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your second mistake is that you decided to hide it from everyone. You write that you realized that at that time you were not aware of the legitimacy of your actions, but were afraid to tell the community about it honestly.

You are right. I was afraid of getting the negative tag.

For some reason, I’m sure that if you immediately created a topic in Meta and told that you sent merit to yourself by mistake, because you didn’t know the rules, you would receive loyalty from the community and no one would spoil your reputation.

Well, I never had this idea. I was a newbie and you may understand that I was not aware of using all the boards/sub boards. Even I have ranked up quickly with your help, I believe I am still learning from everyone.

And now, after you have been identified, the effect of your excuses will be almost zero, I think so.

Well, Even the effects remain zero. I should tell the truth so that you guys can judge me well.

A newbie does a mistake on his starting. After a week or so he realized he have done something wrong and immediately stopped. He has been identified after four months. He has not repeated the same thing during the time. That means that was a mistake and he wants to get rid of it. Still, if you believe it's cannot be forgiven and he doesn't deserve a 2nd chance. It's up to you mate  Smiley

I would PM lovesmayfamilis and discuss it. If she also thinks it's cannot be forgiven. I will give up.
sr. member
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Yes, you didn't break any rules here. But you violated the merit sharing rule with your alternate account. And this is not the only merit.
Therefore, I think you will not mind getting a negative rating? And let's not cry, because the rules must exist for everyone? Isn't it? I don't know where you can promote your accounts in this way, it's not fair. You are neither better nor worse than everyone, you do not have to be the most cunning.

Well, I don't know what should I say now. Because I know, I did a mistake and I regret that. I don't want to cry but, allow me to explain how I did that.

I opened my account in 2017. But, I was not active in this forum. Somehow, I returned in 2021 and saw a new system which is merit. Never knew what is that. I received my first merit only 4 months ago. After that, I have noticed that I have ranked up to Jr. member and I was surprised. I have created another account at that time. I didn't read the rules at that time and I wasn't aware of what I am doing. But, after 5-6 days, somehow I saw a discussion about merit abuse and I realized what I have done. I immediately stopped at the same time. If you check the logs, I have sent the last merit four months ago and all of them were in the same week.

I did something wrong and it's a part of human error. You can analyze my account and alt to see if I said anything wrong or lied. I apologize and regret what I have done.
legendary
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✿♥‿♥✿

Seems like someone is using a secondary account to have a second signature to earn off of and somehow switched up which account to use.


That's my alt N0nce.  Grin
Using multiple accounts is allowed.
I am not violating any rules there since the account is not participating in any campaigns or anything else.

Yes, you didn't break any rules here. But you violated the merit sharing rule with your alternate account. And this is not the only merit.
Therefore, I think you will not mind getting a negative rating? And let's not cry, because the rules must exist for everyone? Isn't it? I don't know where you can promote your accounts in this way, it's not fair. You are neither better nor worse than everyone, you do not have to be the most cunning.
My applause n0nce.

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Dic3L0v3r



https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5965/59653340.html
sr. member
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Seems like someone is using a secondary account to have a second signature to earn off of and somehow switched up which account to use.


That's my alt N0nce.  Grin
Using multiple accounts is allowed.
I am not violating any rules there since the account is not participating in any campaigns or anything else.
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In the distance of seconds, someone posted a vote in the community awards, deleted it and posted it again with a different account.
Seems like someone is using a secondary account to have a second signature to earn off of and somehow switched up which account to use.

https://ninjastic.space/post/59653284
https://ninjastic.space/post/59653296

Well, I am not sure if it's already ended. I was too much busy with other things.
here are my votes:

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legendary
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First post from the user Alicehodge and immediately started with plagiarism. To be more precise, combination of paraphrasing and text spinning from The Verge article, and all this to promote NFT marketplace development company, as they described themselves.

Archive: https://archive.ph/qBOml

There is nothing like a whirlwind of blockchain news to leave you thinking, about what's going on here. that is the feeling I have experienced while hearing about NFTs and NFT marketplace.
Non-fungible token or NFT means that is unique and can't be replaced with something else. for example, a cryptocurrency is fungible - trade one for another cryptocurrency, you will have exactly the same thing
“Non-fungible” more or less means that it’s unique and can’t be replaced with something else. For example, a bitcoin is fungible — trade one for another bitcoin, and you’ll have exactly the same thing
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Plagiarism
User: Enoppillip
Post link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59630035

(archive)
hello friend I love bitcoin and I want to share the reason why I love bitcoin:

1. I love that Bitcoin is the first use of blockchain technology, which will revolutionize so many systems that are fundamental to how we live. The way that information flows in certain industries is incredibly antiquated, and usually because the companies or entities that industry don't have incentive to involve. However blockchain can bring the change that's needed to allow that industry activity to better serve its customers. Prime examples are:

~ Financial payments
~ Voting
~ Medical record keeping
~ and helping reduce fraud in so many other industries



~original content
My love of bitcoin is twofold.

(1) I love that it's a new asset to invest in. The fact that bitcoin exists not through a company or country, but rather as a "natural resource" of sorts, is amazing. It's a great way to diversify assets and also participate in something that's so much bigger than each of us. The swings are wild but i've never felt uneasy about investing or hodling bitcoin.

(2) I love that Bitcoin is the first use of blockchain technology, which will revolutionize so many systems that are fundamental to how we live. The way that information flows in certain industries is incredibly antiquated, and usually because the companies or entities that industry don't have incentive to involve. However blockchain can bring the change that's needed to allow that industry activity to better serve its customers. Prime examples are:
  • Financial payments
  • Voting
  • Medical record keeping
  • and helping reduce fraud in so many other industries
[/glow]
legendary
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It seems that we have, but they are not official yet - it seems that one violation of the rules is no longer enough, something will happen after you report 4-5 posts from the same user.
I know there have been quite a lot of complaints of late from active reporters that users aren't getting banned after being reported for plagiarism, but do you think there is actually a new rule to it? Personally i do not think so, i think if there was, the forum would have been updated on the whole matter. Don't you think it could be that most of the mods who handle ban cases have prolly been busy with real life issues and all, maybe that is why they usually miss the first or second report and then act on it when so much of their attention has been drawn to the issue (mind you, i am just assuming that could be it).
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Do we have a new rules on plagiarism? I reported this user  few weeks ago and I just found out that he's still very much active on the forum
It seems that we have, but they are not official yet - it seems that one violation of the rules is no longer enough, something will happen after you report 4-5 posts from the same user. To make matters even more complicated, this member is active only in the Gambling board, and this board is even productive for those who promote their referral links.
Not bad if the new rules state that a user must commit three or more offenses before being banned, it's a welcome change, but we need to know what's going on on the secret board, so a mod should come out and address the public. Like you said, it's not official yet, and I don't believe we have an official one either.

I have reported it too.
Even after being caught, the OP never bothers to edit or provide proper citation; the copied wall of text is still there, and he's so confident he won't be banned. I've seen several cases where the OP tries to do the right thing after being caught, but this one is different
legendary
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Do we have a new rules on plagiarism? I reported this user  few weeks ago and I just found out that he's still very much active on the forum

It seems that we have, but they are not official yet - it seems that one violation of the rules is no longer enough, something will happen after you report 4-5 posts from the same user. To make matters even more complicated, this member is active only in the Gambling board, and this board is even productive for those who promote their referral links.
copper member
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฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.
Do we have a new rules on plagiarism? I reported this user  few weeks ago and I just found out that he's still very much active on the forum

Don't sweat it. The good thing is that you did your part in reporting. Either mods take their time to look through the reports, or they have softened a bit towards banning offenders of plagiarism. The problem is that no one really comes out to clear the air. The complaints regarding unhandled bans are becoming common. I reported some user recently, and it took some number of days before he was banned.

I have reported it too.
staff
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Do we have a new rules on plagiarism? I reported this user  few weeks ago and I just found out that he's still very much active on the forum

legendary
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Plagiarism/paraphrasing
User: BenjaminGlover
Post link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5390684
(archived)

As of today, Bitcoin's four-year moving average, which has been steadily climbing since the cryptocurrency's inception, has surpassed the previous 2017 high of $20,000. Historically, the price has never hit its four-year moving average, and then only for a few hours or days. Even during the massive COVID-19 black swan event, Bitcoin's price fell just marginally below its four-year moving average for only four days between March 12 and 16, providing a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to purchase low. Now that the four-year moving average has reached 20,000, we may be (relatively) certain that the 2017 peak is the ultimate bottom!

I hope this will be enough for the mods to finally respond to all reports against this member.

Banned
legendary
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The first line clearly states that the words that come after the : will be a quote.
Then, he should provide a link to the source AND
- use quotation marks
That would be the ideal situation. Unfortunately, not everyone does that, and even dumping a bunch of links under a 10-page post filled with copied text is enough to avoid a plagiarism ban.

he's one of the problematic nonsense troll account
In that case: report his posts for trolling. That's a violation of forum rules too:
3. No trolling.
I've seen people get away with a lot of trolling though. Freedom of expression prevails.
legendary
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The first line clearly states that the words that come after the : will be a quote.
Then, he should provide a link to the source AND
- use quotation marks
OR
- use Bitcointalk's internal quote function
OR
- screenshot the site where it is from

He's using the forum to post content, so he should read the rules and get familiar with how to post.
If he does not, he's clearly not interested to obey the rules as it's consistent with his bullshit trollposts and his off-topic shitpost gang.

And if he's not willing to learn for incidents in the future, plagiarism rules should be enforced.
Otherwise, it would not be fair for those who have been banned already when plagiarism was judged very strictly.


Sorry but I can only repeat it -> in this case it was unfavorable but there have been such cases several times.
Yes...
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The first line clearly states that the words that come after the : will be a quote.
Sorry but I can only repeat it -> in this case it was unfavorable but there have been such cases several times.
legendary
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If so: shouldn't he get a warning that Bitcointalk isn't like other internet forums when it comes to plagiarism?
The affected Account has already received at least 1 warning (maybe 2) if I remember correctly and it was pointed out to him to quote properly. He still continues, he doesn't care even if he's told to use proper quoting. I've created even a separate thread for it, he does not care.
I've translated that part recently to prevent confusion:

Translation of my post:



Therefore, important reminder:

Plagiarism is not allowed and is a strong offense leading to a ban if you do it. Chances to get your account back are very low.
So please be careful and don't plagiarize by paying attention to:

  • Forum rules:
    33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e]
    [e]33. This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.
  • When copy-pasting content from sources outside the forum (Twitter, News etc) you need to provide a link to the original source. In addition, you should use the "quote" Function to show that it's not your original content:
    Quote
  • If you find helpful information on Bitcointalk, it is sufficient if you simply quote this message directly, each message can be quoted with a function in the upper right corner (next to +Merit), as long as the thread is not closed. If it should be closed, copy the text, put it in quote and add the link to this message. You can get the link to the respective message by clicking on the title of the message (Re:...) and then copying it as url.
  • For translated contend, please ask the original poster for conset or at least add a link above the translated part, to show that it is not your original work.
  • Don't copy useless Shitposts for Signature Spam.
Posted here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/neue-ban-welle-gegen-plagiariser-5142306



It's always good to remember how this topic started: shitposters copying posts from other Bitcointalk users. I don't think that's the case here.
Yes, it's not the case here but in 2019 or 2020 we had a big ban wave, many high-ranked accounts were banned for much less. Some received a temp ban, some received a permanent ban. I remember 1 legendary member from our bord received a temp ban for posting twitter links from a project, which he managed in Bitcointalk, because he forget to post a link to the tweet.
There was much more, I think I don't need to tell more examples.
Even the most established accounts fought to get their permanent ban changed to a temp ban. We all know it, there were big contributors affected.

I was not a friend of banning these accounts permantently without even a single warning and so I'm still not a friend of permanent bans.
But we should stop lying to ourselves if we completely reverse our judgement now and don't enforce even some repeated offenders.
That's exactly the opposite of what we did in 2019/2020:
2019/2020: ban almost everything without warning, there are only exceptions for big contributors to get the ban changed into a temp ban.
2022: even almost nothing even if there wasn't used a single thing of it: no provided link, no "quote" function, no use of italic text and no quotation marks.

At least we should issue a warning once and after it: first temp ban, if the account commits an offense again, permanent ban. We need consistency.
Otherwise, plagiarizers will continue because it's affordable and the can get away with it.



I hate to see contributing users banned just because they didn't know plagiarism is punished much harder than scamming.
I totally agree here! 100%
But nothing is relevant to the affected account.
1. The account is contributing little to nothing to the forum. Instead, he's one of the problematic nonsense troll account, abusing the platform for his own agenda.
Yes, he's not a paid account from signatures but there's a big difference between Altcoin Shitposters and local troll accounts: while people posting on the Altcoin board are almost always paid, that's a bit different for local sections. Some local sections are full of troll accounts using the forum for their own selfish interests. We know it from Meta sometimes (Troll accounts), from the turkish section or the russian section, where a large number of troll accounts is active and sometimes moves to Meta.
Maybe you've read from KingScorpio, he's also a trolll account from the German section, not paid (the signature he's wearing is his own retarded and failed scam project) but he still posts so much everyday, it's insane. No need to be paid, some of these accounts are completely lunatic. KingScorpio is by far the worst troll account but that doesn't mean there's no one else in the German section. There are several accounts involved in that BS, even some repeated offenders of Plagiarism like thandie. They are always available to produce shitloads of nonsense. No need to be a paid account. That's also why a sigban doesn't affect them.
Such accounts are not beneficial for the forum. They don't care that rules exist, they are only a few but they are destroying Bitcointalk from inside if we don't act. Recently, a contributor from the German board said he'll leave Bitcointalk it if the trolling continues and I have to admit he's right. There is a big problem in the German section and we have to stop acting like it doesn't exist.
2. He was well aware that improper quoting is a bannable offense, he was reminded to make proper quotes, he still doesn't care. He knows he can do it again because he will get again away with it.



It's a blatant 1:1 copy paste, the plagiarism post doesn't provide a link, doesn't use a "quote" function, doesn't use italic text and doesn't even use quotation marks...

It's an obvious copy/paste, but not a case of plagiarism for me.
He gives the name of the author (Wolfgang Kubicki), he does not appropriate the content.
I rarely deal with plagiarism, but if I had this case, I would not have asked for a ban. And I see that Mole added the source and put quotes, I would probably have done the same.

I had decided as you can see in the history for the variant that Halab would also have chosen.
It was an incorrect posting but Beobachter_90 never pretended that it was his own text and therefore it is not a real plagiarism.
In such cases you have to differentiate and act with sensitivity.

We "acted with sensitivity" already multiple times, told some of them to avoid plagiarism and quote properly. I've even created a separate thread in German regarding proper quoting, so nobody can say they can't read it because it's in English.  Cheesy
They still commit plagiarism, they still don't care at all.
I'm totally ok with plagiarism being not punished after 1 offense but nobody can say after pointing it out, a second time is acceptable. If we don't enforce it, it's 100% clown show.

It's a slap in the face for all those accounts which were banned for much less and without warning in 2019 / 2020. You know these stories.
If we are consistent, we need to un-ban all those accounts from 2019/2020 because that is currently what's going on at least in the German section where some accounts have recently plagiarized multiple times, were multiple times asked to quote properly because plagiarism is a bannable offense and these accounts STILL DON'T CARE.

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It's a blatant 1:1 copy paste, the plagiarism post doesn't provide a link, doesn't use a "quote" function, doesn't use italic text and doesn't even use quotation marks...

It's an obvious copy/paste, but not a case of plagiarism for me.
He gives the name of the author (Wolfgang Kubicki), he does not appropriate the content.
I rarely deal with plagiarism, but if I had this case, I would not have asked for a ban. And I see that Mole added the source and put quotes, I would probably have done the same.

I had decided as you can see in the history for the variant that Halab would also have chosen.
It was an incorrect posting but Beobachter_90 never pretended that it was his own text and therefore it is not a real plagiarism.
In such cases you have to differentiate and act with sensitivity.
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It's a blatant 1:1 copy paste, the plagiarism post doesn't provide a link, doesn't use a "quote" function, doesn't use italic text and doesn't even use quotation marks...

It's an obvious copy/paste, but not a case of plagiarism for me.
He gives the name of the author (Wolfgang Kubicki), he does not appropriate the content.
I rarely deal with plagiarism, but if I had this case, I would not have asked for a ban. And I see that Mole added the source and put quotes, I would probably have done the same.
legendary
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Please ban for Plagiarism

Account: Beobachter_90
Post link (Archive): https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5955/59558434.html (Plagiarism Post)
This user doesn't have a paid signature, so he's not spamming to earn money. I can't really read it, but could it be he copied the text because it's interesting and fits the discussion? If so: shouldn't he get a warning that Bitcointalk isn't like other internet forums when it comes to plagiarism?

It's always good to remember how this topic started: shitposters copying posts from other Bitcointalk users. I don't think that's the case here. I hate to see contributing users banned just because they didn't know plagiarism is punished much harder than scamming.
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