMAN: "You aren't qualified to run bounties and you need to pay the users out and maybe I'll remove the negative trust"

Craslovell: "So someone I did a job for (posted a single thread) turned in to a criminal in the last 48 hours after showing no other indication of such malignant intent, and now you're holding me accountable to literally try to steal the funds from them to pay people or you won't remove the negative trust rating from me?"

TMAN: "Pay them or I won't remove the negative trust"

I LITERALLY have no power to pay these people. If I did i WOULD.


Also - Looks like mods have deleted several of my posts to clean the thread. I'll try to keep my info here in a more tidy fashion.