Topic: Request: Disable JayJuanGee in the Wall Observer thread - page 5. (Read 2109 times)

Interesting perspective. It never crossed my mind to view the WO thread in that light. I tried to keep up with it for a bit, but I eventually gave up due to the overwhelming spam that I had to wade through to find anything valuable.

I could give it another shot, but it feels like I would need to do a lot of filtering and ignoring to make it worthwhile.

Nope, people say reddit is the front page of the internet but As far as I'm concerned the WO is.

I check that thread first and foremost before anything else including my voicemail on a daily if not hourly basis.

Much news gets correlated there hidden in the mess and disseminated for those able to discern its meaning.

If its news and it didn't hit the WO then its not news in my book.

Wall Observer is an important, iconic thread of Bitcointalk but I believe if we do some changes with merit distributions, it should be applied globally on the forum. Wall Observer should not be an exceptional place to apply special rule of merit distributions. Then other threads will need the same and it will lead to endless story.

• Wall Observer new ownership?
• What to do with the wall observer thread?
• Consequently, ownership changed, signature was disabled in WO. What's next? Merit disabled, avatar disabled or newbie jail?

Is it time to consider about demerit?

If hopium does not work, demerit feature should be deployed. I guess demerit can be done with not too big difference than flags.

Careful, the WO gang is the largest left alive, seeing they will come after you and bun you!!!
It's still a nice place for shitposting memes, much like some Reddit subs, besides, signatures don't show there so if you count ut the merit begging/fishing it's just a simple topic where still a lot try to feel like in the old days, closing it down probably would mean the end of forum life for a lot.


Why a rusty pipe or a crowbar, if you want to disable JJG all you need is to change the max length of a post on this forum to something under 10 000 characters, but if I think twice about it now, it's probably going to be more traumatic than the old style disabling.

So i guess WO is filled with WHINGING folks who can not handle diversity in posts and Merits. Sad how childish it makes the members look, seems like they can and nobody else cant.

That reminds me of LoyceV's deMerit source application.

What if they could implement an "intention to merit" with a 48 hour recall on it so when everyone got on you for meriting a merit farmer, you could take it back... or not but at least we'd know where you stand and maybe the rusty pipe treatment would be in order .  After 48 hours if not recalled, it would turn into a merit.  This could also be useful for those times when you've used your last merit and something better comes along causing you to regret using your last merit on an inferior post.

i kinda like it (the vote thing), but instead of a thread ban how about that persons posts are automatically hidden to everyone, but with a "unhide" button so that suckers peeps can still see it if they want to.

basically it would be a community ignore thing that individuals can override.

This is a good idea and I can conceptualize it in my head. Instead of there being a "bump" button on the thread, there is a "vote to ban" button under each post by a member under Sr. Member. It would be visible to pre-ordained members of a Council of WO, maybe 20 of the most active WO posters (ideally limited to Hero Members and Legendaries). If a shitposter receives "vote to ban" clicks from 5 or more council members, they are automatically banned from posting in the WO for a month.

However, it would go against theymos' libertarian principles as the Council of WO that could decide to restrict the "freedoms" of certain accounts. It would still probably be helpful.


For example, if this post was in the WO (and I was less than a Sr. Member) it would look like this:

Disbale JJG how?

I mean you can turn on or off someone but disbale how exactly?

I don’t know how to turn on JJG but turn off is easy just say “crypto” and boom 🤯….

I think The WO should have its own Ban power (within WO thread) and then we can just lose those twatter spammers permanently.

The Fact Twatter does not even allow the reading of a thread without signing in make that cesspool not worth the effort to click the link anymore so I'd love to see all links to it blocked ala imgur.

*separated this from previous post as its a completely separate discussion.

Absolutely mate JayJuanGee is matured enough here in our forum which means he already knew what he does or what he want to do. Like for example as a merit source he has his own way to distribute his merits he has the decision how many merits he want to spent everyday everywhere inside the WO thread or not. So why should we keep mind on that thing JJG is one of the merit source that give merits to those post he think worthy to be given also not just only he spent his sMerits on WO thread also he gives some of his merits in other threads.

I am voting against it.
To me JJG is part of the very essence of the WO.
In my very first interaction with the WO, JJG immediately was called:


So I vote NO.
The WO will heal itself from those spammers, merit whores and abuser.

Nice list I need to get out of WO more often.

I'd like to see that list updated, I'd be interested to see how many I've fucked up on.
I have a notoriously fast ignore trigger so...

Also I think you should order that list (in the thread) by percentage rather than absolute which seems to me to be a much better metric as it can be incorrectly interpreted as displayed. Obviously those who distribute larger amounts will hit the scum more often then those that don't distribute at all.

Now if I wanted to start a witchunt, I'd start at those with the highest percentage.

While this openly ironic topic turned into a stream of panegyrics to JayJuanGee, it was even grotesquely beautiful in its own way.

But then hints began that there are quite a few who distribute their merits completely incorrectly, that there are abuses, etc. And others distribute correctly, but to the wrong people. And everything is terrible!

In general, it looks like everyone just has a very different attitude towards merits, for which they can or should be given. All people are different, and it is hardly possible to achieve a single standard, and is it necessary?

In the end, both this discussion and the previous one come down to the fact that there are a number of violators who are trying to use the system in their favor. There will always be violators, and they will always try to pick up the master key to the system. Is it worth it to blame each other for anything and radically change yourself because of these few violators? And after all, it is the violators who are clearly to blame, and not those people about whom many are ready to say a lot of kind words, right?

If the violators are doing something wrong for some purpose, it might be possible to prevent them from getting what they want on the other side, right? Maybe there is a solution on the other side?

Maybe. But both banned and red trusted users can have good posts.

You've sent a lot of sMerit. And even if they get banned, it doesn't necessarily mean their posts were bad. It's tricky if you Merit plagiarism though.

Before I cast my vote, I need to clearly understand your use of the word "disable" wrt JayJuanGee.  I wouldn't like to see Jay's typing fingers (and toes as I'm sure he must use those as well) broken or have him end up as a quadriplegic and/or rusty-piped into compliance.   I just want to be sure that no physical harm will come to JJG during the disabling process.

If the forum administration would go in that direction, then they could also remove the Bitcoin discussion, in which realistically at least 70% of the content is completely useless and meaningless - and what about the Altcoins boards that spammers took over a long time ago, or maybe Gambling boards?

What we need are quality solutions that will prevent the creation of alt farms, but we certainly won't achieve that by closing one board at a time, because as long as there is financial motivation for ranking accounts on this forum, there will be those who will in all possible ways try to use it.

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I noticed that too, and I can say that it is almost a unique phenomenon on the forum - to get merit for a post that was created even several years ago and is in some megathread is sometimes quite surprising. Of course, it would be unfair not to mention another excellent merit source (@DdmrDdmr) that is known for large distributions of merits, and very often for posts that it has already awarded in the past.

Please do. It is certainly interesting, and I think my merit thread could be the “culript” for this.
I didn't expect to top this chart, and by such an amount of merits.
I definitely need to implement the BIP extension on the various devices I use to interact with the forum.

Better solution. Remove the Wall Observer thread and the speculation section.
Would clean up so much junk / spam.

Although I do rarely post speculative things I fully realize that any opinions there are like assholes everyone has one and most of them stink.

Some posts are fun to read, but do they really contribute to the forum in general or help the BTC / crypto world.

-Dave