Topic: Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed - page 57. (Read 119161 times)

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I hope it gets overturned completely. If I post:

Like someone once said, bitcoins have no dividend or potential future dividend, therefore not like a stock.

...I don't think this deserves even a signature ban. It's clearly stated that the words are not mine, therefore not plagiarism, even if not quoted/attributed/etc. In Mpamaegbu's case it's not so obvious but still he did imply that the text is not his.


As far as I can tell, yes.

This previously worked. There is all the evidence of plagiarism. And this is the third case. If this is not a violation, then you can simply cancel all plagiarism rules.


One more case. This user has it second.

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5783/57834326.html


https://digesttime.com/2021/09/01/el-salvador-assembly-approves-distribution-of-30-in-bitcoin-to-every-citizen/

@lovesmayfamilis, you are surprised that this user has not been punished for plagiarism? I am not at all surprised, because it is obvious that there are double criteria when deciding on this. If @rinkidas14 just adds a source link in his post, maybe that would be enough?

What does LoyceV think about whether we should warn that user before he gets perma-ban? This post is also not plagiarism in the opinion of global mods/admins and some distinguished forum members.

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5749/57497839.html



https://www.newsbtc.com/analysis/btc/bitcoin-bottom-top-december-2021/

Thanks Frengki.

I'm contacting him now. Will keep you guys posted on any updates.

Telegram is probably the fastest way, I see telegram is active.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-resumedoutofthecloud-file-and-data-sharing-ico-with-working-product-5085373

It's just the red that was copied and this is the only instance of plagiarism?

Same @Smartvirus, it's a shame that all of his efforts just went to waste because of one oversight. There is a huge difference between someone that plagiarizes on purpose vs one that doesn't.

I feel just the same way @Ratimov, that we may have lost permanently just another active Hero Member and forum contributor. I have been watching fron the sideline as to how the case was being handled and it broke my heart that, it turned out on a permanent ban over a 2years elusive mistake as he claims. In many ways it might be it as he stated in his defence, being that, the thread never continued though, it doesn't completely erased the fact that, a forum rule was faulted once, perhaps there are more but a continued ignorance of the rule would have been the better bone of contentment.

I recall that not quite long ago, he celebrated his Hero Membership, how long it took and some persons really did took a liking to him, I do too and the knowledge that, he might not be back is really something to take in.

Perhaps he behaved in some unlikely way and maybe not the best way to have contained the situation but, if I were to take a position in his shoes and think as he might have taught, I feel, he was waiting on someone to have suggested that for a solution to him. Perhaps, he didn't want to act too smart and the edited post raises another pointy finger at him or something, I really don't know but I'm sure his got his reasons which might be wrong or right.

It's a good thing to have noted this as, my relations with this user as someone in the forum and have sent quite a few pm's doesn't portray him to be someone that would want to steal someone else's glory. Its just sad that this slipped him under whatevercircumstancesat the time, that he had this skeleton in the closet and never knew but, it took his new campaign Best_Change to dig it up.

So sorry Hero Member Mpamaegbu, we do hope you get to appeal, truthfully stating the scenario and that the forum listen. Until then, your wished well!

Nice catch, seems like almost everyone ignored this little detail, in which he says that he took it from someplace else. If he decides to appeal the ban, might even help to at least change permaban into signature ban (which I would like to see more often here), if not overturning it completely.


Looking at differences between those two bitcointalk topics, the one made by Mpamaegbu lacks the part about Philippines, which is not included in either Steemit article or TG post. If he was blindly plagiarizing bitcointalk post, chances are he would copy that Philippines part too, which he didn't so i think that source is that Steemit article.

I also use loyce.club. For a while, bpip.org did not display users that were banned. But at LoyceV everything works like clockwork. If you don't see bpip.org, but you see that the user has been inactive for a while, just check there too.

https://loyce.club/bans/usernames.txt

As an example: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55805186
https://bpip.org/Profile?id=1298523

Using bpip.org it's the easiest to see that, here's the @Mpamaegbu account on bpip https://bpip.org/Profile?id=940323 you can see there's a sign of Archived under his profile, mean he has been banned.

Another way you can see on modlog https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php only for recent user (I don't know the exact time) and banned user can't wear a signature.

Hey guys, how do you see if someone has been banned?

I've searched the subject and in Banned Users they say it can't be seen (although it is a 6 year-old post). Also, in another thread, LoyceV says: "Unlike Mods, users can't see if someone is banned."

Any way to see it if you are not a mod? Timelord2067 and Bitcoin_Arena have shown us some people are banned and I don't think they are mods.

Yikes--I'm pretty sure he'll be pretty upset about that if he isn't already. 

He'd been a member since before the merit system, so I don't think he started with zero merits.  Nevertheless, he was a pretty familiar face on the forum (at least to me), and it sucks that it turned out this way.  I don't know if more plagiarism was found or if the mods just didn't accept his reason, but we'll see if he appeals it.

My guess is that he forgot about it once the thread was locked or thought it wouldn't be necessary because it got locked.  And yes, that's exactly what he should have done once his mistake was realized--and here I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt in saying that it was a mistake.  I'm not a mind reader, so who knows.

This is way overboard IMO. The post in question seems to be referencing the copied text as "smuggled out snippet below" so arguably Mpamaegbu was not trying to claim authorship of that text.

Well he's been banned 

Quite sad to lose a Hero member account under such circumstances. Damn ! It's hard to get a hero member rank from 0 merits, if you ask me. The pain must be unbearable.

I am not sure if he will try to appeal, but man, this is a shocker. I don't know why he didn't bother adding the link to the said post, even after the discovery that he mistakenly missed it. I mean, it was a mistake to forget the link,  right? Why not added it if you realized the mistake?

Mpamaegbu will have to answer that question, though I'm not sure it really matters at this point.  Whether he says he forgot to reference the steemit article or one of those bitcointalk posts, the result (whatever it may be) is going to be the same.

I tend to believe Mpamaegbu's story about forgetting to cite the source, simply because I'm familiar with him as a member and I know damn well that he knows how seriously plagiarism is taken on the forum, and I seriously doubt he'd take a chance that someone wouldn't discover the source of that post.  I've chatted with him via PMs, and he's always been trying to do the right thing as far as I can tell. 

This is one of those situations that gets kinda sticky for me.  I can voice my personal opinion about what happened, but I definitely don't want to get egg splattered all over my face if I vouch for him and later it turns out that there have been multiple cases of plagiarism.  I don't think that's going to be true, and I hope someone can verify that.

I have found another source.
A Telegram channel called @ShahTrading has a post on the same date as the steemit article, but I cannot figure out the timestamps. It looks like the steemit article is a copy, but I cannot say for sure.

https://t.me/ShahTrading/679
(I am not sure if everyone can see the post on the web, if not, I will post a screenshot.)

The only thing that still unclear is where is the original source? If the post from steemit platform is the source we are talking about then three people did copy it to bitcointalk without providing a link.

What Is Your country Saying About Cryptos? by valnd (account is not banned for plagiarism, but neutral-tagged by The Pharmacist for shitpoting)

UPDATE! G20 CURRENT REGULATORY STATUS by mikejack (account is banned for plagiarism? and also tagged by The Pharmacist for account buying/selling)

G20 should end Positive For Crypto by Mpamaegbu

Mpamaegbu claims to not have provided a link to the source but what actually was the source? If he copied the message from steemit and forgot to put a link, then it can be considered an error. If, on the other hand, he copypasted the post from bitcointalk, then it is blatant plagiarism because his post was not translation nor quotation.

This is your self-defense that has become a common practice by other plagiarists.

Don't really understand why people ignored this issue before you and one other person were accepted into the bestchange campaign, but it's true that you made a huge mistake based on forum rules.