Rise of Streamers in Online Gambling - page 7.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 04, 2022, 11:23:52 AM

Quote from: ultrloa on August 04, 2022, 10:55:37 AM

That's how streamers do their business with their viewers in terms of promoting something since they want to get a best result for theirselves so we need to be more smart upon checking on what they are saying since most provably they are just trying lure us so that they can get tons of money for getting more people to register on their provided referral links.

They are getting tons of money but from those viewers who are watching them and from the pocket of the casino house that they are promoting, it's true that we needed to be more wise following those streamers who intentionally luring us to visit the site and start playing the game, remember that in gambling its more on luck base and there's no proven strategy that will be exposed to suck the house funds.

One of the reason why I don't mostly watch any random streamers promoting some casino especially when they are only playing on 1 platform only since mostly they are promoter of that casino and we cannot get quality substance on their contents.

People should know that luck based games really will matter depends on your luck to win a small or big amount of money.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 05, 2022, 09:46:53 AM

In line with what you are saying, the kids should be guarded well as we all know that the influence of internet is really wide and without any doubt streamers are everywhere, once the kids gain interest to whatever kind of videos being hypes the curiosity about them can lead them to gambling, it's still the parents responsibilities to keep their kids away from this kind of exposures.

Make sure that you are aware of what your kids are visiting online and what they are doing in each time they are in front of the internet.

I greatly agree, with the rise of streamers, gambling channels are everywhere, youtube, TikTok, twitch, Facebook etc. If we can't make them avoid watching the gambling channel, at least we can explain to them things they need to know about gambling, its pros, and cons, and emphasize the cons. I always believe that exposure and proper awareness about gambling are better than avoiding them because kids will at least have more knowledge about gambling this way.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on August 04, 2022, 07:40:27 PM

But from this, we may also see how children are also increasing in playing slots. This is dilema

Don't blame the advertisers or streamers for that. The internet is widely open to everyone.

Aside from that, most children are techy nowadays and even though they will be prohibited to do gambling, they will encounter that while they grow.

And sometimes, it's not the content that streamers are being watched but the popularity as I'm sure streamers are not focusing on the same content.

That's a wise thought and true because the internet is available to anyone who wants to explore all sorts of things, including gambling. We have to pay attention to the children who are in this day and age because they seem to understand the internet better than their parents so they can know how to access things they shouldn't know. If we as parents can tell them how to access the internet properly, they will not use it for unnecessary things and will not be influenced by streamers trying to provide their content.

In line with what you are saying, the kids should be guarded well as we all know that the influence of internet is really wide and without any doubt streamers are everywhere, once the kids gain interest to whatever kind of videos being hypes the curiosity about them can lead them to gambling, it's still the parents responsibilities to keep their kids away from this kind of exposures.

Make sure that you are aware of what your kids are visiting online and what they are doing in each time they are in front of the internet.

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Some of these people are legitimately making money from streaming without being affiliated with the casino. This business has a little more shady area because some streamers get paid by the casino to play with their money and they don't admit it at the stream, so that people think they're watching a real game but in reality the streamer is acting like it's a big deal and he's betting a lot of money but he can't lose anything. Of course this isn't any different from all those TV ads where they edit the model's face or hair to show they look better after using some cream or shampoo. All ads are lies and twitch streaming is just another form of an ad.

Right, but if you are smart enough, this streamers can make more money by affiliating their face with the casinos. And this is the business model that we have seen very effective. Even though casinos are willing to take sponsors from top athletes, what's more with a casino that has starting his name and wanted to be known. As for the money, we all have been speculated that it's either fake money or it directly comes from their affiliated casinos so that betting max won't be a problem and usually if you have huge bet the returns will be big as well.

I have talked about this for gaming, I will say it for the gambling as well. Watching streamers is not about what they are streaming at all, sure that's a very important part of it if you are there to watch the game or gambling, but most people who are long term do not go there for that. I have seen people who stream while chat was talking about something totally irrelevant.

Because that's the type of familiarity you create with your chat when you are a streamer, you could be playing latest Fifa while they are talking about one of them getting A on math class for all they care, it's just a group of friends that meet for the same streamer whenever he is on air. Gambling streamers are the same, just because you watch it, doesn't mean you watch it for that.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 04, 2022, 07:56:11 PM

Quote from: Rengga Jati on August 04, 2022, 07:40:27 PM

But from this, we may also see how children are also increasing in playing slots. This is dilema

Don't blame the advertisers or streamers for that. The internet is widely open to everyone.

Aside from that, most children are techy nowadays and even though they will be prohibited to do gambling, they will encounter that while they grow.

And sometimes, it's not the content that streamers are being watched but the popularity as I'm sure streamers are not focusing on the same content.

That's a wise thought and true because the internet is available to anyone who wants to explore all sorts of things, including gambling. We have to pay attention to the children who are in this day and age because they seem to understand the internet better than their parents so they can know how to access things they shouldn't know. If we as parents can tell them how to access the internet properly, they will not use it for unnecessary things and will not be influenced by streamers trying to provide their content.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 04, 2022, 01:19:07 PM

Yesterday, when I was already going to bed, I decided to watch a couple of gambling streams (just after this thread). Those streams that were conducted by popular streamers, and where they lost several thousand dollars, were pretty boring - they did not show any emotions. But then I watched a stream of one not very popular streamer (he had about 150 viewers) and he looked really broken after he lost about 250 dollars. So, I believe more and more that top streamers play for fake money and their streams are nothing more than casino advertisements.

That's easy to know that if that small streamer was actually gambling with his real money while big streamer may not even use 1 cents to gambling. It's often to me to see the small streamers are always feeling broken while they were loosing their money. For them 250 USD is quite large as they can use it to buy something for their live. I know that big streamers were only selling their gimmick. Getting bunch of refferal has become their main target to get bunch of money from the platforms.
If someone losing bunch of money and he must feel desperate with it.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on August 04, 2022, 07:40:27 PM

But from this, we may also see how children are also increasing in playing slots. This is dilema

Don't blame the advertisers or streamers for that. The internet is widely open to everyone.

Aside from that, most children are techy nowadays and even though they will be prohibited to do gambling, they will encounter that while they grow.

And sometimes, it's not the content that streamers are being watched but the popularity as I'm sure streamers are not focusing on the same content.

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Thia data probably also show the increase of slots, companies, and also gamblers in this wolrd, moreover online casinos.
We have seen that this activity may be increasing highly since the covid. And now the numbers are increasing again and again. So many slot olatfomr s we can find. That is why each company will also do their best for marketing. One of them is by endorsing or uaing certain influencers to set a streamers for slots. And commonly this will work moreover if they have big followers or subscribers. This will reallly give peofit to the slot platforms.
But from this, we may also see how children are also increasing in playing slots. This is dilema

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on August 04, 2022, 04:11:55 PM

I'd like to ask, do you believe a casino system can manage certain gamblers' wins like the streamers affiliated with it?

I believe no and not necessary to do it just for the sake of the stream.

It's just that if there's an affiliation, there is surely a provided decent bankroll given (or we can call it credits) by the gambling site that's why there are always chances that a streamer can also hit big winnings, and experience a series of huge payouts.

No risk, no pressure - the affiliated streamer will just enjoy the content and do what needs to be done.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on August 04, 2022, 04:11:55 PM

Sometimes I think that I can't fully believe the big wins of the streamers while watching because to be honest they seem to be affiliated with a certain casino. Their winnings are ostensibly orchestrated although it may be difficult to prove, this is based on the fact that other gamblers still find it difficult to win bets compared to them.

The one I am watching on youtube often lost huge bankrolls during his stream, he was even criticized that his streams is nothing exciting because a 10x win is so boring. He just answered, he is showing the true face of gambling which I very much appreciated.

Quote from: BITCOIN4X on August 04, 2022, 04:11:55 PM

I'd like to ask, do you believe a casino system can manage certain gamblers' wins like the streamers affiliated with it?

I do think it's possible but at the same time put their income at risk since I think the rigged would have a universal effect on whoever plays the same game and the same currency as the streamer during the stream.

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If they advertise it, the obvious is there and they're doing it for the sake of the payment that they've got to introduce and give exposure to that casino.
You'll see them telling that they're encouraging people to gamble there because that's how it should work because that's the main reason on why they get paid and why they're playing there.

Typical job right? Its normal that they would really be doing things on whats been asked and mandated and as showing off their good performance or results then they would be trying out their best on hooking up new

players to the platform or site and does really make that payment to be worth and this is also some good portfolio building too which would really be helpful for their future projects to get if they do have
that good record and recommendations.

The only thing here is that people should be wise and be wary of their decisions that had been made.

The decision is free for everyone of us and those that follow these streamers. They're aware about those sponsorships and they're also given that disclaimer that if they're going to gamble, they should do it only with the amount that they afford to lose.
The others won't listen to that sound advice but those that are know it and yet not following it, they just accept whatever outcome they get as they gamble.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on August 04, 2022, 04:11:55 PM

Sometimes I think that I can't fully believe the big wins of the streamers while watching because to be honest they seem to be affiliated with a certain casino. Their winnings are ostensibly orchestrated although it may be difficult to prove, this is based on the fact that other gamblers still find it difficult to win bets compared to them.

I'd like to ask, do you believe a casino system can manage certain gamblers' wins like the streamers affiliated with it?

Everything is possible on which codes could be altered if its needed.I do really get your point and perception about these winnings to be somewhat rigged which is definitely true and i do have the same feels but we cant

really prove it out since they've been playing with huge balance into their gambling accounts which means that they could make out big bets on every roll and we know chances is there even fair RNG thing
could really able to show off big wins and hits which will really be poking up someones interest.

Some might be that dubious when it comes to fairness thats why they do still that hesitant after seeing streams something like this.

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Sometimes I think that I can't fully believe the big wins of the streamers while watching because to be honest they seem to be affiliated with a certain casino. Their winnings are ostensibly orchestrated although it may be difficult to prove, this is based on the fact that other gamblers still find it difficult to win bets compared to them.

I'd like to ask, do you believe a casino system can manage certain gamblers' wins like the streamers affiliated with it?

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Quote from: Fatunad on August 03, 2022, 07:59:22 PM

We should not make ourselves to be easily get fooled specially if the streamer do keeps winning on playing those games which you cant assure if those are valid or legit wins or something
rigged or fixed thats why if you've decided to make out some deposits then you should really be that making further research about a casino and not just hastily make some deposits
without having in depth research.

I really don't think that the game played by streamers is rigged since the Casino are operating simultaneously. It maybe sponsored but rigged, I think not. Aside from that I agree that we shouldn't get fooled by the streamer whose videos are just winning big. They are not presenting the true face of gambling industry. That is why I like watching youtube channels that show even the worst buy-in they played.

Quote from: KTChampions on August 04, 2022, 01:19:07 PM

Yesterday, when I was already going to bed, I decided to watch a couple of gambling streams (just after this thread). Those streams that were conducted by popular streamers, and where they lost several thousand dollars, were pretty boring - they did not show any emotions. But then I watched a stream of one not very popular streamer (he had about 150 viewers) and he looked really broken after he lost about 250 dollars. So, I believe more and more that top streamers play for fake money and their streams are nothing more than casino advertisements.

Because most popular streamers are sponsored. So they don't really lose money in their streams while the one you said that losses $250 feels it because it comes from his own pocket.

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Yesterday, when I was already going to bed, I decided to watch a couple of gambling streams (just after this thread). Those streams that were conducted by popular streamers, and where they lost several thousand dollars, were pretty boring - they did not show any emotions. But then I watched a stream of one not very popular streamer (he had about 150 viewers) and he looked really broken after he lost about 250 dollars. So, I believe more and more that top streamers play for fake money and their streams are nothing more than casino advertisements.

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Quote from: ultrloa on August 04, 2022, 10:55:37 AM

That's how streamers do their business with their viewers in terms of promoting something since they want to get a best result for theirselves so we need to be more smart upon checking on what they are saying since most provably they are just trying lure us so that they can get tons of money for getting more people to register on their provided referral links.

They are getting tons of money but from those viewers who are watching them and from the pocket of the casino house that they are promoting, it's true that we needed to be more wise following those streamers who intentionally luring us to visit the site and start playing the game, remember that in gambling its more on luck base and there's no proven strategy that will be exposed to suck the house funds.

Never will happen that the result of one gambler will be duplicated by another set of gamblers unless there's exposed from the game or there's some hack that happened.

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Quote from: Fatunad on August 03, 2022, 07:59:22 PM

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Yeah, streamers playing on casino accounts and might have a fixed game to show users watching the stream know what happened when they win, the thrill behind it. Full of manipulate so I have a very bad view of any casino being advertised by streamers.

If they advertise it, the obvious is there and they're doing it for the sake of the payment that they've got to introduce and give exposure to that casino.
You'll see them telling that they're encouraging people to gamble there because that's how it should work because that's the main reason on why they get paid and why they're playing there.

Typical job right? Its normal that they would really be doing things on whats been asked and mandated and as showing off their good performance or results then they would be trying out their best on hooking up new

players to the platform or site and does really make that payment to be worth and this is also some good portfolio building too which would really be helpful for their future projects to get if they do have
that good record and recommendations.

The only thing here is that people should be wise and be wary of their decisions that had been made.

Streamers also want to make money and they are there to create contents for their own benefits so don't get surprised about them hyping up a several casino since they are paid to do that. And lets do our own diligence to research what they are talking about or the content showed to us since at the end of the day its up for us to try what they are doing then test our luck playing on casino they recommend.

We should not make ourselves to be easily get fooled specially if the streamer do keeps winning on playing those games which you cant assure if those are valid or legit wins or something
rigged or fixed thats why if you've decided to make out some deposits then you should really be that making further research about a casino and not just hastily make some deposits
without having in depth research.

That's how streamers do their business with their viewers in terms of promoting something since they want to get a best result for theirselves so we need to be more smart upon checking on what they are saying since most provably they are just trying lure us so that they can get tons of money for getting more people to register on their provided referral links.

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Quote from: pawanjain on August 03, 2022, 10:25:36 AM

Most of the times these so called streamers are being paid by respective casinos to promote their casino.
It's their joint effort to show that the streamer is making massive profits while in reality most of us lose money.
It's a strategy being used by many companies and works out well. As a user we have to be aware and only gamble within our budget.

Yeah, streamers playing on casino accounts and might have a fixed game to show users watching the stream know what happened when they win, the thrill behind it. Full of manipulate so I have a very bad view of any casino being advertised by streamers.

I don't even think so. It's not that streamers promoting the casino will always be a bad thing but yeah seeing how easy those scammers got max win will make people feel curious about what if they will get that max win. Maxwin was not an easy thing to be achieved and it's pure depend on our luck. I think that in this case it's not casino's fault. It's people's choice whether they wanna try that or not.

You are saying that you are okay if the casino is trying to fake it out by hiring a streamer for their promotion and advertisement.
Casinos are basically cheating the users since what they promote doesn't really happen when we gamble at their site.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on August 04, 2022, 04:10:30 AM

Quote from: bittick on August 04, 2022, 02:19:26 AM

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Quote from: pawanjain on August 03, 2022, 10:25:36 AM

Most of the times these so called streamers are being paid by respective casinos to promote their casino.
It's their joint effort to show that the streamer is making massive profits while in reality most of us lose money.
It's a strategy being used by many companies and works out well. As a user we have to be aware and only gamble within our budget.

Yeah, streamers playing on casino accounts and might have a fixed game to show users watching the stream know what happened when they win, the thrill behind it. Full of manipulate so I have a very bad view of any casino being advertised by streamers.

I don't even think so. It's not that streamers promoting the casino will always be a bad thing but yeah seeing how easy those scammers got max win will make people feel curious about what if they will get that max win. Maxwin was not an easy thing to be achieved and it's pure depend on our luck. I think that in this case it's not casino's fault. It's people's choice whether they wanna try that or not.

Streamers has a a contract with those gambling casinos like there's a designated amount they can use and only limited to withdrawal and there a designated timeframe they will make a stream so they keep promoting those gambling casino and of course they didn't get too much in with their funds because at the first place it is a sponsor thing so they aren't hesitant to make a large amount of wages.

That's what we all suspected though, might be very much obvious to us, but there are a few streamers admitting to this It's like they wanted to show their fans or audience that they indeed have the money to spent on gambling. Betting on max bet on slots and then hitting that huge bonus jackpot, that is a thing of beauty for us gamblers who have been playing slots and hooping that we have that kind of money to spend on gambling.

On the other hard, common sense will tell us, this guys are spending like literally hundreds of thousands per month, why not just play without showing it off? It's not a bad thing, however, if you have that kind of money, it's better to play and be low profile. You just don't know, you might be the target by the criminals, just saying.

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Quote from: bittick on August 04, 2022, 02:19:26 AM

Quote from: popeye95 on August 03, 2022, 02:24:06 PM

Quote from: pawanjain on August 03, 2022, 10:25:36 AM

Most of the times these so called streamers are being paid by respective casinos to promote their casino.
It's their joint effort to show that the streamer is making massive profits while in reality most of us lose money.
It's a strategy being used by many companies and works out well. As a user we have to be aware and only gamble within our budget.

Yeah, streamers playing on casino accounts and might have a fixed game to show users watching the stream know what happened when they win, the thrill behind it. Full of manipulate so I have a very bad view of any casino being advertised by streamers.

I don't even think so. It's not that streamers promoting the casino will always be a bad thing but yeah seeing how easy those scammers got max win will make people feel curious about what if they will get that max win. Maxwin was not an easy thing to be achieved and it's pure depend on our luck. I think that in this case it's not casino's fault. It's people's choice whether they wanna try that or not.

Streamers has a a contract with those gambling casinos like there's a designated amount they can use and only limited to withdrawal and there a designated timeframe they will make a stream so they keep promoting those gambling casino and of course they didn't get too much in with their funds because at the first place it is a sponsor thing so they aren't hesitant to make a large amount of wages.

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