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Quote from: Poker Player on May 16, 2022, 02:45:53 AM

what moderators are going to do and, again, I think theymos or some moderator should specify if the criteria has changed and what is the current criteria now.

I have already PM'ed mprep, Halab, Cyrus and hilariousandco and requested them to respond to this thread if possible. I also apologized for what I have done in my newbie days before getting banned. mprep replied to me and he forwarded the message to theymos to respond to this thread. Can we please stop now and wait for them?

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on May 16, 2022, 03:02:48 AM

My friend, please do not teach me and advise me to grow up.

Your behavior doesn't look like you have grown enough. It was very childish when you called LoyceV my lawyer while I never meet him and I don't know who is he. I have never traded with him. You are trying to act like a smart enough who didn't get a knock from me so you feel jealous of LoyceV.

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Quote from: naim027 on May 16, 2022, 02:33:39 AM

And that's why you also want to cut other foxes' tails. Right?

My friend, please do not teach me and advise me to grow up. I want everything to be fair. You do not know what a person feels when he sees a message in the morning about the ban on the forum, at a time when he was sincerely attracted to him. Moreover, you did not communicate with those people who left without proving your appeal.

Therefore, I call for justice. Yes, having survived my mistake, I will look for plagiarism from others. Why not?

But the person in my position draws very poor conclusions about justice after witnessing such a clear lie.

It remains only to feel sorry for the believers, because they are regularly deceived by people, exposing themselves as complete idiots.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on May 16, 2022, 02:23:15 AM

Quote from: naim027 on March 29, 2021, 04:28:38 PM

Well, I was Wondering Why There is No Dedicated Page For Forum Rules. And Somehow I violated One Of The Rules And I got a Message With the link to this Topic. it's helpful. Thank you Very Much.

Does March start after November on your calendar?

To be honest, that doesn't look good to me, but what is relevant here is what moderators are going to do and, again, I think theymos or some moderator should specify if the criteria has changed and what is the current criteria now.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on May 16, 2022, 02:23:15 AM

-edited out-

That was my 12th post in this forum. I don't even remember when I posted this and if I read the full rules. It's not hard to forget what you have posted two years ago.

After I posted this one, I didn't come back to this forum for another six months (according to the date of the next post). I become active here somewhere in October 2021 and I got my first merit on the 16th of October 2021.

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on May 16, 2022, 02:23:15 AM

I was also banned for three words when I was a rookie. But they discovered copy-paste when I was already a senior member. Don't you see the difference?

And that's why you also want to cut other foxes' tails. Right?

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Quote from: naim027 on May 16, 2022, 02:06:45 AM

I used to trust your judgments. But, Not anymore. Not because you support the plagiarism report. I believe it's accurate. But, calling someone a liar selectively without any evidence is not respectable from a DT1 member.

If you want to answer my questions, don't skip a single question. I want every question answered.

Good. You have to be so stupid and stupid that, being in the subject according to the rules, you don’t bother to read them.
Are you still claiming you're not a liar?

Quote from: naim027 on May 14, 2022, 07:24:10 AM

Have you checked my response carefully? I guess no, I only know the rules after November 19th, 2021 because, on that

Quote from: naim027 on March 29, 2021, 04:28:38 PM

Well, I was Wondering Why There is No Dedicated Page For Forum Rules. And Somehow I violated One Of The Rules And I got a Message With the link to this Topic. it's helpful. Thank you Very Much.

Does March start after November on your calendar?

Quote from: naim027 on May 16, 2022, 02:06:45 AM

If I were getting banned at that time, I would not say much.

When, idiot? Can't you see what people are writing? I was also banned for three words when I was a rookie. But they discovered copy-paste when I was already a senior member. Don't you see the difference?

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on May 16, 2022, 01:43:59 AM

I have been reading your posts and all you were trying to achieve here was merit

I believe everyone cares about merit. If you don't care about it, it's your own opinion.

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on May 16, 2022, 01:43:59 AM

By your logic, all beginners should not be affected by the plagiarism rule. Or are you special?

No, I am not special. I don't think all beginners should not be affected. The case is a bit different here. If I were getting banned at that time, I would not say much.

A newbie did plagiarism in his newbie days after a few members warned him, he edited his posts and started following the rules. But, somehow he missed editing just 1 post.

I remember a fox that lost its tail on a trap and he wanted to cut every other fox's tail.

I used to trust your judgments. But, Not anymore. Not because you support the plagiarism report. I believe it's accurate. But, calling someone a liar selectively without any evidence is not respectable from a DT1 member. I have nothing to do if I got banned by forum rules. But, it's getting personal right now. You guys attacking me personally like hungry wolves.

If you want to answer my questions, don't skip a single question. I want every question answered.

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Quote from: naim027 on May 16, 2022, 12:35:26 AM

You did a good job reporting the Plagiarism here and reporting to moderators. Now, please shut the fu*k off and let them decide.

By your logic, all beginners should not be affected by the plagiarism rule. Or are you special? Open your eyes and check how much plagiarism is banned daily, and it all comes from newbies. Your excuses about your ignorance of the transfer of merit to your account or the prohibition of copying are the vilest lies. I have been reading your posts and all you were trying to achieve here was merit, as you have clearly begged for it from many.

Now you knock LoyceV on every occasion, seeing him as your lawyer, and he naturally takes your side, thereby disappointing some and proving double standards.

But what I wrote earlier in your review that you are an incorrigible liar comes out as more proof of your petty soul.

Quote from: Poker Player on May 16, 2022, 12:54:31 AM

There is a parallel between the case of lovesmayfamilis and naim027.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59430082

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naim027 never ceases to amaze me, and not in a pleasant way, for things he did in the past lately. I'm not going to go into what has to happen with my "alt account", what I do think would be interesting is that some moderator would clarify what the rule of thumb is in cases like this. If someone who plagiarized in the past but has stopped doing so, apparently because he was warned about it, is he allowed to continue in the forum as if nothing happened or will some punishment be taken?

I didn't know what Lucius said:

Quote from: Lucius on May 15, 2022, 08:08:09 AM

... you might be unpleasantly surprised at how much plagiarism is no longer punished as severely as before.

There is a parallel between the case of lovesmayfamilis and naim027. One would not understand why one was punished and the other is not, unless the explanation is that the rules have changed, perhaps because the forum gains more if someone who plagiarized in the past and stopped doing so but contributes positively today is allowed to continue his activity instead of being punished.

But it seems to me that we are not going to have an explicit answer on this, on what is the criterion to be applied, although it would be ideal.

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Quote from: Solosanz on May 16, 2022, 12:02:37 AM

Alright I won't demand a permanent ban if it's to harsh, but I ask minimum of 2-5 years signature ban since the user didn't contribute anything.

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Quote from: LoyceV on May 14, 2022, 07:44:25 AM

Why should someone get banned if he's no longer breaking the forum rules because he fixed his mistake by himself?
Lauda did the same and got away with it.
depends on your goal: is your goal to get a user banned, or is your goal to make the forum better?

My goal is to make the forum better by permanently banned this user.

Well, My common sense asked me not to reply to this topic anymore. But, Those bolded phrases show how badly you want to get me banned for plagiarism which I did in my newbie days without knowing the rules. You look too determined to get me banned at any cost. Maybe just because I have rejected your non-collateral loan request and you came back with an alt? Since I don't have proof, I won't say I am 100% correct.

Quote from: Solosanz on May 16, 2022, 12:02:37 AM

If anyone think total earned merits is the factor of contribution in this forum, then you're not completely correct. First look on which post and where he got those merits.

I don't know why you think I didn't contribute to the forum. I won't say I have contributed a lot. But, I don't believe you have to argue if I contributed or not. That's an entirely different matter. If you have doubts about my contributions, create a separate thread. I see a lot of members, Full Members, and Sr. members with huge post counts and activity counts. But, they were unable to rank up due to lacking the merits. So, Of course, merits matter.

You did a good job reporting the Plagiarism here and reporting to moderators. Now, please shut the fu*k off and let them decide.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on May 15, 2022, 10:59:03 PM

I also believe that if the rules exist, they should apply to everyone equally.

It would be fair if users were at least given a ban on signatures for a certain period.

The rules is still exist as there's no new announcement of update rules. If an user can't be banned because of old post, then how lovesmayfamilis case got banned on 2019 while he plagiarize on 2018? My report on 2022 and the user plagiarize on 2021.

Alright I won't demand a permanent ban if it's to harsh, but I ask minimum of 2-5 years signature ban since the user didn't contribute anything.

If anyone think total earned merits is the factor of contribution in this forum, then you're not completely correct. First look on which post and where he got those merits.

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Quote from: Solosanz on May 15, 2022, 08:57:13 AM

Did the moderator mark my plagiarism report as bad?

I also reported the plagiarism you found the same day. But unfortunately, it remains unhandled.

And yes, thank you for your support. I also believe that if the rules exist, they should apply to everyone equally. My postponement of a year of the signature ban and two months of total post ban taught me a good lesson.

It would be fair if users were at least given a ban on signatures for a certain period. Otherwise, one can only regret how many good users left the forum forever, for more minor mistakes. I've seen these copies still in doubt.

The tvplus006 case remained unproven, although the man was accused of plagiarism and received a two-month ban.

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Quote from: Lucius on May 15, 2022, 08:08:09 AM

I don't want to get into the specific case of the plagiarism report at all, but if you continue to hunt down plagiarists, you might be unpleasantly surprised at how much plagiarism is no longer punished as severely as before. My last case stands unhandled for 10+ days,

You're correct, I did some research and found out lovesmayfamilis ever got temporary banned due to plagiarism. Honestly what he copied isn't really a matter because he just copy pasting a common sense, not like in my case where the user trying become a smart person for merit fishing. I felt bad for lovesmayfamilis as one of active scam buster and helping so many people, but he still got banned by doing a tiny mistake. I'm also surprised my report percentage reduced from 100% to 50%, since I didn't report so much post, I still can't view my report (few user said it need at least 300 good posts). Did the moderator mark my plagiarism report as bad?

Quote from: hilariousandco on May 11, 2019, 05:42:32 AM

Copy and pasting it seems:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountycryptosolartech-4000000-tokens-soft-cap-reached-3544255

Quote from: ?? on ??

In the spreadsheet, I see that the company lasted 8 weeks and ended on June 29, 2018
Tell me please, the bounty company has really ended, and when will our bets be calculated for the work done?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41547451

Quote from: lider777 on July 05, 2018, 02:02:12 AM

In the spreadsheet, I see that the company lasted 8 weeks and ended on June 29, 2018
Tell me please, the bounty company has really ended, and when will our bets be calculated for the work done?

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Quote from: Solosanz on May 14, 2022, 08:19:51 AM

I did report to moderator, but I also report to this thread in case the moderators missed or wanted the full report.
My goal is to make the forum better by permanently banned this user.

I don't want to get into the specific case of the plagiarism report at all, but if you continue to hunt down plagiarists, you might be unpleasantly surprised at how much plagiarism is no longer punished as severely as before. My last case stands unhandled for 10+ days, and the case I report before would probably have stayed in that status if I hadn't opened a new thread and asked what was going on.

It seems that working for the common good has really turned into a waste of time, and instead of reporting plagiarists, it would be easier to send them a private message and warn them to add a link - because then it is no longer plagiarism.

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Quote from: LoyceV on May 14, 2022, 07:44:25 AM

Why should someone get banned if he's no longer breaking the forum rules because he fixed his mistake by himself?
Lauda did the same and got away with it.

Lauda and this user are completely different case, Lauda really gave major contribution in this forum, while this user just create merit fishing post of useless stats and shitposting in WO thread.

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Well, it depends: users who use a notification bot will likely notice your post here. If you don't want that, you should use Report to moderator instead.
But whether or not it's useless depends on your goal: is your goal to get a user banned, or is your goal to make the forum better? Even if naim027 doesn't get banned, I'm pretty sure he won't do it again. I call that a win.

I did report to moderator, but I also report to this thread in case the moderators missed or wanted the full report.
My goal is to make the forum better by permanently banned this user.

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Quote from: Solosanz on May 14, 2022, 07:17:01 AM

Do you mean if someone edited his post and put the original source after someone exposed him, he's already free from permanent banned?

Why should someone get banned if he's no longer breaking the forum rules because he fixed his mistake by himself?
Lauda did the same and got away with it.

Quote from: naim027 on May 14, 2022, 07:24:10 AM

LoyceV asked me to edit my posts and add the source link to my posts. I have edited my posts but somehow I missed this one.

I actually remember that. I checked, and noticed you didn't fix it, despite saying you did. I didn't want to babysit Tongue

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Quote from: Solosanz on May 14, 2022, 07:17:01 AM

Quote from: LoyceV on May 14, 2022, 06:21:23 AM

I've said it before: plagiarism is "normal" on the internet, and Bitcointalk is the rare exception. Barely anyone ever reads the rules when they first join a forum, so plagiarism is likely to happen.

Since naim027 edited his plagiarism before being (signature) banned, I don't expect him to be banned now. It might be a good moment for him to go over all his old posts before someone else does.

I have mentioned previous of his plagiarized post, he always put original sources below of his posts. If he really don't know plagiarism is really fatal rule to broke in this forum, he wouldn't added any sources of his posts.

Do you mean if someone edited his post and put the original source after someone exposed him, he's already free from permanent banned? Don't get me wrong, that's just tell me reporting plagiarism in this thread is completely useless since it's save the plagiarizer.

Have you checked my response carefully? I guess no, I only know the rules after November 19th, 2021 because, on that day, LoyceV and psychodad informed me that this is not allowed. LoyceV asked me to edit my posts and add the source link to my posts. I have edited my posts but somehow I missed this one. The post you referring to is a day before that which is 18th November 2021. Why do you think I would take such a risk if I knew that I can get banned for this? Allow me to quote the response from LoyceV and psycodad which was made on 19th November 2021.

Quote from: psycodad on November 19, 2021, 05:06:36 AM

Quote from: naim027 on November 19, 2021, 04:54:23 AM

For bitcoin, upside momentum continues to slow on the daily price chart, suggesting continued profit-taking among buyers. And the relative strength index (RSI) on the daily chart is not yet oversold, which provides scope for further downside in BTC over the short-term.

The 100-day moving average, currently around $53,000, could attract buyers similar to late September, which preceded a price recovery.

For now, intraday charts appear deeply oversold. This means buyers could defend immediate support around $56,000, albeit briefly given strong overhead resistance on the charts.

Please be careful posting full identical sentences from i.e. Coindesk as if they were your own statements, it's called plagiarism and highly frowned upon around here:

LoyceV also mentioned me at that time:

Quote from: LoyceV on November 19, 2021, 05:32:26 AM

Quote from: naim027 on November 19, 2021, 05:27:28 AM

I am not original author at Coindesk. Is it forbidden to share the news here?

Plagiarism will get you banned. You should edit your posts and add the source (link) to all of them.
Even if you don't get banned for plagiarism now, it can happen years later.

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Quote from: LoyceV on May 14, 2022, 06:21:23 AM

I've said it before: plagiarism is "normal" on the internet, and Bitcointalk is the rare exception. Barely anyone ever reads the rules when they first join a forum, so plagiarism is likely to happen.

Since naim027 edited his plagiarism before being (signature) banned, I don't expect him to be banned now. It might be a good moment for him to go over all his old posts before someone else does.

I have mentioned previous of his plagiarized post, he always put original sources below of his posts. If he really don't know plagiarism is really fatal rule to broke in this forum, he wouldn't added any sources of his posts.

Do you mean if someone edited his post and put the original source after someone exposed him, he's already free from permanent banned? Don't get me wrong, that's just tell me reporting plagiarism in this thread is completely useless since it's save the plagiarizer.

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Quote from: naim027 on May 13, 2022, 03:57:05 AM

Well, I don't have an explanation on this matter. But, As far as I remember, Not only this, but I did this a few more times without knowing the rules (As I have already said that those few weeks were my newbie days).

I was asked to respond to naim027's plagiarism, so I'll just add my 2 sats

I've said it before: plagiarism is "normal" on the internet, and Bitcointalk is the rare exception. Barely anyone ever reads the rules when they first join a forum, so plagiarism is likely to happen. In naim027's case, his account was already 4 years old when this plagiarism happened, but he barely posted during those first years.
I always assumed Bitcointalk is so strict because of people spamming for their post count. I can't really tell if that was the case here, but some Newbies post in WO to earn Merit so it could have been the case.

Since naim027 edited his plagiarism before being (signature) banned, I don't expect him to be banned now. It might be a good moment for him to go over all his old posts before someone else does.

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Quote from: naim027 on May 13, 2022, 03:57:05 AM

Well, I don't have an explanation on this matter. But, As far as I remember, Not only this, but I did this a few more times without knowing the rules (As I have already said that those few weeks were my newbie days). Later someone from the WO thread warned me about this that I cannot share an article (or a part of article) if I am not an original author (I am searching for that post). Later I edited the post and added the source link. Maybe this is one of these and I haven't edited this one. So this is my responsibility.

This is your older post without edited in WO thread, as I can see you are aware of providing original source.

Quote from: Dic3L0v3r on March 26, 2022, 02:39:14 AM

Well, I am a newbie. But, In my opinion. This thread doesn't suit off-topic. Not so many people will see this thread. Since this was a Scam attempt, You can move this thread to Scam Accusations board. A lot of people often visit scam accusations boards to discover.

I also like your alt self admitting as a newbie while the main account e.g. naim027 already know how this forum work.

I think it is enough to judge whether you are liar or honest person.

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Quote from: Solosanz on May 13, 2022, 03:36:05 AM

He was exchanges some merits with his alts (merit abuse) and got red tag by lovesmayfamilis, but he demanded second chance to revise the red tag to neutral. Then lovesmayfamilis change it. But we're already know he is also break the forum rules by plagiarize other people article, I hope moderator will give a well deserved punishment to him.

Well, I don't have an explanation on this matter. But, As far as I remember, Not only this, but I did this a few more times without knowing the rules (As I have already said that those few weeks were my newbie days). Later someone from the WO thread warned me about this that I cannot share an article (or a part of the article) if I am not an original author (I am searching for that post). Later I edited the post and added the source link. Maybe this is one of these and I haven't edited this one (Added source now). So this is my responsibility. Good catch BTW.

Edit: I just found that post that psycodad and LoyceV was guiding me to not post articles/part of articles without source:

Quote from: psycodad on November 19, 2021, 05:06:36 AM

Quote from: naim027 on November 19, 2021, 04:54:23 AM

For bitcoin, upside momentum continues to slow on the daily price chart, suggesting continued profit-taking among buyers. And the relative strength index (RSI) on the daily chart is not yet oversold, which provides scope for further downside in BTC over the short-term.

The 100-day moving average, currently around $53,000, could attract buyers similar to late September, which preceded a price recovery.

For now, intraday charts appear deeply oversold. This means buyers could defend immediate support around $56,000, albeit briefly given strong overhead resistance on the charts.

Please be careful posting full identical sentences from i.e. Coindesk as if they were your own statements, it's called plagiarism and highly frowned upon around here:

LoyceV also mentioned me at that time:

Quote from: LoyceV on November 19, 2021, 05:32:26 AM

Quote from: naim027 on November 19, 2021, 05:27:28 AM

I am not original author at Coindesk. Is it forbidden to share the news here?

Plagiarism will get you banned. You should edit your posts and add the source (link) to all of them.
Even if you don't get banned for plagiarism now, it can happen years later.

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