Rise of Streamers in Online Gambling - page 8.

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Quote from: bittick on August 04, 2022, 01:19:26 AM

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Quote from: pawanjain on August 03, 2022, 09:25:36 AM

Most of the times these so called streamers are being paid by respective casinos to promote their casino.
It's their joint effort to show that the streamer is making massive profits while in reality most of us lose money.
It's a strategy being used by many companies and works out well. As a user we have to be aware and only gamble within our budget.

Yeah, streamers playing on casino accounts and might have a fixed game to show users watching the stream know what happened when they win, the thrill behind it. Full of manipulate so I have a very bad view of any casino being advertised by streamers.

I don't even think so. It's not that streamers promoting the casino will always be a bad thing but yeah seeing how easy those scammers got max win will make people feel curious about what if they will get that max win. Maxwin was not an easy thing to be achieved and it's pure depend on our luck. I think that in this case it's not casino's fault. It's people's choice whether they wanna try that or not.

There is a thing called "streamer luck"

I used to play a hack&slash game where you hunt for items. A regular user can try to farm a certain item for 1000 hours and get nothing but then you'll see a streamer getting 2 or more in 100 hours. Then people found out that the game devs and certain streamers were in an agreement and cheating. It means the devs raised the drop rates of the streamer accounts.

The same thing may happen with the casinos. You'll never know.

Most highest rollers / winners boards you'll see on online casinos are fake too. It is a marketing trick. Lying works.

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Quote from: popeye95 on August 03, 2022, 01:24:06 PM

Quote from: pawanjain on August 03, 2022, 09:25:36 AM

Most of the times these so called streamers are being paid by respective casinos to promote their casino.
It's their joint effort to show that the streamer is making massive profits while in reality most of us lose money.
It's a strategy being used by many companies and works out well. As a user we have to be aware and only gamble within our budget.

Yeah, streamers playing on casino accounts and might have a fixed game to show users watching the stream know what happened when they win, the thrill behind it. Full of manipulate so I have a very bad view of any casino being advertised by streamers.

I don't even think so. It's not that streamers promoting the casino will always be a bad thing but yeah seeing how easy those scammers got max win will make people feel curious about what if they will get that max win. Maxwin was not an easy thing to be achieved and it's pure depend on our luck. I think that in this case it's not casino's fault. It's people's choice whether they wanna try that or not.

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Quote from: Fatunad on August 03, 2022, 06:59:22 PM

We should not make ourselves to be easily get fooled specially if the streamer do keeps winning on playing those games which you cant assure if those are valid or legit wins or something rigged or fixed thats why if you've decided to make out some deposits then you should really be that making further research about a casino and not just hastily make some deposits without having in depth research.

If streamers can win continuously, it should make us suspicious because there is no way we can win continuously at gambling, even if we have good luck.
Sometimes we lose and pause to evaluate what we have done.
We have to be careful if streamers try to persuade us to follow what he is doing because indirectly, we are responsible for our money.
Apart from that, we also have to research, like you said so that we don't get into trouble later.

The reality is there are more who lose than win and the loss percentage is higher than winning, but these streamers need to manipulate their results so they can invite more followers to signup to the casino they are promoting, streaming has become an industry because there are companies that are willing to pay them just to stream their game, I'm not following any streamers but I remember one streamer I watched winning outrageous money that made me think he is one lucky guy until I read that there are some streamers manipulating their games.

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Quote from: Fatunad on August 03, 2022, 06:59:22 PM

We should not make ourselves to be easily get fooled specially if the streamer do keeps winning on playing those games which you cant assure if those are valid or legit wins or something rigged or fixed thats why if you've decided to make out some deposits then you should really be that making further research about a casino and not just hastily make some deposits without having in depth research.

If streamers can win continuously, it should make us suspicious because there is no way we can win continuously at gambling, even if we have good luck.
Sometimes we lose and pause to evaluate what we have done.
We have to be careful if streamers try to persuade us to follow what he is doing because indirectly, we are responsible for our money.
Apart from that, we also have to research, like you said so that we don't get into trouble later.

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It's advertisement and if you fall for it then it's your fault. You've seen someone winning huge amount of money and they you are instantly magnetized then look at the website, deposit money and at the end of the night, you just don't know, maybe you are losing instead of getting a profit just like what the streamer shows. So it's good for casino to tap into this niche sort of using youtube influencers to create hype on their casino.

I will be honest I have never liked that kind of advertising because it sends the wrong signals to the people, it gives the impression that earning money when you gamble is not only possible but something easy to do, then when they actually try their luck they find out this is not the case and then they get mad about it, and in a way they are right as the information that they were given was false and they did not had a realistic idea of what they could expect out of gambling.

you must often see food advertisements on tv but when you will never make the exact same thing as in the ad. the goal of marketing is to be like that (make the audience affected and eventually try)

As we get older, we have to be able to reduce our expectations and control ourselves so we don't get stuck with disappointment, we must be aware that streamers are only trying to make money from their live, the results you get will be much different from what they show

And I understand it, however just because people like us know the difference between this form of advertising and the reality that does not mean that everyone does, and when those people try to replicate the results they see in those videos they are going to be incredibly disappointed by their results, and while it is natural that when a product is advertised some liberties are taken to increase the attractiveness of the product I think that many of those videos are outright lying and that is never acceptable.

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Yeah, streamers playing on casino accounts and might have a fixed game to show users watching the stream know what happened when they win, the thrill behind it. Full of manipulate so I have a very bad view of any casino being advertised by streamers.

If they advertise it, the obvious is there and they're doing it for the sake of the payment that they've got to introduce and give exposure to that casino.
You'll see them telling that they're encouraging people to gamble there because that's how it should work because that's the main reason on why they get paid and why they're playing there.

Typical job right? Its normal that they would really be doing things on whats been asked and mandated and as showing off their good performance or results then they would be trying out their best on hooking up new

players to the platform or site and does really make that payment to be worth and this is also some good portfolio building too which would really be helpful for their future projects to get if they do have
that good record and recommendations.

The only thing here is that people should be wise and be wary of their decisions that had been made.

Streamers also want to make money and they are there to create contents for their own benefits so don't get surprised about them hyping up a several casino since they are paid to do that. And lets do our own diligence to research what they are talking about or the content showed to us since at the end of the day its up for us to try what they are doing then test our luck playing on casino they recommend.

We should not make ourselves to be easily get fooled specially if the streamer do keeps winning on playing those games which you cant assure if those are valid or legit wins or something
rigged or fixed thats why if you've decided to make out some deposits then you should really be that making further research about a casino and not just hastily make some deposits
without having in depth research.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on August 03, 2022, 02:46:17 PM

Quote from: popeye95 on August 03, 2022, 01:24:06 PM

Yeah, streamers playing on casino accounts and might have a fixed game to show users watching the stream know what happened when they win, the thrill behind it. Full of manipulate so I have a very bad view of any casino being advertised by streamers.

If they advertise it, the obvious is there and they're doing it for the sake of the payment that they've got to introduce and give exposure to that casino.
You'll see them telling that they're encouraging people to gamble there because that's how it should work because that's the main reason on why they get paid and why they're playing there.

Typical job right? Its normal that they would really be doing things on whats been asked and mandated and as showing off their good performance or results then they would be trying out their best on hooking up new

players to the platform or site and does really make that payment to be worth and this is also some good portfolio building too which would really be helpful for their future projects to get if they do have
that good record and recommendations.

The only thing here is that people should be wise and be wary of their decisions that had been made.

Streamers also want to make money and they are there to create contents for their own benefits so don't get surprised about them hyping up a several casino since they are paid to do that. And lets do our own diligence to research what they are talking about or the content showed to us since at the end of the day its up for us to try what they are doing then test our luck playing on casino they recommend.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on August 03, 2022, 02:46:17 PM

Quote from: popeye95 on August 03, 2022, 01:24:06 PM

Yeah, streamers playing on casino accounts and might have a fixed game to show users watching the stream know what happened when they win, the thrill behind it. Full of manipulate so I have a very bad view of any casino being advertised by streamers.

If they advertise it, the obvious is there and they're doing it for the sake of the payment that they've got to introduce and give exposure to that casino.
You'll see them telling that they're encouraging people to gamble there because that's how it should work because that's the main reason on why they get paid and why they're playing there.

Typical job right? Its normal that they would really be doing things on whats been asked and mandated and as showing off their good performance or results then they would be trying out their best on hooking up new

players to the platform or site and does really make that payment to be worth and this is also some good portfolio building too which would really be helpful for their future projects to get if they do have
that good record and recommendations.

The only thing here is that people should be wise and be wary of their decisions that had been made.

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Quote from: popeye95 on August 03, 2022, 01:24:06 PM

Yeah, streamers playing on casino accounts and might have a fixed game to show users watching the stream know what happened when they win, the thrill behind it. Full of manipulate so I have a very bad view of any casino being advertised by streamers.

If they advertise it, the obvious is there and they're doing it for the sake of the payment that they've got to introduce and give exposure to that casino.
You'll see them telling that they're encouraging people to gamble there because that's how it should work because that's the main reason on why they get paid and why they're playing there.

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Quote from: pawanjain on August 03, 2022, 09:25:36 AM

Most of the times these so called streamers are being paid by respective casinos to promote their casino.
It's their joint effort to show that the streamer is making massive profits while in reality most of us lose money.
It's a strategy being used by many companies and works out well. As a user we have to be aware and only gamble within our budget.

Yeap, that is true. Back in past I've seen on stake forum streamers timetable. All they did are trying to complete daily competition tasks and run giveaways among chat. Most of the time I see them loosing money just to complete daily task (sort of a hit A 3 times in a row in HI-LO) and get few bucks. Real gambler would never do that.

From Russian streamers on YouTube I've found out that they play with deposit given them by casino and promote their referral link. Their income is a % of what gambler that has signed via ref link lost.

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Quote from: pawanjain on August 03, 2022, 09:25:36 AM

Most of the times these so called streamers are being paid by respective casinos to promote their casino.
It's their joint effort to show that the streamer is making massive profits while in reality most of us lose money.
It's a strategy being used by many companies and works out well. As a user we have to be aware and only gamble within our budget.

Yeah, streamers playing on casino accounts and might have a fixed game to show users watching the stream know what happened when they win, the thrill behind it. Full of manipulate so I have a very bad view of any casino being advertised by streamers.

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Quote from: pawanjain on August 03, 2022, 09:25:36 AM

Most of the times these so called streamers are being paid by respective casinos to promote their casino.
It's their joint effort to show that the streamer is making massive profits while in reality most of us lose money.
It's a strategy being used by many companies and works out well. As a user we have to be aware and only gamble within our budget.

Maybe I have seen few such streams, but always when I turned on the stream with the name "playing in the casino, deposit 5k" I saw that the stream was already going on for an hour and the deposit was already less than 2k. It turns out that the streamer is at a loss. Maybe later in the highlights we see individual wins (even large ones), but if you watch the stream, then the streamers mostly lose there.

With the existence of this casino gambling streamer, you must be careful because they have the potential as influencers who already have an agreement with gambling sites to play casino games on their website so that when they play games they may not use real money and their expressions can also look normal when they lose a large amount of money. very much. because currently there are many cases like that to increase visitors at a gambling place.

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Quote from: pawanjain on August 03, 2022, 09:25:36 AM

Most of the times these so called streamers are being paid by respective casinos to promote their casino.
It's their joint effort to show that the streamer is making massive profits while in reality most of us lose money.
It's a strategy being used by many companies and works out well. As a user we have to be aware and only gamble within our budget.

I would not be surprised to see that happened. As far as i know influencer has become one of the most effective way to attract new people to join in the casino. I meant their favourite streamer able to win the game eventhough if that may be fake but as an entertain it will enough to make their followers and subscribers feel curious about tried to use such casino.

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Quote from: pawanjain on August 03, 2022, 09:25:36 AM

Most of the times these so called streamers are being paid by respective casinos to promote their casino.
It's their joint effort to show that the streamer is making massive profits while in reality most of us lose money.
It's a strategy being used by many companies and works out well. As a user we have to be aware and only gamble within our budget.

Maybe I have seen few such streams, but always when I turned on the stream with the name "playing in the casino, deposit 5k" I saw that the stream was already going on for an hour and the deposit was already less than 2k. It turns out that the streamer is at a loss. Maybe later in the highlights we see individual wins (even large ones), but if you watch the stream, then the streamers mostly lose there.

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Most of the times these so called streamers are being paid by respective casinos to promote their casino.
It's their joint effort to show that the streamer is making massive profits while in reality most of us lose money.
It's a strategy being used by many companies and works out well. As a user we have to be aware and only gamble within our budget.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on August 02, 2022, 04:38:01 PM

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I think its all about advertisements and getting bonuses by referrals. I remember watching Turkish streamer living in Cyprus (Northern side). Gambling is legal there so he was streaming playing on online casinos at twitch. He was indirectly making ad for that specific online casino website. And he was making money directly over other type of advertisement. I think its pretty normal in modern age. This was like 3-4 years ago.

Some of these people are legitimately making money from streaming without being affiliated with the casino. This business has a little more shady area because some streamers get paid by the casino to play with their money and they don't admit it at the stream, so that people think they're watching a real game but in reality the streamer is acting like it's a big deal and he's betting a lot of money but he can't lose anything. Of course this isn't any different from all those TV ads where they edit the model's face or hair to show they look better after using some cream or shampoo. All ads are lies and twitch streaming is just another form of an ad.

Right, but if you are smart enough, this streamers can make more money by affiliating their face with the casinos. And this is the business model that we have seen very effective. Even though casinos are willing to take sponsors from top athletes, what's more with a casino that has starting his name and wanted to be known. As for the money, we all have been speculated that it's either fake money or it directly comes from their affiliated casinos so that betting max won't be a problem and usually if you have huge bet the returns will be big as well.

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Good day. I really like streamers and channels that contain informative content. For example, this is the BBC, National Geographic, various historical channels, medical streamers, and so on. I mean, what I absorb should be healthy and nutritious. My informational food should benefit, not just saturate me. That's why I rarely watch game streamers. They are to entertain the audience, and often their ways are deliberately childish and stupid. I don't want to offend anyone, I'm just expressing my opinion. If you can, advise a good streamer who gambles. It is desirable that they're not a clown. I'll be happy to look at them and make a conclusion.

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Quote from: dunfida on August 02, 2022, 04:45:33 PM

Now that pandemic is coming into its end then expect that there would be less streamers as casual marketing would really be going back to normal

The purpose is to gather views in order to make revenue, how does the pandemic coming to the end have to do here?

Streamers, that's why they are called streamers, will just continue to stream. There's no other way to earn but to stream so why they will stop?

They are not just into partnerships but even if they are doing content on a gambling site without direct support from it, it's still content and they will just continue to stream as usual. Having a partnership with a gambling site they used on content is not even a priority.

Exactly, Streamers is already there even before pandemic and they have a strong marketing impact on industry like online gambling. They will still continue despite pandemic ends because people already comfortable on playing online gambling rather than casino because of its convenient. Maybe the old generation that is currently using online gambling might go back on playing IRL but most of the new generation will definitely choose online gambling which will sustain the streaming world.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on August 02, 2022, 06:00:32 AM

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Before you repeat what do streamers need to understand that most of them are in a partnership relationship with the gaming sites and lose they do not their personal money and casino money moreover, and even get a lot of money for their work.

Many of them are aware that such activities are prohibited in the U.S. and they break the law, so some of them even move to other jurisdictions on purpose not to have problems with the law.

Maybe they have a partnership with a gaming site that has been around for some time so that they will get the latest info if there is an update from the gaming site. They must be able to manage their finances, whether to play gambling or fulfill their daily needs.

Moving to another jurisdiction might solve the existing lawlessness problem in the US. And we know that many streamers are trying not to break the laws in their location.

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Quote from: dunfida on August 02, 2022, 04:45:33 PM

Now that pandemic is coming into its end then expect that there would be less streamers as casual marketing would really be going back to normal

The purpose is to gather views in order to make revenue, how does the pandemic coming to the end have to do here?

Streamers, that's why they are called streamers, will just continue to stream. There's no other way to earn but to stream so why they will stop?

They are not just into partnerships but even if they are doing content on a gambling site without direct support from it, it's still content and they will just continue to stream as usual. Having a partnership with a gambling site they used on content is not even a priority.

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