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legendary
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Can't find that info on Bitmain site.  EBay site shows many FAN as being S7 fans using up to 21.6Watts but I don't believe it as it shows Max RPM at 4500 when S7 fans can do up to 5K RPM.  Yeah, see the 36watts does make me worry if it's too much and can kill the controller like some strong fan can do to a motherboard.  =(

1) Is FAN 1 the Rear intake fan or exhaust FAN?
2) Is 36Watts an issue for Avalon 6? 


It worked fine in a S4, and was one of the recommended replacements on S4's.  But as far as S7 and Avalon 6's I don't think I have seen anyone mention using it.   

I would say if you do watch it and see what temps are doing with it.   
full member
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Can't find that info on Bitmain site.  EBay site shows many FAN as being S7 fans using up to 21.6Watts but I don't believe it as it shows Max RPM at 4500 when S7 fans can do up to 5K RPM.  Yeah, see the 36watts does make me worry if it's too much and can kill the controller like some strong fan can do to a motherboard.  =(

1) Is FAN 1 the Rear intake fan or exhaust FAN?
2) Is 36Watts an issue for Avalon 6? 
legendary
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What do you guys think of this FAN as a spare replacement FAN for the Avalon 6 and S7?  I just swapped it on the S7 and seems a little quieter.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QWB1X3O?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

CFM is at 224.  Any concerns?  Should be ok to use any PWM replacement fan that is almost equivalent correct?  


at top speed it does 3 x 12 = 36 watts.

off hand i would say  look and see what the stock fans pull as 36 watts is a strong pull of power.
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What do you guys think of this FAN as a spare replacement FAN for the Avalon 6 and S7?  I just swapped it on the S7 and seems a little quieter.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QWB1X3O?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

CFM is at 224.  Any concerns?  Should be ok to use any PWM replacement fan that is almost equivalent correct? 
hero member
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One more note:

The "hot" A6 doing 3900+ @ 240VAC, drops down to 3800 when the Antec HCP Platinum 1300W is switch to the 120V line.

From the watt meter, this unit draws 1220 watts @3771 Gh/s. 1220/3771 = 0.323 The PF is 0.99.

hero member
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Here is some performance data over many days for my 3 A6's:

1) Power supplies: Antec HCP Platinum 1300W Power Supply (runs either 120 or 140 VAC).

2) Antec outputs (DVM): 12.3 to 12.4 volts at load. These are plugged into 240 VAC.

3) Hash rate: Two units 3600+, one unit 3900.

4) Each A6 has it's own RPI.

5) All units have the latest MM and RPI firmware.

6) Each Antec has 4 12V power supply buses. Each PCI connector is hooked up to a different bus.

7) They are all hooked up to kano.is.


The A6's display 0.1 to 0.2 volts lower reading than a DVM power supply reading.

yeah out of my curious mind if you flip the two antec's  does the hash rate flip?

I had this same issue with my two avalon's and two 1200 watt seasonic platinums.

I end up with ½ of each seasonic on each side of the two avalons

  Don't do this if you do it wrong you can fry both psu's and both avalon's

once I did this the avalon hash rates balanced out.

This was why I ended up with the 240 volt server psu's



Phil,

I tried your suggestion earlier and maybe, there was a 50Ghz difference.

 I also tried a unique feature that the Antec's have called: OC Link™ - Allows 2 HCP Platinums to work in tandem to power the most demanding systems. This cable hooks up to some sort of special com port and allows two  HCP Platinum 1300's to function as one 2600W supply. I didn't see any change in the collective hash rate.

What I did see a change in was giving each A6 there own RPI. I had two chained together and this added about 100 or 200 Ghs to the lowest performing A6 when the low performer was on it's own. This is consistent with the earlier observation in this thread that there is some sort of compromise when operating an A6 chain. I think what the farms probably do is have a standard setup to eval incoming individual A6's and try to match A6's with similar performance characteristics and put the similar one's together on the same chain.

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legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Here is some performance data over many days for my 3 A6's:

1) Power supplies: Antec HCP Platinum 1300W Power Supply (runs either 120 or 140 VAC).

2) Antec outputs (DVM): 12.3 to 12.4 volts at load. These are plugged into 240 VAC.

3) Hash rate: Two units 3600+, one unit 3900.

4) Each A6 has it's own RPI.

5) All units have the latest MM and RPI firmware.

6) Each Antec has 4 12V power supply buses. Each PCI connector is hooked up to a different bus.

7) They are all hooked up to kano.is.


The A6's display 0.1 to 0.2 volts lower reading than a DVM power supply reading.

yeah out of my curious mind if you flip the two antec's  does the hash rate flip?

I had this same issue with my two avalon's and two 1200 watt seasonic platinums.

I end up with ½ of each seasonic on each side of the two avalons

  Don't do this if you do it wrong you can fry both psu's and both avalon's

once I did this the avalon hash rates balanced out.

This was why I ended up with the 240 volt server psu's

hero member
Activity: 578
Merit: 508
Here is some performance data over many days for my 3 A6's:

1) Power supplies: Antec HCP Platinum 1300W Power Supply (runs either 120 or 140 VAC).

2) Antec outputs (DVM): 12.3 to 12.4 volts at load. These are plugged into 240 VAC.

3) Hash rate: Two units 3600+, one unit 3900.

4) Each A6 has it's own RPI.

5) All units have the latest MM and RPI firmware.

6) Each Antec has 4 12V power supply buses. Each PCI connector is hooked up to a different bus.

7) They are all hooked up to kano.is.


The A6's display 0.1 to 0.2 volts lower reading than a DVM power supply reading.
hero member
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Where did you get your Avalon? Zoom hash? I hear there is a group buy for US somewhere to get cost down to 1200? Looking to get 2 of them but Zoomhash is getting 1450 then also need a PI.

Here you go for the group buy link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-buy-avalon6-1100-closing-jan-12-at-600-pm-est-1318003

Excellent, thanks. I posted my request on that topic and PM'ed PhilipMA also. Thanks Again.
sr. member
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6 cables per connector it is. Thanks for the feedback guys.
legendary
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Anyone know if these 14awg (thicker wires) cables are good enough (2 wires per connector - ground & power) for the Avalon 6? http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Bitmain-Antminer-S1-S3-S5-S7-SP20-Gridseed-6pin-14-AWG-Power-Supply-Cables-/181837555754

Or would it just be safer to get 16awg (not as thick as 14awg) cables that have 6 wires (3 ground & 3 power) per PCI-e connector?

It seems like it will look cleaner when connecting to a server PSU breakout board. Since it's only (14awg) 4 power + 4 ground wires total, compared to (16awg) 12 power + 12 ground wire total connecting to the breakout board on a server PSU.

Sort answer: NO

While the 14Ga wire is better, it then funnels all the power into a just ONE 12V pin on the connector. That pin isn't rated for more than about 7-8 Amps, and that assumes it's a nice solid fit. Much better to have all the pins carrying power. I saw one setup that has a single 14Ga wire that  then was split to the 3 pins on the connector. Much better.
they are a melting hazard do not use them.
legendary
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Anyone know if these 14awg (thicker wires) cables are good enough (2 wires per connector - ground & power) for the Avalon 6? http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Bitmain-Antminer-S1-S3-S5-S7-SP20-Gridseed-6pin-14-AWG-Power-Supply-Cables-/181837555754

Or would it just be safer to get 16awg (not as thick as 14awg) cables that have 6 wires (3 ground & 3 power) per PCI-e connector?

It seems like it will look cleaner when connecting to a server PSU breakout board. Since it's only (14awg) 4 power + 4 ground wires total, compared to (16awg) 12 power + 12 ground wire total connecting to the breakout board on a server PSU.

Sort answer: NO

While the 14Ga wire is better, it then funnels all the power into a just ONE 12V pin on the connector. That pin isn't rated for more than about 7-8 Amps, and that assumes it's a nice solid fit. Much better to have all the pins carrying power. I saw one setup that has a single 14Ga wire that  then was split to the 3 pins on the connector. Much better.

Holy crap I missed the cable was going all through one pin.  That is a horrible idea, I would avoid at all costs.

There are some on the forums that make cables.  I would look on here some Phil has a good show of of Finksy/J4bbrwock gear - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/update-large-review-of-finksyj4bbrwock-server-psus-compared-to-atxpsu-photos-up-1284563
alh
legendary
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Anyone know if these 14awg (thicker wires) cables are good enough (2 wires per connector - ground & power) for the Avalon 6? http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Bitmain-Antminer-S1-S3-S5-S7-SP20-Gridseed-6pin-14-AWG-Power-Supply-Cables-/181837555754

Or would it just be safer to get 16awg (not as thick as 14awg) cables that have 6 wires (3 ground & 3 power) per PCI-e connector?

It seems like it will look cleaner when connecting to a server PSU breakout board. Since it's only (14awg) 4 power + 4 ground wires total, compared to (16awg) 12 power + 12 ground wire total connecting to the breakout board on a server PSU.

Sort answer: NO

While the 14Ga wire is better, it then funnels all the power into a just ONE 12V pin on the connector. That pin isn't rated for more than about 7-8 Amps, and that assumes it's a nice solid fit. Much better to have all the pins carrying power. I saw one setup that has a single 14Ga wire that  then was split to the 3 pins on the connector. Much better.
sr. member
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Where did you get your Avalon? Zoom hash? I hear there is a group buy for US somewhere to get cost down to 1200? Looking to get 2 of them but Zoomhash is getting 1450 then also need a PI.

Here you go for the group buy link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-buy-avalon6-1100-closing-jan-12-at-600-pm-est-1318003
hero member
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I flashed both versions to the corresponding Rpi (SD cards) and neither worked.  

I used Win32DiskImager and SD Formatter

Interesting - that's exactly the process I used and it worked fine for me... And the new version of the RPi firmware has the ability to upgrade through the web interface.

Are you sure you flashed it with the correct version for the original Pi?  It's the bcm2708 version - the other version is for the RPi2.

Oh, one other thing worth noting, I've reverted back to the 11/24 MM instead of the 12/25, I was having units randomly go offline and remain offline - but you can run the 11/24 MM on the latest RPi image without any problems.

I am using

601510-afa837a0

with the stock sdcard kilo17 sent to me
good results I am downvolting today 11.75 volts  at freq 500 and fan 20

very quiet at these settings
and good eff about .3 watts a gh



Where did you get your Avalon? Zoom hash? I hear there is a group buy for US somewhere to get cost down to 1200? Looking to get 2 of them but Zoomhash is getting 1450 then also need a PI.
legendary
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So does undervolting improve efficiency or just reduce noise?

Both, but   not a lot on efficiency.


I did 12.7 volts   8000 gh at 0.36 watts a gh

 I did 12.2 volts  7100 gh at 0.31 watts a gh

I did  11.8 volts  6100 gh at 0.30 watts a gh.
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So does undervolting improve efficiency or just reduce noise?
sr. member
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Anyone know if these 14awg (thicker wires) cables are good enough (2 wires per connector - ground & power) for the Avalon 6? http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Bitmain-Antminer-S1-S3-S5-S7-SP20-Gridseed-6pin-14-AWG-Power-Supply-Cables-/181837555754

Or would it just be safer to get 16awg (not as thick as 14awg) cables that have 6 wires (3 ground & 3 power) per PCI-e connector?

It seems like it will look cleaner when connecting to a server PSU breakout board. Since it's only (14awg) 4 power + 4 ground wires total, compared to (16awg) 12 power + 12 ground wire total connecting to the breakout board on a server PSU.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
I flashed both versions to the corresponding Rpi (SD cards) and neither worked.  

I used Win32DiskImager and SD Formatter

Interesting - that's exactly the process I used and it worked fine for me... And the new version of the RPi firmware has the ability to upgrade through the web interface.

Are you sure you flashed it with the correct version for the original Pi?  It's the bcm2708 version - the other version is for the RPi2.

Oh, one other thing worth noting, I've reverted back to the 11/24 MM instead of the 12/25, I was having units randomly go offline and remain offline - but you can run the 11/24 MM on the latest RPi image without any problems.

I am using

601510-afa837a0

with the stock sdcard kilo17 sent to me
good results I am downvolting today 11.75 volts  at freq 500 and fan 20

very quiet at these settings
and good eff about .3 watts a gh

hero member
Activity: 687
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I flashed both versions to the corresponding Rpi (SD cards) and neither worked.  

I used Win32DiskImager and SD Formatter

Interesting - that's exactly the process I used and it worked fine for me... And the new version of the RPi firmware has the ability to upgrade through the web interface.

Are you sure you flashed it with the correct version for the original Pi?  It's the bcm2708 version - the other version is for the RPi2.

Oh, one other thing worth noting, I've reverted back to the 11/24 MM instead of the 12/25, I was having units randomly go offline and remain offline - but you can run the 11/24 MM on the latest RPi image without any problems.
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