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Quote from: nhando on December 28, 2015, 05:15:00 PM

Phillip was very generous to build me a custom stand / FAN mount for my Dual IBM 2K PSU when he heard I didn't have a mount for this bundle. His mount is very simple but quite functional as I can turn it side ways so the fan can push the hot air up if I wanted to. That's how I will do it once my new server Rack arrive. He even throw in little touch like Pine scented cardboard box to help avoid USPS abuse, although I doubt they can damage this package. =) This mount does everything I need it to do. Thanks Phillip! Now let's hope Finksy / J4bberwock comes up with something similar for a commercially available bundle with the new 4K board as I need many more of these later.

I did not realize how good my system is as it allows the single mount plate 2x psu to work and the better mount plate to work.

I posted the photos of it before and after of it setup

some cardboard packing the base plate and the mount plate

the 2 psu's are in the center of 1 s-7 and 1 avalon 6
he has the two psu's facing in two directions and the 1 yellow wire you see is powering 1 psu
he does not have the newe r2x psu plate so he has to have his psu's in opposite directions to manage wires

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Phillip was very generous to build me a custom stand / FAN mount for my Dual IBM 2K PSU when he heard I didn't have a mount for this bundle. His mount is very simple but quite functional as I can turn it side ways so the fan can push the hot air up if I wanted to. That's how I will do it once my new server Rack arrive. He even throw in little touch like Pine scented cardboard box to help avoid USPS abuse, although I doubt they can damage this package. =) This mount does everything I need it to do. Thanks Phillip! Now let's hope Finksy / J4bberwock comes up with something similar for a commercially available bundle with the new 4K board as I need many more of these later.

http://imgur.com/a/7YSwW

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just updated MM and pi FW and dont see any difference at all in speed.. also no smartspeed option in the config that i can see yet

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Quote from: nhando on December 28, 2015, 01:12:07 PM

Yes, they are way way behind on the delivery date. I'm surprise they even do morning deliveries as they usually deliver around 4PM. I was anxiously awaiting it over the weekend to start tweaking my environment. I will check the mail after I'm back from work and post update on your masterpiece on this thread as well as your thread. Please quote my post when you see it so that the picture will show up for others to view.

Well it is good yes master piece no.

I could make a nicer one I may do that.

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Yes, they are way way behind on the delivery date. I'm surprise they even do morning deliveries as they usually deliver around 4PM. I was anxiously awaiting it over the weekend to start tweaking my environment. I will check the mail after I'm back from work and post update on your masterpiece on this thread as well as your thread. Please quote my post when you see it so that the picture will show up for others to view.

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Quote from: nhando on December 28, 2015, 09:32:21 AM

Quote from: MarkAz on December 28, 2015, 09:17:06 AM

Quote from: 64dimensions on December 28, 2015, 08:33:56 AM

Any indication on how the new MM firmware affects hash rate?

I've upgraded both the MM and RPi (I was running an older version, so I had to reflash the cards, but the latest looks like it can be flashed via the web interface). So far no real difference in performance, everything seems to hash exactly the same. I looks like the interface is a bit faster, but TBH I could just be seeing things. A couple things on the RPi the might be helpful - when you replace it, it doesn't have DHCP enabled and was set to 192.168.0.100 - but I backed up all my settings in advance, and just re-applied them once it was booted. The only other thing worth noting is that the one with bcm2708 in the filename is for the older Pi, and with bcm2709 is for the Pi 2.

As far as the Pi 2 doing anything to the performance, I would be shocked if it did - the CPU on the Pi isn't exactly being hammered... I think the main reason they were going after the Pi was just availability.

What temperature is the Avalon running now by default after the upgrade? Is it still the super hot range of 70s?

Looks like the fan bracket has arrived in Texas. Let us know how it works.

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Quote from: MarkAz on December 28, 2015, 09:17:06 AM

Quote from: 64dimensions on December 28, 2015, 08:33:56 AM

Any indication on how the new MM firmware affects hash rate?

I've upgraded both the MM and RPi (I was running an older version, so I had to reflash the cards, but the latest looks like it can be flashed via the web interface). So far no real difference in performance, everything seems to hash exactly the same. I looks like the interface is a bit faster, but TBH I could just be seeing things. A couple things on the RPi the might be helpful - when you replace it, it doesn't have DHCP enabled and was set to 192.168.0.100 - but I backed up all my settings in advance, and just re-applied them once it was booted. The only other thing worth noting is that the one with bcm2708 in the filename is for the older Pi, and with bcm2709 is for the Pi 2.

As far as the Pi 2 doing anything to the performance, I would be shocked if it did - the CPU on the Pi isn't exactly being hammered... I think the main reason they were going after the Pi was just availability.

What temperature is the Avalon running now by default after the upgrade? Is it still the super hot range of 70s?

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Quote from: 64dimensions on December 28, 2015, 08:33:56 AM

Any indication on how the new MM firmware affects hash rate?

I've upgraded both the MM and RPi (I was running an older version, so I had to reflash the cards, but the latest looks like it can be flashed via the web interface). So far no real difference in performance, everything seems to hash exactly the same. I looks like the interface is a bit faster, but TBH I could just be seeing things. A couple things on the RPi the might be helpful - when you replace it, it doesn't have DHCP enabled and was set to 192.168.0.100 - but I backed up all my settings in advance, and just re-applied them once it was booted. The only other thing worth noting is that the one with bcm2708 in the filename is for the older Pi, and with bcm2709 is for the Pi 2.

As far as the Pi 2 doing anything to the performance, I would be shocked if it did - the CPU on the Pi isn't exactly being hammered... I think the main reason they were going after the Pi was just availability.

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Quote from: 64dimensions on December 28, 2015, 08:33:56 AM

Quote from: MarkAz on December 28, 2015, 03:44:28 AM

FYI, A new MM and RPi firmware were just released - I installed the MM on all my machines without any hiccups, but there's no facility to upgrade the RPi via the web interface, so you have to backup your setting then reflash the card and get it going again (haven't done it yet). Looks like some good changes according to the changelog (also nice to see a company that actually TELLS you what has changed). They also added support for the RPi2, so if you were dying to run one of those, your Christmas prayers have been answered.

The links as always are on their wiki:

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon6#RPi_Firmware

specifically:

http://downloads.canaan-creative.com/software/avalon6/mm/2015-12-28/
downloads.canaan-creative.com/software/avalon6/openwrt/20151225/

MarkAZ,

Any indication on how the new MM firmware affects hash rate?

along these lines if I get my rasp pi 2 working I will show if it improves speed

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Quote from: MarkAz on December 28, 2015, 03:44:28 AM

FYI, A new MM and RPi firmware were just released - I installed the MM on all my machines without any hiccups, but there's no facility to upgrade the RPi via the web interface, so you have to backup your setting then reflash the card and get it going again (haven't done it yet). Looks like some good changes according to the changelog (also nice to see a company that actually TELLS you what has changed). They also added support for the RPi2, so if you were dying to run one of those, your Christmas prayers have been answered.

The links as always are on their wiki:

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon6#RPi_Firmware

specifically:

http://downloads.canaan-creative.com/software/avalon6/mm/2015-12-28/
downloads.canaan-creative.com/software/avalon6/openwrt/20151225/

MarkAZ,

Any indication on how the new MM firmware affects hash rate?

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Quote from: MarkAz on December 28, 2015, 03:44:28 AM

FYI, A new MM and RPi firmware were just released - I installed the MM on all my machines without any hiccups, but there's no facility to upgrade the RPi via the web interface, so you have to backup your setting then reflash the card and get it going again (haven't done it yet). Looks like some good changes according to the changelog (also nice to see a company that actually TELLS you what has changed). They also added support for the RPi2, so if you were dying to run one of those, your Christmas prayers have been answered.

The links as always are on their wiki:

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon6#RPi_Firmware

specifically:

http://downloads.canaan-creative.com/software/avalon6/mm/2015-12-28/
downloads.canaan-creative.com/software/avalon6/openwrt/20151225/

well I have a rasp pi 2 so I may try to get that running.

When ever I did a new card for my rasp pi I saved an old one.

So you need 2 or more sdcards to be safe.

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FYI, A new MM and RPi firmware were just released - I installed the MM on all my machines without any hiccups, but there's no facility to upgrade the RPi via the web interface, so you have to backup your setting then reflash the card and get it going again (haven't done it yet). Looks like some good changes according to the changelog (also nice to see a company that actually TELLS you what has changed). They also added support for the RPi2, so if you were dying to run one of those, your Christmas prayers have been answered.

The links as always are on their wiki:

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon6#RPi_Firmware

specifically:

http://downloads.canaan-creative.com/software/avalon6/mm/2015-12-28/
downloads.canaan-creative.com/software/avalon6/openwrt/20151225/

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It's quite interesting that the 2 box are reporting a wide difference in temperature 69 vs 73 even though they are in the same location. Again the box does like to run HOT as it's forcing itself to be in the 69-76 C temp even when you're in freezing cold Temperature. For the S7 it will be in the low 50C temp. My Avalon six is not running much lower temperature now that my gargage is 49 F vs when it was at 90F. I had to manually force the fan to run at 80-100% if I want it down a few more C lower then normal. Very strange how they are doing this and I'm not very comfortable with the box running in the 73-78C range. I just changed the FAN speed to 80% and that made the box run at 59/63 which is a range I'm more comfortable with. I'm not sure why the Auto FAN control prefers to keep it much much hotter. I rather lose a cheap easily replaceable FAN then melting my expensive HASH boards.

P.S Strangely I seem to get the best hash rate at 80% fan speed vs default of 20% as well.

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My Avalon 6's are running in the cold today. It was low to mid 30's F so pretty cold. It did not seem to effect my mining. I think biggest effect is voltages as far as speed. I know the rumor about hotter running faster... with this cold and I'm getting my normal I'm not totally sold on that one anymore.

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Quote from: nhando on December 26, 2015, 12:31:48 AM

Agreed, my little A have been stable up until today. It's hashing along wo issues at 100% fan speed, just reduced it to 80% now that I'm able to drop garage temp down to 86 by venting out the Garage. Wonder how it would have handled it if I changed the voltage and hashing at 3.9TH. Until I get better stress test, I need to monitor it closer and pamper it.

P.S Very strange but after changing to 80% FAN Speed, this unit is running 70 and 75C and is average 3.5TH after 45mins. I highest average I got before this was only 3.4TH after changing to 220V. I'm finally getting advertised rate.

nice to see the temps improve and the hash rate jumped up.

The avalon 6 uses a fan/freq/temp/volt driven software it controls the hashrate so weird results happen when altering fan speeds and voltage.

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Agreed, my little A have been stable up until today. It's hashing along wo issues at 100% fan speed, just reduced it to 80% now that I'm able to drop garage temp down to 86 by venting out the Garage. Wonder how it would have handled it if I changed the voltage and hashing at 3.9TH. Until I get better stress test, I need to monitor it closer and pamper it.

P.S Very strange but after changing to 80% FAN Speed, this unit is running 70 and 75C and is average 3.5TH after 45mins. I highest average I got before this was only 3.4TH after changing to 220V. I'm finally getting advertised rate.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on December 25, 2015, 09:00:12 PM

Quote from: nhando on December 25, 2015, 08:11:04 PM

SMRACer said he ran these boxes even at 115F on some days and no issues except for the Monarch boxes before. I have higher confident that the S7 can handle the heat better than the Avalon as it have dual fans and at higher RPM. It's shell is not even hot. I will drop to 80% and see but the fact that the fan reporting issue and the auto shutdown have me a bit concern so I will be monitoring the Avalon 6 more closely with heat. Right now it's very stable with 100% FAN speed but yeah that will wear out the fan faster.

The antminer s-7 can run in a 100F plus room

No sure what the avalon six can do.

but the psu's become less efficient at the 45c mark. So if the room is 100f or 38c it will act to get the psu's warmer. you lose efficiency and the higher hash just costs more then the power used.

as for the fans on the s-7 60% setting gives 3800rpm 100% setting does 4400rpm ..

I lost the net for 29 hours while on a trip my fans were at 60% and 3800 rpm no issues. To make sure the fans are at 3800 rpm try 60% and 65% it varies from s-7 to s-7.

All this is temporary until your temps drop back to normal in Texas.

Most manufactures are pretty cautious on operation temperature. A lot can be pushed much harder and some data centers have done it. I have not heard anyone putting the Avalon 6 in a stress test though.

Experienced my first problem so pretty good considering a month and like 4 day's of running. I had a power outage and it seems the RPI picked up both but did not mine on both. So I can't really blame the miner as it was a power outage. So for that to be only problem I've had in this amount of time I still consider it to truly be a solid miner.

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Quote from: nhando on December 25, 2015, 08:11:04 PM

SMRACer said he ran these boxes even at 115F on some days and no issues except for the Monarch boxes before. I have higher confident that the S7 can handle the heat better than the Avalon as it have dual fans and at higher RPM. It's shell is not even hot. I will drop to 80% and see but the fact that the fan reporting issue and the auto shutdown have me a bit concern so I will be monitoring the Avalon 6 more closely with heat. Right now it's very stable with 100% FAN speed but yeah that will wear out the fan faster.

The antminer s-7 can run in a 100F plus room

No sure what the avalon six can do.

but the psu's become less efficient at the 45c mark. So if the room is 100f or 38c it will act to get the psu's warmer. you lose efficiency and the higher hash just costs more then the power used.

as for the fans on the s-7 60% setting gives 3800rpm 100% setting does 4400rpm ..

I lost the net for 29 hours while on a trip my fans were at 60% and 3800 rpm no issues. To make sure the fans are at 3800 rpm try 60% and 65% it varies from s-7 to s-7.

All this is temporary until your temps drop back to normal in Texas.

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SMRACer said he ran these boxes even at 115F on some days and no issues except for the Monarch boxes before. I have higher confident that the S7 can handle the heat better than the Avalon as it have dual fans and at higher RPM. It's shell is not even hot. I will drop to 80% and see but the fact that the fan reporting issue and the auto shutdown have me a bit concern so I will be monitoring the Avalon 6 more closely with heat. Right now it's very stable with 100% FAN speed but yeah that will wear out the fan faster.

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Quote from: nhando on December 25, 2015, 06:50:35 PM

RPM showing right now is 3930-3960 for AVALON 6 at 100% . S7 is showing 4320 to 4440

it is hard on the fans to max them at 100%

try 80% on the avalon

try 60% on the s-7 yeah sounds too low it is not it should give you 3800 rpm which is good enough.

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once fans are a bit lower . down clock a bit ______ sucks but heat it is a mofo and kills gear.

get the avalon at freq 460

get the s-7 lower if you were at freq 625 drop to freq 600
if you were at freq 650 drop to freq 625.

This to try to lower the garage to 85-88f

And lower your gh by 5-10% until outdoor temps drop a bit.

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